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12:00 AM
@percusse Yep. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle This would certainly improve the quality of many papers.
Good night all!
 
@egreg yes night all...
 
@egreg Good night! :)
@DavidCarlisle Good night! :)
 
@egreg Why not use [!h]? What's the alternative?
 
156
A: How to influence the position of float environments like figure and table in LaTeX?

Frank MittelbachTo answer this question one has to first understand the basic rules that govern LaTeX's standard placement of floats. Once these are understood, adjustments can be made, for example, by modifying float parameters, or by adding certain packages that modify or extend the basic functionality. LaTe...

@gekkostate As always :)
 
12:11 AM
@gekkostate When you use !, you tell LaTeX to not obey any lengths. It's always better to let LaTeX pick the best float placement for you.
 
@gekkostate [h] means please take my float to the end of the document. In LaTeX2.09 it almost always did that, In LaTeX2e it generates a warning and is (usually) changed to [ht] to at least allow top floats. But it still prevents page floats and bottom floats so drastically restricts the places where a float can be placed.
 
According to the OP's last comment, this can be closed as "Too localized":
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Q: Using diagrams inside an AMS theorem environment

RghtHndSdI am using the following skeleton code: \usepackage{amsthm} \usepackage[balance,small,nohug]{diagrams} ... \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem} ... \begin{theorem} \begin{diagram} A & \rTo & B & \rTo & C \end{diagram} \end{theorem} And this produces the error message: Error: Missing number, tre...

 
12:32 AM
A frustrated user?
-5
Q: latex problem with citep

stackexchangespambotI hate Stack Exchange.This post DOES meet quality stanrads When i try to chat is asking for stupid reputation.I am going to spam this website with links to fcc.gov and gop.com UNTIL Stack Exchange idiots learn from this and disable repuation and let eveyone chat and have full control.Stack Exchan...

 
@GonzaloMedina Probably.
 
@GonzaloMedina We might flag that.
 
@PauloCereda I already did.
 
@GonzaloMedina Me too. :)
Oh no, I'm out of votes. :)
 
I had never seen so many down-votes in such a short time.
 
12:34 AM
@GonzaloMedina I think we can reverse that
put a comment now
 
@percusse LOL
2 + 2 = 22.
:)
 
probably a phd student hehe
 
@percusse Wait for David to write an answer with picture mode. :)
 
hello to all :)
 
@PauloCereda Do you have a record on this? I mean, do you know the minimum time you've used to consume all your 40 daily votes?
@cmhughes Hello!
 
12:39 AM
@GonzaloMedina hi Gonzalo :)
 
@GonzaloMedina It's usually 30-40 minutes, otherwise the voting algorithm might get suspicious. :)
 
@PauloCereda hey Paulo! I was wondering- does arara have any easter eggs?
 
@PauloCereda So the voting algorithm is useless with one vote per minute?
 
Placed a random answer :)
hehehehe
 
@cmhughes Hey Chris! :) Not that I know of. :) But for v4.0, I might add some cool stuff in the comments. :)
 
12:41 AM
@PauloCereda don't think that omitting @ means I don't see these comments
 
@PauloCereda cool :) I'm trying to think of some fun ones for latexindent.pl... if the source code is available, I suppose some folks could just figure it out by reading it....
 
@GonzaloMedina It's actually a little more complicated than that. I tried to analyze the pattern and it's usually something around 2:30 minutes per thread. You can vote for every element in a thread as much as you want, the problem arises when you are out of the context of a thread. :)
@cmhughes Check dandelion.lua's comments for an inspiration. :)
 
@PauloCereda You are officially crazy.
:)
 
@DavidCarlisle <3
 
@DavidCarlisle I don't think it was *only * vim users :)
 
12:42 AM
@percusse I can even explain that as partial functions! :)
 
@PauloCereda Oh please do. I'm curious.
 
@PauloCereda sounds good- is it part of texlive?
 
@cmhughes I'm sure it is.
 
@DavidCarlisle lol :)
 
@cmhughes Not until David keeps finding bugs in it. :)
 
12:43 AM
@PauloCereda roger that :)
 
@PauloCereda well if you fixed iit so it could test lua code as well as tex code it could test itself until it was bug free
 
@PauloCereda thanks! what exactly does it do?
:)
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh a Turing machine that accepts a Turing machine as input. :)
@cmhughes Something. We are still investigating that. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle how close are you to 100k? :)
 
12:45 AM
!!/battle
 
@PauloCereda oh, ok ;)
 
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 140 vs. 110 David. So far, egreg is winning.
@cmhughes: in other news, do you use Trello?
 
@PauloCereda er, no- what does it do? :)
 
@cmhughes It's supposed to do other things but @PauloCereda spent so long on the startup banner it only does this :
$ texlua dandelion.lua --version
    _              _     _ _
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/ _` / _` | ' \/ _` / -_) | / _ \ ' \
\__,_\__,_|_||_\__,_\___|_|_\___/_||_|

Copyright 2013, The LaTeX3 Project
All rights reserved.

             ,%%%%%%%%,
           ,%%/\%%%%/\%%
          ,%%%\c "" J/%%%
 %.       %%%%/ o  o \%%%
 `%%.     %%%%    _  |%%%
  `%%     `%%%%(__Y__)%%'
  //       ;%%%%`\-/%%%'
 ((       /  `%%%%%%%'
  \\    .'          |
   \\  /       \  | |
    \\/         ) | |
 
hahahaha
 
12:47 AM
@DavidCarlisle Hey! That's the crowning touch of the code. <3
 
@DavidCarlisle lol :) @PauloCereda is quite the ascii artist
I'm thinking of making the easter eggs give pretty ascii art to the log file
 
@David: Frank might require some TeX-related reference, so we put a lion there. :)
 
@cmhughes 234
 
@DavidCarlisle brilliant :) so about a day for you then :)
 
@cmhughes probably day after as I'm at 110 (Paulo votes:-) today already so rep cap will make it hard to get them all.
 
12:50 AM
@DavidCarlisle We could give you random bounties. :)
@cmhughes: do you use Trello? :)
 
@PauloCereda no- what does it do? :)
 
@cmhughes It's something for management. :) Brent is the expert on that. :) We would like to invite you to the arara board on Trello. :)
 
@PauloCereda wow, that sounds ace! thanks very much! :)
@PauloCereda as you know, I am pretty in love with arara - not in a weird way though :)
 
Stop feeding the trello
 
@cmhughes :)
@percusse We need a Google group then. :)
 
12:55 AM
@cmhughes Note that is "board" as in a thing on the wall with sticky notes, not "board" as in an executive position with a personal jet and 5 million pounds for 2 days a year.
 
man elsevier bought mendeley..... wow all those open-sourcers are caught off-guard :)
 
@percusse I tried Mendeley for 2 hours. Terrible.
 
@DavidCarlisle dang- I'll cancel the Ferrari order I just placed :)
 
@DavidCarlisle Indeed. :) It looks like my refrigerator. :)
 
@PauloCereda have you noticed @percusse's answer to the citep question
 
12:59 AM
@DavidCarlisle Wow!
 
@percusse are you after that gold badge where you get for answering a question with -5 ? :)
ps: +1
 
@cmhughes hahaha no. Badges are not my thing they are too small for my ego
 
That's it, wait for my lawyer. :)Paulo Cereda 8 secs ago
 
@percusse lol :)
 
@percusse: ^^
 
1:00 AM
 
@percusse OMG I NEED TO FOLLOW THIS PROFILE.
Telling a bunch of silly academics that we were going to change the world, and then selling them out in grand fashion: priceless.
 
I think we should close that one as a duplicate- that'll learn 'em!
 
@PauloCereda Tweeter should change that phrase to stalking.
pfff, it's twitter and tweeting ok I got it.
 
 Fake Mendeley
@FakeMendeley

We're rich, beeotch!
LOL
 
@PauloCereda I named the duck thanks to @GonzaloMedina
 
1:05 AM
@percusse OMG
0
Q: Create a automaton with Latex

user29570I want to create this automaton with Latex:

Do I detect a Mealy machine?
 
1:21 AM
@PauloCereda @percusse @cmhughes Today (well, yesterday for some of you) we celebrated the Spanish Day. Do you have a similar day for your native languages? Was it also today?
 
@GonzaloMedina interesting! In England we have St George's day, as he is our patron saint :) - You must login to post - retry / cancel
 
@percusse That’s why I was kidding with the Community wiki.
 
@GonzaloMedina No unfortunately. But it's the 23rd april children's day in turkey
@Speravir Yea got carried away by the gag I guess.
 
@percusse Children's day, is that similar to Halloween? Costumes and candies?
 
@GonzaloMedina Not really. Children become president minister mayor etc. for one day and other countries' kids particiapate for some festival or something.
It's a state holiday. Is that the right word?
 
1:31 AM
@percusse I was searching for the source on Paulo’s github site, but could not find it. Now after yor edit I know, why. I should have searched for the local copy and look inside:
Nov 16 '12 at 1:52, by percusse
With apologies to the grandmaster :)
 
@percusse No idea if it's the right word, but I understand what you mean.
 
@Speravir guilty as charged
 
I guess elementary figures are exhausted in the collection "Improve PSTricks code for drawing of a..." What will be next?
 
@GonzaloMedina 3D is my guess
 
@percusse And now it’s away, at least for low rep users like me.
 
1:37 AM
@Speravir :)
Ah my eclectic answer in Music SE got downvoted. It really hurts outside TeX.SE :D
 
1:53 AM
@percusse I just now noticed this behaviour in German.SE for a IMHO suiting question …
 
@Speravir As my friend always says; Manners asshole! Mind your manners :D
I think it is also related to the average age
All dinosaurs here. Not pointing anyone specifically though, .... the high rep ones you know who
 
@percusse Good, that I don't have manners! ;-)
 
:P
ok my duck is deleted I got downvoted. I'm off to bed . Good night all !
 
Hey guys, how can I move a \numerate list a bit to the right ?
as in move it's margins to the right
\itemize*
 
@percusse Be careful. Not, that more serious thing happens on the way into your bed … Good night.
 
2:04 AM
@NLed You can use enumitem:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{enumitem}

\begin{document}

\begin{itemize}[leftmargin=1cm]
\item First
\item Second
\end{itemize}

\end{document}
 
@GonzaloMedina Thanks a bunch
would \indent work btw ?
 
@NLed No.
 
Thanks
 
2:43 AM
@SeanAllred Hi :) Do you plan to self answer otherwise it can be a TL ?
 
3:19 AM
@Speravir @PauloCereda @Cats i.imgur.com/HPOIdtK.gif
 
3:38 AM
And especially for @PauloCereda imgur.com/a/gXz5A
 
 
2 hours later…
5:13 AM
@egreg lol ;-)
@PauloCereda What's the matter :-)
 
6:13 AM
@texenthusiast I'll answer only to mark it as answered if you'd like, but my curiosity is still very much active on the matter. I'll fiddle around with using dvi/dvips/ps2pdf to do this, since the resources a DVI uses are relative (to my knowledge).
 
@SeanAllred Oh, Thanks, mention it as comment at Q so that it wont turn up in answer the unanswered section
 
kan
6:44 AM
Another Tikz answer posted after editing a lot!
 
7:03 AM
@PauloCereda I live in "Herta city", but my heart goes to "Dortmund" (where I lived before moving to Berlin)
 
 
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8:26 AM
What is wrong with this guy? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/110206/…
Now I have an accepted answer at -1, great.
 
@mafp Isn't there a badge for it when you get enough downvotes? We could help ;-)
 
kan
@topskip LOL
 
@topskip Oh yes please ;-)
 
kan
I am at 0.007egregs.
 
... @mafp I've just made it a bit harder for you to get the badge. I don't think the downvote is justified.
 
kan
8:35 AM
@topskip You must delete; you'll lose all the negative votes with it! So, @mafp gets to decide if he wants to get rid of this post. I can "help" too... :P
@topskip I see you have really helped there... :)
 
@mafp i made a comment to OP for clarity. your answer is as well good. dont delete we will upvote
 
still can't use firefox today on this site crashes it every time:(
 
kan
@mafp Upvoted. :)
@texenthusiast Hey, I was only joking about his deleting answers, ok? :)
 
@DavidCarlisle You don't use Emacs/W3?
 
@kan sorry could not follow :) thanks
 
8:47 AM
@kan Would you ask @JosephWright to add that unit in siunitx?
 
kan
@egreg Will do. :-)
And, @David pulls a trick (and will also get the tick) out of his hat in that counter problem...
 
@egreg That unit would need a timestamp: I am at 0.007egregs@2013-04-24 :)
 
@topskip Thank you all. I mean, it will never be a "Famous answer", but it was what the OP wanted (or so I guess)
 
kan
@topskip Ooh! <3
 
@topskip I did try logging in via lynx yesterday but getting through the login procedure was painful:-)
 
kan
8:52 AM
@DavidCarlisle Same for me... I could not succeed at all. Did you succeed? (You'd have if you know how to put your uid together... I rely on the GUI here for doing it.)
 
@kan but I need 9 more ticks today:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I see, I see. But beware, the OP might just downvote you!
 
@DavidCarlisle in your recent answer on boxes with capt-of is it possible to get the caption counter during citation ?
 
kan
9:36 AM
@egreg Can I ask you a Galois Theory question?
 
@kan You can. Maybe I can't answer it.
 
kan
@egreg No, I think this is supposed to be easy, I just cannot see it.
For example: is it true that simple extension over a simple extension is simple.
 
@kan No, this is true only if the number of intermediate fields is finite. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_element_theorem
The easiest counterexample is Q(x)(sqrt(2))
 
kan
@egreg I know this theorem but....
@egreg wait, I also have finite simple extensions. Finite simple over finite simple.
 
@kan You need separability
 
kan
9:43 AM
@egreg I am unable to see a proof with that also... :(
 
@kan Sorry, no time now to help more.
 
kan
@egreg Sure! Later then! Sorry to disturb you...
 
10:24 AM
TL
4
Q: process_input_buffer callback in LuaTeX

Tim LiI try to play with the callback function process_input_buffer provided by LuaTeX, but unluckily I don't get what I expect. The manual said that This callback allows you to change the contents of the line input buffer just before LuaTeX actually starts looking at it. function (<string> buff...

 
10:48 AM
@texenthusiast just use \label/\ref as usual,
 
11:34 AM
@egreg: get ready for announcing @David as the new member of the 100k club. :)
 
@PauloCereda I doubt that will be today:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Some bounty will appear. :)
 
@PauloCereda don't they have to be offered for a few days?
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh you are right.
 
@DavidCarlisle Sometimes in the wee hours, I guess. Getting 8 green ticks isn't impossible, though. Tomorrow morning we'll see.
!!/battle
 
11:39 AM
@egreg Just need people to ask lots of easy tikz questions
 
@egreg oopsie, let me enable the bot. :)
!!/battle
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 245 vs. 230 David. So far, egreg is winning.
 
@PauloCereda I must've missed this one ... what's the battle?
 
@AndrewStacey It's the daily reputation from egreg and David. :)
 
@PauloCereda A-ha. Hmm, there should be a version of the Erdos number for this site. Not totally sure how it would be computed, though ...
 
@AndrewStacey :)
 
kan
12:04 PM
My attempt to generalise tikz-cd manual example for 4 case has proved futile!
I'll post an answer later on...
 
Can't believe I wrote another vaucanson-g answer. :P
 
@kan I have Cohn's book in front of me. A separable finite extension is always simple. Actually, if you have F(a_1,...,a_n) where the a_i are algebraic and at most one of them is not separable, then F(a_1,...,a_n)/F is simple.
A counterexample is like this: take a field k of characteristic p and set F=k(x^p,y^p), where x and y are indeterminates. Then k(x,y)/F is a finite but not simple extension.
 
kan
@egreg I don't know the proof of the last statement... and I think that will answer my question.
@egreg oh, degree p^2.
 
12:20 PM
@DavidCarlisle: TikZ, picture mode... now PSTricks. Wow.
 
kan
@egreg Not simple because infinitely many subfields.
 
@kan Cohn mentions it in an exercise: if a and b are algebraic and b is separable over k, then k(a,b)/k is simple.
 
@PauloCereda Total guess that: I didn't even know the \newpath command existed, I just thought writing postscript with \ in front of the keywords is a reasonable approximation for pstricks...
 
kan
@egreg This will answer my question... :) So, I'll think about it.
 
@DavidCarlisle You are awesome, sir.
 
12:24 PM
@PauloCereda the trick is to make lots of guesses and then hide the wrong ones.
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh!
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle like how I used tikz-cd in an answer today without ever having used it before? :)
@percusse Thanks for the links you posted today! They were very helpful for guessing.
 
@kan What links?
 
kan
@percusse in that tikz-cd thing.... :)
 
12:37 PM
loading please wait.....
 
Hey guys, just a quick question. Is there a package to create DFD (Data Flow Diagrams) in LaTeX?
 
oh you mean the duplicates. Heh no problem.
 
kan
@gekkostate tikz? :)
 
@kan Other then Tikz? I am not very good at it (Tikz) and if there was a package then it would much easier to implement what I want
 
kan
12:39 PM
@gekkostate Hmm, I am not sure... but, if you post a pic, some one will help you do it. :)
 
@gekkostate Smart diagram didn't work out?
 
@percusse It did :) I have two very nice flow charts but DFD's are different
 
@gekkostate If you say so :) I don't know what DFD is but wiki page looks like it can be done with tikz without too much effort.
there are many examples on TeX-SX similar to that
 
@percusse Yea, I'm searching tex.sx right now and I found this link texample.net/tikz/examples/data-flow-diagram
@percusse quite honestly, I'm being rather lazy. I could just implement using tikz but it would be awesome if there something like \drawdfd[->]{this, this, this} :D
 
kan
@egreg Do you have any proof for that statement in your mind? Some hints would be very helpful.
 
12:45 PM
@PauloCereda oops the "blind guess" technique doesn't work so well if the OP asks how it works:(
 
@DavidCarlisle What if you tell the OP to \tracingall? :)
 
@gekkostate tough luck :)
 
!!/eightball is David's explanation good enough?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: lalalala can't hear you now lalalala
I hate my Mac keyboard. :)
 
@percusse I guess so. Who knows, when I get more experienced I'll build my very own DFD package :D
 
@David: I wrote a non-TikZ answer on a TikZ question and the TikZ mafia decided to silence me. :)
 
12:47 PM
@PauloCereda Just out of curiosity, is the eightball thing a joke or does it actually work?
!!/eightball are you real?
 
@gekkostate Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: signs point to yes.
 
@gekkostate that's easier than you think so get right to it. Smartdiagram was an answer here too.
and I didn't like it at first :)
 
@gekkostate It works 50% of the time, which is 100% accurate.
 
so you can see my blunder under the comments there
 
kan
@egreg We'd be done if we show that this extension itself should be separabel.
 
12:49 PM
@PauloCereda Ha! How did you make it? or is it in built?
 
!!/answer what is the "eight ball" ?
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

eight ball  (English phrase)
noun | a black pool ball bearing the number 8; should be the last to go in certain pool games
pool ball
 
!!/answer What is "LaTeX"?
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

latex  (English word)
1 | noun | a milky exudate from certain plants that coagulates on exposure to air
2 | noun | a water-base paint that has a latex binder
l'eyt,eks  (IPA: l\:02c8e\:026at\:02cc\:025bks)
la-tex  (5 letters  | 2 syllables)
1662  (European Renaissance)  (351 years ago)
Latin  |  Greek
latices
latex paint  |  rubber-base paint
caoutchouc  |  gum elastic  |  India rubber  |  natural rubber  |  rubber   (total: 5)
exudate  |  exudation  |  water-base paint
 
!!/battle
 
12:57 PM
@DavidCarlisle Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 245 vs. 245 David. So far, nobody is winning today.
 
kan
1:08 PM
@egreg Done!! Go to seperable closure. And, then, that itself will have only finitely many subfields.
 
1:19 PM
@percusse What are the steps to building a package? how does it differ from a normal file? I am aware of making packages in Java, is it the same principle?
 
1:37 PM
@gekkostate a latex package? It's just a tex file with extension .sty
 
@kan There's also a direct way that, in some sense, is constructive. But, as usual, these messages are too narrow to contain the proof.
 
kan
@egreg heh! you should tell me the proof! :)
 
@kan Reminds me of:
Mar 3 at 5:08, by Qrrbrbirlbel
user image
 
2:37 PM
@cgnieder: another one! github.com/wgrundlingh
@cgnieder: github.com/mojca
 
@PauloCereda I just recognize that you and @cgnieder are “following” me. :)
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel GitHub network. :)
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel how can I find out who I follow?
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel thanks!
(Oh, I am following only one person...)
 
2:48 PM
@topskip It actually showed up in the News Feed on the Front Page.
I don't have a clue about GitHub. I just use it to store some .tex files for TeX.sx.
I have even failed to setup … the “gitting”? I'm just copy-paste the code from my editor to theirs.
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel I don't use many of the features of github either. @marcodaniel and I used it as a platform for editing the German l2short (github.com/texdoc/l2kurz)
... and I use it to store my company's trade secrets... (github.com/speedata/publisher)
 
3:15 PM
@topskip Ah, very good. Wasn't the German version the original one?
My commits look rather small to all your repositories …
 
!!/battle
 
5
Q: Why are questions on package bugs/issues too localized?

SverreOn a couple of occasions I have come across unwanted or surprising behavior with some widely used LaTeX packages that I have posted questions about on TeX.sX. One was about biblatex (Entry options in biblatex), the other about libertine (\pdfglyphtounicode with XeTeX). In both questions a discuss...

Input please :-)
 
Microsoft really outperformed itself this time.... The MS Office link in the start menu does not terminate itself if you install your legal copy of Office. So you without knowingly keep having one full and a half office all along.
And they manage to clash ....
Unbelievable.
I loved the good news part
 
3:39 PM
Duplicate alarm: Create a automaton with LaTeX. @PauloCereda and @texenthusiast I would suggest you add your fine answers to Which package can be used to draw automata? instead.
 
3:50 PM
More vim users downvoted my Word screendump:-( But at least that has now put me on target for the 99999 palindrome:-)
:9128594 Psmith only here when @PauloCeredais
 
@Speravir I agree. Their answer are rather off-topic on their current question. (Which previously wasn't a real question to begin with.)
 
@DavidCarlisle I use Winedt and feel like Using internet explorer
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Aah when I see you: Wasn’t it you last time with the cat and the vacuum cleaner? Or did you comment on someone other? @Bugbusters perhaps? There’s another one, that went viral, it seems (let’s not forget @PauloCereda grin):
 
@Speravir: Thank... watching....
 
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