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12:13 AM
@kan the !!/ bot is only here when Paulo is here
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle Yeah, I just put it in, so that if you have some comments, you'd give them... as in checking that is defined in enumitem... :)
 
kan
12:25 AM
OP has now given me some more challenge!
I have no clue where my first solution is failing.
 
kan
12:36 AM
@David Can you offer some more assistance? I am now lost!!
\documentclass{book}
\usepackage[paperwidth=500mm,paperheight=50mm]{geometry}
% \usepackage[inline]{enumitem}
\begin{document}
\begin{tabular}{lp{\linewidth}}
Some\_Text  & \vspace{-1pt}
\begin{enumerate}
  \item Other text
  \item Other text
\end{enumerate}
\end{tabular}
More text. \the\lineskip
\end{document}
It is weird how geometry package varies the space between items.
or the class parameter...
 
@PauloCereda: May be you will like this : raaga.com/channels/kannada/devotional.asp
@PauloCereda And this one: youtube.com/watch?v=3Fjw_6AntJo
 
12:52 AM
@HarishKumar: Hi Harish! Thank you very much!
 
 
1 hour later…
1:54 AM
@PeterGrill To be fair, one can use two axis environments to create a left and a right y axis (this is even done so in the manual) but more than two y axes and with grids ..?
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Yeah seemed a bit excessive OA (over axis). I have never actually used more than one per graph yet.
 
@PeterGrill By the way, the Op added some response but I can't really tell what he wants to do.
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Perhaps he is trying to eliminate the extra tick marks?
the ones that are not on the grid.
 
 
3 hours later…
5:00 AM
It will never be late to start learning PSTricks: news.com.au/world-news/…
 
5:18 AM
@Karl'sstudents i feel never late to learn LaTeX first then PST
 
@texenthusiast Good. :-)
 
5:29 AM
@Karl'sstudents You have good chance to get rep
 
@texenthusiast Nice info. But I have to finish my homework first. :D
 
@Karl'sstudents is home work related to trig function Q
 
@texenthusiast Yes. I am just learning Trigonometric Functions. :D
 
@Karl'sstudents i have some idea, i will think over it. BTW all trust your know
 
@texenthusiast Thank you.
 
5:41 AM
@Karl'sstudents do you use scilab or gnuplot
 
@texenthusiast I am using Windows and not familiar with Linux.
 
@Karl'sstudents they are cross platform free open-source
 
@texenthusiast If I have to spend time to learn for numerical computation, I prefer Mathematica. :-)
 
@Karl'sstudents No $$$$ for me unless univ pays
 
@texenthusiast How much is it?
3000 usd?
 
5:49 AM
@Karl'sstudents matlab mathematica are paid by univ for student license. if you are student you can get it free until studies. I don't know exactly
@Karl'sstudents once i am thrown out univ then starts struggle hence shifting towards open source
 
@texenthusiast No open source is better than mathematica. :-)
 
@Karl'sstudents yes i know but i cannot afford after univ edu. Maple is used here cost effective
 
@Karl'sstudents I will post an answer to your trigonometric table. It is not yet finished, though. The math printing facilities of PGF are not made for tables, I guess.
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel can gnuplot do ? How good is the file reading capacity of TeX or pgfmath
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel No problem. I am waiting....
 
6:05 AM
@Karl'sstudents Have you seen my answer I linked to? percusse already asked there for pgfplotstable which is good but the use of keys=value is a little bit unfamiliar …
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel The example is too complicated.
 
@Karl'sstudents Yes, that example needed more math. The trigonometric functions are built-in. :)
 
6:42 AM
@Karl'sstudents What is your opinion on booktabs?
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Good.
 
@Karl'sstudents Although, it doesn't produce the best results in combination with colored rows?
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Not a big problem. It is enough
If we need 5 minutes to read each question of 37,413 questions then we will finish reading all of them in 129 days (full day reading) or 260 days (half day reading). Interesting!
 
7:20 AM
@Karl'sstudents I have updated my answer.
@Karl'sstudents I just notice that the last three columns only use three decimals ... I also thought there were an option so that siunitx doesn't add zeros to the decimals if there weren't any in the input, but I can't find it. Maybe that is overwritten by table-auto-round anyway …
@Karl'sstudents The output file option of pgfplotstable comes in handy when debugging the table that is produced.
 
7:52 AM
Working with longtable, siunitx, pgfmath and pgfplotstable results in a headache …
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel Using \psPrintValue is more headache.
 
8:22 AM
The following code fails to compile in PostScript phase with GhostScript:
\documentclass[preview,border=12pt]{standalone}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{tcolorbox}
\begin{document}
\begin{tcolorbox}[title=L'Hospital]
Find
\[
\lim_{x \to 0^-}\left(x\ln x\right)
\]
\end{tcolorbox}
\end{document}
 
@Karl'sstudents Same here, I dont use that route try xelatex or pdflatex
 
@texenthusiast no problem with pdflatex and xelatex.
I can response faster than light.
 
@Karl'sstudents then you should use plain tex , remove preview it worked for me
 
8:48 AM
@texenthusiast Yes, preview seems the culprit.
@Karl'sstudents "l'Hôpital": this, apparently, was the spelling the Marquis himself used.
 
@egreg I want to avoid loading fontenc now. :-)
 
@Karl'sstudents You don't need it: l'H\^opital
 
@egreg OK. Thank you!
@egreg: Do you have any comment about my code below? I probably abused something I don't know.
\documentclass[preview,border=12pt]{standalone}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{tcolorbox}
\begin{document}
\begin{tcolorbox}[title=l'H\^ospital]
Find
\[
\lim_{x \to 0^-} (x \ln x)
\]
\tcblower
\begin{align*}
\xdef\Lim{\lim_{x \to 0^-}}%
\Lim (x \ln x)
	& = \Lim \frac{\ln x}{\tfrac{1}{x}}
				&	& \text{rearranging}\\
	& =	\Lim \frac{\tfrac{1}{x}}{-\tfrac{1}{x^2}}
				&	& \text{$D_x(\ln x)=\tfrac{1}{x}$ and $D_x(\tfrac{1}{x})=-\tfrac{1}{x^2}$}\\
	& =	\Lim -x
				&	& \text{simplifying}\\
	& = 0
\end{align*}
 
@Karl'sstudents And, of course, no \left and \right in that formula. :)
 
@Karl'sstudents is preview a bug in standalone via latex-dvips route ?
 
9:02 AM
@texenthusiast Sometimes preview removes constants defined for postscript world. See my question.
 
@Karl'sstudents what's martin reply is it used in wrong way ? is this valid after adding pstricks for standalone
 
@Karl'sstudents Of course the definition of \Lim should go outside align*; why \xdef? It's dangerous. I wouldn't use \tfrac in the big fractions, but rather 1/x and -1/x^2.
@Karl'sstudents Oh, and you have an "s" too many: l'H\^opital has no "s".
 
@egreg Because def and edef produce errors when I declare in the position I gave above.
 
Good morning! :)
 
@Karl'sstudents Why putting it inside the align? There's no need. You make it local by putting it after \begin{tcolorbox}
 
9:10 AM
@egreg OK. Now what about the description text, is it recommended or there is another better method?
 
@Karl'sstudents This method is used frequently, I too use it. Oh, there's another mistake: the limit should be from the right, not from the left!
 
@PauloCereda Very Good Morning to all :)
 
@egreg That is correct. The limit must be from the right. Thank you. Is there a way to change globally the color of every \text{} to blue for example?
 
Not a good morning. Dublin's weather is a tease.
 
!!/answer Weather in Dublin, Ireland.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Dublin, Ireland
temperature | 6 °C  (wind chill: 3 °C)
conditions | partly cloudy
relative humidity | 93%  (dew point: 5 °C)
wind speed | 4.1 m/s
(1 hour 16 minutes ago)
between 4 °C and 9 °C
few clouds (early morning to early afternoon  |  late afternoon to evening)  |  rain (early afternoon onward)  |  clear (early afternoon to late afternoon)  |  partly cloudy (evening onward)
10 °C
rain (all night)  |  partly cloudy (all night)

  |  |   |
Oh my, it's cold.
!!/answer Weather in São Paulo, Brazil.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | São Paulo
temperature | 26 °C  (wind chill: 28 °C)
conditions | cloudy
relative humidity | 70%  (dew point: 20 °C)
wind speed | 2 m/s
(12 hours 17 minutes ago)
between 19 °C and 21 °C
rain (late afternoon to late night  |  early morning onward)  |  few clouds (late afternoon to evening  |  early morning onward)  |  clear (evening to early morning)
between 20 °C and 24 °C
rain (all day)  |  few clouds (all day)

  |  |   |
low: 15 °C
Mon, Apr 15, 6:00am | average high:  | 24 °C
 
9:19 AM
@DavidCarlisle (Concerning opening up Vim) ... why? You were supposed to be the chosen one!!
 
@PauloCereda measure execution time for arara for all runs ?
 
@Karl'sstudents Here's a possibility:
\usepackage{amsmath,xcolor,letltxmacro}
\LetLtxMacro\AMStext\text
\DeclareRobustCommand\text[2][\defaulttextcolor]{%
  \textcolor{#1}{\AMStext{#2}}}
\newcommand{\defaulttextcolor}{blue}
 
@SeanAllred Now let's see @egreg with a screenshot of MacVim. :)
 
@Karl'sstudents Thus you can also write \text[red]{something in red}
 
@texenthusiast hm? You lost me. :)
 
9:21 AM
@egreg OK. Thank you.
 
hello,
I need assistance urgently please
 
@PauloCereda I think the world would end.
 
@Karl'sstudents The newest version allows:
\documentclass[preview,border=12pt]{standalone}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{tcolorbox}
\tcbuselibrary{theorems}
\begin{document}
\begin{tcolorbox}[ams align lower,title=l'H\^ospital]
Find
\[
\lim_{x \to 0^-} (x \ln x)
\]
\tcblower
\xdef\Lim{\lim_{x \to 0^-}}%
\Lim (x \ln x)
	& = \Lim \frac{\ln x}{\tfrac{1}{x}}
				&	& \text{rearranging}\\
	& =	\Lim \frac{\tfrac{1}{x}}{-\tfrac{1}{x^2}}
				&	& \text{$D_x(\ln x)=\tfrac{1}{x}$ and $D_x(\tfrac{1}{x})=-\tfrac{1}{x^2}$}\\
	& =	\Lim -x
				&	& \text{simplifying}\\
 
@PauloCereda $\Pr(\text{egreg using MacVim})=0$
 
@user1460166 Then I would ask a question on the TeX.SX main site.
 
9:22 AM
@egreg Oh. :( /sob
 
@user1460166 Fire off
 
@PauloCereda in future ?
 
@texenthusiast In a galaxy far far away. :)
 
@PauloCereda time at terminal now , ok :)
 
@PauloCereda What was that earlier by the way? Someone linked a roll of what appeared to be commit messages put to the star wars theme...
 
9:24 AM
Does everybody notice TL2012 is frozen?
Plan for TeX Live 2013:
27mar: sources committed, builds begin.
8apr: tlnet (and TL'12) frozen, tlpretest starts, CTAN updates continue there.
20may: complete freeze for final build, no more updates, final doc tweaks, always more testing.
8jun: deliver final images for the TeX Collection DVD to manufacturing.
1jul: public release (also of MacTeX).
August?: delivery of DVDs to members.
 
@MarcoDaniel When will it be published?
 
its 7 april updated at tug
 
Guys, think of this: in a parallel universe, David is a heavy Vim power user, egreg uses Word, Marco drives very slowly and I program in C#. Spooky. :)
 
@Karl'sstudents It was published 9 April
 
9:25 AM
Typical session at egreg's terminal:
 
@PauloCereda I don't think any universe would allow for that. I think this configuration is self-contradictory.
 
 
@egreg awww that's bring me memories. :) @JosephWright will love that. :)
 
@Karl'sstudents Download the relevant tds.zip file and put it in your local texmf-tree: ctan.org/tex-archive/install/macros/latex/contrib
 
@MarcoDaniel OK.
 
9:26 AM
@MarcoDaniel It's close to winter in here. :P
 
@egreg goes hard in the paint. With nano.
Oh geez.
nano.
 
@PauloCereda That means only 283 Kelvin ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel ooh hold on! :)
 
@user1460166 I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what you want...
 
!!/answer 283 kelvin to celsius.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

convert 283 K  (kelvins) to degrees Celsius
9.85 °C  (degrees Celsius)
49.73 °F  (degrees Fahrenheit)
509.4 °R  (degrees Rankine)
7.88 °Ré  (degrees Réaumur)
12.671 °Rø  (degrees Rømer)
5.706 °C below temperature at STP (standard temperature and pressure), using the US customary convention (60 °F)
5.15 °C below temperature at STP (standard temperature and pressure), using the convention of European and South American natural gas companies (15 °C)
4.1 °C below average surface temperature of the earth (14 °C)
 
9:28 AM
@user1460166 Oh!
 
Rankine?! o.O
 
@PauloCereda :-)
 
@user1460166 see the comments on the extant answer
 
@MarcoDaniel I almost got 120km/h with my car. :P We can't go any further. :P
 
@SeanAllred I've tried it but its working correctly thats why I've put an update with the results and script used
 
9:30 AM
@PauloCereda What does Psmith say !!/answer 120 km/h to miles/hour
 
@SeanAllred so if anyone could assist me find the problem
 
!!/answer 120 km/h to m/h
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

convert 120 km/h  (kilometers per hour) to meters per hour
120000 m/h  (meters per hour)
33.33 m/s  (meters per second)
74.56 mph  (miles per hour)
109.4 ft/s  (feet per second)
64.79 knots
 ~~ 0.71 × speed of fastest recorded baseball pitch (~~ 105 mph )
 ~~ 0.9 × record human-powered vehicle land speed (~~ 83 mph )
 ~~ cheetah sprint speed (~~ 75 mph )
 ~~ ( 0.13 ~~ 1/8 ) × speed of sound in dry air at 35000 feet (~~ 585 mph )
F1  (moderate tornado)
speed
oooh "cheetah sprint speed"!
 
@user1460166 I've invited you to a new room for the Q to avoid an extended discussion in the comments
and to avoid Psmith !!/eightball
!!/eightball
 
@SeanAllred Psmith, the TeX bot: Uh-oh, you need to ask a question. Could you try it again? Jolly good!
 
!!/eightball why do I need to ask a question huh? you don't really love anything
 
9:33 AM
@SeanAllred Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: as I see it, yes.
 
@SeanAllred where can i find the invitation link to the other room?
 
you would think it would auto-invite you... chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/8318/…
 
@percusse: @percusse: Oh yes you are right: 1.8 pgfplots is indeed now out. I haven't upgraded since the new microtype was realeased as I want to do a before and after test to see if it fixes the slow compilation issues. Have deleted other comment in the question.
 
@egreg: any bike tour today? :)
 
@PauloCereda Next week, I hope.
 
9:41 AM
@egreg Yay! :)
We need to get you a camcorder. :)
 
!!/answer Weather in Berlin, Germany
 
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Berlin
temperature | 12 °C  (wind chill: 9 °C)
conditions | cloudy
relative humidity | 67%  (dew point: 6 °C)
wind speed | 7.7 m/s
(54 minutes ago)
between 7 °C and 11 °C
clear (early morning to late morning)  |  rain (late morning onward)  |  partly cloudy (late morning to late afternoon)  |  few clouds (late afternoon onward)
between 3 °C and 7 °C
rain (night to late night)  |  few clouds (night to late night)  |  clear (late night onward)

  |  |   |
 
Thanks, Psmith
Too bad the shops are closed tomorrow, so I have to leave the appartement to get some food :( (it rains)
 
@MarcoDaniel examples (short ones) would be great, IMO.
The current page is just a quick draft so that there is at least some text. You can remove it altogether
 
9:54 AM
@MarcoDaniel: BTW you got mail. :)
 
@PauloCereda Currently I am reading and thinking about it ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Oh no! :D
 
@PauloCereda What is .drv?
 
@egreg: you scared me today. :) I was going to upvote your answers, but I could not find any "not yet upvoted" answer!
@MarcoDaniel I have absolutely no idea. :) It was Heiko's request.
 
@PauloCereda LOL
 
9:59 AM
@PauloCereda Not much time yesterday for answers.
 
@egreg I had to upvote @David's!
 
10:14 AM
huhu everyone
 
@PauloCereda Answered ;-)
 
10:37 AM
It should be really easy to add support for arara and %!TeX directives to Auctex.
The arar directives seem more useful than the Texship TeX-engine directive, since they tell the backend everything it needs to know.
 
@CharlesStewart hm this sounds interesting. :)
 
s/Texship/TeXshop/
@PauloCereda It would, if the pacth was taken up by the main distro, give a way to help user of Auctex with misconfigured installations: the arara directives would override the broken inferences Auctex is making
s/pacth/patch/ I've had klutz fingers all week
 
@CharlesStewart I'll send an email to David Kastrup about it, it seems a very good plan.
 
So both sets of directives could be useful for Auctex users
@PauloCereda He might be more receptive if he receives a patch
 
@egreg if you index something you write $\sim_H$ how can I make an index at the lefthand side ?
 
10:47 AM
@CharlesStewart Uh-oh, I need to use emacs then! help
@DavidCarlisle: ^^
 
@PauloCereda I can do this. When I find time. I'm kind of busy right now, but the grant evaluation season will be over soon and I have the fantasy that i will suddenly have lots of time then.
 
@CharlesStewart Thanks! :)
Mr. Borge and his Bösendorfer... :)
 
i have a question
if anyone could assist me please
 
@user1460166 Shoot! :)
 
10:58 AM
@DominicMichaelis Probably \index{simH@$\sim_H$}
 
If it's not too complicated. :D
 
I don't know how to solve it
 
@PauloCereda quite right too
 
@user1460166 Personally I'd go with @SeanAllred's suggestion.
 
11:00 AM
@Karl'sstudents LOL
 
i've started a rooom for us
 
@PauloCereda :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle: everybody is forcing me to use emacs! Save me!
 
@PauloCereda no
 
@DavidCarlisle You are mean. <3
 
11:07 AM
@PauloCereda you are being saved from vim, that is kindness
 
@PauloCereda Try Emacs Viper mode. You get all of that kitchen-sink equipped Emacs runtime together with your favourite BSD vi commands. And, deep down, you know you shouldn't be using the vim extensions anyway. - emacswiki.org/emacs/ViperMode
 
@egreg i meant more like a left subscript sorry
 
@DominicMichaelis Oh! I see! \newcommand{\Hsim}{\mathrel{_{H}{\sim}}}
 
11:25 AM
thanks
ah i forgot the {} around the sim i guess, that why my spacing was so bad
 
@CharlesStewart 'favourite BSD vi commands' - good joke! ;-)
 
@DominicMichaelis If you do {}_{H}\sim there will be the usual relation spacing between the (subscript to the) empty subformula and \sim.
 
11:40 AM
@egreg I just wrote a wlog answer before the question was deleted but in the duplicate you say \typeout expands to \immediate\write17, but \@unused is 0 isn't it (not to mention setting \protect)
 
@DavidCarlisle I don't remember why I wrote 17. Probably because of holidays. ;-)
 
Any reason this fails?
\newcommand{\hmpf}[2][]{%
#1
\ifthenelse{\isempty{#2}}%
{}% if #2 is empty
{(((#2)))}% if #1 is not empty
}
 
@N3buchadnezzar You test whether #2 empty is, but the code comments about #1 being empty. Or in other words: What fails?
 
\hmpf{hello} returns ((hello)), it should test wheter the second argument is empty not the first =)
 
@DavidCarlisle Fixed.
@N3buchadnezzar What do you mean by "fail"?
 
11:53 AM
\hmpf{hello} returns ((hello)), it should test wheter the second argument is empty not the first =)
 
@N3buchadnezzar Well, the second argument isn't empty, ergo the false branch will be used. (And then correct your comment, if #1 is not empty)
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel With \hmpf{} I get nothing. What else?
 
@egreg As expected …
 
What do I do if I want to test whether the second argument is empty, and not the first then? I am a tad confused..
 
11:55 AM
@N3buchadnezzar You test whether the second is empty.
 
@N3buchadnezzar Please, state clearly what you'd like the command to produce.
 
Run this, maybe this clears things up:
\newcommand{\hmpf}[2][]{%
	#1
	\ifthenelse{\isempty{#2}}%
	{\#2 is empty}
	{\#2 is not empty}
}
 
@GonzaloMedina: I edited your answer and added an example using tcolorbox. I hope it's ok.
 
gee one should know it is no good idea to handwrite $s\in S$
 
I tried a few things and it works=) Trying to get it to work in a tabular enviroment. The output should be something like this. But can not for the life of me get the &'s to work.
\hmpf{#1} = #1 & \\
and
\hmpf{#1}{#2} = #1 & : #2 \\
 
12:08 PM
@N3buchadnezzar Nope. That's not gonna work.
First, the optional argument of \hmpf is delimited by [] (e.g. \hmpf[something]{else}).
Second, the first argument is optional, not the second.
You can do this:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{xifthen}
\newcommand{\hmpf}[2][]{#1 & \ifthenelse{\isempty{#2}}{}{:#2}\\}
\begin{document}
\begin{tabular}{ll}
	\hmpf{2}
	\hmpf{}
	\hmpf[1]{}
	\hmpf[1]{2}
\end{tabular}
\end{document}
 
@egreg thanks I didn't want to downvote you :-)
 
@N3buchadnezzar Or do you want the second to be optional? (Or the first not optional at all?)
 
@Karl'sstudents: Here you can see one differences between mdframed and tcolorbox. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/95257/… -- Please add the option arc=10pt to the example tcolorbox and please add roundcorner=10pt to the example mdframed.
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel I think I can figure out things from here, thanks =)
 
@N3buchadnezzar You can do this for the second argument to be optional:
\documentclass{article}
\makeatletter
\newcommand{\hmpf}[1]{#1 & \@ifnextchar[\@hmpf\\}
\newcommand{\@hmpf}[1][]{:#1\\}
\makeatother
\begin{document}
\begin{tabular}{ll}
	\hmpf{1}
	\hmpf{1}[2]
\end{tabular}
\end{document}
 
12:15 PM
=)
@Qrrbrbirlbel I should ask a question about this on the site, but could you quickly glance over this MWE? pastebin.com/CXeg8k9E
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel or use xparse
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{xparse}

\NewDocumentCommand \hmpf { m O{} }{#1 & #2 \\}

\begin{document}
\begin{tabular}{ll}
	\hmpf{1}
	\hmpf{1}[2]
\end{tabular}
\end{document}
 
@MarcoDaniel Right, I forgot to add that. (You still need a test because if #2 is empty you need to leave something out (the : or the ().)
@N3buchadnezzar I remember that question on the site. Now, I want a drink. :|
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel \NewDocumentCommand \hmpf { m o }{#1 & \IfNoValueF{#2}{:#2} \\}
 
@MarcoDaniel not TF? (That's how I see it always.)
 
Heh, figured it out =)
 
12:25 PM
!!/eightball should we use expl?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: how about reading source2e?
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel There is no need for TF. There is nothing to execute if #2 is empty.
Or did I miss something?
 
@MarcoDaniel syntax wise it is \hmpf{}[] ?
 
@N3buchadnezzar yes.
 
@PauloCereda stupid bot there's no expl3 there.
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
12:26 PM
@MarcoDaniel I don't know, I have never understood what TF should stand for. ;)
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel true false
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel TF:= True False
 
!!/eightball you were kidding, right?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: don't you think emacs is great?
 
@DavidCarlisle you are too fast ;-)
 
@PauloCereda brilliant bot: right again
 
12:27 PM
@DavidCarlisle @MarcoDaniel Yes, with Marco's hint I have actually started to think about it. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle <3
 
@MarcoDaniel you typed TF:= which probably slowed you down:-)
 
@Qrrbrbirlbel You should ask Paulo for the national brazillian drink
 
@N3buchadnezzar It's beer. It's always beer ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel OK. Thanks.
 
12:33 PM
!!/eightball Can @Qrrbrbirlbel have some beer?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: lalalala can't hear you now lalalala
Stupid bot.
 
Caipirinha?!
 
This would be my guess for the national brazillian drink ;)
@PauloCereda Indeed, it's good
 
@N3buchadnezzar it is. :)
Wait when I host the TUG conference. :)
 
Your drinks have too difficult names
We just call ours things like Sjokolademelkeksplosjon,
 
12:38 PM
@N3buchadnezzar Such an easy language. :)
 
@N3buchadnezzar Can I have a wild geese single malt with no rocks please?
 
Glenfiddich ?
 
great shop you have here by the way,
 
Shop? scratches head
 
@N3buchadnezzar OK that would do it too :)
 
12:41 PM
Lemon curry?!
(@JosephWright ^^)
 
@PauloCereda With vindaloo please
 
Ah! The famous Grouse! I always forget what animal belong to what brand..
 
@percusse ooh! :)
 
I have been to that destillery =)
 
@N3buchadnezzar It was made with TikZ?
 
12:43 PM
More like paint, then exported to powerpoint.
 
!!/answer weather in rotterdam, NL
 
@percusse Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm deeply sorry, old chap, but the command weather does not exist.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Rotterdam, Netherlands
temperature | 12 °C  (wind chill: 10 °C)
conditions | few clouds
relative humidity | 77%  (dew point: 8 °C)
wind speed | 6.7 m/s
(49 minutes ago)
between 6 °C and 14 °C
rain (early morning to late afternoon  |  night onward)  |  cloudy (early morning to mid-afternoon)  |  partly cloudy (mid-afternoon to late afternoon)  |  clear (late afternoon onward)
10 °C
rain (all night)  |  clear (night to late night)  |  few clouds (late night to early morning)  |  cloudy (early morning onward)
 
it's April man come on.... I want my sandals...
 
!!/answer weather inside an igloo, Antarctica.
 
!!/answer Can you fix weather in rotterdam, NL?
 
12:45 PM
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Antarctic Desert
area | 1.38×10^7 km^2  (square kilometers)
type | polar
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Rotterdam, Netherlands
temperature | 12 °C  (wind chill: 10 °C)
conditions | few clouds
relative humidity | 77%  (dew point: 8 °C)
wind speed | 6.7 m/s
(50 minutes ago)
 
type - polar hahahahaha
invoke cartesian bear jokes
 
@percusse This bot is funny. :P
@percusse hahaha
!!/answer weather in Antarctica.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Antarctic Desert
temperature | -51 °C  (wind chill: -75 °C)
conditions | partly cloudy
wind speed | 11 m/s
(57 minutes ago)
(using weather station NZSP: 949 km S and 650 meters above Antarctic Desert)
between -40 °C and -38 °C
clear (evening to late night)  |  few clouds (very early morning to early morning)  |  partly cloudy (early morning onward)  |  snow (early morning onward)  |  cloudy (early morning onward)
-38 °C
partly cloudy (early morning)  |  snow (all day)  |  cloudy (all day)
I believe this is very cold.
!!/answer weather in Carlisle city, UK.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

weather | Carlisle, United Kingdom
temperature | 5 °C  (wind chill: 2 °C)
conditions | cloudy
relative humidity | 93%  (dew point: 4 °C)
wind speed | 3.1 m/s
(16 hours 29 minutes ago)
between 2 °C and 12 °C
rain (early morning to late morning  |  early afternoon to late afternoon  |  evening onward)  |  partly cloudy (early morning to late morning)  |  few clouds (late morning to late afternoon)  |  clear (late afternoon onward)
between 8 °C and 11 °C
rain (all night)  |  clear (night)  |  few clouds (late night to very early morning)  |  partly clo
:)
 
@PauloCereda Want to do something for your slashdot karma? ;-)
... SE should have a preview for slashdot
 
@StefanKottwitz I better not touch it. :)
!!/eightball Should we have a Slashdor preview thingy in the chatroom?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: don't count on it.
:(
 
@PauloCereda Don't touch the karma, touch the + button :-D
 
12:51 PM
@StefanKottwitz ooh I can do that! Wait.
 
slashdot can make some more programmers interested in contributing, hopefully
 
@StefanKottwitz also can bring their bad karma here :)
 
@percusse True.
 
@PauloCereda Did you ever try TeXmacs?
 
@StefanKottwitz Never tried. :( emacs brrrrr
 
12:57 PM
@PauloCereda It's a pretty undeveloped (I guess) LyX alternative: texmacs.org
 
Anybody knows what the involved companies/projects are?
1
Q: What happened to Textures and Bluesky Research?

Reinhard DiestelA few weeks ago, the Bluesky website vanished. I have been unable to find any recent traces on the Internet of either Gordon Lee, who seems to have been the only person left at Bluesky (or, at any rate, its only interface with the public), or of its founder, Barry Smith. Although Textures had lo...

 
@StefanKottwitz Oh.
 
@percusse I'm not sure but seems to be off topic to me ...
 
We need a TeX game.
@DavidCarlisle: vim-adventures.com
 
1:20 PM
@Kurt Not at all - textures was quite important in former times
... I wish we had more diversity in the TeX world
everything pretty much boils down to "miktex or texlive".
 
@topskip But companies do look off-topic: it's not a technical question and is quite possibly limited in time
 
Has anybody used bakoma tex?
 
@topskip KerTeX, W32TeX, ...
 
@JosephWright Limited time: true but I don't see why companies are off topic
@JosephWright is kerTeX really used by more than 1 person? And what is win32TeX?
 
@topskip KerTeX is the basis for some of the iPod TeX systems
@topskip W32TeX used a lot in the far east
Then there are things like pTeX
 
1:24 PM
@JosephWright Such as TeXpad
 
@StefanKottwitz Yes: I'm still wondering about some of the detail there
 
I'll create a lolTeX. :)
 
One day, when I've got time™, I'll create an alternative TeX implementation...
 
@topskip woohoo
Let's create potatoTeX. :)
 
Current TeX sucks. I mean, it can do great things, but I am not really happy with it. So hard to extend, compile, debug,...
I really wish moving forward would be a bit easier.
 
1:29 PM
@topskip That's one of the things the KerTeX guy says he's dealing with
 
@JosephWright I should take a closer look.
 
@topskip License is an issue: he's a Plan 9 person, no GPL software thus no pdfTeX
 
Currently I have a few bugs with LuaTeX on Windows7/64 bit. And I am totally helpless with that. Compiling TeX on Windows is not easy, let alone debugging and so on.
 
@percusse do you mean who took over or who BSR are/were?
 
@JosephWright I favor the no-GPL-approach :)
 
1:32 PM
@DavidCarlisle They'd been promising 'new versions' for ages
 
@topskip NTS...
 
@topskip Makes life hard if you want to use any libraries, many of which are GPL
 
@DavidCarlisle as I understand it: "who took over"
@DavidCarlisle oh, well, I just don't like Java...
@JosephWright Life sucks :)
 
@topskip booo!
<3
!!/eightball How about a new TeX editor?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: yes, definitely.
 
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: yes, definitely use emacs.
 
1:39 PM
@DavidCarlisle :)
!!/fortune
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Here is your fortune: You love Chinese food.
 
@PauloCereda Yesterday my friend Tommaso (the coauthor of "L'arte di scrivere con LaTeX") magnified the virtues of TeXnicle (for Mac OS X). So I downloaded and tried it. I'm going to trash it soon.
 
@egreg Really? I heard about this editor, but never tried before. Is it that bad?
 
@PauloCereda It seems a bad port of WinEdt or similar.
 
@egreg Oh my!
 
@PauloCereda The article template has \ifpdf\usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \pdfcompresslevel=9 \usepackage[pdftex,...]{hyperref}\fi. :(
 
1:51 PM
@egreg Oh my! :(
@egreg: it's quite amusing that some software publishers don't pay attention to the community they are aiming at.
 
@egreg There is a screenshot with \begin{table}[htdp] on the texnicle page. I wonder what the 'd' is.
 
@topskip d'oh! :)
 
(Must go to playground now :( - son already went downstairs)
 
@topskip ooh cool! Have fun! :)
 
!!/fortune
 
1:59 PM
@Brent.Longborough Psmith, the TeX bot: Here is your fortune: Confucius say you have heart as big as Texas.
 
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