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David Carlisle
David Carlisle
12:12 AM
@egreg you've been watching too much football, only 3rd place for the week?
 
egreg
egreg
@DavidCarlisle Martin earned a 500 bounty, so we won't be able to catch him. Let's see on Saturday night. :)
@DavidCarlisle I'm just 50 behind you, after all. Watch out!
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg I'm going back to watching bm crash luatex so you'll probably be ahead by the time I emerge
 
egreg
egreg
@DavidCarlisle I use bold face math very rarely, apart from \mathbf; ISO norms prescribe italic bold face for vectors and matrices, but I'm a mathematician and the ISO people aren't: it's clear from what they write in the norms about math. ;-)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg +1
and good night
 
egreg
egreg
@DavidCarlisle So probably I would simply define a new math alphabet with the boldface font for the occasional boldface symbol.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
12:25 AM
@egreg Oh flip I never use my packages, I just do it to find out what on earth unicode-math is doing (and to stop people mailing me complaining bm doesn't work)
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@egreg But that's just too easy (apart from the fact that bold math fonts are a bit scarce) bm tries to make symbols bold as well as alphabets so \sum and for alphabets it shifts the mathcode up to the 1dxxx range (if it can find the mathcode without crashing the engine) so you get bold even if there isnt a bold font (eg cambia math or still lmodern I think)
 
egreg
egreg
@DavidCarlisle What I think is that with Unicode math fonts, the whole concept of math groups should be revisited, making all symbols sensitive to a math group change; after all they just come from one big font.
Thus \bm{X} would simply be \begingroup\mathgroup=\bfgroup#1\endgroup.
Alas, it's not like this, I guess. :(
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg of course that is one of the things bm tries. It's possible that that could i fact be made to work but I suspect I'd need to know more about fontspec (rather than unicode math) to construct a big font with all the needed math parameters and with glyphs re-arranged so that it had bold glyphs wherever possible. for cambria math for example (I know you like windows) there isn;t going to be a bold font any time soon but it has bold italic and upright and sans up in plane 1
I'm moving things around in tex macros because I used to understand that, it may yet be better to re-arrange the glyphs at the tex font level with fontspec or even (if licence allows) at the font level with fontforge or something
 
egreg
egreg
@DavidCarlisle Enjoy. :)
Good night.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg night :-)
 
 
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percusse
percusse
2:23 AM
@PauloCereda Cover Psmith's ears : fudzilla.com/home/item/…
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Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
6:52 AM
@kan Sure, no problem.
 
 
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tohecz
tohecz
7:55 AM
Please, don't you know whether I can honour a bounty to a CW answer of a non-CW question?
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
8:22 AM
@tohecz As people don't get rep from a CW answer, I can't see how that would work
 
tohecz
tohecz
@JosephWright then what are the conditions when you can un-CW an answer?
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A: What's the quickest and easiest way to write "2nd" "3rd" etc in LaTeX

Jukka SuomelaI guess the quickest and easiest solution is to simply write "2nd", "3rd", etc. Superscripts aren't really necessary.

 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@tohecz Looks like this is deliberate, and I think I've got to respect Jukka's decision
 
tohecz
tohecz
@JosephWright damn, pity. I can't do anything to stress that answer. But I understand you
 
tohecz
tohecz
8:44 AM
@JosephWright if I start a bounty to try whether I can assign it to Jukka's answer, would you remove the bounty if I don't succeed?
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@tohecz I'd suggest asking a meta question on the main site: this may have been asked before
 
tohecz
tohecz
@JosephWright ok
@JosephWright You can even bounty a fully CW thread, so it should be possible :)
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@tohecz Ah, right
@tohecz I'd caution that while current practice is that superscripts are not used in English in the case you highlight, that's something of a 'fashion': they certainly were in the past, and this might change
 
tohecz
tohecz
@JosephWright well, it's CW, you certainly can ;) Sorry I gotta go now.
 
 
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tohecz
tohecz
10:00 AM
@NicolaTalbot Considering fmtcount localisations: If you wanted to add support for [czech] and [slovak], it is simple: we say the following: 
\def \ordinalnum #1 {{#1}\@ifnextchar.\@{.\@}}
 
 
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Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
11:32 AM
Meow.
 
egreg
egreg
11:45 AM
@PauloCereda I had lecture and had to provide a workaround for Peter Grill.
@PeterGrill Are you still here?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Oh. :)
Yay, arara got another contribution: sketch :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@PauloCereda quack
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle <3
I saw a duck yesterday, but it ran away from me. :(
 
tohecz
tohecz
12:03 PM
@Paulo You had some very nice beamer style. Would you be willing to share it with me if I asked you nicely?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Sure. <3 Email me, please. :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda tohecz@gmail.com
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Just a minute. :) You can now delete this line, so bots won't spam you. :)
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
!!/spam tohecz
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tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda they already do so much that it doesn't matter
 
egreg
egreg
12:12 PM
!!/eightball Will tohecz receive tons of spam?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Oh let me enable Psmith.
!!/eightball are you alive?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: concentrate and ask again.
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
!!/spam Paulo Cereda
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz: sent. :)
@AndrewStacey Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm deeply sorry, old chap, but the command spam does not exist.
@AndrewStacey Hey!
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
!!/choose spam, egg
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@AndrewStacey Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: spam
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
12:15 PM
!!/choose spam, spam, spam, egg, spam
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Lovely spam, wonderful spam. :)
@AndrewStacey Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: spam
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
!!/answer How much spam would a spambot spam if a spambot could spam spam?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@AndrewStacey Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, no answers.
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
!!/answer How much TeX would a TeX bot TeX if a TeX bot could TeX TeX?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@AndrewStacey Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, no answers.
 
egreg
egreg
12:17 PM
!!/eightball Is SPAM good?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm deeply sorry, old chap, but the command eigthball does not exist. Did you mean: eightball
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: yes.
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
!!/answer What has it got in its pocketssess?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@AndrewStacey Psmith, the TeX bot: Not fair! Not fair! Not fair to ask what it's got in its nasty pocketses! :: (asked aloud by Bilbo Baggins to the creature Gollum in J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy novel The Hobbit, or There and Back Again)
o.O
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
/scared now
 
tohecz
tohecz
Subject: your membership registration with TUG

Thank you very much for your membership registration with the TeX Users Group.
There's something very confusing about tag wikis: I can approve edits, but I cannot edit. Therefore I don't see the "Edit" button. What shall I then do with a not-so-good edit suggestion?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
12:35 PM
LOL coming up later on today: Psmith's sentence generator. :P
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
1:26 PM
@tohecz Gosh, you're getting spam already.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/help
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Good morning! I'm Psmith, the friendly TeX bot - the p in my name is silent, as in pshrimp. I'm here as a companion to our fellow users in the typographic land. As you probably noticed, I always reply under Paulo's account, but do not despair, I say, my replies are always preceded by my own name. Enjoy your stay at TeX.sx! If you need any help, just ask our chat residents. Cheerio!
!!/say
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm deeply sorry, old chap, but the command say does not exist.
Rats.
!!/help
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Good morning! I'm Psmith, the friendly TeX bot - the p in my name is silent, as in pshrimp. I'm here as a companion to our fellow users in the typographic land. As you probably noticed, I always reply under Paulo's account, but do not despair, I say, my replies are always preceded by my own name. Enjoy your stay at TeX.sx! If you need any help, just ask our chat residents. Cheerio!
 
egreg
egreg
!!/say
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm deeply sorry, old chap, but the command say does not exist.
@egreg: I need to restart the server, but I can't do it now. :)
 
egreg
egreg
!!/answer What's Psmith doing?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, no answers.
 
tohecz
tohecz
1:48 PM
!!/eightball Has Psmith become funny recently?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: my sources say no.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@AndrewStacey not spam ;)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
New user with 2 out of 3 answers accepted (that's probably a better ratio than egreg:-) tex.stackexchange.com/users/24224/eddy-em
 
tohecz
tohecz
@DavidCarlisle not anymore, @egreg has just stolen one his green prey
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz Too easy. :)
 
egreg
egreg
2:17 PM
@PauloCereda Did you see this user's profile?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Oh no!
 
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda I should leave a comment: change your gravatar or I will never answer your questions. :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg LOL
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg excuse my lack of knowledge, but I want to make sure: that is the logo of FC Milano?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Inter. :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
2:19 PM
@egreg you're mean I was gong to answer but edited his answer and left a comment instead as he joined today and got a tick:-)
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz FC Internazionale Milano. Pfui.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg you hate that one (obviously) ...
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz Let's say that it's not among my favorite teams.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg I've never thought I would say this, but you sound so cute when you try to be nice :)
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz Let's say it better: I'm not sad when they lose. :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
2:23 PM
@egreg no wonder you don't understand cricket:-)
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
2:40 PM
So far today I've tracked down a (possible) bug in pdflatex and an oversight in one of egreg's answers. That's two impossible things accomplished, just four to go.
 
egreg
egreg
@AndrewStacey What possible bug? And thanks for that comment!
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
@egreg Although latex has \pdfsavepos, it doesn't seem to work quite right: there's a constant vertical offset. See:
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A: TikZ: anchors of special node “current page” seem to be incorrect in landscape

Andrew StaceyI'm a bit hesitant about calling this a bug in pdflatex, but from my not-very-extensive investigations, it would appear that the position returned by the primitive \pdfsavepos is offset when in landscape mode and producing dvi. One way to explain the behaviour (though I've no idea how accurate t...

 
egreg
egreg
2:58 PM
@AndrewStacey Quite interesting. Actually DVI files don't know the physical paper size, at least in the original setup.
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
@egreg Interesting to know. But presumably TeX knows something about where stuff ends up on the page and uses this to compute \pdfsavepos. But also presumably if the dvi doesn't know the page size then recomputing from top left to bottom left is an inexact science.
 
egreg
egreg
@AndrewStacey It records coordinates relative to a point which the driver sets to its (1in-\hoffset,1in-\voffset) point (the values of \hoffset and \voffset are also recorded).
 
tohecz
tohecz
I think I just caught @David not being aware of a feature of his own package:
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A: Problem of different spaces between subscripts and letters in math mode

toheczThis is not a feature, but a property of TeX. The engine is not capable of automatic kerning. The boxes of f and b are just next to each other, but the shape of the letters makes it look like there's a space. You can of course improve it by saying \bm{f}_{\!b}. The macro \! inserts a small negat...

 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz The TeX engine is capable of doing automatic kerning! But it can't in some occasions. And math lists are a very tough beast to deal with.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg yeah, I should edit the first part out
 
egreg
egreg
3:09 PM
@tohecz Definitely. :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg well, done
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz One of the problem here is that the bold "f" and the subscript come from different fonts.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg yeah, but try the following with and without bm: 
\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{amsmath,bm}

\begin{document}

    \begin{equation}
    \left.
    \begin{array} {c}
    \displaystyle \frac{\partial\epsilon_f}{\partial t} + \nabla \cdot (\epsilon_f \boldsymbol{u}_f) = 0 \\
    \displaystyle \frac{\partial  (\rho_f \epsilon_f \boldsymbol{u}_f)}{\partial t} + \nabla \cdot (\rho_f \epsilon_f \boldsymbol{u}_f \boldsymbol{u}_f) = -\epsilon_f \nabla p + \mu \nabla^2(\epsilon_f \boldsymbol{u}_f) + \boldsymbol{f}_b
    \end{array}
    \right\}
    \end{equation}
 
egreg
egreg
The documentation of amsbsy.sty, which provides \boldsymbol states very clearly that \boldsymbol should be replaced by \bm (which bm does).
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg tell that to KOF
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
3:17 PM
@tohecz can't possibly be true, and anyway bm isn't my friend at the moment
@egreg tell the user to use xe/lua tex so they come from the same font and use an updated bm....
 
egreg
egreg
Darn, 15 upvotes on a single answer, without any point. :(
@DavidCarlisle Is it available? ;-)
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg that's because you post too much :p it rarely happens to me
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz I have just three answers today.
With 27 upvotes. Well, not bad. :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm deeply sorry, old chap, but the command say does not exist.
C'mon!
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg sorry, I mean, that's because you've been posting too much
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
3:25 PM
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Also, not much in the way of comments.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Er I'm sure it's absolutely brilliant but I don't understand the question or my reply, I'd better go and read again.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Shannon's ftp Theorem It needs at least twice as many people as the number of articles to get ieee do the right thing.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: You all are soo much nicer than so! imho we only learn to write good code with time.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg well it's on a public svn server
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: And don't forget David is a lego master.
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
!!/answer Say, say, what does it say?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@AndrewStacey Psmith, the TeX bot: | Say, Say, Tillabéry, Niger
!!/say
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
@PauloCereda Psmith is not a Dr Seuss fan, then.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
3:29 PM
Psmith, the TeX bot: So as Mathoverflow people put it It's a disaster but it's useful for driving the trivialities away from Mathoverflow.
@AndrewStacey :)
 
tohecz
tohecz
!!/help say
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Psmith, the TeX bot: According to my book, say displays some random sentences based on the content of this chatroom.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@AndrewStacey this ^^
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: For halloween, I'm gonna go as Comic Sans with a bad kerning.
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
@tohecz Yes, but my query was !!/answer not !!/say
 
tohecz
tohecz
3:30 PM
BTW, don't you know how do -100 from offering a bounty influence "earned 200 rep 30 times"?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Egreg Who can go without upvoting him? how paranoid is your texmf.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: The whole world belongs to you now, because everything has colour.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Insert maniacal laughter Please stop starring everything, this is embarassing.
LOL
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Yes, and There's at least one woman who was at least once correct p d Anyway, I just open Text building blocks, copy and paste or modify relevant text building block If I try to compute my Erdos number, the application will have a integer overflow.
o.O
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda " p d " ?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Blame MC implementation, not me.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: So as Mathoverflow people put it It's a disaster but it's useful for driving the trivialities away from Mathoverflow.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: I knew last century, now I just copy it from one package to another.
 
tohecz
tohecz
btw, this guy obviously doesn't understand what "Q&A wiki" means
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Q: Problem of different spaces between subscripts and letters in math mode

KOFIn math mode, the spaces between subscripts and letters are not always the same, but depending on the preceding letters! See e.g. (different colours indicate different spaces) Is it the feature of packages {amssymb} {amsmath} or .... Equations using {newtxmath} math font: \begin{equation}...

math-mode spacing subscripts kerning
First he twice added hid signature, now he included part of my answer into the question. I'm feeling like reverting the edit but I don't want to annoy him even more
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Speaking of enemies, did you mortal enemy stop downvoting your answers?
 
tohecz
tohecz
3:42 PM
@PauloCereda yeah, it seems it's ok now, dispite me hittimg him up again recently:
I'm really unhappy about the bad typography of this ad. — tohecz Jan 5 at 14:35
 
leo
leo
@Andrew what would you recommend TeXPad or TeXWriter?
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg not only font: the kerning is wrong and the letters are slanted instead of nicely fit onto the ellipse.
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz Another font would surely be an improvement. ;-)
 
Andrew Swann
Andrew Swann
@leo I think you wanted to ask @AndrewStacey instead of me!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Just punch in random c and m commands and Emacs will understand that you are lost p Are you saying that I should emulate them in Plain Tex?; I'll write a m n we howerver, I'd like to apologize if I abuse of you patience each time I need help and want to thank you all for the great help that I received and hope I will receive in the future in this chatroom Wow, now I start to understand what someone meant when they were talking about fanboys.
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
3:49 PM
@leo Assuming that you meant me: TeX Writer.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: You mean an expansion problem? Look, ma! No packages.
 
leo
leo
@Andrew Stacy indeed
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
@leo I had a conversation about this a couple of days ago with JLDiaz. You can see the transcript at: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/7019/…
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: But in Garamond to give it some subtlety.
 
leo
leo
Energy drink!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
3:52 PM
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Democratically elected p I think the chicken only crossed the road because of a bunch of expandafter's.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda 1) the SEIA will be after you soon, 2) you want Psmith to become your second parrot-buddy?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Se suddenly seems dry and shallow in all its on topicness.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Sx and some search patience i usually find my answers for my beginner questions Are you trying to take all of the starred spaces? well I didn't pick, they chose me.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: It's fascinating that the chat room is part of our daily life.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Don't you?; I've had an idea of a story about a duck, a hat and an arara main reason was Lack of evidence of usage in published literature, But I suspect they only checked earth literature I only ever read the manual once the author has stopped responding to my emails.
o.O
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
4:12 PM
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: As years go by, you might become involved with many different kinds of typesetting; and you'll find that your usage of Tex will keep changing as your experience builds.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@Paulo you're bored?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Never. :)
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Oh the irony! you don't have to star everything I write; Damn, I should have read source2e, it would have probably saved me a lot of code writing Hey guys, I got a silver badge for context.
@tohecz: Testing Psmith. :)
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: null
LOL fail
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Apparently there were other jobs around the house that needed to be done rather than playing on computer When I was a kid, there was no such thing as zero risk.
I'm gonna implement my own MC. :(
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Likewise, maths Seminars fall into two eras bb and ab Before Beamer and After Beamer.
 
tohecz
tohecz
4:31 PM
wouldn't Psmith want to as well tell use who's he quoting
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz Some answers are built with two or three existing ones.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: P I thought it was Higgs Bosom dang the world didn't end.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda I know, still it would be possible
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz It's not fun. :P
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Someone shows me a document written in Word? I think it's soft linked, but I have never done such a crime as embedding videos; epic question, epic answer.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda the middle one here is mine I s'pose
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@tohecz :)
I'll write my own algorithm, don't worry. :)
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: I most like about writing in Tex oh wait, I've done that as well.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: P I thought it was Higgs Bosom dang the world didn't end.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Restarting grammar We are doing something useful! At least we are increasing the amount of procrastination in the universe, which acts contrary to entropy.
Let's try something different.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Ddanger If you think about what Tex has to do when it's processing halign, you'll realize that the timing of certain actions is critical.
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
4:44 PM
@PauloCereda I recognise the second half of that one!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@AndrewStacey :)
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Enskip These commands are allowed only if the current list ends with an Op atom.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Begintt newinsert footins endtt newinsert which defines footins as the number for footnote insertions.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: This command is allowed only in display math mode.
I'm changing the datasource to the texbook.tex :)
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: What we need is less computers and more monks.
Psmith, the TeX bot: In last time's thrilling episode the plucky heroine defeated the mighty or, but not for long.
Psmith, the TeX bot: There are now 3 messages with bikinis on the star wall but that'll do.
 
user19161
@PauloCereda The bot has gone crazy, the bot has gone crazy!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JasonBourne Mad as a bicycle. :)
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Good morning starshine the earth says hello! The whole world belongs to you now, because everything has colour.
 
user19161
@PauloCereda Do you know my secret identity?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JasonBourne The Bourne identity? :)
 
Andrew Stacey
Andrew Stacey
4:51 PM
@PauloCereda It's fewer. Psmith would shop at Waitrose.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Sorry I was just fighting egreg for an expansion question tick Well, usually if I can't fall asleep I just watch Cricket.
Psmith, the TeX bot: Restarting grammar We are doing something useful! At least we are increasing the amount of procrastination in the universe, which acts contrary to entropy.
Psmith, the TeX bot: It's difficult also for me! Sometimes a question is bumped up by an edit and I tell myself this question seems interesting, just to see I already answered it.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Egreg great minds and people with Erdos number less than 5 think alike oh look, a new package Look Ma, this man can twist his fingers as if they were made of rubber, isn't that amazing? Not really, he's been using emacs for years.
 
tohecz
tohecz
hi Jasper!
 
user19161
@tohecz Hi! You discovered my secret identity!
 
tohecz
tohecz
@JasonBourne You know, I'm a conservative guy with a bad memory for names
 
user19161
@tohecz Conservative? That has many meanings...
 
tohecz
tohecz
5:02 PM
@JasonBourne I don't like changes ... in environment, friendships, places, opinions, etc.
 
user19161
@tohecz In fact, the more I think about conservative, the more I think that the word has no true meaning...
 
tohecz
tohecz
@JasonBourne it has a meaning, why you say it has not?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: As a bug in longtable.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@PauloCereda you need a new bot ^^^
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle <3
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm sorry, @David.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
5:07 PM
@PauloCereda I assume you faked that
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle <3
!!/eightball Did I fake that?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: yes.
HEY!
Stupid bot.
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@StefanKottwitz: are the guys at writeLaTeX interested in using arara? I'd be glad to help.
 
user19161
@PauloCereda Are you working on TeXworks as you mentioned?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JasonBourne Not yet. :( I'm quite crowed with work these days. :(
 
Adorable Creature
Adorable Creature
@JasonBourne: Hi, Jasper Loy!
 
user19161
@AdorableCreature Hi, you look very sweet in your real photo, if that was you.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
5:13 PM
For Fedora users: 
Hi,
at today's supplementary Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to
ship RC4 (release candidate) as the final release [1].

#agreed to ship RC4 as final release (with no votes against)

The release date is Tuesday, January 15, 2013!

Big thanks goes to everyone who helped with this RC3/RC4
testing effort and again to everyone who participated on
the whole release. Time for Fedora 18 release parties!

Jaroslav
 
user19161
@PauloCereda Finally!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JasonBourne Indeed. :)
 
Adorable Creature
Adorable Creature
@JasonBourne I'm coming for you my precious!
 
user19161
@AdorableCreature Oh my ghost!
 
user19161
@PauloCereda I tried out the beta already. The installer will shock you a bit as it is brand new.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
5:15 PM
@JasonBourne Really? I haven't seen it yet.
 
user19161
@PauloCereda I was a bit confused during the installation, but it is alright. There are now more options.
 
user19161
In fact it is this installer that resulted in the two month delay.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JasonBourne Ah.
 
user19161
@PauloCereda And Fedora 18 will likely be used by Red Hat for RHEL 7!
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
arara now supports sketch out of the box!
 
user19161
5:26 PM
It's high time Texmaker becomes TeXmaker. Should I let the author know? Maybe he really wants it as Texmaker...
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@JasonBourne Certainly 'Texpad' is deliberate
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm so happy about it! I think David should have a t shirt with nitah yeht nillor em ees yeht written in it.
Psmith, the TeX bot: And remember Russains have everything literally.
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Se suddenly seems dry and shallow in all its on topicness.
 
JLDiaz
JLDiaz
Is it the OP always notified of comments in any of the answers, or only of comments in the question?
 
tohecz
tohecz
5:48 PM
@JLDiaz only in the question
 
JLDiaz
JLDiaz
@tohecz Thanks
 
tohecz
tohecz
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Q: When writing a comment, how do I ensure that the person it is addressed to gets notified?

Hendrik VogtOften I want to address a comment to a specific user. How can I do that? I've seen that I've got to use the @ symbol for this, but I didn't find the exact rules in the faq. Can I notify any user? Do I have to put the full user name after the "@"? And what happens if the name contains a space? Ju...

support faq comments notifications
@JLDiaz "Notifications apply to the author, commenters, and editors of the question or answer that you are commenting on—users not in that list cannot be notified. The question and answers are all considered independently. "
 
Peter Grill
Peter Grill
@egreg Here now. Testing your patch now...
 
kan
kan
6:23 PM
Good evening.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@kan 'ello.
 
Yaren
Yaren
6:44 PM
hi people!
 
Silex
Silex
@Yaren, @kan: Hello!
 
Yaren
Yaren
o hi @silex
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Yaren Hi.
 
Yaren
Yaren
mmh personal question out off topic from latex... i am elaborating a business card for someone but he does not want his name and address to be there just the phone and the e-mail. now, if someone give you that card u might contact him even whitout knowin the name?
and sorry for bad gramma English is not my native :P
 
kan
kan
@Yaren No worries, you conveyed your thought well enough. :)
(I am not a native, anyway)
 
Yaren
Yaren
6:55 PM
thx @kan
hahahaha well i havent taken a course of english on my live, internet its my teacher(wiki.en, online games, public chat, etc..)
so my english is so messy and maybe some words are missplaced, sometimes i think i talk/type like Yoda
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Yaren I think name is an important part of any business. Phone and e-mail are ok, but without a personal reference, I'd never contact such service.
 
Yaren
Yaren
@PauloCereda thx for that
 
kan
kan
@PauloCereda Exactly my feeling.
 
Yaren
Yaren
well he says hes ok whit the company name, altough its not a company he just elaborate that name for his personal service.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Yaren IMHO he should then put his name instead of the "company". My guess would be that since his "company" doesn't exist as an official business, he doesn't want to establish any relation between his name and the business, in case of something bad happens (government stuff).
 
egreg
egreg
7:01 PM
@PeterGrill I didn't really test it, but, as DEK said, "I only proved my program correct, I didn't try it". :)
 
Yaren
Yaren
@PauloCereda i got the idea, and thx for that. btw what does mean "IMHO"?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Yaren "In my humble opinion". :)
 
Yaren
Yaren
@PauloCereda ooh! thx so much again =)
 
tohecz
tohecz
3 times in 2 days.
 
egreg
egreg
7:18 PM
@tohecz Problems with edits?
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg yeah, again. Quite often people don't even read the whole text for obvious typos when they edit. As well, they forget to retag.
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz :( I just edited a message removing "thanks" just to find it reinserted, and somebody approved the reinsertion. :(
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg sigh
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz And the train is 20 minutes late, so I'll not be home before 20:45. :(
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg I'm still at school
btw: tex.stackexchange.com/posts/91190/revisions some fun to go though to ease your delay ;)
 
egreg
egreg
7:25 PM
@tohecz That's what young wannabe researchers should do. :P
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg not if they have a lot of to-be-done-at-the-home-computer things to do
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz I suggest a detour through Pigalle and Montmartre before going home.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
!!/say
Psmith, the TeX bot: Oops, something wrong happened.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg that would not be so bad, I go though Stalingrad and close to Gare de l'Est
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Psmith, the TeX bot: And I'm so happy about it! I think David should have a t shirt with nitah yeht nillor em ees yeht written in it.
 
egreg
egreg
7:29 PM
!!/eightball Should tohecz go for a night off in Pigalle?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: you need to use emacs.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@PauloCereda I don't have enough fingers for that.
 
egreg
egreg
@tohecz Control-meta-super-c-l-x?
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg -mousemiddle-reset-monitoron-elevatordown
 
kan
kan
@PauloCereda When did this become a part of eightball standards? David has been clearly lobbying? :P
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
7:32 PM
@kan It's been around for some time. :)
 
egreg
egreg
Four answers for 43 upvotes today; and the least upvoted is the most difficult, of course (the workaround for Peter Grill). Well, I'm going off-line, at last the train is near to destination.
 
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg ok, see ya at home!
 
kan
kan
@PauloCereda oh!
 
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