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12:02 AM
@Ariel I don't think the user will receive your message unless he has been in the chat room recently or if you reply directly to one of his messages. In the former case when you use @ and try to type the first letter you will see options for autocomplete.
 
@JasperLoy thanks, I think s/he has noticed! :)
 
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@Ariel Oh but maybe I am wrong, and these SE algorithms change all the time.
 
@JasperLoy heh. I have no idea. My life is already too complicated to figure out even more things! ;-)
 
user19161
@Ariel Er, wait till you hear about mine...
 
@JasperLoy In another piece of good news, I got a new orange-ginger-ceylon blend today. its absolutely amazing (and I do not plan to spill any of it!)
 
user19161
12:13 AM
@Ariel Oh I think I would prefer the plain teas. When I used to frequent starbucks in the past I got earl grey.
 
user19161
@Ariel Another piece? What was the first piece?
 
12:30 AM
@JasperLoy oh I was just saying that... like a newscaster. "And in another sensational piece of news today, @JasperLoy admitted he prefers plain teas. Oh, the horrors!"
 
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@Ariel Ah yes I suspected. How is your dissertation coming along? If you need to complete it you should not be chatting!
 
@JasperLoy we call it charbucks as in they always burn their coffee or fivebucks. Nothing is below $5. Its adds up after a while. One of my charbucks addicted officemates estimated spending close to $700 a year on coffee/tea alone. insane.
@JasperLoy damn! you too???! Yes, I really need to get back! See you later! :)
 
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@Ariel My earl grey is the cheapest drink there I believe.
 
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@Ariel Good luck!
 
7:12 AM
33333 rep for @PeterGrill !!!
 
8:10 AM
Based on the OP's comment we can close this one as too localized
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Q: Beamer slide table with data tool

Nicola VianelloI'm trying to include in a beamer presentation a table automatically loaded from a csv file. I'm doing the following \usepackage{datatool} \usepackage{siunitx} \usepackage{booktabs} \usepackage{ctable} \usepackage{bm} \begin{frame}{Shotlist} \DTLloaddb[ noheader,% headers={% \shortstack...

 
@percusse Done
 
So.... after a discussion here yesterday about how rep capping works, I has a whole pile of upvotes. I nearly commented at the time that they are not that helpful and would probably be reversed and this morning:
 
Anybody here who will attend the EuroTeX meeting in the Netherlands? ntg.nl/eurotex2012/index.html
 
It's not that transparent how the rep counting works (and why they came off today rather than retrospectively from the day they were added, but please don't upvote answers so fast that there is clearly no time to actually read them.....
 
BTW: DANTE members get 50 Euro off!
 
8:28 AM
@PatrickGundlach As do UK-TUG members :-)
 
Well, DANTE members get an extra discount :-))
so it's 350 Euro
Or did I miss something?
 
@PatrickGundlach Oh, perhaps you do. I was just going on the '400 euro for Local TeX User Group (LUG) members' bit
Can't see the bit about DANTE
 
It's hidden: "Note: Dante members will receive an extra discount of 50 EUR." somewhere in the table
 
@PatrickGundlach Oh, so it is
 
@JosephWright So you're attending?
 
8:35 AM
@PatrickGundlach You are joking, right? I enjoy my TeX as a hobby, but EURO 350 + travel + ... is a bit much
Plus the week's holiday I'd have to take, which is right at the start of term
 
8:49 AM
@JosephWright Thank you
 
9:16 AM
@egreg I didn't understand your comment on my answer to vref? :)
 
@cmhughes If you use \eqref in the statement of a theorem (or any other italic context), the number and the parentheses will be upright anyway, which doesn't happen with your macro.
 
@egreg ah, I see. I hadn't thought of that.
it's not really my macro, it's from the documentation :)
 
While writing the text for my second solution I figured that it doesn't work in some cases. I think I have to implement a stack or a multi-level buffer ...
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A: Why won't my macros work properly?

Martin ScharrerThe issue you seem to have is that you have empty lines in the second argument of you \showxxxx macros. This empty lines cause a paragraph break, i.e. a \par is added. This means you have to test for three different things: argument is completely empty, argument is a space, argument is a space pl...

\showsection{Multiple levels 1}
\showsubsection{Multiple levels 1a}
\showsubsection{Multiple levels 1b}
\showsubsubsection{Multiple levels 1bI}
\showsubsubsection{Multiple levels 1bII}
\showsubsection{Multiple levels 1c}
    test
Should show 1 and 1c, but only shows 1c at the moment
 
@cmhughes \makeatletter\labelformat{equation}{\tagform@{#1}}\makeatother is what you need (requires amsmath).
 
@egreg much appreciated, I was just looking into it... I'll make the edit
 
9:24 AM
@cmhughes And I'll remove the comment. :)
 
@egreg many thanks, I've taken care of it.
 
Is it Ask your TikZ questions! day ?
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@percusse it's crazy- and so few MWE! 'draw-this-for-me'
 
@MartinScharrer Maybe a double-pass? Because you have some nodes of the "nesting graph" and you "only" need to include all its ancestors with it...
 
@percusse Glad I ignore the tikz-pgf tag :)
 
9:39 AM
@PatrickGundlach Ahaha, maybe I should become a LaTeX guru like you and ignore TikZ too. Yeah, let me do that :)
 
@tohecz I need to reset the buffer to an earlier state, i.e. remove everything till the parent of the next sectioning command. Maybe I apply grouping to achieve this.
 
10:38 AM
@tohecz I updated my solution now with multi-level buffers.
Have a look
 
user19161
10:50 AM
@DavidCarlisle That is why when I try to give people "presents", I usually do three at a time only!
 
@MartinScharrer speechless
 
@tohecz I'm looking forward to the responds of the OP. He had already issues with the original solution which was much simpler.
 
11:09 AM
@JosephWright I asked this yesterday, but you might actually have an answer. Is there anyone in the world who gets paid to work fulltime on TeX?
Please feel free to ignore if you don't feel like replying.
 
user19161
@FaheemMitha This question is ambiguous.
 
@PatrickGundlach You miss out on 1/3 of all question then ;-)
 
user19161
@FaheemMitha Do you mean working to polish the TeX release or just working full-time in a TeX related job?
 
Question: is it possible to have like a subdocument embedded inside a LaTeX document? It doesn't look like it. Is embedding a PDF file as part of a LaTeX compilation possible as an alternative?
@JasperLoy How so?
@MartinScharrer That many?
@JasperLoy : Working on TeX development. Not a job that just uses TeX. The latter would describe many people, e.g. secretaries and technical writers.
 
@FaheemMitha Ok, I checked now. It's just about 1/9 of all questions so far.
 
11:13 AM
@MartinScharrer Ah, that sounds plausible.
 
18,618 questions in total, 1,912 tagged with
 
Wow, that's a lot of tikz questions.
This site must be the number one place for tikz information now.
 
But I think TikZ questions are getting more popular so the fraction of new question should be higher than this.
 
@MartinScharrer That's true, but still so many (great) questions to read.
 
@MartinScharrer we should have a cricket rule for the site as well as this chat room, after every 2 tikz questions you have to ask about cricket
 
11:19 AM
@DavidCarlisle Er, why?
 
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@MartinScharrer Well, I think pstricks deserves more attention!
 
@FaheemMitha well in the case of this chatroom it is to stop egreg and paulo talking about football all day;-)
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@JasperLoy Ha Ha Good one!
 
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@MartinScharrer It is a difficult decision, but I think I will stick to pstricks because of its 3D capabilities, eg pst-solides3d.
 
@DavidCarlisle Well, there are lots of things one could talk about. E.g. opera. So, what do people think of The Magic Flute?
 
11:21 AM
@JasperLoy Well you can use both, you know.
@FaheemMitha Is that a plugin for Opera? ;-)
 
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@MartinScharrer Yes, just like we can dual boot Debian and Ubuntu! But I still prefer Debian.
 
@MartinScharrer Nope. :-)
@JasperLoy Yay for Debian.
debian/rules.
 
@JasperLoy Do you know how to draw a shaded sphere without the meridians or whatever it is called in the documentation (which is not at its best currently)? If yes, can you add it to the sphere question?
 
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@FaheemMitha Is that the one with the crazy "hahahahahahahahaha" soprano aria?
 
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Q: How to draw a shaded sphere?

JakeAndrew Stacey pointed out that the Rosetta Code entry "Draw a Sphere" doesn't have a TikZ entry yet. Is there a way to draw a "properly" shaded sphere using TikZ? The ball shading would seem an obvious choice, but it uses a circular highlight, which is not what it would look like in reality. So:...

 
11:23 AM
@JasperLoy @FaheemMitha Tried Debian once, didn't liked it, wiped the partition, kept using Gentoo until Ubuntu came along.
 
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@percusse No, I am a novice. I just mean that I will learn pstricks, not that I know pstricks!
 
@JasperLoy Yes, that would be the Queen of the Night aria.
@MartinScharrer Oh, so sad. :-(
 
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@FaheemMitha Ah yes, forgot the name there. I never really listen to French or German operas, but I like Italian ones. I am a baritone myself.
 
I still don't understand how the advanced Linux distros still keep the TeXLive update frequency once a year(even longer maybe). It's almost similar to Microsoft updates :p
 
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@percusse Er, there are microsoft updates every day!
 
11:27 AM
@JasperLoy I believe it is this:
 
@JasperLoy Yes but functionality related ones come with the frequency of the Halley comet.
 
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@MartinScharrer I am too scared to try Slackware/Arch/Gentoo.
 
Along with a handy audio recording. Gotta love the internet.
 
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@percusse That is why it might be better to stick to vanilla TL.
 
@percusse Packaging TeX Live is hard. And people don't want to do heavy lifting.
The Debian TeX Live effort is a nearly one man effort by Norbert, for example.
 
11:30 AM
@JasperLoy Oh, try sending that to a journal with a message explaining which version you have. You get a mail with cut/pasted letters threatening you.
 
Also, lots of people don't see the point of packaging TeX Live, which means even less manpower on average.
 
@FaheemMitha But MikTeX is pretty succesful I would say, and as far as I know that's one man show too.
 
@percusse Really?
@percusse Hmm. I dunno about Windows stuff. How often is that updated?
 
@FaheemMitha Pretty fast but I don't know the exact delay. The nice thing is that it allows you to update package-by-package which allows you to choose.
 
@percusse What about inter-package dependencies?
 
11:36 AM
@FaheemMitha I think that's a burden on the package authors. Ok, I did an update query and it shows that I have, say siunitx from 17 April and now there is a version from 27 april.
 
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@DavidCarlisle Oh I must have remembered wrongly. I thought you were involved as well!
 
@JasperLoy Well I started to be too busy to maintain a Gentoo installation myself.
 
This one looks like resolved by the OP
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Q: Change token of biblatex alphabetic style

DirkI have used biblatex for some time with the alphabetic style for my work. But now I have to change the token (e.g. [KK09]) in front of the items of the bibliography to a longer version: On two authors it should look like this: [Author1 Author2, Year] With three or more authors: [Author1 et. al....

 
11:57 AM
Per un barbiere di qualità!
 
@percusse That's fast.
 
@DavidCarlisle One more attempt to another TikZ question and we are in the cricket league right away.
 
"The Magic Flute" by Victor Borge:
 
@percusse I just answered a tkz question (but i deleted it as someone beat me by a second or two)
 
@PauloCereda Damn, I'm on the train and it would be a pain trying to see it.
 
12:08 PM
@egreg Oops, my bad. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle What are the most relevant cricket facts of the day?
@PauloCereda I'll keep it, so I'll look at it at home. :)
 
@egreg ask on site and I'll answer:-)
 
@egreg Cool! :) Beware, it's Victor Borge. :P
 
@PauloCereda 1.35 tall lying down hahahah.
 
@DavidCarlisle We should write a package for typesetting cricket scoresheets. Probably TikZ will be needed. And LaTeX3 as well.
 
12:12 PM
@percusse Priceless. :P
I love the part when he says, "all the chorus comes in, but nobody knows why except Mozart, and he's dead."
 
@PauloCereda Great stuff.
 
@percusse Victor Borge is a fantastic musician and comedian. :)
 
@PauloCereda Our Canadian friends usually stand up when the March of the Priests is played. :)
 
@egreg It's very close. :P
 
@PauloCereda And a great piece of music, too. Mozart's, I mean. :)
But also the Canadian anthem is not bad (compared to others we know). ;-)
 
12:25 PM
@egreg :)
Speaking of anthems, fun fact: our national anthem has two keys, F and Bb. There's a requirement that if the anthem will be sung, it has to be played in F. If it's only instrumental, it has to be played in Bb.
 
user19161
@PauloCereda La ran la le ra, la ran la la!
 
@JasperLoy The very same! :P
 
12:50 PM
@PauloCereda Funny stuff.
 
@FaheemMitha He's great. :)
 
user19161
Hello @nn! I see you have been doing many edits on SE!
 
@JasperLoy Hey. Which particular site are you thinking of?
I just edited my own post
 
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@NN I noticed on Ubuntu and TeX, but that was quite a while ago.
 
it says "added 4779 characters in body"
@JasperLoy This is true. I could feel it in my hands.
 
1:04 PM
So, does nobody get paid to work on TeX? I feel like I'm searching for that elusive happy man. Like in that fable.
 
@NN I meant TeX development. I'll have to remember to say that, as apparently it is not understood.
LaTeX or Word Processing Specialist. Sounds like a fun job.
Thrives in fast paced, high stress environment driven by demanding customers
Yay.
I see those River Valley people in India are not mentioned. I wonder why not.
 
1:33 PM
@DavidCarlisle Sorry!! That was me. I was just checking out the system to see if I could understand how it worked (for no particular reason). I actually did find 3 solutions that I had been looking for from your answers (so you see, I did read them). The rest were part of the experiment... Apologies once again, I think your answers are genuinely informative and enlightening, so I am sure my future upvotes will not be just experimental. :-)
@DavidCarlisle You did solve my 1/2 week old problem with your suggestions here in chat, so I was in a particularly grateful mood! :)
 
1:47 PM
@Ariel Avoid upvoting several answers by a user in a short time frame. The system assumes (incorrectly) that you didn't have time to read them, so it removes the votes.
 
@egreg I saw that! Oh well. Lesson well learnt. :)
 
@FaheemMitha There is some money to pay for LuaTeX and TeX Gyre work (not TeX itself, but paid for and in the same area). You'd have to ask Hans/Taco about the exact detail.
 
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@Ariel Protip: do at most three at a time on a UTC day. :-)
 
2:11 PM
@JasperLoy is at a time within 5 min or so?
 
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@NN You see, the actual algorithm is known only to TPTB. I am just giving a safe, well-tested guideline. You probably can do a bit more than that and get away with it. Also, you can cast normal votes in addition to the three.
 
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But note that moderators can see who has given another many upvotes or downvotes over time I think, though that info won't be used for anything.
 
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Oh, "well-tested" above means it has been done by the author on a regular basis, shh!
 
@JasperLoy We can see some detail, as you say
 
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@JosephWright Yes, but I haven't really given many presents on TeX, though I have on some other sites, shh!
 
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2:23 PM
@NN I think the three can be done within a minute even if you stick to the other rules mentioned above. :-)
 
2:53 PM
@tohecz half way to 66666
 
3:06 PM
@egreg and now it's mid afternoon I've still negative rep for the day and the site is still chock full of tikz questions I can't answer:-)
 
@JosephWright Ok. Just to be clear, I'm not looking for a job. :-) Just curiousity.
@DavidCarlisle What do you mean, negative rep?
 
@DavidCarlisle I've no cricket related TeX question, sorry. :) I should try understanding how cricket scoresheets are made, but when I see a match report I can never figure out who's the winner just looking at the score.
 
3:24 PM
@DavidCarlisle I believe that the question on resizing a longtable is about how to shrink it; the example is probably not reflecting the real table.
 
@FaheemMitha see the mage posted here it was -60 then it's gone up a bit now: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/4465840#4465840
@egreg yes I realised that after running his code, i stuck in \tiny (I hate applying resizebox to text:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh, right. The system took away some of your upvotes.
 
@DavidCarlisle And it would be quite hard to combine \resizebox with longtable.
 
@egreg well not so hard actually: I gave someone in an answer the other day (or was it in chat here) a macro to get the table width just adds up the values from the aux file so you could scale each chunk as you add it to the page (on later runs) but it's just the wrong thing to do:-)
 
user19161
This site is very friendly. It is the only one where I have more than 200 rep and received no downvotes. :)
 
user19161
3:40 PM
@DavidCarlisle Well, it's not really negative rep but just a removal of positive rep from yesterday!
 
4:06 PM
@JasperLoy yes in a way but as I said in my comment above, i don't know why they can't just show it that way (ie retrospective;y change yesterdays total)
 
4:21 PM
Wow, the cricket score sheet is complicated!
 
@PauloCereda Yup, but fun to fill in
 
@JosephWright I'm not sure of that. :P It looks like a blernsball score sheet to me (any Futurama fans around?).
 
@PauloCereda Partly depends how serious you are. I only do Lancs League-like matches (evenings, 20 overs per side, 3 overs per bowler, batmen retire at 30 runs)
My bowling action: 'right-arm badly'
 
@JosephWright I have no idea what those instructions mean. :P
 
@PauloCereda :-) Don't worry, quite often half of the team don't either
 
4:35 PM
@JosephWright LOL
@JosephWright: When I'll go to England, I want to go to a cricket match. :) (planned)
 
@JosephWright: Good to know you are still alive.. Was worried for a minute when the TeXLive Update utility to me that there were updates available, but did not see siunitx package listed!! Hope that does not mean you are slacking off :-)
 
@PauloCereda A nice three day test match, for instance. :)
 
@PeterGrill Should be one today, plus biblatex-ieee, and a beamer one probably next week. There was an achemso one :-)
 
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@PauloCereda I can never understand either cricket or baseball from watching on television.
 
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At least one can guess the rules of other games after a while.
 
4:44 PM
@JosephWright I should have known better... Keep up the good work -- it is really appreciated...
 
@JasperLoy It's the asymmetric nature of the game that confuses people
 
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My favourite games to watch on TV are table tennis and tennis!
 
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Somehow I never liked soccer.
 
@PeterGrill Next job is to update LaTeX3 to use @BrunoLeFloch's expandable fpu
 
@egreg What if in the end of the third day, they call a draw? :P
 
4:49 PM
@PauloCereda Test match is 5 days :-)
And yes, they do draw if no-one actually wins
 
@JosephWright Oh my!
 
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@JosephWright They may draw on the third day using tikz!
 
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Q: Are there (semi) standard symbols for SAVE, RUN, etc in TeX?

MaesumiAre there symbols or fonts to represent typical computer commands such as Save Run, etc?

 
@PauloCereda That doesn't concern me. :) By the way, prime rep!
An American collieague once told me that watching baseball was, for him, like watching paint dry.
 
@egreg Yay! :D
@egreg LOL
 
5:03 PM
@PauloCereda I didn't even know there are "standard" symbols for those. Are there, actually?
 
@egreg Exactly. :) There are no standard symbols for interfaces. HCI (human-computer interaction) might suggest some common images that resemble a proper action, but they are not standard.
 
@PauloCereda What about this one for "save"? ⌘S
 
@egreg I think the OP meant, say, a "disk" image to represent "save". :)
The good practice is to stick with the well-known shortcuts, like ⌘S, ⌘C and ⌘X. :)
 
@JosephWright Yes, the images represent semantic actions. :)
 
5:36 PM
@egreg: Did you answer a question at the "German" c.t.t. ;-)?
 
@MarcoDaniel Just to say that there was at least one error. :) I always do when a German question is posted. Sometimes I add "Constantinopolitanischerdudelsackspfeifenmachersgesellschaft". My students are always amazed when I write it on the blackboard without a glitch. :)
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@egreg Oh. My. God.
 
@egreg Cool word ;-) -- amazing.
 
@MarcoDaniel It's Mark Twain's, of course.
I use it when I introduce formal logic to high school students, usually after having presented the Berry paradox; I ask them "what's a word?". The answers are, as expected, vague. So I write that one and explain what it "means". "So, is this a word?" I ask. It doesn't have a real meaning.
 
5:54 PM
@egreg I really like the introduction in Bourbaki. So basic ;-)
 
The "symbols" question gave me an idea of asking a new one. :P
 
6:46 PM
Hi.
Is it okay if I ask a question here instead of on the main site?
 
@Mien Yes
 
I want to load an R-package in my LaTeX file, but I don't know how to.
I tried <<>>=library(plotrix)@ and \Rpackage{plotrix}
But both give an error.
Normally library(plotrix) should work, no?
Do I have to put the package somewhere?
 
I have no idea. :(
 
That makes two of us.
Ah yes, I've found it.
Thanks for letting me be here.
 
@Mien Well, that was fruitful! :)
 
6:57 PM
All thanks to you of course!
 
@egreg Not to burst your bubble, but that's not a german word ;-) Here is one, which even was voted word of the year in 1999: "Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz".
 
@StephanLehmke I'm too scared to ask its meaning. :P
 
I prefer the Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbarbärbel
To listen:
 
The only thing I understood was "ein bier". :P
 
@knut :D
 
7:13 PM
I had to listen the story first to understand the word - or should I say the sentence without spaces?
 
Well, I gave up when Barbe (or whatever the name of the second woman was) was in the picture.
So, is this a fun chat or should I get out?
 
@Mien Oh, things are usually pretty light-hearted
 
I might hang around then.
 
@MarcoDaniel: I had typed the document name as the package does which shows where the name "cool" comes from. But leaving it as you corrected it.
 
@JosephWright @Mien I would say that chat is for a chatting and for everything you are not allowed on the site ;)
 
7:20 PM
@tohecz More importantly, is there anything that isn't allowed here?
 
@StephanLehmke That's actually the idea! It looks like a word, but it isn't!
 
@Mien Not really
 
@Mien I would say nothing more than politeness ;)
 
Interesting.
 
user19161
@Mien It actually depends a bit on which room and who frequent the room. It affects the culture of the room and the boundaries.
 
7:24 PM
Are most people here Americans or Europeans? Or something else?
 
user19161
For example, there is one room where people don't like it if you make youtube or wikipedia links expand. There is another room where people do it all the time.
 
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@Mien All over the world, except Antarctica.
 
@JasperLoy Cool!
 
@Mien Depends of course on the time of day
 
Never ever mention the unholy editor which starts with the letter W.
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user19161
7:25 PM
@JosephWright Also, there are people who sleep in the day and not night!
 
@Mien Are you a soccer fan? :) (Just to upset David, of course)
 
@JosephWright You change continents depending on the hour of the day?
@egreg Yes. Well, I like playing more than watching.
I hope that's good enough to upset David.
 
user19161
By the way @mien, I think mien means face in English. It is not commonly used today.
 
Saying the W word here has the same effect of pronouncing Frau Blücher. :P
 
user19161
You see mien in old songs or old books.
 
user19161
7:27 PM
@PauloCereda I am still trying to figure out what W is.
 
@JasperLoy Ah, I didn't know.
 
@PauloCereda /horses neighing in the background
 
@egreg LOL
@JasperLoy Think Microsoft. :)
 
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@PauloCereda Ah, that is a word processor, not a text editor!
 
@JasperLoy My bad. :P
 
user19161
7:29 PM
And you only mentioned W, you left out E and P which LaTeX can do too!
 
@JasperLoy Oops. :)
 
user19161
Instead of W/E/P, we have pgf/pgfplots/beamer or pstricks/pst-plot/powerdot.
 
user19161
But I must say the equation editor for W is quite good for math and the shapes for W is quite good for graphics.
 
Hmm, I'm feeling adventurous.
Microsoft Word
hopes nothing bad happens now
 
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@Mien shows you the cross
 
7:33 PM
(slow motion) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 
:D
 
Great, now it's raining frogs here. :)
 
user19161
Same, raining here too!
 
user19161
Happy Vesak Day!
 
@Mien: The power of Knuth compels you!
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Phew, we are now safe. :)
 
user19161
7:36 PM
So @nn did you notice something about your rep today?
 
@Mien Oh! My planned bike tour delayed for rain. :(
 
You're welcome!
 
user19161
Why is this question on meta?
 
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Q: Warning!Virus detection on Java Script

azetinaAccording to Avira Internet Security the wmd.js has the following "[DETECTION] Contains recognition pattern of the HTML/Rce.Gen3 HTML script virus." Can anyone tell my why this is poping out on my computer?

 
user19161
7:51 PM
Hmm, maybe he accidentally posted on the wrong site.
 
LaTeX doesn't seem to like me :-(
 
@Mien No?
 
I'm trying to work with BibTeX for the first time.
 
@Mien Problem is?
 
@Mien Good luck! We are with you!
 
8:02 PM
@JosephWright He prints my reference keys instead of the author's name and year in the text and the references do not show up at the end of the document.
 
However, I have couple collaborates that does not use it, and it is so complicated without BibTeX or similar!
 
@Mien Did you run LaTeX, BibTeX, LaTeX, LaTeX (i.e. four steps)?
 
No.
 
@Mien A classic issues for beginners
 
I'll try it (but I have it all in one I think)
Hmm, problem is he stops running in the first time.
Nope.
 
8:09 PM
@Mien 'Stops running'?
 
I used citet{} but apparently that doesn't work. I changed it to cite{} and it runs.
 
@Mien \citet is defined by natbib but not by the LaTeX kernel
 
I'm checking some courses now to see if I forgot a package or something.
I forgot to put \bibliographystyle{}
 
8:27 PM
YES!
Finally.
 
@Mien :)
 
This is driving me a bit mad to be honest. But I think I'm done.
How many years (or whatever) have you got experience with LaTeX?
 
@Mien Started around 2004 :-)
 
@Mien Better do not ask. I started at tha high school, now I'm finishing masters at the university, which is cca 10 years ;)
 
Cool.
I've been postponing learning it for over a year.
That's something, right?
 
8:30 PM
@Mien I was the same. I heard about LaTeX around 2000, thought about it for my PhD and put it off.
 
Well, I wanted to write a paper with it last year, but we have very specific rules and I thought you couldn't do that with LaTeX. Or at least, that's the excuse I used.
We have an optional assignment, with Sweave and LaTeX. I do my internship with this professor next year, so he must like me ;)
 
Awesome, now 11,111 reputation! Next will be 100000 I guess
 
@egreg What is "Constantinopolitanischerdudelsackspfeifenmachersgesellschaft", and why do I get hits to a Mark Twain novel when I google it?
@egreg Ok, never mind.
 
@JosephWright: did you see the last comment to your blog post?
 
@PauloCereda No I hadn't
 
8:44 PM
Does anyone knows why mcode package is not available in CTAN ? Isn't that true that all Tex packages are available there ?
 
@PauloCereda Geez, sounds like a ugly environment to be in!
 
@Werner Yep. And the last sentence gave me shivers.
 
@Negin Only if people upload them. Robin Fairbairns asks people when they don't, but some just ignore him :-(
 
@PauloCereda I'm sure we won't get there. The moderators here coach well.
@Negin It depends on the author mostly.
 
@Werner Thank God. :)
 
8:45 PM
@FaheemMitha It's from Mark Twain's "A Connecticut yankee"; the main character finds himself at King Arthur's time and does every sort of "magic" through the technology of his time. He utters those "German words" as if they were magic formulas in his battles of magic against Merlin
 
@JosephWright I always think of the excellent kbordermatrix.
 
@Werner I had in mind some linguistic stuff from the University of Essex, as I know that Robin has asked for an upload and not got anywhere
 
Now the first page of tex.stackexchange.com/users?tab=reputation&filter=all only has 10k+ users.
 
@egreg I See. And they are nonsense words. Would have been more interesting to use real German words.
 
@FaheemMitha Mark Twain wrote something about the beauty of the German language. :) See cs.utah.edu/~gback/awfgrmlg.html
 
8:50 PM
@FaheemMitha @Stephan posted a word before: "Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz"
This is a real word (official title of a law) - but an extreme example. I am sure that the people who made it were well aware of the length and tried to have some fun
 
I can not download it from mathwork directory because the website's access is denied from Iran , and what I found on other websites was the text of that.can you tell me plz how can I convert it to mcode.sty ?
 
@FaheemMitha Just in case you want to read the law: mv.juris.de/mv/gesamt/RkReUeAUeG_MV.htm
 
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@Negin Er not sure I understand your question.
 
@egreg The internet has too much stuff on it. My browser can't keep up. Neither can I.
I want to go back to 1980 or so. The net was smaller then.
 
user19161
@FaheemMitha Er are you using IE?
 
8:57 PM
@ Jasper Loy I don't have mcode package so I want to download it . The website where this package is available is not accessible from where I live , So I tried to find it on some other websites , but on other websites mcode.sty file was not available and instead the text of the file was available such as these two : web.mit.edu/paul_s/www/14.170/matlab/mcode.sty and freedownload.is/txt/mcodesty-9093955.html .
 
@JasperLoy Chromium.
 
user19161
@Negin Isn't the first link the style file already?
 
@knut Too many links! Aaargh!!! Can't keep up!! (Falls down dead out of exhaustion).
 
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