« first day (401 days earlier)      last day (4524 days later) » 

12:02 AM
@GonzaloMedina In a battle between \minipge, \scalebox, and \resizebox who should win? tex.stackexchange.com/q/37236/2693
 
(Eye of the Tiger playing in the background.)
 
@AlanMunn: Did I just imagine that you commented on my answer?
2
A: How to cite authors in small cap with \citet?

lockstepTo cite authors in small caps, it is not necessary to create a new .bst file -- instead, redefine the \NAT@nmfmt macro which is responsible for formating the author's name. (See this answer for other areas of application for \NAT@nmfmt.) \documentclass{article} \usepackage{natbib} \makeatlette...

 
12:17 AM
@lockstep Yes. You are slowly losing your mind. :-) No, actually I deleted it immediately, since it was wrong, so if you are losing your mind, this event isn't the relevant evidence. And unlike bad answers, bad comments thankfully aren't preserved for 10k users to enjoy.
 
@AlanMunn Funny thing, a few hours later the OP Ali (similar to Alan) commented "Thanks for the response."
 
@lockstep Ah, now I see. You've replied to my now non-existent comment. But I swear I deleted it before your comment was posted.
@JosephWright I thought that what most of us read Usenet for.
 
@AlanMunn And I still haven't earned the "Precognitive" badge. ;-)
 
@lockstep Did you notice how I was on a bit of a biblatex roll the past week? I now know more than I care to about APA 6.
 
@AlanMunn I did. :-) And these custom-style questions are not my cup of tea.
 
 
3 hours later…
3:23 AM
@GonzaloMedina Is my comment a sufficient answer?
 
 
1 hour later…
4:29 AM
@AlanMunn I think not. \pagestyle{plain} will set plain as the page style for all the pages until some other style is manually chosen, and that is not what I would expect. Or did I misundertand your answer?
2
 
4:49 AM
@AlanMunn \resizebox, obviously. shrink should be forbidden.
 
 
1 hour later…
5:59 AM
@GonzaloMedina No, you didn't misunderstand the answer. I've deleted the answer, but added some more remarks to it about when the problem arises that might be helpful, although they aren't a solution yet.
 
 
3 hours later…
9:07 AM
Cool, I sense some Minority Report references going on. :)
 
 
1 hour later…
10:16 AM
@PauloCereda \documentclass{minorityreport}\usepackage{tikz}\usetikzlibrary{time.travel}.....‌​.
 
@percusse LOL
Using the minorityreport class, @lockstep should've earned a badge for an answer he's yet to write! :P
 
@PauloCereda hahah, he will edit all tikz-timing related questions probably.
 
@percusse haha indeed! :)
 
 
2 hours later…
12:01 PM
In the category "amusing nicknames":
 
@TorbjørnT OMG! Epic! :)
 
12:28 PM
Double-Yay! My TeX-'n-Fr3ndz swag shipment has arrived. Thanks to Joel and to all you in the community who made this possible! BTW, the sharpie writes Unicode!!!!
 
12:40 PM
@JosephWright Hmm, I remember I got into chemistry for the Explosions.
 
 
1 hour later…
2:03 PM
Every time I hear "swag" I remember Monty Python's sketch "Dennis Moore". Dennis, his horse Concorde and his swag bag:
 
2:18 PM
@AlanMunn Usually \resizebox is the way to go. Of course adjustbox provides minipage and \resizebox in one, plus more if requiered.
 
@MartinScharrer What was your comment about the missing %? Did you mean after the opening brace of the third arg of the \resizebox command?
 
 
1 hour later…
3:27 PM
8
Q: How can I produce a fancy chapter heading like this one?

JosephI just found some chapter headings that are really nice: But I can't exactly figure out how to extend the rule off the margin and put the figure on the page before the chapter and the caption on the next (chapter heading) page. (Some tip on the footer would be nice, too). The layout of the oth...

This is such a good answer1 :D
 
3:47 PM
Got my tex.se swag! sweeet!
 
4:08 PM
We don't have any book printing service. Damn.
 
@YossiFarjoun Ah sorry. I meant we brazilians. :)
OK, technical question: do you guys think it would be worth printing TeX by topic in A5 format? :)
 
best thing about it, being able to go Ctrl+F
FYI, thats a no
 
4:23 PM
Ah. :)
 
4:47 PM
@AlanMunn Yes, your comments were indeed helpful. Noticing that \tableofcontents produced the problem, but that \chapter* didn't, pointed to the cause of the problem, as egreg's answer shows. Thanks.
 
@GonzaloMedina The trouble is, I looked at the code for \tableofcontents and they are identical in both report and book class, yet the problem only shows up in book, so I still don't understand why the problem arises.
 
5:06 PM
@PauloCereda You know you can get it from Lulu? lulu.com/product/paperback/tex-by-topic/3109468
 
First badge I got by accident. I hit downvote when trying to upvote, then immediately undid it and still got the critic badge.
2
 
@TorbjørnT Hm interesting! I'll take a look, thanks!
 
Does anyone want to suggest some LaTeX collaboration tools for windows? WinMerge springs to mind, any others?
 
5:22 PM
@Canageek What type of collaboration? Standard version control (say GitHub or BitBucket) is good if everyone is comfortable with the concepts
 
@JosephWright I'm having enough trouble talking them into trying LaTeX without throwing stuff like that at them, though I'm trying.
The fact someone is spending DAYS trying to get the figures in word to work properly is helping though.
 
@PauloCereda No problem, Viktor Eijkhout mentions it on his website (eijkhout.net/texbytopic/texbytopic.html)
 
@Canageek WinMerge is a great choice. :)
 
@Canageek If people are learning, one approach is for you to use version control and simply send them copies by e-mail, then use the system at your end for merges, etc.
That way you get some track of who did what, etc., while they don't really have to worry
If you go with a DCVS then you don't need a remote system at all
 
@JosephWright I keep all my files on bitbucket, just in case. But they will want some sort of highlighting on their end. Will work on getting them to use bitbucket, but Mercurials diff system is not great.
I wish I had a chem paper written in LaTeX to show him the source of.
 
5:28 PM
@Canageek Mine are done in Word, I'm afraid. I'm not the boss, so don't make the call
 
@JosephWright Someone needs to update those lists of great LaTeX documents with a nice, practical, annotated example.
I think I'll make a question out of that.
 
@Canageek Take a look at Chemical Structure and Reactivity by Keeler and Wothers (a first year integrated text). They typeset the entire thing themselves, and it's pretty impressive!
Doubt we can get the source, though :-)
 
@JosephWright But I want the source of it, with annotations saying WHY they did each thing.
 
@Canageek I can send you a guide to X-ray crystallography that works that way :-)
Perhaps I should put it on BitBucket
 
@JosephWright Superman is a chemist?!
Oh wait.
 
5:33 PM
@JosephWright That would be awesome.
 
@Canageek Give me a little while: I've got a reaction to work up in a second, then have to head home
 
@AlanMunn Ah, that deserves a closer look. This afternoon I'll take a look.
 
5:55 PM
2
Q: Conversion pt to mm or cm

PeterIs there any way how to convert pt to mm or cm in plain TeX?

That's a question were a little background info would be nice. Why does he need this with plain-non-e-TeX? Smells a little after homework, too.
 
@MartinScharrer Also, if you are asking today for a plain TeX solution then really you should know a lot of the concepts here. As you say, requiring 'no e-TeX' is certainly odd: there are people who stick to TeX82, but they can probably answer this question easily.
See for example the odd comment about \catcode
 
@MartinScharrer There are people who give out TeX homework? o.0
 
6:12 PM
@Canageek Apparently, homework is homework. :(
It's like the joke, how you make a brazilian jump into a lake: just tell him it's against the law.
 
@PauloCereda What type of class would give out a question like that as homework?
 
@Canageek I have no idea. Probably self-defense. :)
 
o.0
 
:D
In other unrelated news: I'm thinking of writing a code snippets organizer. Is anyone interested?
 
6:32 PM
Now
Ironman is sort of manly
But ironman = (fe) male
confused
 
@PauloCereda Yes, absolutely. Can you model it on BiBDesk? (I know if won't be as nice since it will have to be cross-platform)
 
@AlanMunn I'll give it a try. :) Actually, I've been thinking of adding a "Mac layer" on my apps, so they would look nice when in Macs. :)
 
@PauloCereda I hate to be a Mac snob, but in most respects it does have the nicest looking GUI, IMO.
 
6:49 PM
@AlanMunn I agree. :) TBH I think it's easier to think of a Mac GUI than a Windows one.
 
@AlanMunn What is this bibdesk you speak of? I am interested.
@AlanMunn @PauloCereda Hands you a copy of classic KDE
 
@Canageek Popular bibliography manager for OS X: bibdesk.sourceforge.net
 
7:04 PM
@Canageek Do not make us kill you with our iPod Touch earphones. :P
 
7:41 PM
@TorbjørnT Oh. OS X. Nevermind.
@PauloCereda Are you allowed to do something as untrendy as murder? I thought fraud was the hip crime right now.
 
7:55 PM
"Got a new PC laptop. Considered a Mac, but I lack the time and energy to continually talk to other Mac users about how smart and hip we are." -Blake Northcott
 
@Canageek LOL
 
0
Q: What is missing in LaTeX?

Harrold CavendishI have been reading this article and started to think about the position of LaTeX amongst the current competitors. Currently, I am using it (or XeTeX) even for ‘casual writing’ and sometimes I spend free time by exploring its possibilities and various solutions based on specific packages. When I ...

Oh goodness, where to start
@Canageek I have a Mac: I am neither cool nor hip
 
@JosephWright And they still let you own a mac? o.0 I thought they hunted down lame people who used macs and beat them with iPods.
 
@JosephWright IMHO most of the items are about language use. Specification and use are different. Probably his claims might be covered by a good editor.
 
@PauloCereda Several of the items are really about the fact that (La)TeX is a programmatic approach
Then there are some which are simply wrong or badly written (using 'microtypography' to mean I think 'grid typesetting')
 
8:00 PM
@JosephWright Do we need to take someone who wrote "The Latex project is mismanaged since many years. " seriously?
 
@Canageek The list means not the LaTeX Project but the combination of all TeX-based code. It's a call for a monolithic approach, more or less
 
That's settled then: let's beat him with the TeXbook.
 
@JosephWright ...isn't that what ConTeXt tried?
 
@Canageek For the TeX part to some extent, but not the editor etc.
 
@egreg: we miss you! :)
 
8:02 PM
@JosephWright He also seems to want to make it into a GUI. To which I say "HISSSSSS PICTURES BAD"
 
Question's been updated
There's also the problem that to make a good judgement on several of the points would require a reasonable amount of experience with say InDesign (as the original article cites it several times)
 
8:23 PM
@JosephWright I used old versions of InDesign, still with the old PageMaker name. It looks just like Scribus.
 
@PauloCereda So what does Scribus look like?
 
@Canageek It reminds me of QuarkXPress. :P
which resembles PageMaker.
Then Scribus.
:)
Bad examples, I know. :)
 
@PauloCereda ......Yeah. I've used Word, Publisher, Powerpoint, emacs, notepad++, Visio 1.0 (Before it was bought by Microsoft, we just copied it from computer to computer until it stopped working on 64-bit systems) and a few others. Is it like any of those?
 
@Canageek I'd go with Publisher. :)
 
@PauloCereda Publisher was pretty sweet. Course I last used Publisher 2000, and it costs a stupid amount now.
 
8:38 PM
@PauloCereda What it looks like does not really help with the low-level technical questions on abilities :-(
 
@Canageek Publisher had a lot of templates. Scribus/PageMaker is more basic.
 
@JosephWright Is TeX truing-compleat?
@PauloCereda All I used were the basic page sized ones and layout guide. Most of the templates were terrible. I loved how text would flow from one box to others through.
I wish someone would make a TeX-plugin type of thing so I can do layout in a GUI, then hit compile and get nice typesetting.
 
@Canageek Probably via a scripting language, I'd expect so
 
@JosephWright Wait, do I have to learn Lua to use LuaTeX? That seems rather intense.
 
@JosephWright You aren't funny. :)
 
8:43 PM
@Canageek Oh sorry, I thought we were still on InDesign (seriously). Yes, TeX is formally Turing-complete, but that does not necessarily mean anything in the real world.
 
@JosephWright it means it should be possible to fix any problem, given enough monkeys and typewriters. By which I mean we grab a couple of TeX geeks and lock them in a room until it works.
 
@Canageek Well yes, but that skips over some issues. For example, pdfTeX does not fundamentally know about sidebearings (the white space around a letter which is within the bounding box), so removing it can't be done programmatically. XeTeX and LuaTeX can get at this, so can do stuff that pdfTeX cannot.
 
@JosephWright Isn't PDFTeX declared feature-complete anyway? i.e. only bugfixes from now on?
 
@Canageek Well not necessarily: that was the plan, but then LuaTeX turned out different to how it once looked. I don't really know Thanh, so quite what the plans are I'm not sure.
 
@JosephWright How did it once look, and what does it look like now?
Finds a rock and sits on it in a meditative pose to listen
(Actually I'm killing time until the centerfuge is free)
 
8:51 PM
@Canageek Well, LuaTeX was supposed to be 'pdfTeX 2', with the idea being that LuaTeX could then be used as the standard engine. However, as it's developed LuaTeX has (1) dropped some primitives that pdfTeX had added and (2) made some non-back compatible changes under certain circumstances.
 
@JosephWright So are there things PDFTeX can do that LuaTeX can't?
 
That means that LuaTeX can't be used as a drop-in update for pdfTeX, and so there was talk of a restart on pdfTeX development
@Canageek No, but they are not done in the same way. The biggest issue is some hyphenation/line break edge cases. They can't change for the default TeX engine.
 
@JosephWright Which one of the two wants to change them? LuaTeX?
 
@Canageek Yes, that's the point. pdfTeX is the default engine for MiKTeX and TeX Live as it can be used as a direct, totally-compatible replacement for TeX82 (Knuth's TeX).
 
@Canageek There are some primitives in pdftex which are not in luatex. The pdfcmds package adds most of them as macros, but that's not 100% the same. Like \pdffilemod needs two expantion steps with luatex (because it is a macro) but only one with pdftex.
 
8:54 PM
tex still runs TeX82, but for example etex or latex will use the pdfTeX binary
@MartinScharrer Yes, but they are not the deal-breaker for replacing pdfTeX with LuaTeX
 
@JosephWright @MartinScharrer Why does LuaTeX want to change those? Wouldn't they like to become the most used engine?
 
@Canageek Yes, by getting us all to use ConTeXt :-)
 
@JosephWright Well, no, but it isn't a full superset.
 
@JosephWright Wait, what? What does ConTeXt have to do with it? Now I'm confused.
 
@MartinScharrer No, I know. I think that might actually have happened after it became clear that the other issues prevented LuaTeX replacing pdfTeX.
@Canageek The people who are actually writing LuaTeX are closely-associated with ConTeXt
 
8:57 PM
@JosephWright So why are they breaking old TeX documents? Isn't ConTeXt just a rival macro package on top of TeX?
 
@Canageek They are making decisions they feel are sensible in the long term. It's not as if pdfTeX is going anywhere (or indeed if TeX82 will be dropped). ConTeXt is indeed an alternative macro package set to say plain TeX or LaTeX2e.
In most cases, you don't get any change, but TeX82 => pdfTeX is 100% by design
 
@JosephWright: BTW, does XeLaTeX and PDFLaTeX has different settings for justification or line breaking?
I saw some differences in my clip test files between both.
 
@MartinScharrer I'd have to check, but I don't think so at the engine level. Clipping is a driver thing, and drivers are allowed to vary.
XeTeX is based on eTeX, and does not alter any of the 'breaking' things which LuaTeX has done.
 
@JosephWright: No, I had some paragraph and some words were not at 100% the same position for both. I used an image compare tool to check if both clip the same way. They did, but I got a lot of false positives from the different text.
 
@MartinScharrer I'd have to look at the detail, but then XeTeX has never been mooted as a replacement for pdfTeX, so the issue probably never came up
 
9:04 PM
@JosephWright This is a dreamers' question. I can't see any practical way anyone is going to make the required investment. Even the question of aligning individual lines on opposite sides of the paper may be OK for novels (and could be done easily by judicious sizing of the chapter headers), but anything technical can't hope to achieve it, IMO. Even Bringhurst doesn't.
 
@BrentLongborough On grid setting, most approaches I've seen do break down once you move from all-text to including maths, sub/superscipts, figures, etc.
 
So I really think the question isn't worth addressing.
 
@BrentLongborough There's a reason I've commented but not answered :-)
 
@JosephWright No conspiring, but were you the other vote to close?
 
@BrentLongborough I can't. Mod votes are binding, so we only vote to close if it's either clear-cut or it's the last vote needed
 
9:07 PM
@JosephWright Thanks. I don't say it's wrong, but it would be nice to have everything the same way for comparision.
 
@MartinScharrer Did you stick to exactly the same fonts, etc.?
I guess so, but ...
 
@JosephWright Yes, same small test file. The text was actually just 100x "text " or something like it.
 
@MartinScharrer May have been the driver. To compare pdfTeX (engine) with XeTeX I guess I'd use dvipdfmx
 
Note to self: throw rocks at ducks after finishing my LaTeX lexer.
 
@PauloCereda Call of Duty
2
Q: Set music in LaTeX with ABC or LilyPond?

TobiI’ll give a tutorial “LaTeX for musicians“ in the next year and certainly i want the to show how to include music in their texts. I’m a musician myself but I never used LaTeX to typeset music. I found two ways to include music in a LaTeX document (plus: integrate music as image) and I want to sh...

 
9:16 PM
Nice discuss on c.t.t.:
https://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/ccbccddc56566af1?hl=de#
https://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/0eb972f5fc36a115?hl=de#
https://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/29822a8234aa3feb?hl=de#
 
@MarcoDaniel Indeed
Between here and there I'm busy :-)
Also:
2
Q: How do package authors find the time?

gerritNot sure if this question belongs here, on the main site, or not on TeX.SX at all. Let me know if it belongs somewhere else. I have recently made some leaps in my knowledge of LaTeX, in particular its packages. I am very impressed by projects like beamer and tikz, so I really wonder: how do pack...

 
@JosephWright Also an interesting question. I am not an academic -- I am a real worker ;-)
 
@percusse Cool! I actually need to think of a good answer. :)
@egreg: we have a abc/lilypond question. :) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/37345/…
 
9:36 PM
4
Q: What is the best tool for cutting up scrap wood?

AidanOI have some wood left over from building a patio, mainly some planks. Normally when I'm creating firewood, I just use an axe a split the wood, but these are too long for that. I really don't want to try and cut them with a wood saw or an Axe. The only tools I can think that make sense are a Ji...

5
The answer gets progressively funnier as you go down.
 
Any MikTeX users here? Could you compile my code from:
3
A: How to get element position in LaTeX?

Martin ScharrerIf you use the remember picture option of tikzpicture the picture origin is written to the auxiliary file (.aux). The used unit is scaled points sp which is 65536sp = 1pt = 1/72.27inch. The origin is IIRC the lower left page corner. You can also save any content in a box register and write its si...

The OP seems to have issues with it.
It works fine for me with TeXLive 2011 under Linux.
 
@AlanMunn The last entry is great!
 
@JosephWright And very efficient, if you've ever seen trees near a beaver dam.
 
@AlanMunn rofl!
 
@AlanMunn Beavers were hunted to extinction in the UK some time ago :-(
 
9:41 PM
@JosephWright Wow, I didn't even know there were beavers in Europe. I thought they were indigenous to North America. (They are the Canadian national animal.)
 
@AlanMunn According to Wikipedia, they are different species in the two continents
 
@JosephWright @AlanMunn: The European one has 8 chromosomes more, FTW!
:-)
 
@MartinScharrer Didn't seem to help them in the UK. :-)
 
@MartinScharrer With MikTeX 2.9 Portable I get an offset for the corner, e.g. Q1A: 9017948, 41890363, 9950287, 42822702.
 
@TorbjørnT Thanks! The OP just commented that he use DVI mode. With pdflatex it works fine for him, too.
 
9:46 PM
@AlanMunn Would it be to TeX-y if we suggest \usepackage{biber}?
@JosephWright I never saw a beaver. :(
 
@PauloCereda That's what biber (used with biblatex) is.
@JosephWright Apparently they are being reintroduced in the UK. (Same wikipedia article.)
 
@PauloCereda Same here: as I said, no native ones in the UK any more
@AlanMunn Yes, it's been in the news a few times. Not universally popular, but more so than the talk of bringing back wolves :-)
 
@JosephWright @AlanMunn They are reintroducing them to the UK at least.
 
@MartinScharrer The baseline seems to be off. Can be the reader? pos file is exactly like yours.
 
@Canageek In a very limited fashion
 
9:50 PM
@JosephWright Yes, and @AlanMunn already pointed that out.
 
@YiannisLazarides It should be that TikZ nodes are used, which use PostScript code in this case, which comes too late. So the origin of the tikzpicture is used for both, I think.
 
@MartinScharrer I am no expert on TikZ, but most probably this is the problem.
 
I want a beaver and a duck.
And a moose too.
 
10:12 PM
@YiannisLazarides Yep, I know updated my answer to use only one coordinate and measure the picture size to get the second one.
@PauloCereda No pony?
 
@MartinScharrer LOL
I had a horse. It's too much work.
 
@PauloCereda I didn't know horses were big in Brazil. My Aunt has a few of them, loves it.
 
10:28 PM
@Canageek They are. :) There are lots of them, mainly in countryside regions. :)
 
@PauloCereda I'll not say my opinions on Alberta out of politness but it is VERY rural. So rural they still have canuak accents.
 
@Canageek I have a strong "R" accent. :)
 
Look at the OP's last comment -- should be closed as "too localized":
1
Q: Nomenclature package error : Lonely \item--perhaps a missing list environment

AnjaI am using the package nomencl to generate a list of abbreviations. However, after a recent MiKTeX 2.9 update (using TeXnicCenter) I keep getting errors for the abbreviation items LaTeX Error: Lonely \item--perhaps a missing list environment. Unfortunately, I cannot figure out an MWE (the MWE...

 
10:44 PM
@lockstep It's a clear solution to the error, even though it was hidden for our eyes, I guess adding this as an answer might help people with the same problem.
 
@PauloCereda Rural?
 
@StefanKottwitz I asked the OP to turn his/her comment into an answer.
 
@Canageek I'd say the accent is regional. But lots of people are from rural areas. :)
 
@lockstep very good
@lockstep Btw. I merged the question you flagged recently
@lockstep I think now I should delete it, after the answer has been safely merged
 
@StefanKottwitz Indeed.
 
10:50 PM
nice history :-) migrated, closed, merged, deleted
3
 
@StefanKottwitz could it be undeleted and reopened too? :D
 
but happens to word-for-word duplicates, which often come because of cross-posting and migration
@PauloCereda sure, if we close, merge and delete the duplicate :-D
 
@PauloCereda Night off with (TeX) friends, after a day of lecturing. Sometimes one has to work. :) I'll tackle the ABC/LilyPond question tomorrow. However tomorrow, at 6pm, the premiere at La Scala will start: Mozart's Don Giovanni, directed by Daniel Barenboim. It will be on Rai5 (and perhaps on other channels). So don't expect I'll be around during it. :)
 
@egreg Welcome back, we miss you! :) Cool, I'll try to watch it here too! :)
@egreg: BTW the Lilypond parser project is still active. :)
 

« first day (401 days earlier)      last day (4524 days later) »