@El'endiaStarman Allah/God has prescribed different forms of worship, for example obeying Allah is worship, and praying/salat is worship. We cannot worship Allah/God in ways that He has not prescribed. The difference between Prayer and worship is prayer falls under worship, but the forms under worship is a part of a whole, anything that is done out of the sincerity of God can be considered Worship. Hope I explained it well Insha'Allah, do you understand?
This is an issue on which scholars have differed.
The vast majority of scholars throughout time claim that music is haraam, and cite the references in the other answers. Islam QA says:
The four Imams, their followers and the vast majority of earlier
Muslim scholars are of the view that mus...
@AlUmmat Many, if not most, of the Psalms are also songs, and you can find Hebrew worship songs on YouTube. I've actually been listening to one of those for the past 40ish minutes.
@goldPseudo Aye, that too. Also, there's a 24-7 worship/prayer organization that uses as part of their inspiration the fact that David hired 400 musicians to worship Yahweh day and night without ceasing.
one can say, with caution, that the Quran is similar but not Music, and hence we do not want anything to replace the love of the Quran, meaning Music has psychological affects, and is very addictive, and so can make one forget Allah really fast, and we do not want that
@AlUmmat See, that's really interesting to me because I usually use music as a way to draw closer to God. There have even been a few times where a secular song has prompted me into a mindstate of worship.
@El'endiaStarman that is Good Alhamdulillah, one must understand that Music and Drawing/paintings/pictures are two of the most disputed things, so I am cautious when answering questions on these
@AlUmmat I've known for several years that drawings/paintings/pictures are mostly not allowed. It has something to do with not making an image of an image of Allah, right?
yes, anasheed, also just to mention, it started out innocently, but those who sing the anasheed is now like rock stars and stuff, and most of the Anasheed have become like rock and role
@El'endiaStarman I think more of imitating the creation of Allah and changing it if I am not mistaken
Aside from Jesus Himself (who certainly wasn't white and blue-eyed), Christians believe much the same thing, except we are more apt to say that God is like a lion, or a lamb, or a young boy, or a warrior king, or fire, or a storm, or etc... - No one thing can describe Him completely, but we will definitely use analogies for whichever attribute we're describing.
Since childhood, I had been hearing many fantasy stories about prophets and other Islamic historical persons. Some examples:
Adam (A) was 60 feet cubit tall (Its possible, but is there any evidence by Quran/Hadis reference)?
Musa (A) fought an enemy who was extremely tall (say 20 times than a n...
that's pretty much why the hadith sciences were invented. people were transmitting ahadith willy-nilly and it was getting extremely difficult to tell which ones were true and which ones were fabricated.
for the sake of a ridiculous parallel, imagine today trying to decide which gospel accounts to canonize, using only the internet, in this modern age of rampant cut-and-paste, arbitrary textual changes, and pseudo-anonymity.
Does being judged by non judaic religious law in a non judaic , pagan country considered to fall into the category of Shituff (Associating partners with God) . As jews belive that only God has the power to frame Laws and accepting or participating in the law system of pagan religious laws is like...
if we can equally do the Makrouh and don't then we are expected to not doing that, but Imam when was born the idols were all around, so although it was better if there was no idol at all but his prostration was also better than not prostrating
2. In Fiqh of Shia we have two things, first praying in the graveyards are Makrouh (again not forbidden and even good if there is no other place to pray therein), but the shrines (except for Baqi3) are not considered as grave yards, they are holy lands
do you think it is Makruh to say prayer at حجل الإسماعیل?
Of course not, although about 70 prophets are buried therein
in a holy land there might be several graves but that would not be called graveyard
Also a comment that also bring into consideration Baqi3 wherein 4 of Imams are buried
We have similarly that praying Allah next to Imams is encouraged, now what if we do something Makrouh (as Makrouh in worshiping) but then something Mustahab with much a greater weight? The answer in Shia Fiqh is that such praying is far good even if it is in the grave yards
However, the worship only include worshiping of Allah not anyone else, they are Wasilah not the target
I do not expect you will approve these, but anyway, his answers to me and as far as I have read about the issues in Shia Fiqh they go well with other issues and Ahadeeth that we have, that is, no contradiction
@owari oh and another question, how can a land be called holy if it was not mentioned as such in the Quran? I mean do the shia have a criteria on how to call a land holy?
@goldPseudo in a graveyard everyone (Muslim) may bury the body of his/her dead relative or friend or etc. but in the holy land people will be buried there only for Tabarrul, like in Mashhad in Iran or in Karbala people are not buried just like the other lands, they want to be buried there to be in much more blessings of Allah
@AlUmmat for example بین قبری و منبری روضة من ریاض الجنة is not in Qur'aan as far as I have read
We have several Ahadeeth that describes some specific lands as the holy lands, like the land between two mountains in Tus, or Karbala, ...
@owari Yes, but is there a criteria for the shia on how to call a land holy? especially if the land hasn't been called such in the Quran, and the sunnah
In Hadeeth we have been given te names of some of them, but I am not sure if there is a Hadeeth or not for that near every pious servant of Allah (the prophets and etc) the land is somewhat holy
In a Hadeeth I read someone was hesitating to go to some mosques, Imam thus asked him: don't you know there is no mosque build unless at least a droplet of blood of a prophet (or a believer) has been fallen there? This was to encourage the man to not hesitate going to some mosques
Also see for example in a Hadeeth holy Mosque of Kuffa is described for its worth near Allah, it was the place of living of Noah, Idris and etc ...
All these lands can be considered holy at least to some extent, not all the lands are the same in the view of Allah
Also in another Hadeeth interpreting Qur'aan verses I saw بارکنا حوله around بیت المقدس is indeed Karbala and if I am right it is also the place that the Virgin Mary went when Qur'aan says مکانا شرقیا
everything is seemingly in Qur'aan but only encrypted
That mosque is not really a mosque, like the belief of a hypocrite not being a true belief. The Hadeeth is talking about true mosques. Something to mention here, like Qur'aan verses have شأن نزول and cannot be used in every arbitrary situations, the Ahadeeth are said to have شأن صدور, that is, Imaam is specifically talking with a specific person regarding some specific situation, it might be or not generalizable to the other cases, but here that Imam himself addresses a general rule
it is understood that only true mosques must be implied. Even in a Hadeeth we have the WC of the mosques are place where the blood of the disbelievers have been fallen, though I am not sure if it was also a general rule, I guess not
@AlUmmat Yes they might include others as well, but any such people know some clarifications about Qur'aan not all of it obviously, but they are the only ones who know all about Qur'aan and thus are most reliable in interpretation of Qur'aan
This one is I think owned by Sheikh Yusuf Al Qardawi
At least, that's what the wiki page says about it.
Back in the old days, it used to have a lot of content in English. But suddenly everything disappeared. I dont know what happened. It's Wikipedia page still says that it's a bilingual website, publishing stuff in Arabic and English.
Also, if I recall correctly, I think there was one person that we suspended for a week, and after that period, his participation on the site was much better.
Ironically, when you do have a powerful mod hammer in your hands, you're a lot more careful and picky about how and when you use it.
@Noah No thanks, I'd rather not have to face a Hammer Bros...
More seriously, I don't want a Hammer War either 'cause my fellow mods would then turn their hammers on you.
A bit more seriously, I once considered deleting Jeff Atwood's account from C.SE. Needless to say, I never actually followed through with it, but I was definitely curious.
They do suck at certain things, specially when you pop over to the ServerFault chatroom and ask for live support. Everyone will start screaming at you, THIS PLACE IS NOT FOR LIVE SUPPORT.
@goldPseudo assalaamalaikum , Asking question does generate learning , even the Quran asks questions to promote learning and the Sahabas too. Hadith of Not asking many questions is about unncessary questions like say "how many times to do hajj"
Wanted to know how the word "Jew" or "Yehudim" came to be used for people following prophet Moshe in the Torah, did he coin the term and does it bear a geographic relevance? And if Moshe did not call himself a Jew then what he described himself and his followers in the Torah?
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@AlUmmat, I added the references, that's not enough? There are not one or two such Ahadeeth seemingly saying almost the same thing, and that's what Shia Ahadeeh say as well.
@I have read Bukhari's mentioning the issue, although it only passes over the details and say Imam Ali was sad for not being given a share in his rulership but he knew Abu Bakr was better than him, that's like falling in Love in Dunya and that's far from the personality of Imam Ali, you don't agree?
for two reasons:
1. The Shia Hadeeth have words that would be considered as leading edge words to this website and users and would cause in nothing but disasters
2. It is interesting to know that even some Sunni scholars have admitted in what the Shia scholars believe in, isn't it?
If Shia scholars were saying such they were accused for being rude at the first two Caliphs but now these are the ideas of the Sunni scholars
@owari yes, there is only one Hadith in there that is authentic, but the rest, the story of her rib breaking, the threat of burning, and attack on the house are all inauthentic
-1: We expect posts to be clearly focussed so that the actual answer is apparent. I can't even tell how much (if any) of this post is even relevant to the question asked. — goldPseudo8 mins ago
@owari i posit that you have received a lot of downvotes less for the content of your posts than for the fact that they're typically too long and rambling to be useful.
I dont know what happened to him, but I think you have the rights to express your views here on the site. Doesn't matter if they are Shia or Sunni- as long as mutual respect is taken into consideration.
@Noah @owari we are not going against this, but Owari isn't giving a all shia perspective in his answer, He is also adding inauthentic Ahadith not frm the shia books
@goldPseudo is it equal that a mother blame her son or a stranger blame again her son?
@goldPseudo No indeed, I communicated with Saber not to post such topics to this website, as it would trouble the calm sea here if we really want to answer them fron our firm perspective
TO bring you an example we know the first three Caliphs like the Paul in the Christianity, denying them for the Sunni brothers may imply denying Islam!
I think one thing should be cleared up: Everything, Sunni or Shia, should be authentic. Since we preach the religion of Allah in this forum, I think we should pay more attention to the content that we publish. Internet is a big jumble so we have to be careful where we copy stuff from.
@goldPseudo this website is distinguished from its other alike of it for being calm and in peace, such issues will activate more the biased people on two sides and you would only watch the war at the fronts, the truth would be lost in that war
@owari What happened to Ahmadi was he was not able to share constructively. Do you believe that one should teach yes, but also teach and speak with wisdom?
@owari of course it is. why don't you at least quote a shia book then and at least try to demonstrate that? quoting "sunni resources" that are not even considered authentic by sunnis is the opposite of useful.
Well, ok, I choose to yield, I will then put the Shia Ahadeeth although I preferred not to. Hope that it does nothing in destroying the union of the Muslims.
Let me think, however, either to only delete my answer or also to put our own Hadeeth regarding that issue
Now meanwhile, what do you think about the update I have put in that Hadeeth? Doesn't that mean Ijmaa3 of the Ummah? Some scholars from both Sects agree upon the same story, why the others do not rely on this coincidence?
I dont want to take sides here. All I am saying is that we shouldn't misquote things. @owari I think @goldPseudo is right about that. How would you feel if someone copied something from an unreliable Shia source and submitted it as something authentic?
@owari I have not heard of any sunni scholar agreeing upon this story, either teh scholar was a Mu'tazili or from the Rawfidh, or sayings of scholars like Ibn Tamyyah's were taken out of context
This is an issue on which scholars have differed.
The vast majority of scholars throughout time claim that music is haraam, and cite the references in the other answers. Islam QA says:
The four Imams, their followers and the vast majority of earlier
Muslim scholars are of the view that mus...
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