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i'm in no hurry to undelete it right now because, as you say, the question is poorly formulated. it's clearly on the attack rather than something we want other users to emulate.

no clue why people vote how they do. it's very subjective.

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Q: Why do you cast downvotes on answers?

This is a question which started off with a comment, then turned into an answer, and now it's a question in its own right (as suggested by Jeff). I'm not sure where it could go from here :) It's obvious that different people cast downvotes for different reasons. (Upvotes are less controversial, ...

Medi1Saif

I did a small effort and voted to undelete

wow a post with so much answers

Mabye twice as much as in the most "active" post on ISE :(

goldPseudo

well, it's hardly fair to compare SO and MSE to...anything, really.

Medi1Saif

6:37 AM

I know

goldPseudo

and that post is old enough from back when MSE was still MSO, iirc.

Medi1Saif

but as we are recommended to ask Allah for the best "parts" of Jannah

we should also have high aims

;)

I think yesterday i've taken a look at the anlytics

goldPseudo

oh, my aims have been high since the beginning.

that's why so many people here hate me :p

Medi1Saif

and one could say we have an accepted answer rate of 1/day this year

while the downvote rate is much higher

And of course the upvote is higher

ups

i mean average instead of rate of course :S

goldPseudo

our post count and votes have been relatively constant for a while.

our traffic is still going up every year tho.

voting always tends to spike and lull depending on which users are active at any given time.

Medi1Saif

6:44 AM

i agree but this mean we need some kind of "constructive" and "active" users

goldPseudo

yep.

we've got a good crop right now, actually. just a matter of keeping everyone interested enough to stick around.

Medi1Saif

I mean I'm quite sure that I'll delete my answer of G. Bach's question about Allah's justice and Mercy once I find there's a better answer there.

goldPseudo

like i was saying the other day, i haven't seen the site this healthy for years.

Medi1Saif

but I get the feeling that it gets a more and more sunni tendency

goldPseudo

the majority of muslims are sunni, so that's to be expected.

what's important is that non-majority perspectives don't get harassed and/or attacked just for being different.

Medi1Saif

6:47 AM

these days

I know but I'm not seeing much shi'a brothers activity

goldPseudo

and, relatedly, for non-majority perspectives to not come in loaded for bear and treating everything as a hostile interaction.

it's all about treating others with respect, whether you agree with them or not.

which is why it's so important to deal with hostile and disrespectful posts as they show up.

Medi1Saif

agreed

goldPseudo

A: SE Islam is not really Pluralistic

Quranists a.k.a "God Alone followers" have no place in SE Islam. Okay. And what are you doing about it? Because your current strategy of "Yell at everyone who disagrees with me" doesn't seem to be working. It is common for minorities here to claim sectarian bias when their posts are ill-rec...

(not meant to target Qur'anists there, since I've seen the exact same scenario unfold with pretty much every non-mainstream perspective at one point or another)

Medi1Saif

i've read your post and was about to answer but unfortunatly cerberus account was deleted ...

And I still feel like answering, but due to some disputes and discussions with that guy I'm not sure if that would be a good idea.

I've got the same impression he was attacking about everybody

which is not constructive at all

this is the way one gets downvotes and shouldn't wonder because of we are asked to "be nice"

goldPseudo

the biggest problem (at least from a moderator perspective) with situations like that is that it's near impossible to tell if it is targeted downvotes or not.

if a lot of obviously good posts get downvoted, or a lot of obviously bad posts get upvoted, that's something we can look into.

we've dealt with such cases in the past. but when posts with obvious problems get downvotes, there's not really any way to argue that that's anything more than "system working as intended"

even if it is hostile voting.

like i say in that post: the system works if you let it. but when people insist on fighting it, it doesn't end well for anyone.

Medi1Saif

7:05 AM

yeah

but if a person don't want to understand ... that's the problem!

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