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FallenAngelEyes

7:00 PM

I just wanted to fuck people up with my Flak Cannon, is that so much to ask!?

robjb

lol flak was awesome in UT3 :o

imo

FallenAngelEyes

@robjb It was! Not so much when there's no one to play with :P

robjb

Ironic -- when UT2004 came out, people complained it wasn't enough like UT

Then by the time UT3 was released, everyone changed their minds.

FallenAngelEyes

They added that whole... titan mode thing or whatever later on, but it still wasn't enough to keep the online going

Lazers

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Q: Is it possible to finish the main quest and stay neutral in Skyrim's Civil War?

I'm having a hard time deciding whether I want to support the Imperial Legion or the rebel Stormcloaks in Skyrim. They both seem to be right in some ways and obnoxious in others. In the meantime, I'm studying with the Greybeards and pursuing that part of the game. My problem is that I want to fi...

robjb

7:02 PM

I thought the whole vehicle game modes were silly anyhow, an attempt to revive a dying style of game

FallenAngelEyes

@robjb I liked Onslaught the best I think

Powerlord

@FallenAngelEyes Teeeaaaammmm foooorrrrrttttresss 2222222.... :P

FallenAngelEyes

@Powerlord That doesn't have a co-op campaign mode

Powerlord

@FallenAngelEyes Oh, campaign?

robjb

@FallenAngelEyes It was an attempt to bring new players into the game, and it worked -- most casual players enjoyed it

FallenAngelEyes

7:03 PM

Yar

Ronan Forman

No one here happens to have after effects do they?

Powerlord

Geeeeaaaarrrrrssss oooofffff Wwwwaaaarrrrr (actually I've never played this series)

agent86

@Powerlord Leeeffft Foooourrrr Deeeaaaad

FallenAngelEyes

@Powerlord We did try it!

But we got a couple hours into it and just... didn't care that much anymore

Powerlord

@agent86 That came out in 2009, two or so years after UT3.

agent86

7:04 PM

@Powerlord ooooooohhhh kaaaaay

robjb

sad

Powerlord

Has it really been only a year since L4D2 came out? It feels like longer.

FallenAngelEyes

RAWR MANLY SPACE MARINES IN POWER ARMOR GRAAAAAAAAHHHHH

badp

I liked the "campaign" mission in the UT04 demo

robjb

UT4 better revive the series

FallenAngelEyes

7:05 PM

Also the fact that we both prefer shooters on PC

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes I HAVE A CHAINSAW ON MY GUN

I BET YOUR MOM IS A CLASSY LADY

FallenAngelEyes

@robjb There's going to be a UT4?

badp

The one that involved jumping across multiple trains capturing control points in TF2 A/D style

Wipqozn

@robjb there coming out with a UT4?

robjb

@FallenAngelEyes Not positive, but Epic has said they will eventually go back to the Unreal IP

agent86

7:05 PM

@badp that was a cool demo level. I played the shit out of that.

Wipqozn

I thought the UT series was abandoned

badp

@agent86 Me too.

robjb

It's abandoned for the time being

Powerlord

@badp Is it sad that I thought you were talking about a TF2 map? And I was about to say "I thought that one had intel briefcases?"

FallenAngelEyes

@robjb I'm assuming this is when Gears stops being profitable. Which will probably be never.

robjb

7:06 PM

@FallenAngelEyes Next generation of consoles they will probably release another Unreal game to promote UE4 :P

badp

@Powerlord It is the same thing as a TF2 A/D map.

robjb

Not necessarily UT though -- they only specified an "Unreal" game

badp

I'll be damned if I remember the map name to look it up on youtube

Powerlord

Of course, the map I was thinking of isn't trains, but some other vehicles in the desert. If you fall off, you die. :D

agent86

@Powerlord CONVOY

badp

7:07 PM

@Powerlord Well yes.

FallenAngelEyes

@robjb True. Whatever complaints I may have about the quality of their gameplay and story, their engines are usually great.

Powerlord

@agent86 YES, that's it!

agent86

the almighty map of greatness of which there is only one and it is awesome.

badp

@agent86 yes!

►

robjb

Still, the sad thing is that it has dropped from their flagship game

To a giant technology demo for the engine

agent86

7:07 PM

the UT demo map was a bit more complex, more like if all the parts of dustbowl were one map

robjb

=> less emphasis on gameplay.

FallenAngelEyes

@robjb yeah :/

robjb

Either way, they said they will eventually produce another, so we'll see.

Just keep CliffyB off of it plz.

He hasn't made a map worth playing since GOTY

FallenAngelEyes

Thanks Gaming, I have completely failed to do anything productive today and have spent all day chatting and flagging and refreshing Meta.

badp

@agent86 Dustbowl is six points in one map. TF2 needs to give some set up time for defensive engies though.

agent86

7:09 PM

@badp yeah. that's kind of what I was trying to say. The continuity was better on the UT map, but there's a lot less 'strategy' and a lot more RUN FORWARD AND SHOOT AT CRAP.

badp

Even on payload, when you do have setup time, as an engie you might end up only defending every other point

David B

there's still time left!

agent86

ooh, dredmor is $2.50

David B

(attempts to be do one productive thing)

agent86

buybuybuybuybuy

FallenAngelEyes

7:10 PM

I should probably actually like, eat something now.

robjb

Ugh, remember when youtube had a flag that would stream your video at a higher quality?

agent86

anybody played dreadmor? is it good?

FallenAngelEyes

@robjb Yeeeep

agent86

I've played a shitton of roguelikes, so it's got that going for it for me.

Wipqozn

@robjb Are any of the UT games still actively played online?

robjb

7:11 PM

A few of my vids are now completely unviewable without that flag

@Wipqozn UT2004 is still quite a bit more active than UT3, can usually find games -- but I wouldn't call it "active" relative to other games.

FallenAngelEyes

@robjb I got the steelcase edition for UT3 even :(

robjb

@FallenAngelEyes me too :/

It was fun for a year before it died

►

Not very clear at all :/

Wipqozn

@robjb Yeah it was. Although now I'm curious what game I confused it with earlier...

FallenAngelEyes

@robjb ouch, artifacty

robjb

Yea, didn't use to be like that

FallenAngelEyes

7:14 PM

That sucks :/

A friend of mine actually worked on Unreal II

he is not proud of this fact, lol

robjb

Ha

Unreal II was just OK

@Wipqozn Maybe you didn't confuse it with another game, they did remove a bunch of stuff that was in UT2004

FallenAngelEyes

anywho, dinnertime, later all

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes I used to work with the guy who was responsible for the T2 arcade game (the one with the SMGs mounted on it) he had one in his garage. Oh, fun times...

Wipqozn

@robjb Then I may be thinking of the right game. It's been quite a few years.

robjb

Probably. They effectively split the UT community into two factions with UT2004, and were trying to appeal to the older faction with UT3.

Kinda screwed themselves, now no matter what they release next, one faction is going to be pissed Epic didn't remake their game.

Powerlord

7:17 PM

@badp Badwater is especially bad about that.

2004 was going to piss people off either way, being that close on the heels of 2003.

badp

@Powerlord I can only ever defend the second point on Barnblitz if I give up on the first

Powerlord

@badp Part of that is because BarnBlitz forces the train to stop right after point A, so BLU might as well just push forward to point 2 to stop you from doing anything there.

agent86

Oh man, I did not know this was out! store.steampowered.com/app/48240

I am a huge fan of the Anno series.

here's hoping there's a good deal on it now or at christmas.

badp

Actually I find that giving up on the first point is generally a good idea, because a level 3 everything nest on the 2nd point can be tough to bring down

Powerlord

As far as I can tell, the train turntable goes as soon as the cart reaches it and continues moving even if everyone leaves the cart.

badp

7:20 PM

yes, like all other turntables

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 Me too! I played the 2070 demo at Gamescom (in German)

I think it'd be a great game to ask questions about here

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes high five! was it good?

I'm generally too cheap to buy games right when they come out.

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 I don't speak German so uh... But the menu system was intuitive enough and the same enough that I could figure out what I needed to be doing

agent86

this year I've bought MW3 and SR3 new, and that's an unusual quantity of new games for me.

FallenAngelEyes

It doesn't seem to have strayed too far from 1404's formula, which I view as a good thing

agent86

7:21 PM

@FallenAngelEyes mmm, indeed. Well, I'm psyched then

Wipqozn

@agent86 I need to go back and play Anno 1404. I didn't play it much at all, just didn't have time :/

badp

I wonder why those assault maps haven't been ported to TF2

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 I wanted the neat CE that came with little solar toys but that was only available in Germany :(

badp

(can you even have a map with six control points in the same stage?)

FallenAngelEyes

I haven't played the older games, but 1404 is awesome and I love it

agent86

7:23 PM

@Wipqozn I tend to play those games until I beat the campaign, and then I get kinda bored with it.

badp

well you could rape them into payload, but...

FallenAngelEyes

there's just something so satisfying about setting up a nicely efficient production chain that makes you a profit :D

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes Which one was Dawn of Discovery in the US? was that 1404?

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 Yes

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes mmmm, efficiency and automation. drools

Wipqozn

7:24 PM

When I have time, I'll need to go back to anno 1404. I'd like to play that a lot more before playing another in the series.

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 Also 2070 allows underwater buildings

agent86

One of my bucket list goals is to write a game, and I want to make something along those lines, probably graphics like DF. but I'm an AI expert, so the AI in most of these games makes me want to hurt someone.

Wipqozn

@FallenAngelEyes oh wow, that's pretty nifty.

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes whatisthisidonteven

FallenAngelEyes

Considering how beautiful the engine is, I'm looking forward to designing some cool stuff :D

agent86

7:24 PM

one of the things that drives me crazy is trying to fit all the buildings in the irregularly shaped islands

I always get done and go "argh, if I moved everything over ONE block this way, I could fit another farm :/"

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 Oh man I hate that too

Also fitting things on Norias >:(

(also manually refilling Norias...)

Lazers

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Q: Why is the TVR Cerbera Speed 12 the most used car in drifting?

I'm going to start to make the drift events, and I noticed that all the weeks the most used car is TVR Cerbera Speed 12. Is for something special? Because is easy to use? Is really the best car for drift?

gran-turismo-5

Wipqozn

oh, yahtzee reviewed modern warfare 3. This should be amusing.

agent86

doesn't look like the specs for the game are all that rough either, it might work on my laptop

FallenAngelEyes

Whenever I get it and whenever you get it, we should try multiplayer :D I never had a chance to try it with Venice

agent86

7:26 PM

@FallenAngelEyes hah, deal. Although being in NL you're probably on a completely diff. schedule than I am

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 6 hours ahead of EST. It makes gaming with friends and guildmates a bitch.

If you're in PST, I'll probably never see you, ever. I've found 9 hours difference seems to be just enough to completely miss each other all the time if either of you work or have school.

Anywho, really food now! Glad to find another Anno fan :D

agent86

okay! go! eat! I! should! work!

Powerlord

@badp No idea, I know 7 is the max that a map can have.

badp

@Powerlord Between all stages?

Powerlord

@badp Yup.

Actually, iirc it was 6 until Valve bumped it up by one when they created Gold Rush.

badp

7:31 PM

Hoodoo has 7 too right?

Powerlord

@badp I don't remember how many points the final part of Hoodoo has, because you so rarely see it.

badp

Yeah, the fourth point is so bad

basically spy cap is the ONLY way to push the cart all the way in

Powerlord

@badp The second point is really bad, too.

Although, now that I think about it, I think Hoodoo stage 3 only has 2 points.

badp

@Powerlord The second point is no harder than Dustbowl 6th

or Dustbowl 4th

Powerlord

When you capture the first point, at the far end of the track, all the doors in the middle area open up.

Arda Xi

7:33 PM

I love Skyrim. Kill enemy with fire, revive enemy, kill enemy again.

badp

but the only way Hoodoo 4th is better than Dustbowl 6th is because you can spy cap.

Grace Note

badp

It's an absolute nightmare though. If your engineers don't know what they're doing you can just kill time spycrabbing around.

Arda Xi

@GraceNote Exactly. Unfortunately, if you kill a zombie it's reduced to an ash pile.

Grace Note

So you can only revive enemies as zombies?

agent86

7:36 PM

Anyone have Orcs Must Die? Worth getting?

Arda Xi

@GraceNote I don't know any other spells to do it at any rate.

Grace Note

Yet, I s'pose?

badp

Clearly we need a question about it

"How do I murder enemies over and over again?"

agent86

@badp murder

badp

or rather "How can I murder somebody three times?"

Arda Xi

7:38 PM

@GraceNote I don't know. It seemed like a feature.

Grace Note

@badp I was more thinking "How many times am I able to murder the same person?"

David B

save, kill, load, kill, load, kill. tada

badp

@DavidB bah

Arda Xi

@GraceNote Fine, I'll ask it in a moment. mutters something about cruel, cruel people

Grace Note

That's not really murdering the same person multiple times as much as it is murdering the same person in multiple timelines.

David B

7:39 PM

that's how I get killed multiple times, at any rate

user30

I have a creeper at my door.

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Hey, to my credit, you'll be the one listed on the Wall of Murderers.

user30

bugger.

Martin Sojka

@ThomasMcDonald A bit late for Halloween ...

Ullallulloo

@agent86 I like it.

Aeo

7:43 PM

Oh... Oh, no... Steam is having an autumn sale? Guess it's time for offline mode... Shield the credit cards!

agent86

@Ullallulloo what's good about it?

user30

@Aeo :|

user30

TDU 2 for £3.74? buying that

Wipqozn

Also, I'm watching through Dragonball Z Kai, so I'm super cool.

Ullallulloo

I don't know...
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/orcs-must-die!

agent86

7:48 PM

@Ullallulloo psh. some help YOU are. No christmas card for you.

Ullallulloo

@agent86 :(

badp

@agent86 It's a over-the-shoulder tower defense game

Lazers

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Q: How many times can I murder someone?

I love magic. I love burning people. Recently, I also learnt how to bring them back to life. I'm using the Raise Undead spell to raise enemies I've killed already, not mainly to aid me in battle, but just so I can kill them again. This provides a lot of experience in spell-casting. However, aft...

skyrim

badp

Another attempt to get you on the field should your defenses fail to do their work

agent86

@badp I figured that much out. Was just trying to get people's opinions on it.

I'll dig around a bit and see if I feel like biting.

badp

7:50 PM

I dunno, I think it can be fun. There's a demo: play it.

agent86

@badp Unlikely that I will have time prior to the close of the sale to download and engage in any sort of play, what with family coming into town. I'll probably just pass, there's likely to be another sale soon enough and lord knows I have enough games.

Ullallulloo

It's well made, but it mostly depends on whether or not you like the genre.

badp

@agent86 Try let's play videos then

agent86

I recently engaged in "Trenched" and enjoyed it pretty well. Not sure if I'm burned out on the genre or not though.

@badp I know how to find data on a game from people I don't know; I asked here because I was looking for personal opinions. I think I got a good cross section from here and others. Thanks though!

badp

sorry

agent86

7:55 PM

not a problem, seriously, you're trying to help. I don't mind.

apologies if my response was off-putting, that wasn't my intent.

Grace Note

@Lazers Murderers are just coming out of the woodwork in that question's comments...

2

Fabian

@GraceNote Remember, you are surrounded

Ullallulloo

@GraceNote Anyone that doesn't love murder is inhuman.

user30

oh please don't do this to me steam

user30

ಠ_ಠ

Wipqozn

8:11 PM

@GraceNote a growing list of them...

Lazers

0

Q: world of warcraft trial link appeared in my account management but doesn't do anything

Before, if you didn't have latest WoW expansion there would be a ittle panel with options such buying expansion or trying a trial of it for 10 days inside your account. Now it's gone. All I see is this Diablo 3 offer. But a "Free trial" link appeared in the list of things you can do with your a...

world-of-warcraft

0

Q: Direct2Play Battlefield 3 for cheap?

I was wondering if anyone knew if this was legit? BF3 is supposedly being sold for $30 here.

pc battlefield-3

0

Q: Are there Tools which help to develop aiming capabilities?

I've just bought a gaming mouse, and had to disable the acceleration (windows settings) for decent movement. My question is, are there any tools available where I can find optimal settings (dpi)? I thought about something where I would have to move to targets like little boxes, circles or some...

mouse mouse-aiming

Wipqozn

inb4 the comment thread just becomes a huge list of "I miss it too..."

Grace Note

I'm just waiting for someone to go "AND MY AXE!"

agent86

getting a little in-jokey and meta in there :P

Wipqozn

@GraceNote I think you just did

Grace Note

8:14 PM

Stack Exchange

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Q: Which side of the screen should a user HUD be on?

I'm trying to come up with the UI for a game I'm creating for the iPhone/iPad. The game is based off another online game form years ago, and they had their HUD on the left side of the screen. I'm trying to make my game look as different from the original as possible, so I was trying to see if mo...

layout iphone games

Ronan Forman

8:40 PM

Hi @GnomeSlice!

agent86

@Lazers gah, that direct2play site is setting off my scam detector.

agent86

8:54 PM

hate it when this happens

more often to me, I end up with the GTA syndrome, where I'm looking at other people's cars and going "why don't I just get out and jack them?"

The Stack Exchange Blog

9:05 PM

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Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice Can you go into your after effects effects folder (in program files) and send me all the effects that begin with 'CC'?

RedriderX

Hey all

I know the steam fall sale started, but does anyone know of any highlights?

excuse me, autumn sale

Wipqozn

@RedriderX portal 2 is a must buy if you don't already have it

RedriderX

@Wipqozn Well I had that for a while, but ya a good deal.

Ullallulloo

@Wipqozn I'm hoping to get that. My brothers and I could get three copies for a dollar under the price for one.

RedriderX

9:16 PM

@Wipqozn except for the fact that they were giving it away a few months back.

Wipqozn

@RedriderX They were?

Ullallulloo

That was the first Portal.

RedriderX

@Ullallulloo oh yeah, my bad

Powerlord

@RedriderX Yeah, pretty sure the only time they gave away copies of Portal 2 was if you got all the golden potatoes in the Potato Sack Pack (Indie Bundle).

Yeesh, again with a bajilliion edits to get that right

Wipqozn

The Last Remnant is on sale as well

never played it myself, but I've heard good things

RedriderX

9:19 PM

just looking at the daily deals, what is the Dejobaan Complete Pack ?

Wipqozn

@RedriderX click it and see

RedriderX

it seems... weird

Wipqozn

IT is.

Fallout 3 and New Vegas are on sale as well

Lazers

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Q: What is the Booklet behind the case of BioShock 2?

I saw a shrink-wrapped, retail copy of BioShock 2 for PC at the store recently and there appeared to be some sort of booklet in the shrink-wrap behind the case. What is that booklet? Is it the manual? Is it some sort of extra art booklet? Why is it not inside the case?