The Water Cooler

12:12 AM

@enderland who cares any more. I give up on trying to keep this place working... Instead i think ill enjoy the ride down!

enderland

?

Dawny33

1:48 AM

As a quick feedback on that issue - few months after it got all resolved and steeled down - this above was (and is) the best approach! Do not ever falsely assume that you might "buddy up" with your management, that you might "express yourself" or anything like that! Think from a professional point of view: do you job and keep the private mess away from the work place. If you are asked about it directly, try your best to stay away from mixing yourself in. — GeekSince1982 5 hours ago

^_^

enderland

2:19 AM

@Dawny33 it's amazing how nice it feels to make an impact like that :-)

Pequod

8:56 AM

Yes always fall in line and never show personality!

Lilienthal

9:26 AM

workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/security

Anyone know if this tag (security) is useful?

There's also job-security which only has a handful of questions.

Pequod

yes i think it is

Lilienthal

A few of the security ones should be moved to job-security, a fair few should probably be tagged privacy instead. I think the tag itself might be useful but it needs a definition and probably a warning not to confuse it with job-security.

Rory Alsop

@Lilienthal I think, reading across those questions, that simplifying as you suggest is best, but the tag should remain. I reviewed them just to see if any would be appropriate over on Security.SE, but sadly not.

Dawny33

@Lilienthal I see that most of the background check documents related questions are tagged with security

Pequod

I'm loving the debate. Great minds battling it out. And I've got a front row seat.

Dawny33

9:36 AM

So, maybe security != job-security

Lilienthal

@Dawny33 Yeah those should definitely be retagged imo.

Dawny33

Yeah, and you're right. Most of them would go good with the [tag:privacy] tag!

Would start cleaning up after work [An Indian holiday tmrw] :D

Lilienthal

/me looks it up

@Dawny33 Vasant Panchami?

Dawny33

yeah! Looks like you've already started the cleanup task.

Maybe your fan here can help. Eh @Pequod? :P

Lilienthal

Please don't encourage him.

:)

Man, there are a lot of Hindu holidays listed. I'm only really familiar with Ghanesh Chaturthi and Diwali.

Dawny33

9:51 AM

And we celebrate some of em better than a World Cup :D

Need help in conjuring up a nice wiki for this tag: privacy

Pequod

I think @Lilienthal loves the bants really. What a cutie

Lilienthal

@Dawny33 Added something basic.

Dawny33

Yeah, that looks good enough!

Lilienthal

@Dawny33 That should be my slogan if I ever run for moderator: "Lilienthal: Good Enough - Vote Adequacy"

Pequod

10:10 AM

#lifegoals

Dawny33

11:05 AM

Do you guys think we need to have clean up events once in a while, like some other sites do?

Lilienthal

11:42 AM

@Dawny33

9

Q: Broken Windows Review #5

Welcome to a restart of the Broken Windows Review project. These posts are intended to simplify the cleanup of closed questions. By listing a number of such questions in a single meta thread, users can quickly find questions that are in need of improvement, reopening or deletion. See this post fo...

Comment threads on that pointed out that we have 25% closed questions so I'm unsure of the format for future reviews

This one just lasted way too long, caused way too much debate and was entirely too much effort for few results imo.

I'm thinking just simplifying part of the template, reducing the "debate this below" angle and linking vastly more questions.

Like "all closed ones from Sep 2015" for instance and only providing links.

If people feel a question is worth saving they can start a comment thread in an answer, otherwise it'd just serve as a collection of easy links to questions that need delete votes.

The main problem is that there is no delete vote queue from what I can tell.

Huh

Apparently there IS actually a page for it:

workplace.stackexchange.com/…

But annoyingly it doesn't really distinguish questions and answers

Pequod

12:19 PM

-3

Q: Should I end my emails with "Thanks", or leave it be?

I have a habit of ending all my emails like so : Thanks, Adel But the default setting is that every email automatically says "Regards," at the bottom. Is the "Thanks" unnecessary in that case? Or is it a good add-on to include? Many of my colleagues would only start off with a "hi" and don'...

email

More thought provoking stuff

We need our best on this

enderland

12:47 PM

@Pequod if your goal is to make fun of other users let me be perfectly clear - that attitude is not welcome here. It seems rather ironic to be mocking other people for their inability to grasp "common sense" questions but demonstrating you seem unable to grasp basic common sense in actual interpersonal interactions yourself. — enderland ♦ Feb 2 at 17:42

2

Lilienthal

+1 @enderland

Wow @ his deleted answer.

Pequod

1:30 PM

Funny innit

What is funny, is how you don't draw a line where genuine queries cross into absurdity. Seems anything goes on this SE. Did you ever solve the conundrum of which ways pens should stand up?

Is there a commonsense.stackexchange

enderland

1:46 PM

no one's forcing you to be here, so far nearly all your contributions have been to mock this community...

Pequod

Merely highlighting my concerns in the appropriate channels, meta and chatroom. Y'all have let this place slip

It should be more than a pretentious version of Ask Reddit

enderland

I find it hard to take someone calling a site pretentious serious when one of their first actions was to post a post mocking and insulting users of the site

Pequod

Only when some of the ridiculous questions get detailed answers in the hope that they add to the posters reputation

Dat upvote

enderland

So go to reddit then?

Pequod

Seems like I already am ;)

enderland

1:52 PM

I would encourage you to read through the Be Nice policy that Stack Exchange has, if you intend to spend more time here

4

Pequod

Bae I'm like Trump I'm here to bring sweeping change

enderland

2:04 PM

stop calling me bae

Pequod

2:16 PM

Rude

Lilienthal

Frankly @Pequod, if you really want to be taken seriously I suggest you cut out all the inane netspeak and condescension. You seem to be on the fast-track to a chat ban and possibly an account suspension if you continue your disruptive behaviour.

4

I just really don't get why you're choosing to spend time here. Do you think you're trolling or something?

The only reason I haven't added you to my ignore list is that I want to make sure you don't scare away newbies and so that I'm around to flag you if/when you finally crack completely.

AndreiROM

2:33 PM

what an "interesting" conversation to walk in on

how is everyone? :)

Dawny33

Hey @AndreiROM We're good.

Hpw're the elections going at the WB community?

AndreiROM

some unexpected results

the top 3 candidates are solid, but there's a bit of instability for number 4, and everyone from there to #12 are solid candidates

so we'll just have to see

Dawny33

Monica'll make a nice mod. But, not really sure about the WB community.

I just have enough rep to vote there :D

Pequod

If you find my behaviour disruptive @Lilienthal then I'm afraid it's only applied to the four people that congregate this apparently off-topic-but-not-really chatroom. If that's not enough to warrant a ban (it isn't) then I'll be sure to message you first when I "crack" and start telling newbies that it doesn't matter if you address your boss with a "hi" or a "hello" and downvote the 1500 word essay one of you supplied as an answer

Dawny33

@Pequod What post are you talking about? (I think I've missed something) :)

Pequod

2:46 PM

Just highlighting a likely post that would contribute to this farce

AndreiROM

I love a good show

enderland

@Pequod harassing people and a community is not acceptable on SE anywhere, period.

AndreiROM

I joined SE because of Worldbuilding, but I've found my reputation grow much more quickly on Workplace

I think a lot of the answers provided here are very valuable

I wish I knew about this site back when I was a fresh graduate

would have saved me some embarrassment

Pequod

My issue lies with the questions that don't require an answer, and why "get a grip" isn't allowed as a valid answer

AndreiROM

well, in a way it is

you vote to close the question

and yes, I agree that some questions are just asked by people looking for validation, not because they actually want advice

like that one question yesterday about calling child services on her coworkers

i hope to God i never work with someone like that

Lilienthal

2:50 PM

Common sense is surprisingly uncommon @Pequod.

Something you are apparently all too eager to demonstrate.

It's obvious to most of us here that you're really not in the right place here.

You just don't seem to realize it yourself.

bilbo_pingouin

@Dawny33 Monica is/was a pro-tem mod on Worldbuilding so far. And I'm pretty sure she'll be elected to the team.

Pequod

I think I'm where I need to be bae. The times they are a changin

AndreiROM

lol

what a character you are, pequod

Pequod

If I'm ridiculing the people here, then what's @Lilienthal doing with his thinly veiled insults at me? Broski needs to settle down

Dawny33

3:06 PM

@Pequod That's a very rude comment, my friend! Pl apologize her :)

Monica Cellio

@Pequod if you can't be polite then please leave. Name-calling and sniping at other users is not appropriate. Consider this a formal warning.

7

Lilienthal

I'm not throwing out insults @Pequod, I'm trying to call you out on your behaviour.

Monica Cellio

3:29 PM

@AndreiROM I agree. Sure we get some questions that are "out there" sometimes (what community doesn't?), but even if the OP has a really misguided idea, a good answer can set that straight and be useful for others. Like that question yesterday about documenting your work during your notice period -- the OP clearly didn't understand ownership and corporate interests, and answers addressed that. People might not like his attitude but that doesn't make the question inappropriate.

enderland

26

A: No such thing as a stupid question

Keep in mind what is common sense to you might not be to other people. There are plenty of situations on here that a lot of people look at and think, "duh, do X" but if it was that obvious to everyone, the person asking wouldn't have had to ask it.

AndreiROM

@enderland - is your username inspired by the Orson Scott Card novel?

enderland

@AndreiROM indeed it is :-)

Pequod

3:47 PM

That ban really helped me in finding all those times I've name-called. Thanks

AndreiROM

@enderland - I think I first read it when I was 12 or 13. Still one of my favorite books

@pequod - have you been banned from the main site?

Pequod

Nope

Only questioning people off the main site seems to get me in trouble

AndreiROM

so what's going on with you?

Masked Man

@Pequod You have been putting way too much effort into your crusade against the so-called poor questions. It is not that I disagree with your sentiment per se, but you seriously are overdoing it.

2

Pequod

You either get banned a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a moderator

ArtOfCode

3:53 PM

Or, you know, you could just get banned.

3

AndreiROM

@Pequod - that's actually pretty funny

not sure it's actually true, but funny none the less

Pequod

I'm not sure I could cope @ArtOfCode

AndreiROM

@Pequod - I'm trying to understand what sparked the animosity between yourself and monica/lilienthal/enderland etc

care to comment?

ArtOfCode

That's probably not a good idea

commenting leads to arguing

arguing leads to more animosity

animosity leads to insults

everyone goes home unhappy

Pequod

Anger leads to hate

AndreiROM

3:58 PM

i was just trying to understand, since the conversation takes place over several days and is difficult to piece together

Pequod

Hate leads to suffering

AndreiROM

but I see your point

idk, I'm partial to the Sith creed myself

Pequod

I subscribe to one point of view, they subscribe to another

enderland

-9

Q: Some questions surely must be a joke

I mean, come on. How do I ask my manager for time off? How long should I wait before decorating my desk? How do I follow up an email that just says "thank you"? My colleagues have too much fun! What should I do? How can I ask my boss to leave two minutes early? I think there's a really thick lin...

discussion

Pequod

It seems a lot of people interpreted the above to be a personal attack on their ideals. People who don't take to being challenged

And my choice of language, being from the internet age, confused them. Shouldn't use internet lingo on the internet after all

Wrong place for it

Patrick Bateman would like this forum

ArtOfCode

4:02 PM

Who's Patrick Bateman?

Masked Man

@Pequod The difference in POV is not really the problem here. I can almost feel that your intention is to improve this site, only your expression comes across as destructive criticism, rather than constructive one, and that ticks off a lot of people.

Pequod

Patrick Bateman

Patrick Bateman is a fictional character, the antihero and narrator of the novel American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis, and its film adaptation. He is a wealthy, materialistic Wall Street investment banker leading a double life as a serial killer. Bateman has also briefly appeared in other Ellis's novels. == Biography and profile == Bateman works as a specialist in mergers and acquisitions at the fictional Wall Street investment firm of Pierce & Pierce (also Sherman McCoy's firm in The Bonfire of the Vanities) and lives at 55 West 81st Street, Upper West Side in the American Gardens Building (where...

Masked Man

@Pequod If you think WP.SE has poor questions, you should visit Quora sometime. ;-)

ArtOfCode

@Pequod what a lovely man

AndreiROM

@ArtOfCode - it's actually a great movie

the guy is crazy, and knows he is

ArtOfCode

4:05 PM

@AndreiROM huh, might have a look

enderland

I thought Yahoo answers was the canonical "horrible questions" site? :)

Masked Man

Here's a "question" I randomly picked from my Quora news feed.

quora.com/…

ArtOfCode

@enderland either one :) they're almost as bad as each other.

Then there's reddit.

:)

Pequod

The poor questions are reinforced by the reputation-hungry posters. Like that little number by your name means anything. It's amusing to me. I want to find out why. Why answer such stupid questions and reinforce the notion that they should be allowed here. Then there's forums within forums about whether or not a certain thing should happen on the main forum. No one cares, and I find it fascinating that it continues to happen

ArtOfCode

@Pequod Clearly people do care if they participate. Just not you.

Pequod

4:06 PM

Perspective

AndreiROM

@Pequod - While I see your point, I have to say that you never know when/to whom some of these answers might be useful one day

ArtOfCode

@Pequod An interesting topic, yes.

AndreiROM

and the rep counter means a lot to some people

namely: myself, and my competitive nature :P

Pequod

The people here who are so hungry for rep probably missed out on some sad middle management job and try and control people over the internet instead, this is why my presence here irks so many people

enderland

no your presence irks people because you are annoying and have no problems insulting others

5

Masked Man

4:08 PM

@Pequod There's an easy solution to that problem. You post all the "stupid" questions and answer them yourself. The next time someone asks a "stupid" question, we will close those as duplicates, so no one gets any free reputation from answering stupid questions. :-)

ArtOfCode

@Pequod and you're doing what, sitting in an anonymous Internet chatroom, trying to convince others of your point of view that is totally subjective to your own perspective and perceptions? Is there really such a difference?

AndreiROM

@MaskedMan - is it really free reputation if you take the time to answer a question (even a dumb one), and people click that button?

Masked Man

@AndreiROM No, it is not, but it is "free" from his perspective, so I was just responding in that context.

Pequod

Sometimes the truth hurts my little ferrero rocher @enderland

ArtOfCode

@Pequod and sometimes the "truth" isn't the truth.

Pequod

4:10 PM

Deep

ArtOfCode

sigh - how old are you?

Yes, that's rhetorical.

Pequod

OH GOD WHERE'S THE FLAG BUTTON

I'M SO OFFENDED

Masked Man

There is no truth as long as each person has his individuality.

2

Pequod

MODS GET IN HERE

ArtOfCode

@MaskedMan Is that a quote or do I attribute that to you when I quote it every minute for the next few weeks?

AndreiROM

4:12 PM

@Pequod - i came to this discussion with an open mind, and willing to hear you out

but the constant baiting and name calling are getting to me

you're acting pretty childish

ArtOfCode

OK. Points of view, go. Nicely.

I'm gonna say if a question helps even one person, it's worth keeping around.

which may or may not be true or what I actually think

Masked Man

@ArtOfCode Oh, it is a rather old philosophical problem. Nothing that I came up with.

I got introduced to the idea while watching anime (and it is covered in quite a lot of those), and that got me thinking.

Pequod

I feel like you've already made your minds up so I see little point in trying to sway you otherwise. May as well have a little fun instead @AndreiROM

ArtOfCode

@Pequod "fun" != "name-calling"

AndreiROM

@ArtOfCode _ I agree. Some questions seems silly, or are simply seeking validation for their views, but if those answers help someone (the OP, or some future reader), then it's worth answering it

@Pequod - dude, i'm at work. SE helps keep me sane

Pequod

4:16 PM

I haven't called anyone names

ArtOfCode

11 mins ago, by Pequod

The poor questions are reinforced by the reputation-hungry posters. Like that little number by your name means anything. It's amusing to me. I want to find out why. Why answer such stupid questions and reinforce the notion that they should be allowed here. Then there's forums within forums about whether or not a certain thing should happen on the main forum. No one cares, and I find it fascinating that it continues to happen

Masked Man

One can look at it from another perspective. For a moment, let us accept that "poor" questions and "rep-hungry" answers are a problem. What would a solution look like? Do you simply beat everyone with a big stick every time they answer a "poor" question? Who gets to decide if a question is "poor" or not?

AndreiROM

@ArtOfCode - while caustic, he doesn't actually call anyone names in that paragraph

Pequod

Not sure where the insult is there @ArtOfCode

ArtOfCode

@AndreiROM oh, not directly. Indirectly, that reads "you're all stupid rep-whores".

AndreiROM

4:18 PM

hey, i'll freely admit that I love gaining reputation

call me what you will, i'm at peace with that aspect of my personality

Pequod

That's your happen, I happen to disagree

opinion*

ArtOfCode

@Pequod press the up arrow to edit your last message

Dawny33

@Pequod Isn't this name-calling?

1 hour ago, by Pequod

If I'm ridiculing the people here, then what's @Lilienthal doing with his thinly veiled insults at me? Broski needs to settle down

Pequod

Where's the insult?

ArtOfCode

Even the names in jest are annoying when you've been asked not to.

2

"Bae". "My little ferrero rocher". What even?

Pequod

4:20 PM

Just because they are not terms you use doesn't make them offensive

Bae is a common internet term

AndreiROM

lol, pequod is good at this

ArtOfCode

@Pequod Yes. That doesn't make it any less annoying when you've been asked not to use it.

AndreiROM

driving people crazy with seemingly innocuous comments

Pequod

I haven't insulted anyone, but most of you seem to think I go around spouting names at people

AndreiROM

i actually kinda admire that

Pequod

4:21 PM

Annoying, if you say so, insulting, no evidence

So if anything I deserve an apology for the repeated kicks from this chatroom

AndreiROM

that being said, i understand the frustration and annoyance he inspires as well

Pequod

You have defeated your own points

There is no case against me really

You just think there is because I'm different to all of you

ArtOfCode

@Pequod You have not, directly, insulted anyone. That's true. You have annoyed plenty of people, you have sniped at people, you have baited them into arguments. And if you keep at it when you've been asked to stop, you're going to get banned again.

Pequod

Mods can I get an apology is that cool?

So I haven't name called

But was kicked for doing so

So obviously I expect to be vindicated in the form of an apology from this message board

ArtOfCode

@Pequod Monica's "name-calling" was a reference to you calling everyone "bae" despite having been asked not to.

Which you can't deny you did.

Pequod

4:23 PM

I was asked by a member, not a mod

ArtOfCode

enderland is a mod

Pequod

I can ask you to stop saying the word mod, it's no less harmful than bae

ArtOfCode

and more to the point, that doesn't matter one jot

Pequod

Just because he doesn't like it. It's an abuse of power then

AndreiROM

respecting fellow members is a pretty nice convention

ArtOfCode

4:24 PM

if someone asks you to stop you stop no matter who they are

Pequod

But no reason was given

enderland

@Pequod did you read the Be Nice policy?

ArtOfCode

@Pequod Don't get into calling mod abuse. Take some advice. It never goes well.

AndreiROM

@ArtOfCode - you do realize you're feeding the troll, right? No offense, pequod

enderland

3 hours ago, by enderland

I would encourage you to read through the Be Nice policy that Stack Exchange has, if you intend to spend more time here

Pequod

4:25 PM

If I can ask you to stop using a word, and you don't, can I report you?

Because that's what you're insinuating

Bae is a word you don't like, not familiar with, it's not an insult

It's actually insulting for you to not let me use it

enderland

> "Bae," Urban Dictionary says, is an acronym that stands for "before anyone else," or a shortened version of baby or babe, another word for sweetie, and, mostly unrelated, poop in Danish.

just saying...

ArtOfCode

@Pequod If you keep saying something, and I don't like it, and ask you to stop, then continuing to do so in direct contravention of my request is disrespectful. The rule around here is be respectful, to everyone.

Doesn't matter whether I'm a mod or a user.

Pequod

Okay, I don't like the word direct

Please stop using it

It is disrespectful

ArtOfCode

And that is quite obvious satire and an attempt to play me off against myself. So - no.

Pequod

:)

Masked Man

4:27 PM

Hmm, how is 'bae' a violation of the Be Nice policy?

ArtOfCode

@MaskedMan It's not, on its own.

Masked Man

So what is the problem?

ArtOfCode

Its continued use to refer to a person despite their perfectly reasonable request to stop is.

Pequod

I haven't called him bae in a while

ArtOfCode

Good. Keep it that way.

Pequod

4:29 PM

So what's your point

Oh

There isn't one, you argued yourself out of it

Dawny33

@MaskedMan Okay, as a frequent user here, let me explain why :)

He has called a user "bae" even after multiple warnings by that user.

Pequod

Nice work

ArtOfCode

Stop clutching at straws, dude.

enderland

@MaskedMan if I called you "babe" would you like it? I sure wouldn't...

ArtOfCode

@Pequod don't call me bae

Dawny33

4:30 PM

So, the word bae isn't against the "be nice" policy. But, that behaviour is :)

Masked Man

@enderland Ok, that's more reasonable. I was getting the impression "he called me bae, so he should be banned". Without context, it makes just as much a sense as banning someone for calling you "dude" or "Sir".

Pequod

I disagree with the request, but I abided by it. Not sure why you're all still jumping down my throat

Get over it

Be professional

Please

ArtOfCode

@Pequod Which request, exactly?

Masked Man

@ArtOfCode The request to be not called bae, of course! :D :D

Pequod

Of course!

ArtOfCode

4:33 PM

Which one?

Masked Man

@ArtOfCode LOL

I see what you did there. :)

Pequod

The one from the mod, but I gather you don't like it either

AndreiROM

Don’t argue with trolls because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

Pequod

I won't address you out of my respect I have for you

ArtOfCode

@Pequod I'm a mod too. Hate to tell you.

Pequod

4:36 PM

Congratulations

ArtOfCode

@AndreiROM See I just beat them with mod-hammers instead :)

Pequod

You must be very pleased

ArtOfCode

@Pequod Thank you, I am actually :)

Pequod

Clearly

AndreiROM

I wanna be a mod :(

and have lots of rep

and shiny badges

also, I am an adult.

Pequod

4:36 PM

Me too I think I'd be great at it

How do I apply

ArtOfCode

@AndreiROM find a beta site about to be launched :)

@Pequod ^

or run in an election

AndreiROM

i aspire to one day run for mod on worldbuilding

ArtOfCode

the latter is probably easier

AndreiROM

but i'm too new to SE to feel i have the right to mod yet

ArtOfCode

@AndreiROM You've got more rep than I did when I became a mod.

by a full 50%

AndreiROM

4:38 PM

@ArtOfCode rep isn't everything though

for example I just started using chat over the past 3 days

ArtOfCode

@AndreiROM no, but it's a measure that quite a lot of people use.

AndreiROM

never participated in chat before

Masked Man

@Pequod Run for the next election, I will vote for you. :) What would be a good campaign slogan? "No more stupid questions"? Nah, that doesn't have a nice ring to it. Can you think of something else?

Pequod

"Necessary restructuring"

With the current mods taking involuntary redundancy

AndreiROM

pequod wants to rule the SE universe with an iron fist

Masked Man

4:40 PM

Ok, that will do. You would need to demonstrate some of that restructuring before the election though.

ArtOfCode

"A co-ordinated effort in reducing the collective overbearance of questions originating from those with little to no experience in the workplace."

AndreiROM

more META posts! Yay!

I think pequod will quit out of disgust before he generates more meta discussions, lol

(aka the exact thing which sparked this whole issue - "pointless debates")

Masked Man

@Pequod You know, a messiah like you shouldn't be fooling around in chat or meta. You should be guiding us stupid people on the right path in the main site.

Pequod

It's amusing that I've been accused of potentially scaring away newbies when the reception I have received here has been discriminatory and hurtful. I only hope all new members have the strength and perseverance as I do

The drive to make change

AndreiROM

you'll make a good politician one day

Masked Man

4:42 PM

Assuming he isn't one already. ;-)

ArtOfCode

@Pequod Email the team if you're really concerned about it :) team@stackexchange.com

Pequod

I'm not

Or at least, I don't care enough

Masked Man

He said something about being Donald Trump or something.

ArtOfCode

Good good

Masked Man

;-)

@Pequod Your strength and perseverance might find better use in welcoming newbies by answering their questions rather than bickering with stupid people like us here.

Pequod

4:46 PM

Not when the question is "should I put the word thanks at the end of an email"

AndreiROM

sometimes i really wish each user's profile would display their age

i think it would shed a lot of light on some situations

Masked Man

Well, then just downvote the question and leave a comment.

ArtOfCode

@AndreiROM It used to :(

Masked Man

Even the "leave a comment" part is optional.

AndreiROM

@MaskedMan your profile pic is disturbingly similar to mine

a second ago I was looking at a comment of yours and thinking: "i don't remember typing that ... "

Masked Man

4:48 PM

@AndreiROM I am a different character, who is actually known in-universe as the "Masked Man".

From the anime Naruto.

AndreiROM

my profile pic is just a random picture I had lying around

i figured it looked nice as a tiny icon, while not being insulting to anyone :P

that, and i love the colours

Masked Man

@Pequod While that question is certainly not one of the greatest puzzles ever, I still do not see why it is a problem if someone asks that question. Not everyone knows email etiquette as well as you do.

AndreiROM

i just made tea, and for some reason the office kettle smells like bacon, and now I don't know what to think anymore

Masked Man

Everything that is easy started as being difficult. Think about it for a moment.

AndreiROM

maybe i should post a question about it :P

Lilienthal

4:53 PM

Finally, I read it all.

That post counter just kept ticking and I lost track somewhere around 190.

AndreiROM

"Office etiquette regarding asking people to smell my tea because i think it smells like bacon"

Lilienthal

Anyway, minor point I wanted to raise (I realise you were probably speaking hypothetically):

@ArtOfCode Based on the SE model this is incorrect. Questions are supposed to help multiple (theoretical) people or it is not useful.

Masked Man

Answer: You are overthinking this. Reason: Nobody cares what your tea smells like. :-)

ArtOfCode

@Lilienthal Not any more, actually. That's an old thing. They removed the too localized reason because of that.

Masked Man

Unless it smells like the Danish "bae", in which case, you have a real problem on your hands.

Lilienthal

4:55 PM

@ArtOfCode Really? It was my understanding that a question should be able to get answers that resolve a reproducible problem or provide educational value.

ArtOfCode

@Lilienthal That was what I thought a while back, then Jon Ericson corrected me.

Lilienthal

Hmm, interesting.

ArtOfCode

or maybe it was Robert

AndreiROM

@MaskedMan - great analysis, you get the answer ;)

Lilienthal

I have no clue who either person is but I'm assuming their community mods or SE developers. :)

Masked Man

5:02 PM

@AndreiROM You actually inspired me to a great WB question. "What if I make tea and the kettle smells like bacon?" ;)

Of late, WB seems to be becoming a collection of all possible "what ifs".

ArtOfCode

@MaskedMan pls no

@MaskedMan we're trying to stop that

Lilienthal

...good luck :)

I've always wondered what the key expertise the Worldbuilding site requires to answer.

So far a vivid imagination seems the most important. ;)

ArtOfCode

@Lilienthal Correct!

Masked Man

@ArtOfCode I was joking, of course. It does get a bit irritating when such "what ifs" make it to the HNQ. What if President of US is cloned? I mean, seriously? :o

@Lilienthal Yes, that seems about right. The site description even alludes to it.

"Worldbuilding Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for writers/artists using science, geography and culture to construct imaginary worlds and settings."

AndreiROM

I love worldbuilding, because i get to advise people to start nuclear wars

Lilienthal

5:10 PM

I do particularly like those doomsday questions.

AndreiROM

qualifications? a love of nuclear holocaust?

enderland

Lol

AndreiROM

greatly revel in causing chaos and doom?

Lilienthal

But a nice thing about WB is that some answers put a lot of effort in. It's usually a bit pseudo-scientific rather than hard science though.

AndreiROM

exactly

Lilienthal

5:11 PM

It's basically XKDC's "What if?"

AndreiROM

personally i love history, science, and programming of course

so in WB i get to take my half-baked knowledge of each subject and make use of it ! :D

Masked Man

I find UX.SE quite interesting.

AndreiROM

UX?

Unique Xylophone?

Masked Man

User Experience

I used to have this naive understanding that UX is only relevant to web design. :o I learned how wrong I was, UX is relevant to everything.

AndreiROM

omg, i love the design of UX

so crisp, and clean, and BLUE

Lilienthal

5:17 PM

Did you see Skeptics pre-redesign? :)

Monica Cellio

@Pequod I've just skimmed the last couple hours of the transcript. You seem to think it is ok to call people "bae" or "babe" or "broski" or (insert patronizing term of your choice here) unless they tell you not to. You have it backwards, and especially when talking about the workplace. Unless you know that it's ok, don't do it. In many workplaces this would get you in trouble; it's not professional and it's just not appropriate. Leave it in junior high.

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Lilienthal

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Q: Should I recommend that I not be involved in a project if my advice is consistently ignored?

tl;dr: Should I recommend that I not be involved in a project if my advice is consistently ignored? Background I'm an electrical engineer with 20+ years experience in a highly specialised domain. I'm the only person with subject matter expertise in that particular domain within the company, and...

team united-kingdom team-role

Shouldn't we just remove this tl;dr? It's basically just restating the title in bold.

AndreiROM

if that's what you think just do it. if the community disagrees someone will roll it back

Lilienthal

@enderland Your answer here seems to have some formatting issues and a missing phrase ("I have raised issues to Manager X, but they are currently unaddressed. I don't know "").

@AndreiROM I'm not sure if it's an improvement. The post is so long that it makes sense to add a TL;DR even if it's just the title again. People can gloss over that sometimes and in this case the title is very descriptive and concise.

AndreiROM

5:37 PM

@Lilienthal - i think you might be overthinking this particular edit

Lilienthal

I usually do.

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