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user43095

12:52 AM

Hmm

user43095

So Windows 10 is meh.

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin better than 8?

I'm going through like 300 updates to update to w10 from w8

user43095

@Ieuan Probably. It has DirectX 12 and stuff

user43095

Dunno yet, not actually sure if I'll upgrade.

user43095

People are saying that it allows Microsoft to be Big Brother and whatnot.

Ieuan

12:54 AM

I'm just gonna dive in lol

user43095

How long do you think it'll take for SP1 to come out?

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin idk, couple months probably

user43095

So I have a half broken Ubuntu and a half broken Windows.

user43095

Which is just a teeny bit problematic.

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin just blow both up and install arch with gnome or cinnamon

user43095

12:59 AM

@Ieuan That's what I originally planned.

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin well I mean, I'm just running w8 now and I'm updating to w10 if possible

user43095

Need to upload my 7z's to MEGA though lol.

Ieuan

I don't really have any relevant input

user43095

And plus, if I blow everything up how am I supposed to get the update?

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin through iso released in like.. 10 hours or something

user43095

1:01 AM

@Ieuan I need to do that first then.

user43095

@Ieuan More like 15

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin sure

user43095

Also, my Internet Explorer and Firefox are exploded so I'm RIP when it comes to uploading files.

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin download waterfox

user43095

@Ieuan Using what fricking browser?

Ieuan

1:02 AM

@JeffreyLin how are you chatting rn?

user43095

@Ieuan Phone.

user43095

Ieuan

d1th2p59px32bw.cloudfront.net/releases/win64/installer/…

Download on phone transfer over USB

user43095

It doesn't download...

user43095

Wait

user43095

1:04 AM

TTYs still work.

user43095

I'll just wget it. And then move it to the windows partition.

user43095

Fix my Ubuntu now.

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin do you have to change your clock every time you switch between Windows and ubuntu?

or is that just a Europe thing?

user43095

@Ieuan /etc/defaults/RcS or something.

user43095

Turn the thing off.

Ieuan

1:06 AM

@JeffreyLin I don't have my dualboot anymore lol

user43095

Check with your Linux box.

user43095

It's because Windows is skrub and uses GMT instead of UTC or something.

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin we all use GMT in Europe lol

user43095

@Ieuan But Linux uses UTC

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin Yeah cuz linux is nice and all but not at all UX friendly lol

user43095

1:08 AM

Q: Windows vs Linux Local Time?

Ever since I started using Linux in dualboot with Windows I noticed that when I rebooted the machine, the time on the other OS was wrong, e.g. it was 12:00 on Linux, then I rebooted and on Windows it was 18:00, and when I checked the BIOS, the RTC was set to 18:00. Since my timezone is -06:00 CST...

user43095

TL;DR: Windows is doing it wrong

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin Meh

user43095

How did I even break the Ubuntu box?

user43095

When I boot up there's no top bar on the login screen and when you log in you see a black screen.

user43095

You have to startx and unity to get to a working desktop.

Ieuan

1:12 AM

@JeffreyLin the service just isn't started on boot?

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinitrc#Autostart_X_at_login

user43095

Probably.

user43095

@Ieuan But that will start X on tty1

user43095

Never mind.

Ieuan

Rebooting pc takes years after installing 88 updates

I just wanna do apt-get upgrade or pacman - Syy or w/e

user43095

@Ieuan I heard that that many upgrades would probably break Arch

Ieuan

1:25 AM

@JeffreyLin meh I updated an old arch VM a couple weeks ago, had about 80 packages installed and about 60-70 of them needed an update

Took longer than a couple seconds but it didn't crash

It performed pretty badly after but reboot fixed that

But the thing is

If Windows would just make it not this big of a hassle every fucking time I wouldn't have to let it pile up like this

user43095

Yeah, even dist-upgrades aren't that crazy.

Ieuan

/r/powerwashingporn/ new favorite sub

When I get a house I'm just gonna buy a power washer and go over the exterior every summer

Damnit reboot again

user43095

2:16 AM

HEADS UP KIDDIES: Minecraft for Windows 10 frees

user43095

> Windows 10 – Microsoft’s shiny new operating system launches tomorrow.

user43095

Read that as "Microsoft's shitty new operating system"

user43095

Mojang is saying that my password is wrong.

user43095

Also @Ieuan keep in mind that to prevent explosions it will be a rolling release, so you won't get it at 9 AM PST on the dot. In fact, you might get it days later.

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin you can get it now already, it's just not officially released for another couple hours

user43095

2:46 AM

@Ieuan How did you get it?

user43095

Also I'm bothered that SE and ChatSEy aren't the same app.

Kevin van der Velden

7:05 AM

@JeffreyLin which is not minecraft

@JeffreyLin well one is made by stack exchange, the other by @fredley

3 hours later…

Stack Exchange

9:50 AM

Minecraft Update News: Get Minecraft Windows 10 Edition for free

posted on July 29, 2015

Hello! Windows 10 is rolling out and so is the new Minecraft Edition! We’ve written up some instructions on how to get your free copy of Minecraft Windows 10 Edition at https://mojang.com/2015/07/get-minecraft-windows-10-edition-beta-for-free/ Please follow the instructions <3

Ieuan

10:08 AM

@KevinvanderVelden it is Minecraft, just PE

Which they don't clearly state anywhere afaik

Kevin van der Velden

True, I meant "Minecraft" as in the full name being minecraft =p

Jochem

10:21 AM

PE and minecraft aren't that different for most vanilla players, honestly

it's just us crazies that don't want anything to do with something you can't slap 200 mods onto

Ieuan

11:21 AM

@Jochem there's a lot of features missing

and weird shit

There's a couple blocks in PE that aren't in normal Minecraft

2 hours later…

user43095

1:40 PM

@Ieuan Nether reactor comes to mind.

user43095

Alright guys, before I do something stupid, do I need more than 4 partitions?

user43095

Probably not

user43095

Screw it, I'll stick with msdos.

Stack Exchange

Minecraft Update News: Minecraft 1.8.8

posted on July 29, 2015

We have released Minecraft version 1.8.8 to fix some security issues and improved some functionality within Realms. Updating is highly recommended from older versions, and is 100% compatible with all 1.8 versions.

user43095

3 more hours until explosions

Ieuan

2:37 PM

@JeffreyLin Just two; system and data

Jochem

there's some arguments to be made for system, data, logs, disk-based caches, but not really on a desktop system

Ieuan

@Jochem I did the one partition for everything thing once on a server, ends up just being a hassle

Because you never have enough space

Jochem

it's a safety feature, really

your users can't cause the entire system to grind to a hault. Neither can a syslog misconfiguration or rampant cups / mail daemon

I do agree it's a major PITA

user43095

So one for bootloader

user43095

One for Windows

user43095

2:46 PM

One for shared drive

user43095

One for /home

user43095

One for /

user43095

Darn it

Martin Sojka

I tend to put /usr, /bin, /sbin, /lib and /lib64 on their own partition (bind-mounting to the rescue!), mounted read-only unless I have updates to do.

Kevin van der Velden

@MartinSojka on a home pc?

Martin Sojka

2:47 PM

The second one is where /tmp and /var/tmp live, mounted noexec, nosuid

Third one is /var, /home and /root, nosuid

And the remainder is the root (/) partition directly, aside of stuff like /sys, /proc and so on, which are virtual file systems anyway.

@KevinvanderVelden There too, yes.

user43095

But this is a dual boot PC

Kevin van der Velden

Huh, sounds like a lot of hassle for a home pc =p