Minecraft Talk

user43095

1:11 AM

Apparently attempting to interact with my AE system kicks me. I blame @Kevin.

user43095

Okay, only the crafting terminal causes explosions, the pattern one doesn't.

user43095

Ooh now I remember why.

user43095

I was trying to make something illegal.

user43095

---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// This doesn't make any sense!

Time: 3/2/15 8:14 PM
Description: Rendering item

java.lang.NullPointerException: Rendering item
	at net.minecraft.item.ItemStack.func_94608_d(ItemStack.java:123)
	at net.minecraftforge.client.ForgeHooksClient.renderInventoryItem(ForgeHooksClient.java:161)
	at net.minecraft.client.renderer.entity.RenderItem.func_82406_b(RenderItem.java:563)
	at codechicken.nei.guihook.GuiContainerManager.drawSlotItem(GuiContainerManager.java:488)

user43095

I'm guessing sengir screwed that up. Or maybe it's a test recipe that no one else could be as foolish to try.

user43095

1:16 AM

Either way, could be used for trolling to temporarily lock someone out of their AE I guess.

user43095

1:29 AM

Also everyone has a mailbox now yay! Please break and replace it to claim it as yours.

user43095

Also 1.0.4 is out. Any real reason to upgrade?

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin ALL

user43095

@Ieuan I just want the EnderIO omnibuffers so I can start work on a public frame quarry (as in tune your Dimensional Transciever to Free Crap to get random quarry drops).

user43095

@Ieuan Your AE is dead

Ieuan

1:44 AM

@JeffreyLin My whole power gen is dead

Dont have enough potatoes

user43095

Actually, that's not the correct reason.

user43095

It's because the gold chest is clogged with poisonous potatoes.

Ieuan

Right

That probably doesn't help either

Booting up MC so I can fix that

user43095

It's 2. Go to sleep.

Ieuan

Almost three

user43095

1:47 AM

How many times this month has you screwed up your REM sleep working on your thing?

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin Er..

It's the third of the month

So 3

user43095

Your AE design doesn't seem to have an energy acceptor as far as I can tell.

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin Why would it need one?

user43095

So that it can accept energies :P

Ieuan

It already does

user43095

1:51 AM

Where?

Tim Post

Controllers accept basically anything

(BC pipes, energy pipes, ender I/O energy conduits, IC2 cables)

user43095

It won't accept if directly next to capicatator it seems. You need an EnderIO energy wire thing

Tim Post

@JeffreyLin It will if you configure the I/O of the capacitor to output on the side that touches the controller, at least it did

But yeah, I think it's only meant to accept any kind of cable (AE or energy), and it's smart enough to convert

Not sure about steam. I don't think it would accept steam (but who knows, it may)

user43095

@TimPost I think the energy conduit converts RF to AE

Tim Post

You can go right into it with a BC kinesis pipe

It's the controller that does the converting

(or IC2 cables work equally well)

user43095

1:59 AM

Then what's the point of the energy acceptor?

Tim Post

@JeffreyLin So you can power networks where (1) it's inconvenient to directly power the controller or (2) there is no controller.

You can toss an energy acceptor anywhere on a network and power the whole thing

Also, you need one to power a quantum ring, those don't accept power directly

@JeffreyLin Where is this mailbox thing you speak of?

user43095

I think things such as drives accept power directly though. So put a drive on the same network as a quantum ring

Tim Post

@JeffreyLin ME Chests too

user43095

@TimPost Age 3. I put it in a unoptimized place. Should probably be next to portals.

Tim Post

2:44 AM

As it turns out, I'm going to need autocrafting in order to set up autocrafting

@JeffreyLin How have you been powering @KevinvanderVelden's system up? I'm thinking of just chucking a bunch of resources in there and ordering up what I need.

user43095

How so?

Unionhawk

Yeah that's pretty much how it works

user43095

@TimPost BAD IDEA/

Tim Post

Why is turning his AE system on a bad idea?

user43095

When you do that and then just leave without his place being loaded you will host a drop party at Kevin's.

Tim Post

2:46 AM

I uh, ooooops.

user43095

Assuming you ordered something that requires crafting.

Tim Post

Well I didn't turn anything on

user43095

Especially processors and drives.

user43095

3:00 AM

@TimPost What kind of autocrafting?

Tim Post

7:59 AM

@JeffreyLin Mostly AE stuff.

Jochem

9:38 AM

@TimPost I never knew you could power a controller directly :o

Vandammetje

I repeatedly get kicked due to internat server error, anyone who encouters this too?

internal server error* and it seems related to sunscorched burning effect

Ieuan

11:02 AM

@Jochem You always could, that was the whole thing about the controllers, they accept any kind of power

user43095

11:34 AM

@Vandammetje Right when you log in?

user43095

@Ieuan I always used an energy acceptor.

ratchet freak

if you start with an ad-hoc network you kinda need to

unless you use the coal burner to power it

user43095

The vibrant chamber is terribly inefficient.

Kevin van der Velden

Compared to what? You can't say something is inefficient if it's the only way to do it

ratchet freak

11:50 AM

it's more efficient than using the crank to power it all

user43095

I thought the crank could only power chargers. Well I guess you could go crank -> energy cell

Vandammetje

12:12 PM

@JeffreyLin like 30 seconds after logging in

but when scorched sun is over, the kicking stops too

Ieuan

12:51 PM

@JeffreyLin You have always been able to pump power into a controller but for networks that don't need a controller it might be easier to use an energy acceptor instead

@Vandammetje Probably some packet being messed up

I'm debating whether or not it'd be worth it to decompile Thaumcraft and patch out the client-side warp effects, recompile and patch the classes back in

The headaches and sunburns are really annoying lol

Tim Post

1:30 PM

Yeah. If you just want to set up some growth accelerators, you'd .. probably want an energy acceptor (though I think those things accept power directly from the bottom)

Kevin van der Velden

Only AE power, so energy acceptors or cables

Tim Post

But anyway, yeah, ad-hoc networks, or configurations where it's just not convenient to plug directly into the controller. An acceptor doesn't take a channel, so you can put it anywhere on the network, and the whole thing gets power.

Ieuan

2:42 PM

@TimPost make it easier for me to visit chat.stackexchange.com from mobile pls

Tim Post

@Ieuan We're working on it. Chat is something that we did, everyone loved it, but it didn't really .. evolve much over the years.

On mobile, it's less than optimal, and we know that.

Ieuan

Cool, I can live with that

Still better than trying to IRC from mobile unless you use IRC cloud

Jochem

@Ieuan a nice linux box stuffed somewhere in your house with irssi running on it works wonders for that :D

Kevin van der Velden

@Ieuan there's also chatsey which helps

Ieuan

6:08 PM

@Jochem Yeah something like that

Vandammetje

7:54 PM

So now I'm stuck underneath @KevinvanderVelden's gigantic hungry node obsidian housing thingy. Is there any way to get away from it without teleporting or killing myself?

user43095

8:13 PM

@Ieuan There's a client side config I think. Called wuss mode or whatever.

user43095

@Vandammetje Just fly out. Works every time.

Vandammetje

8:32 PM

Cant fly, get sucked back again =(

Ieuan

9:55 PM

@JeffreyLin I'm no wuss though >. <

I just want to not be constantly annoyed by thaumcraft

@KevinvanderVelden this really does help

user43095

10:16 PM

What's the optimal bee? I'm finding that a steadfast fast worker shortest life bee that's diurnal and nocturnal works well, is there anything better? Also, it produces cocoa combs for some reason, so no honey :(

user43095

Wait nevermind steadfast drones normally produce cocoa combs.

Kevin van der Velden

What they produce is solely determined by their species

user43095

I picked some out from NEI and I think I'll try to breed these:

refined
energetic
tarry
volcanic
yellorite
quantum
glowering

Ieuan

10:38 PM

@JeffreyLin As soon as I turn on my laser my potatoes are all gone

Maybe three prechargers on two 64 culinary is too much

user43095

Are you using power for anything else?

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin Only AE and sometimes crafting

user43095

So why do you care if you have no power?

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin I don't really care about the power, I care about the potatoes

Any way to keep the farm running first and then overflow into something else?

Like only charge a second cell once the first is full?

user43095

Uh, there's no priority for energy

user43095

10:52 PM

But you could have one of those Buildcraft gate things interacting with the redstone qualities of capicatator banks.

Ieuan

Hmm

user43095

Ex if capicatator full emit redstone signal

Ieuan

Well for now I'll just see about improving my potato generation

user43095

There's only so much you can do to improve it. I guess a better way might be to use golems.

Ieuan

11:05 PM

Yeah but then I'd have to unlock the resear.. nvm

I have no idea how the new thaumcraft works though

You'd have to guide me through making a golem first

user43095

I'd just make ten at Kevin's

Ieuan

I'd need like 4 harvest and 4 gather golems

And water/earth upgrades probably

And bowties

user43095

Easy

Ieuan

I don't even know how to make thaumcraft

user43095

That's why you're not a level 100 mage

Ieuan

11:13 PM

Then teach me

Let me be your apprentice

user43095

Okay, step 1: open the book. Step 2: read the book. Step 3: become mage

user43095

Can a bedrockium drum hold 65M buckets or 65K buckets?

Ieuan

Lol

Vandammetje

@JeffreyLin That sounds like what @KevinvanderVelden and I did.

user43095

@Vandammetje Really? I don't think just anyone can do that.

Vandammetje

11:17 PM

"Hey look, a book! Let's read it!" BAM full permanent warp

user43095

PSA: I UNLOCKED EVERYTHING THERE IS TO UNLOCK IN THE THAUMINOMICON. IF YOU WANT ALL THE WARPS GO TO THE WORKSHOP'S THAUMCRAFT SECTION AND READ THE BOOK.

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin 65M milibuckets

So 64k buckets

user43095

@Ieuan I think I got gyped then

user43095

Because I expected 65 gazillion buckets

Vandammetje

You get all the warps! And you get all the warps! And you! Everyone got warps!

Somehow that sounds like speading some kind of STD...

user43095

11:44 PM

WAIT WAIT WAIT ZOMBIES CAN BE SLAUGHTERED

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