The Nineteenth Byte

@Phoenix Nope, still... entirely Rainbow Six Siege. I have less than 5 hours in that game, there is no way I watched that much videos about it. This is actually silly

Mendeleev

@HyperNeutrino Nope, University of Washington.

user165474

oh ok

user165474

so then i probably wouldn't know which one without looking it up :P

Phoenix

4:26 AM

There's still 3 University of Washingtons

Seattle, Bothell, and the one actually no one cares about.

(Though not many people care about Bothell, either)

user165474

D: oh i see

Phoenix

University of California is the worst

I think there's seven or something?

user165474

D: oh wow. interesting

user165474

but are they actually called "University of California" or is it just a university in California?

Phoenix

They are all called University of California. People refer to them as e.g. UC Berkeley for the one located in Berkeley.

user165474

4:29 AM

Ah I see. Okay.

Wheat Wizard

Does anyone know what language the .bmx extension is used for? I have some code that needs compiling, but I don't know what language it is in.

Phoenix

@WheatWizard Alpha Five Image Library File

Wheat Wizard

Yeah its not that

ASCII-only

@Phoenix That's not a language

Phoenix

Which suggests is a custom thing.

Wheat Wizard

4:31 AM

Its code, I've opened it up

Phoenix

What does the code look like?

ASCII-only

@WheatWizard Pls paste the code

Phoenix

Ninja'd

Wheat Wizard

SuperStrict
Framework brl.standardio
Import brl.retro
Import brl.filesystem
Import brl.stream

Global path$="code.txt"
If AppArgs.length>1 Then
	Local ona%=0
	For Local a$=EachIn AppArgs
		ona:+1
		If ona=2 Then path=a
	Next
EndIf

Type prog
	Global cmds$="  <>^v+-oecz/\?!*()]x.:@,"
	Global cw%=32,ch%=16,cx%=0,cy%=0,cr%=0
	Global cdir%=0
	Const e@=0,w@=1,n@=2,s@=3
	Global memw%=32,memh%=16
	Field code@[cw,ch]
	Field mem%[memw,memh]
	Field parens:stack=New stack
	Field memx%=0,memy%=0,memr%=0
	Field skips%=0

Phoenix

Nothing I've ever seen looks like that.

Ok Apparantly that's a language called Blitz Basic

Wheat Wizard

4:32 AM

same, However I do remember using .bmx files before in the past

@Phoenix Oh nice

Phoenix

Sorry lang is BlitzMax, BlitzBasic is the company name

It's a bit confusing but basically blitzbasic.com/logs/userlog.php?user=8077&log=1889

Wheat Wizard

Ok cool

Phoenix

I think it transpiles to C?

IDK

Wheat Wizard

Now to click a very sketchy Download Now button

Phoenix

I think the fact that you're compiling code that looks like what you pasted is a sign you have moved beyond reasonable measures of sketchiness already.

Wheat Wizard

4:36 AM

It came with a .exe file. fortunately I'm to lazy to open Wine up to run that.

Phoenix

But not too lazy to install the sketchiest programming language in history?

ASCII-only

@Phoenix C++

Phoenix

Also, for me at least wine open by itself when I run an .exe. Nothing complicated.

ASCII-only

@CoolestVeto I haven't seen you here for a long time

Destructible Lemon

yo

Phoenix

4:39 AM

@ASCII-only Please do all you can to make VSL not look like Blitz Max.

Destructible Lemon

who is interested in my Botdom koth, because I am probably about to put it on github

ASCII-only

@Phoenix How does it look anything like blitz max >_>

Phoenix

It doesn't, but it changes rapidly.

Destructible Lemon

how do I push via git again?

Phoenix

git push

Remember to git commit -m 'message' first

ASCII-only

4:43 AM

@Phoenix really

@Phoenix and git add -A before that

or just do it the lazy way and git citool

Phoenix

I hear git add . is golfier

Wheat Wizard

Ok It looks like my sketchy donwloads are not doing what they should, which is always a good sign.

Destructible Lemon

@Phoenix thanks but I also need to set the github repo somehow

Phoenix

@ASCII-only It wasn't meant to be serious, but... kinda? New features are added to the plan at the rate people come up with them.

@DestructibleLemon You have to set the repo up from the website.

Also, use GitLab

Destructible Lemon

yup, done

but there is some sort of command to get the repo for when you want to push to it

Phoenix

4:46 AM

git remote add origin <url>

ASCII-only

@Phoenix oh yeah :P (well we're not going to make it anythin like BASIC :P)

user165474

First do git init inside the directory if you didn't already, just in case you forget :P

Destructible Lemon

@Phoenix is that origin? I can name it github right?

Phoenix

You should name it origin, sometimes it gets confused otherwise, I've found.

Wheat Wizard

I guess I am just going to run the exes in wine

Destructible Lemon

4:47 AM

also then I have to go through the process of getting a special pass word for this computer because I have 2fa

like wtf github

Phoenix

Also, everyone calls it origin, so it will be easier to copy-paste code from SO

@DestructibleLemon Remember to cache git credentials or you will have to every single time you push

git config --global credential.helper cache

ASCII-only

Okay so can anyone think of a good unicode character for \r\n (newline + linefeed), basically instead of aligning to cursor x it aligns to x=0

Destructible Lemon

o ok

Phoenix

@ASCII-only There's a literall newline character

ASCII-only

@Phoenix no literal newlines pls :P

Jan Dvorak

4:50 AM

Then a newline literal

Phoenix

@ASCII-only ␍␊

Destructible Lemon

@Phoenix how to use that?

Phoenix

Type it literally anywhere.

The --global will make it remember for all git activities, so leave it out and do it in the project dir if you have multiple accounts.

Destructible Lemon

after I type the password?

Phoenix

It will store your info the next time you need to type it in

Dennis

4:53 AM

@DestructibleLemon If you could just use your plain GitHub password from the command-line, 2FA would be essentially useless.

Destructible Lemon

if I could type the second factor from the commandline....

plus you know, the second password

Phoenix

^^^ Is why I don't have 2FA

Too lazy

Dennis

@DestructibleLemon Every time you push something? You'd disable 2FA after a day.

Phoenix

I did

Destructible Lemon

so far everytime I push something I have to go through this shit of a new password

user165474

4:57 AM

survey: how long is your github password

ASCII-only

@Phoenix :|

@HyperNeutrino 10

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino 13 bytes, but 7 of them are a horizontal run on my keyboard. And the other 6 are two repeated three times. (No, no I don't care about security)

Wheat Wizard

@HyperNeutrino 21 chars

Dennis

@DestructibleLemon Those aren't one-time tokens.

Phoenix

@ASCII-only What's wrong with that?

user165474

4:59 AM

lol mine is 38 chars

Dennis

@Phoenix Considering you just posted the pattern for the whole world to see, the aclaration wasn't necessary.

Phoenix

I don't even need my GitHub account for anything.

It's blocked at my school, so I use GitLab now anyway.

user165474

What if I start posting random stuff to it and then blame you for weirdness?

user165474

@Phoenix wait actually? that sucks

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino I would prolly delete my account

Nothing useful on it

user165474

5:01 AM

lol true

Dennis

@Phoenix That's not how it works. First of all, you couldn't delete the account if someone took it over. And if anything illegal was done in your name, law enforcement wouldn't care either way.

Phoenix

@Phoenix CMC: Calculate how many possible passwords that generates, given that the seven in a row must stay within letters/numbers. Ignore shift key.

Destructible Lemon

@Dennis well, that's how they've been to me

I still don't see why they could not implement 2fa over the command line

also it got annoyed at me because there is a readme in the repo

what do

user165474

@Phoenix 12

ASCII-only

@Phoenix 12 * 36 * 36 * 36 = 559872

user165474

5:05 AM

onvm

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino wait you're right

Phoenix

@Dennis They'd need a verification code from my email to sign in from a new computer, right? And if my email gets compromised I have bigger problems.

user165474

onvm about my onvm

Phoenix

Wut

What is math

Dennis

@HyperNeutrino 16 chars + 2FA

user165474

5:06 AM

my password is so long that it's almost too long to be useful (according to one of my cs friends)

user165474

(>256 bits of entropy)

Destructible Lemon

help me with git problems

please

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon ok

Dennis

@Phoenix They would? I don't think I ever got one of those emails.

Destructible Lemon

it says I can't push because there is something else in the repo already

Phoenix

5:08 AM

@Dennis Really? I get them all the time for everything, I kinda assumed GH would do that too.

Anyway, I've deleted my account.

Destructible Lemon

you could've just changed password

Dennis

That's one way of solving the problem, I guess.

2

Phoenix

And then immediatly realized ^^

Fortunatly nothing useful was lost

Destructible Lemon

you really didn't think of that

how

Phoenix

I don't know man...

Jan Dvorak

5:09 AM

How come you don't have all your git repos on your computer?

Phoenix

I do. Which is why nothing useful was lost.

Dennis

@HyperNeutrino You only need a long password in case of a server breach anyway. It's not like a website would let you try millions of passwords per second.

user165474

True.

Destructible Lemon

maybe he just has 10 words or something

like the correct horse battery staple

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino What does the math on that look like?

user165474

5:10 AM

I was just about to go over the TIO and sort my password to show you the chars and then I realized that if I did that then Dennis might be able to steal my password from the TIO logs

user165474

@Phoenix My method: look at the keyboard and count.

Destructible Lemon

I think there would be more than 12

with the extra chars

Phoenix

Theres 36^2 2-key combinations that could be the second part of the pasword.

user165474

1234567
2345678
3456789
4567890
qwertyu
wertyui
ertyuio
rtyuiop
asdfghj
sdfghjk
dfghjkl
zxcvbnm

user165474

@Phoenix oh

user165474

5:12 AM

then 12 * 36 ^ 2

Destructible Lemon

ninja'd by ascii only

user165474

;_;

user165474

but ascii only got it wrong

user165474

Answer: 15552

Destructible Lemon

oh, he must have counted wrong

Phoenix

5:13 AM

That makes 15552 possible passwords given the information I revealed, which isn't that terrible.

Dennis

@HyperNeutrino Only if you save it as a permalink before clicking run. Requests aren't logged, but referers are.

Phoenix

And it doesn't include the possibility of the shift key.

user165474

ah okay

Destructible Lemon

actually wouldn't it be 36*35*12

because it isn't 1 repeated 6 times

user165474

but the two are not guaranteed to be unique

Phoenix

5:14 AM

I think they can be assumed unique tbh

Dennis

@Phoenix In the same sense a 2-character password isn't terrible.

Phoenix

Right....

Destructible Lemon

@Phoenix a 3 character password has more possibilities

user165474

@Dennis Wait, if so, then when I run a program that gives an output, not generate a permalink, close the tab, open another TIO tab, type in the same program, and run it, how does it hit the cache if it's not logged?

Phoenix

I'm just going to hope that none of you try to log into my anything else.

user165474

5:16 AM

logs into your life

Phoenix

You don't know my email address

I'm safe for now.

user165474

are you sure about that

user165474

>:-)

Phoenix

It's in my SE profile isn't it....

user165474

Not from what I can see.

Phoenix

5:17 AM

Ok good that's private

Dennis

@HyperNeutrino The output is accessed by a 256-bit hash of the request.

user165474

Oh, okay. I see.

Jan Dvorak

CMC: discover Phoenix's email address and post its MD5 hash.

Phoenix

You should start with my IRL name first

user165474

@Dennis right I should've thought of that, that's how I always store passwords on random servers I make :I

Phoenix

5:18 AM

Which I have posted here

But it's prolly not too easy to find.

user165474

Pavel?

Phoenix

That is part of it, yes

user165474

Not that hard to find.

user165474

For one, it was your old username.

Destructible Lemon

what happened to grigori. is that part of it?

Phoenix

5:20 AM

Right, but my lastname is harder

user165474

Also, real name when said by 242914 in room 240

Phoenix

@DestructibleLemon Famous Russian mathematician.

Destructible Lemon

was the second part of that username your last name?

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon oh nvm read wrong, i thought it was like aabbcc not aaabbb

Phoenix

Grigori Perelman solved one of the mellenium problems.

Destructible Lemon

5:21 AM

also dungeon of botdom is up on github now

@Phoenix cool

Phoenix

He is very much not me.

user165474

What's Григорий ?

Dennis

@Phoenix Found it.

Phoenix

Lovely

Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino is that not grigori

user165474

5:21 AM

oh

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino Cyrilic for Grigori

Dennis

Chat has a search function, you know? ;)

user165474

Ah. Interesting.

Destructible Lemon

github.com/Destructible-Watermelon/dungeon-of-botdom

user165474

Oh I remember back when you were Destructible Melon

Destructible Lemon

5:22 AM

do you know how many people have the username "Phoenix"

user165474

too many?

Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino not that long ago

user165474

Yes

user165474

for whatever reason back then I always thought you had more rep than me

user165474

actually maybe you did

Phoenix

5:23 AM

@Dennis I just searched literally my last name and couldn't find it

Anonymous

@HyperNeutrino > 1

Destructible Lemon

I don't answer very often

Phoenix

So I don't think I posted it at all.

Destructible Lemon

@Dennis is this a trick

ATaco

Pretty sure most people know my name.

user165474

5:24 AM

Someone contact SE and check their search queries

user165474

@ATaco William Lemon

Dennis

@Phoenix Oh, but you did. Want me to wipe it from the transcript?

ATaco

@HyperNeutrino Yep.

That was creepy fast, but yep.

user165474

From the Jelly Hypertraining classroom

Phoenix

@Dennis I'm fine, I'm curious to see what you searched though.

Unless I spelled it wrong.

user165474

5:24 AM

@Phoenix Dennis used his amazing god powers and scanned the entire TNB transcript in a matter of seconds

Phoenix

That would be embarassing >_>

Anonymous

It would be really sad to spell your own name wrong

3

Phoenix

But, as I said, searching my last name yielded 0 results

Dennis

@Phoenix chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=%40hotmail.com&room=240

Phoenix

Dammit

user165474

5:25 AM

lol that also includes the entire email address

Phoenix

@Dennis Please do wipe that yes

user165474

@ATaco I got it from here: gist.github.com/GolfingSuccess/9067e38ff56c3501be7fb84b1dbb7097

ATaco

Spooky, I don't remember actively saying my name.

Although it is plastered over my github.

Destructible Lemon

@ATaco you told us you were the real lemon

Dennis

@Phoenix Done. It's interesting that yours was the only email address that matched the query though.

ATaco

5:27 AM

Oh I've mentioned my name here tonnes.

Phoenix

Yep

I don't actually use it, as I mentioned I use gmail but that has a rather embarassing name.

user165474

CMC: Find the longest consecutive chain of messages in TNB that are all replies to something (not necessarily to each other).

Destructible Lemon

@Dennis classic phoenix

@HyperNeutrino why don't we make one now :P

Dennis

@Phoenix The reason your last name didn't work is because chat only matches entire words.

user165474

@HyperNeutrino Also, I want to try something

Phoenix

5:29 AM

@DestructibleLemon It might be removed as noise

user165474

@DestructibleLemon please don't do that because noise

user165474

ninja'd

Destructible Lemon

@Phoenix really

Anonymous

@Phoenix s/might/will

Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino damnit you ruined the chain

user165474

5:29 AM

@DestructibleLemon too bad

Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino please delete this

user165474

no

user165474

>:-P

Phoenix

@DestructibleLemon It would still say (removed) anyway

Destructible Lemon

@Dennis can you please 11 that message for the chain?

Anonymous

5:30 AM

Asking moderators to delete other users' messages for dumb reasons is not a good idea

user165474

@DestructibleLemon Please don't ask people to 11 other people's messages unless it actually has a real reason to be 11'd

Phoenix

I'm now even sure why you bothered asking that. And to Dennis, of all people.

Dennis

And even if I was drunk or something and agreed to that, the 11 request is not a reply...

4

Destructible Lemon

the chain was already broken too much

user165474

then why would you ask to 11 it???

Phoenix

5:34 AM

Theory: Whenever Dennis says something, the universe rolls a d20 to determine if it should be starred for no reason.

user165474

Where can I find TNBDE?

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino ppcg.starmaninnovations.com/tnbde

user165474

thanks

user165474

wait is starmaninnovations made by El'Endia?

Phoenix

Yes

user165474

5:36 AM

ah i see

user165474

how do i select only messages by dennis on tnbde?

user165474

actually how do I SQL in general >_>

Phoenix

SELECT *

FROM "transcriptAnalyzer_message"

WHERE name=="Dennis"

user165474

oh thanks :D

user165474

error D:

Phoenix

5:38 AM

No wait that's wrong

user165474

column "Dennis" does not exist
LINE 6: WHERE name=="Dennis"
                    ^

Phoenix

Yeah

ASCII-only

wait brb

Dennis

@HyperNeutrino pff blasphemy

user165474

Dennis is a row, not a column.

Dennis

5:40 AM

Only when I lay down.

user165474

What about when you're drunk and fall over? :P

Phoenix

That counts as laying down

user165474

I suppose.

Dennis

It also hasn't happened yet.

user165474

But then it would be more correct to say "Only when I am laying down" because to lay down does not include to fall over (by my definitions).

ASCII-only

5:41 AM

ppcg.starmaninnovations.com/tnbde/#eXtYSdCFiV

Phoenix

I wonder how it determined which messages to show?

They seem random

user165474

Decreasing order of id

Phoenix

That suggests latest first, but clearly that's not it.

user165474

hm...

user165474

also how does one use string literals in SQL

ASCII-only

5:46 AM

@HyperNeutrino "literal"

Phoenix

I think the objective is to figure out what percent of Dennis' messages have stars?

user165474

but that keeps saying "column blah does not exist"

user165474

@Phoenix no it's to find the longest reply chain

user165474

but that is part of the objective

Phoenix

ok

Anonymous

6:15 AM

Be aware that TNBDE is out of date and not really working all that well

ASCII-only

ppcg.starmaninnovations.com/tnbde/#HNCFbiQIDM

Adám

@Mego TNBDE?

ASCII-only

@Adám TNB Data Explorer

^^^ is an example query

Adám

@ASCII-only OK, added to the terms and abbreviations meta post.

ASCII-only

@Phoenix Done btw

user165474

6:27 AM

what the hell just happened...

user165474

nvm

user165474

I tried going to sleep 20 minutes ago

user165474

but from my internal clock it feels like a couple hours have gone by

user165474

???

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user165474

6:28 AM

dammit NMP you interrupted me

user165474

xD

user165474

6:43 AM

Hello @Sisyphus

ASCII-only

Anyone here good with Mathematica?

Sisyphus

hi @HyperNeutrino

user165474

You appear to have not sent a message in a while.

user165474

As in 500 days !!!11!! :P

Sisyphus

Pretty much

I lurk but rarely login

user165474

6:47 AM

Ah. I see.

user165474

By the way your first challenge is great. Higher score than my all-time highest :D

Sisyphus

I barely remember what it was... it was over a year ago (!)

Golfiest vulnerable PHP code: ` $_GET[0] `?

ASCII-only

@Sisyphus But it's a popcon not a golf

user165474

Surrounded Countries.

user165474

@ASCII-only Well actually it's partially both... :I

Sisyphus

6:50 AM

Apparently you get 20 points per byte, but 1 per vote (???)

user165474

yes

user165474

and 10 for using PHP

user165474

(???)

Sisyphus

Maybe the most obscure/hard to break vulnerable code might possibly sort of work, maybe, but I don't see how a 'most vulnerable' contest is going to get anything but eval($user_stuff)

user165474

'most vulnerable' isn't even well-defined

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