The Nineteenth Byte

Just ran that on my dev copy of Mono's source code on alwsl and another bare metal arch machine. It's maybe a few seconds, for nowhere near what you got.

Nathan Merrill

hmmm...is there a large repo I could checkout?

all of my other repos are pretty small

mınxomaτ

4:38 PM

Mono

(github.com/mono/mono)

Why do you try so hard to be annoying.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

*be

ColdGolf

^

Anyways

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

15 hours ago, by Mego

Ignoring annoying users solves many problems

DJMcMayhem

^

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Mast lol, that message about stars you said the other day has a lot.

21/22

Mast

4:54 PM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Yea, something funny happened there. Like you guys needed to prove a point.

4

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ye

'Grandpa, what was it like in the Before time?' 'It was hell. People went around saying glass was a slow-flowing liquid. You folks these days don't know how good you have it.'

me irl

Business Cat

Reading it now

List of common misconceptions

This incomplete list is not intended to be exhaustive. This list corrects erroneous beliefs that are currently widely held about notable topics. Each misconception and the corresponding facts have been discussed in published literature. Note that each entry is formatted as a correction; the misconceptions themselves are implied rather than stated. == Arts and culture == === Food and cooking === Searing meat may cause it to lose moisture in comparison to an equivalent amount of cooking without searing. Generally, the value in searing meat is that it creates a brown crust with a rich flavor via the...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

same

Releasing Helium Nuclei

same

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Lol its always hilarious to take a look at chat after a while

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

5:07 PM

ye

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

And see the past conflicts

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

I have to say, there seem to be a lot of new people to PPCG/chat recently.

That's not bad though, just interesting.

ColdGolf

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Look at my question again now.

Edit: Sorry, forgot to save.

Releasing Helium Nuclei

The third misconception...everyone i know believes...

ColdGolf

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Okay, I saved it now.

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Is the question more clear now?

Nathan Merrill

5:16 PM

@mınxomaτ ok, finally got mono downloaded and everything. git status on wsl takes 39.1s, and on git bash it takes 2.6s

its definitely independent of the repo

mınxomaτ

I still can't reproduce this. Will do some testing later.

Nathan Merrill

the other test you had me run was writing large amount of data. could it be related to accessing files ?

aka, it takes a long time to resolve a path

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Was somebody (maybe @mınxomaτ?) trying to make a chat client for SE chat?

DJMcMayhem

I think quill was at one point

mınxomaτ

Nope. AFAIK that was Quill

DJMcMayhem

5:19 PM

Ninja. :)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

he made one for the terminal, but it's still incomplete iirc

El'endia Starman

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ About the same I'd say, actually. It's just that one particular user is being particularly noteworthy (and not in a good way), so you're just really aware of it.

Nathan Merrill

oh, is it possible I have different configs set between the two gits?

muddyfish

@ColdGolf I still don't understand the input format. Also the challenge seems to be made out of lots of sub-challenges. I personally wouldn't be interested in answering it even if you made the wording better

DJMcMayhem

Oh BTW @EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Did you ever fix the V answer?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

5:26 PM

nope.

i tried though

@El'endiaStarman I think a lot of the new users have entered chat also, even before the particular user. Like rohan and tux.

@DJMcMayhem pls halp vim no like me

DJMcMayhem

So basically, if there's only one element, it's the min and the max so you just need to duplicate it before deleting all the lines in the middle

So just yank a line and paste it.

muddyfish

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ could you not call them 'that particular user', it makes it feel like an us vs them situation and I'd rather not have this chat room degrade into something like the rest of the internet

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

okay, sorry

@DJMcMayhem okay, i'll work on that in a moment.

can't right now

El'endia Starman

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Tux is not quite so new anymore. Rohan is, but we do normally get new users in chat on a fairly regular basis.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

okay, i guess i never noticed

Business Cat

5:38 PM

And Cat ;_;

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

you aren't new

i've seen you for like a month or so

Business Cat

Although I'm a few months old

Nathan Merrill

@El'endiaStarman the number of new users I think has increased

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Quill ... SE chat terminal should probably have a /showstarred message or something, instead of randomly giving me 4 highly starred messages. :P

Nathan Merrill

oooh, this actually sounds like a query we could make over chat

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

5:40 PM

I can't take this seriously

codereview.stackexchange.com/…

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Q: How did I lose 5 reputation on an answer?

On this answer, it says I lost 5 reputation, and I'm really puzzled about what chain of events could have caused this. I don't care about the lost rep, I'm just curious to understand as I've never seen this before. Upvotes on answers are +10 reputation. Removal of an upvote on an answer woul...

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Yes people seriously review bf on code review... (I feel like the only review needed is DONT user BF)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

holy shite onebox html is big

Mast

@RohanJhunjhunwala We like the language.

El'endia Starman

@NathanMerrill I was thinking that too.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

5:42 PM

^^

Mast

"That's unreadable code and therefore unidiomatic" - uhh, you know which language this is right? — immibis Sep 6 '15 at 10:22

2

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Quill also, edits say the "foo edited their post of "<newcontent>" to say: <newcontent>", instead of "of "<oldcontent>" to say: <newcontent>"

[240: The Nineteenth Byte] Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ: ^
[240: The Nineteenth Byte] Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ edited their post of "^^" to say: ^^

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Seems legit

DJMcMayhem

@NathanMerrill helium nuclei is also relatively new

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

Nathan Merrill

6:01 PM

@mınxomaτ what's the alternative to /dev/sda on wsl?

I'm trying to run a hdparam test

Mast

@NathanMerrill wsl?

Perhaps it's already mounted.

Nathan Merrill

er, wls

windows linux subsystem

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

7

Business Cat

Good old QWOP

DJMcMayhem

Almost sent a very unfortunate typo. Meant to say "Just to clarify what you are thinking" almost sent "Just to clarify that you are thinking"

It's a one letter difference that drastically changes the tone and message, lol

5

Q: Make your country proud!

You are from the tiny country of Que-Wopistan. The Que-Wopistonion's are a proud people, and every Que-Wopistonian dreams of making their country proud by representing their country in the Olympics. You have been given the incredible honor of competing in the 100-meter-dash. You are the nations...

code-challenge game keyboard

Mast

6:13 PM

@NathanMerrill No clue what that is. But if you're reaching for your harddisk, you may need to specify which sda you want. I got 8.

DJMcMayhem

My worst challenge ever posted, haha

Mast

It counts every partition separately.

Nathan Merrill

its running linux on my windows machine :)

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

@DJMcMayhem Nah, I'm disappointed that more people didn't answer

It was a great idea

Nathan Merrill

aka, when I do ls /dev, I don't have anything that starts with sda

DJMcMayhem

6:16 PM

@βετѧΛєҫαγ well there's only one answer, so it probably wouldn't be too hard to outgolf. :P

Zodzie

you wouldnt find it there.. you could try within fdisk

or issue df -h

Nathan Merrill

Ok, I think its HD seeks that are the cause. I ran bonnie++, and I'm getting 356.9 random seeks per second

and it reported that it used 453% of my cpu

which is bizarre, but oh well :)

Zodzie

what's so great about wls ?? I have been running linux commands on windows for over a decade

thanks Cygwin

Nathan Merrill

I can't stand cygwin. its slow and clunky

I've been using git bash though, its working great

Zodzie

yeah i like using git on bash

wls i guess supplies a bash shell?

or are you using "git bash" for windows, instead of using git on bash provided by wls/cygwin ?

Nathan Merrill

6:21 PM

I currently use "git bash" for windows, but I'm trying to use git on bash provided by wls

Zodzie

yeah drop git bash if there are alternatives

Nathan Merrill

oh, I like it quite a bit. What problems do you have with it?

Zodzie

I have only tried to use it once but it was so overly confusing in comparison to just regular ol' git

i think i stuck with the eclipse git addon for my needs on that windows machine

trichoplax

@DJMcMayhem You mean "outchallenge"?

Zodzie

git is fun and games until you have to get pull requests approved.

DJMcMayhem

6:25 PM

@trichoplax fair

Simon Forsberg

@RohanJhunjhunwala We don't have that many BF askers though, nor do we have many BF reviewers

@RohanJhunjhunwala Hey! That's my posts!

ColdGolf

@mınxomaτ When I was gone you tagged me?

Nathan Merrill

@SimonForsberg did you get pinged herE?

Mast

No, that's my fault.

El'endia Starman

Just now, I almost wrote an if conditional that had x > y and y < x as conditionals...

Simon Forsberg

6:27 PM

in The 2nd Monitor, 4 mins ago, by Mast

in The Nineteenth Byte, 41 mins ago, by Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Yes people seriously review bf on code review... (I feel like the only review needed is DONT user BF)

Nathan Merrill

ah :)

well, welcome!

trichoplax

@DJMcMayhem Doesn't have the same ring to it though...

ColdGolf

I wonder if there'll be sandbox for ppcg answers, not just questions

Mast

@El'endiaStarman if(not x==y)

Simon Forsberg

@NathanMerrill I even started working on a Brainfuck IDE that is meant to detect some issues while working with BF

Nathan Merrill

6:29 PM

@SimonForsberg I think I saw a community ad for that

Releasing Helium Nuclei

ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html

ColdGolf

@SimonForsberg pls write your IDE in Pyth

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@El'endiaStarman 10/10

muddyfish

Simon Forsberg

@NathanMerrill Yup. It could also use some more contributors.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

6:29 PM

@muddyfish how

muddyfish

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I pressed some buttons?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

o-o

El'endia Starman

@Mast No no, as distinct conditions.

Simon Forsberg

@ColdGolf Most of the code I write is Java or Groovy and I already have some algorithms for detecting issues with BF code written in Java/Groovy. Why should I use Python?

ColdGolf

@muddyfish Woah. somebdy won at QWOP.

@SimonForsberg Cuz pyth isn't python?

muddyfish

6:31 PM

@ColdGolf it's 100m to win

Simon Forsberg

@ColdGolf then what is Pyth?

ColdGolf

@muddyfish :D

28m isn't bad.

It's impossible.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@SimonForsberg Pyth is a golfing language based on python.

El'endia Starman

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Technically, that's how it started out, not how it currently is.

ColdGolf

Nothing's better than to write a golfing IDE in a golfing language.

Simon Forsberg

6:32 PM

Oh bloody hell.... of course, what else would I expect from PPCG people? -.-

4

Nathan Merrill

@SimonForsberg we need more Java developers here. I always get a bunch of hate here when I try to use Java here :)

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Q: Only pre-school kids can solve this puzzle less than 10 minutes. Can you beat them?

Background: Have you ever seen this puzzle before? I bet you have! So, I will not spoil the solution to crack this puzzle. Ha-ha! Sorry... This puzzle claims it can be solved by pre-school children in less than 10 minutes. Interesting, right? To make it more interesting and more fun, let's e...

code-golf

1

Q: Steps of Permutation

Write a function which takes a set of integers and prints every permutation of the set, and the swap performed in between each step Input a set of numbers, for example (0, 1, 2) Output the list of permutations and swaps in the format (set) (swap) (set) ... Test case Input: (0, 1, 2) Outpu...

code-golf math permutations

ColdGolf

@NathanMerrill Java and golfing don't mix.

Mast

@NathanMerrill I imagine Java is way too verbose for code-golf.

Simon Forsberg

Well, Java is not really very golf-ish. Groovy could possibly work though.

Nathan Merrill

6:33 PM

yeah, well, code-golf is one tag

trichoplax

@El'endiaStarman In python you could golf that down to x > y < x ;)

Nathan Merrill

we have like 5 or so other scoring tags

that Java is perfectly fine at

flawr

@SimonForsberg what an euphemism

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@El'endiaStarman true

ColdGolf

@NathanMerrill That's great.

Business Cat

6:33 PM

Yeah, I don't really get the hate for Java

Mast

@NathanMerrill So kick ass with those. Prove them wrong.

Nathan Merrill

right, but this chatroom still hates Java :)

Mast

If so, your chatroom tags should indicate that.

Nathan Merrill

oooh, we definitely need chatroom tags

flawr

@El'endiaStarman youtube.com/watch?v=1_-AVqJh-5Y

Nathan Merrill

6:35 PM

oooh, still off-topic? I'll come back later

Simon Forsberg

So, anyway, if anyone writes some somewhat BF code, let me know. Until then, see you around. I gotta get back to coding Java.

ColdGolf

@SimonForsberg Pyth.

Java can't golf.

Unless that's not what you're using it for..

In which case, Java rocks!

oooh, pretty

@Mast LOL

6:36 PM

Most of our rooms have tags.

ColdGolf

Not 19th byte..

No tags I can see.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ColdGolf

El'endia Starman

@ColdGolf Yeah, we needed more room for the starboard.

3

flawr

TIL you can bookmark conversations within a chatroom

trichoplax

6:42 PM

@NathanMerrill Java is perfectly good for competing against other Java competitors in code-golf too

Business Cat

Or against C#

Nathan Merrill

I actually disagree with that. As far as golfing goes, there really aren't that many "hacks" you can do to make a program shorter

FryAmTheEggman

^ This is pretty much why I don't golf in Java and instead golf in C :P

Nathan Merrill

aka, you make your class short, remove whitespace, and...

?

trichoplax

Depends if you want a language where the golfing is about incremental tricks, or one where it's just about getting the right algorithm

ColdGolf

6:46 PM

@NathanMerrill Make a 0-byte language?

And a wiki page on esolangs.org

Releasing Helium Nuclei

MetaGolfScript

trichoplax

You should read Meta. It's great...

3

Releasing Helium Nuclei

;_;

i told that to @ColdGolf

ColdGolf

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei

"Dennis+Doorkob" adds two values together

trichoplax

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei Didn't you get stars too??

ColdGolf

6:52 PM

@trichoplax So did you.

trichoplax

@ColdGolf It took me a few rereads to realise my statement was ambiguous. I meant it the other way to which you read it...

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Aug 4 at 22:43, by betseg

gimmeh dem starz

El'endia Starman

@LeakyNun I randomly decided to make a graphical representation of this:

At least, I think I coded it right.

Lynn

Huh, small world!! I know @SimonForsberg from the very first Internet community I was in.

zyabin101

Shower thought: Soon our programs can have a familyhood.

ColdGolf

6:56 PM

@zyabin101 sentient AI.

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

CMC Write a homocidal AI

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Aug 19 at 23:36, by Releasing Helium Nuclei

CMC: recreate the Machine (or Samaritan) from Person of Interest

Simon Forsberg

@Lynn And which one was that?

Business Cat

@βετѧΛєҫαγ VTC as malicious code

zyabin101

zyabin101: Hello example.com/.../a/123456, how are you doing?

Lynn

6:56 PM

@SimonForsberg The Rocks'n'Diamonds forums! Hi. I was — I think — nine years old, at the time, and I’m 20 now. How strange. :)

ColdGolf

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei AIScript, 0 bytes:

Can you see it?

trichoplax

@βετѧΛєҫαγ To destroy all humans or to destroy all AI??

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

All humans, of course

Simon Forsberg

@Lynn Lol! No way! What was your username there? Were you active?

zyabin101

Answer 123456: Hi, programmer! :-] I'm doing well.

ColdGolf

6:57 PM

@zyabin101 I've been writing such a bot, actually.

Lynn

I was sort of active. I was rockford4ever there. My English was embarrassingly bad. ;v;

zyabin101

Answer 123456: My lesser brother, Answer 109876, is first. And I'm proud of him.

ColdGolf

I could connect it here @zyabin101, but it's sloooow

Simon Forsberg

Oh, I think I remember that username :) Awesome. Nice to see you again @Lynn.

trichoplax

@βετѧΛєҫαγ I wasn't sure if the initial root was referring to humans or same kind. Thanks for clarifying :P

Lynn

6:58 PM

Likewise! :>

zyabin101

@ColdGolf Ah k <smile>

muddyfish

I DID IT!!!!

Simon Forsberg

@Lynn The Rocks'n'Diamonds forums is still alive btw, but I'm not there much. I think Holger is working on RnD every now and then, but is quite busy with wife and stuff. I actually met ~~Rockford~~ Holger and his family a few years ago when they passed by my town.

ColdGolf

@zyabin101 it's cleverbot API

trichoplax

@BusinessCat Good point - it would have to be carefully designed to work without damaging any equipment...

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