The Nineteenth Byte

12:38 AM

Hi, can you please give me your advice/comments about my question proposal? meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/1660/10619 Thanks

Rusher

@A.L Instead of a percentage, give an integer to avoid rounding errors.

@A.L Your example is wrong. It doesn't show the numeric input.

@A.L You have a rule that says upper case and lowercase are considered the same, but then you give another rule that says certain characters MUST be uppercase and all the rest MUST be lowercase. One of those rules probably could just be deleted.

Annnnnd he's gone. What a dork...

A.L

1:10 AM

An integer from 0 to 100 ?

I'm a dork? Thanks, I learned a new word. (I expected comments in the question, but that's ok here)

@Rusher : I'm editing the rules, thanks for your comments.

Rusher

@A.L I dunno. If you have a word that has 10 letters and you are allowed to change 99 of them, what does that look like? I think that's why it needs to be in the example so I can understand.

A.L

The idea is that if the first input is 50% and the input is 10 letters long, you can change 5 letters. But if the input is longer (say 25 letters), you can change 12 letters (because 13 letters must be unchanged)

@Rusher : I updated the answer, I corrected the ambiguity about percentage of homology/difference

Rusher

@A.L How did you turn Code Golf into CamOuFLaGED GOLDFinChEs? Code Golf is only 9 characters long, but CamOuFLaGED GOLDFinChEs is 23 characters long. That seems like more than a 100% change. Where did all of those extra characters come from?

A.L

1:25 AM

@Rusher : that's two strings, not one.

Rusher

So Code (the first string) was transformed into CamOuFLaGED?

A.L

No, I found similar letters in "Code Golf" and "CamOuFLaGED", and there is no transformation.

Rusher

Oooooh I see now

A.L

I looked at the definition of anagram to be sure: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anagram There is no transformation but a rearrangement of the letters.

Rusher

What is stopping me from just outputting the input? Would that satisfy the conditions?

A.L

1:29 AM

"a word or two as input and display anagrams from one word or two" Do this sentence seems unclear to you? I should rephrase it.

Rusher

Well, the words in your example aren't what we call anagrams in the US

A.L

Because of the space char?

Rusher

I honestly think it's just me that isn't getting it

You should ask someone else

A.L

From the Wikipedia page: "e.g. William Shakespeare = I am a weakish speller" (cited as not a strict anagram)

Or ""Dave Barry" = "Ray Adverb""

Rusher

I just don't understand what the 50 in 50 Codegolf is being used for.

If you explained step by step how you got from 50 Code golf to CamOuFLaGED GOLDFinChEs then maybe I would understand

A.L

1:32 AM

The main problem is that I didn't try yet to implement this, so this is mostly therorical, I can't give you a example of the expected output yet

50 = 50 % means that each result must contain at least half of the characters from the input

With 0 it can match any string

Rusher

Ah! I get it now!

A.L

With 100 you can't change any character, only rearrange them

I'm sorry it's clear in my head but hard to explain (especially because english is not my mother tongue)

Rusher

What you just said was very clear. I would write "The first input will be an integer n. Your output must contain at least n percent of the characters in the second input. n will be between 0 and 100, inclusive."

Did I get it right?

A.L

Yes, thanks. :)

Rusher

Do you ever get frustrated talking to people in a language that is not your native tongue?

A.L

1:39 AM

Frustrated is too strong, but yes sometimes it's difficult to express an idea. Like with this question.

Rusher

What is your native tongue? Mine is English. I'm learning Spanish with this software called Rosetta Stone.

A.L

French is my native tongue.

Rusher

@A.L Huitre est arrivé

Hello Doorknob

A.L

Oyster arrived?

Rusher

Uh oh. Google said that Doorknob was Huitre in French

I tried to say "Doorknob has arrived."

A.L

1:45 AM

Google is completely wrong. :) A doorknob is a "poignée de porte" google.fr/search?q=poign%C3%A9e+de+porte&tbm=isch

@Rusher: thanks for your comments, I updated the question again (using your sentence). I have to go now. See you

Rusher

See ya!

m.buettner

1:01 PM

okay I think vector racing is ready to go meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/1695/8478 ... I'm just absolutely baffled by how long the post got ... which will probably scare off a few people, unfortunately... if anyone could have a quick look if they think some part could be considerably be shortened, or is simply irrelevant, please let me know

@Rusher I stole a bit of the wording from your "deliverables" section ;)

ProgramFOX

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Rusher

@m.buettner No problem. I'd still be proud if everyone stole all my stuff on a website that only gives me fake points that I can't use.

m.buettner

great ^^

@Rusher would mind doing one more quick pass over the spec to see if it can be shortened?

Ventero

@m.buettner One thing that's unclear to me after reading your spec: In a situation like S#. (where S is the racer's current position), would a (2,0) move be acceptable?

Rusher

@m.buettner Sure

m.buettner

1:13 PM

@Ventero yes

that's why "land" is in italics in "if you land in a wall you lose"

in fact, there are several tracks where you can either shortcut by abusing that, or where you even need it to reach the goal

Ventero

Okay, that's what I thought. What threw me off was the "because you've hit a wall" later on.

Rusher

@m.buettner Uh... can I just rip stuff out and then you can do a side by side to see if I ripped out something you wanted to keep in and then put it back?

m.buettner

@Rusher sure, go ahead

Rusher

Alternatively, I can just comment here when I think I have shortened it by one line

Ok

m.buettner

@Ventero will clarify (unless Rusher does it in his editing spree) ;)

Ventero

1:15 PM

@m.buettner Awesome. I really like the idea of having the contestants provide new tracks!

m.buettner

@Ventero you can thank Peter Taylor for that meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/1702/8478

Rusher

Why does Dr. Pepper 10 have 20 calories? I feel duped.

m.buettner

@PeterTaylor I managed to come up with a track where driving around a loop lets you take a shortcut later on (which you can't take if you don't go through the loop). However, I'm not entirely convinced you can't also take the shortcut if you just go into the loop the wrong way round for a quarter turn, and then turn around there from rest. In any case, you need to take an initial detour to take the shortcut later on.

Rusher

@m.buettner I centered your pretty picture, but you aren't gonna like how I did it

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m.buettner

lovely :D

okay one more track and I've got 20

any ideas?

Rusher

1:26 PM

Are areas outside the track assumed to be wall or empty?

m.buettner

wall

there's a note on that somewhere

Rusher

Ok good. I can shorten some stuff then

m.buettner

ah in Input

might be better in The Track

Rusher

I'm swapping the track and the steering sections

m.buettner

although that section was supposed to be more theoretical, where the track (in theory) is infinitely large

Rusher

1:28 PM

Because you describe the map twice as an integer grid

m.buettner

that sounds like a good idea

oh I think I have an idea

Rusher

You really like bulleted lists lol

m.buettner

@Rusher lol, I do, they seemed to be better suited for laying out a series of hard facts/criteria. but feel free to turn some of them into paragraph

Rusher

I will, since the point is for me to rip out tons of stuff and for you to put it back. That way, you have to actually ask yourself "Does this need to be longer.

m.buettner

yeah that's good

I'd like a track where you're forced to jump over the goal first and then return to it later on, I think... I'll try to type one up quickly, and then I should really get back to work ^^

Rusher

1:35 PM

@m.buettner Speaking of work, I need to finish these bugtasks that I have. I submitted what I got. I got to the "Your task" section (so not very far lol)

I think I knocked off like 11 lines

And that was only the first like 15% of it lol

I was looking for words that dangled over the edge of a paragraph so that they hogged an entire line to themselves

See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widows_and_orphans

m.buettner

@Rusher yeah I actually already removed 2 of those or so. thanks for that, I guess I'll leave the rest as it is for now. if it can be shortened without losing information that can still happen when the question is on main

Rusher

That's true

I won't be offended btw if you undo it all or most of it

m.buettner

nah it looks good, I'm keeping it

posting now

posted!

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