@Szabolcs I prefer the old style. The most substantial change is the loss of the tutorials from the toolbar, which is a major inconvenience and not an improvement. I feel the Details thumbnail is trivial and wastes space, although I recall you liked it, at least initially.
@xslittlegrass You asked "Does anyone have experience with the control system framework in Mathematica?" There are some examples using control system in Mathematica with side-to-side comparison with Matlab and Maple at this link 12000.org/my_notes/mma_matlab_control/KERNEL/index.htm
@MichaelE2 I also think the details thumb was waste of space and actually confusing. There is a link to details just before the thumb which also sends one to details. If there is a need to let people know about the details., simply make the link itself use bigger and red fonts? or make the link to details flash 100 times per second :)
@MichaelE2 The Details thumbnail doesn't do anything for me (or for most of us in this chatroom), but I believe it will attract the attention of newcomers to the Details section. We get many questions here which can be immediately answered after looking under the Details section, and people often say that they never thought of looking there. It just doesn't look that interesting or relevant---until you actually open it.
@Szabolcs when I went to buy a domain name from the ISP, I wanted name that is easy. I did not know that one can use number for domain name! so I thought a number is easier to use than a name, as no spelling is needed when you tell someone, but I wanted a simple number, not like 34938394, but one with zeros and few digits. so I kept adding 100's and adding 100's but they were all taken. When I got to 12,000 it was free to I bought it :)
@xslittlegrass you are welcome. I spend a long time doing these pages. I think 2 years or so. Mathematica control is nice, since it allows symbolic much more easily than with Matlab. With Matlab control, it is pretty much all numerical. Very hard and clumsy to move control objects from numerical to syms there. But most engineering who use Matlab control, only care about numbers any way, not analytical stuff :)
@MichaelE2 Here's an example of someone repeatedly claiming that an option is not documentation because they just didn't open the "Details and options" section: mathematica.stackexchange.com/q/140955/12
@Szabolcs yes indeed! I started a new job back in October and have been kept so busy (and without a licence of Mma!) that I haven't been able to find much time/motivation to visit
Good to see that the site is in good shape and congratulations @Kuba on the moderatorship
@Szabolcs Industry. I quit my postdoc 1 year early leaving the project unfinished, which I wasn't entirely happy about. But on the other hand this is the perfect job for me, almost identical to what I was doing during my postdoc. So now I get to be a postdoc for the rest of my career! :)
@Kuba The v11.1 documentation stylesheet doesn't add the triangular expander buttons to sections anymore (for user-made doc pages). What do you think is the best way to fix this on my end? I can add the cell option to all cells manually, but that doesn't seem like the correct way. Can I use multiple stylesheets? Perhaps use an additional stylesheet to add these expanders while also keeping the builtin doc page stylesheet?
@OleksandrR. That sounds great! I don't know if I would be able to find an industry job like that. In fact I am looking for jobs at the moment ... still trying to get an academic one, but I might be open to industry too. Maybe.
@Szabolcs Good luck. For me it was just sheer luck that the right thing came along at (nearly) the right time, and it's even close to where I was before geographically. I'd already decided I wouldn't pursue an academic career after seeing too many of my friends subject to such career uncertainty as a resulty
@Kuba It seems that in the new doc pages, ShowGroupOpener is set to False in the stylesheet. The opener we see is in fact part of the cell contents, and its state (open or close indicated by the orientation of triangles) is managed through some Dynamic thingie.
@Kuba I figured it out. I don't need two stylesheets. I just need one, in which I set the necessary options. Then it has to reference the builtin doc stylesheet.
Here is another question:
After installing a new paclet (say, a new version of MaTeX), I often get this message when first opening the documentation:
Have you ever seen this? I cannot figure out what triggers it (most importantly: I cannot consistently reproduce it), but I worry that it is related to something I did in my documentation pages.
Do you have any ideas what I may try to be able to reproduce it consistently? In other words, what is it that runs only after installing a new paclet and then opening the docs?
@xzczd it's a good question! I don't know the answer though. This seems to go against my understanding of the function. Interestingly they only compare equal if the tolerance is 8 or more digits. This seems excessive. It could have something to do with the difference between e.g. SetPrecision[1.1, Infinity] and SetPrecision[1.1`2, Infinity]? I actually don't know how finite-precision numbers are stored internally
Is it possible to effective hide a cell with a stylesheet (cells of a given style)? It could be actual hiding, or just setting the vertical size to zero (or very small). I simply want to prevent it from taking up (much) vertical space. Try CellPrint@Cell[""]. That's too much space.
Hello, I have already installed VS 2017 along with Windows SDK But I am still getting this error, Compile::nogen: A library could not be generated from the compiled function.
I have check almost all the related posts (mostly by Szabolcs) but no luck
Any thoughts? what I am missing?
CreateLibrary::nocomp: A C compiler cannot be found on your system. Please consult the documentation to learn how to set up suitable compilers.
@MapleSE-Area51Proposal The command line tools I linked to are sufficient. You don't need the VS GUI if you are only going to use it with Mathematica. The workaround Oleksandr linked to should be good for any Mathematica version with VS2015 (but not with VS2017), even if they don't support VS2015 out of the box. But I think 11.0 does. 11.1 certainly does.
@Szabolcs I saw a similar earlier comment by you about the potential usefulness of the thumbnail. My feeling, however, is that it will make ε difference. From teaching undergraduates, I am quite familiar with a reluctance to read instructions. I'm skeptical of the image's ability to help. Change the title to "Details and Options (Click to Open/Close)" seems more direct and likely to succeed.
