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12:04 AM
@NasserM.Abbasi perhaps something got erased? you can check if it's downvotes and for which answer/question on your profile page (click on reputation, then select "post" below it)
 
12:41 AM
@NasserM.Abbasi You had answered a trivial localized question (voted -4) that was closed by 5 users and then deleted by 1 vote from a user and 1 vote by a moderator (me). So you lost a net of 7 upvotes * 10 + 15 accept = 85 points. (cc @MarkMcClure @acl). To recap (for those that can't see it), it was a question on how to import an image from a URL and the problem was that the OP hadn't used the URL of the image.
No one has downvoted you.
 
12:53 AM
The frequency of poor (closed) questions seems to be getting very high lately. Maybe its just me.
 
acl
@AndyRoss indeed, you are personally responsible for the influx of poor questions :)
seriously, it must be due to a traffic increase (has there been one? it seems like it). Maybe the site is getting more popular
 
@acl as soon as I typed that I knew such a comment was coming :)
 
acl
couldn't resist, sorry!
 
I was just trying to look at the number of users and traffic. Is there a good place to see these stats. I knew once upon a time that someone was keeping track of this but I've not been that active on meta and such and don't remember where to look.
 
@AndyRoss Not a great place, but interesting to check out: quantcast.com/mathematica.stackexchange.com
 
1:05 AM
@Szabolcs yes that last link is what I was remembering. Thanks!
Taking a risk of seeming completely stupid, what caused the huge spike on October 1st 2012?
 
I just wanted to ask the same thing. I was not here at that time.
When was the xkcd thing posted?
 
That's probably it.
 
@Szabolcs That's not updated anymore. I'm thinking of starting a quarterly update series on meta, to share the (sanitized) statistics with the community. Will probably make the first post for our 1 yr anniversary, which is in about a month
@AndyRoss xkcd
 
Wow, 1 year!
 
@rm-rf thanks. I thought so.
 
1:08 AM
@Szabolcs I know, right?
 
@rm-rf I see that was posted on the 1st of October. It got so many views already on the first day? It wasn't the WRI blog post that caused all those views (131434 today)?
 
@AndyRoss The shape of the curve is pretty much identical to what I see in the mod panel... the numbers are different thought, but that's expected.
 
I'm still wondering where this is going: wolfram.com/community
I thought it'd launch with Mma 9, but it didn't
 
@Szabolcs Yes, all those views in the first day... as usual, I posted it to reddit, where it exploded. And by exploded, I mean EXPLODED. Page view counts kept jumping by the thousands every time I'd refresh the page
Later in the day, another user shared it on HN, where it again took off and sustained the view count. By then, a million copy cats sprung up all over SO and TeX.SE, trying to recreate xkcd in R, MATLAB, Java, C#, python, you name it!
The 3 spikes that you see are (in order): my bagel question, the xkcd question and the mars rover question
 
@rm-rf classics we will tell our grandchildren about ;)
 
1:13 AM
Mars rover, I haven't seen that one. Let me read it
 
@acl We've had about 40% increase in traffic in the last 50-60 days
 
...in my day we didn't have neural implants and had to actually look stuff up and ask questions!
2
 
:)
 
@rm-rf Did you manage to find a floppy drive? ;-) I'm still waiting for my copy, hoping it'll arrive before the holiday
 
@rm-rf I'll be honest, I'm not sure what I'm looking at...
 
1:18 AM
@AndyRoss Leonid has recommended this book many times
 
@AndyRoss a book and a floppy... if you look closer, you'll also see part of a keyboard and the tip of a pen :)
 
@rm-rf I've really been asking for it today...
 
@Szabolcs I'm just going to ignore that floppy...
@AndyRoss :D
 
acl
@rm-rf an Apple wired keyboard, no less!
 
@acl I got tired of replacing batteries
 
acl
1:21 AM
@Szabolcs Others have also recommended that book and I tried to find it. No luck yet
@rm-rf me too so now I ended up with both...
 
Same with my trackpad... although my magic mouse retains power a lot (LOT) longer than my trackpad
 
How old is that book?
 
acl
@rm-rf both keyboard and trackpad seem to last for long enough for me.
 
@AndyRoss 1996
 
So you should probably also get a NeXT for nostalgic purposes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT
 
1:24 AM
I wonder how much the core language has changed since then. I remember some weird pattern matching behaviours have been cleaned up in 6, but I never really understood those dark corners anyway
 
Btw, this is the place where the community could ask whether there is any way of publishing the material in the book:
Maybe we should make some kind of community letter
 
@Szabolcs aside from new functionality the core language is probably pretty similar. That is not saying that it doesn't radically improve with each version. There is always active development going on at just about every level. I actually find these unadvertised enhancements, speedups and tweaks to be the biggest incentive to upgrade.
 
Or we ask Stephen Wolfram to buy the permissions for us ;-)
 
@AndyRoss Like the Pick optimization in 8---was it you who pointed it out? Are there any similar notable performance enhancements in 9?
This is one improvement I was wishing for: stackoverflow.com/questions/8700934/…
 
Hi!.. I have a website for students here in Brazil. I would like to know if I can use the StackExchange structure inside it. Someone knows? There is an API so I could install it in my server?
 
1:31 AM
@Szabolcs I know I pointed that one out (not sure if I was first). I don't have any definitive ones to point out off the top of my head beyond say big speedups in date handling.
 
@NasserM.Abbasi I just wanted to report this issue, but obviously restarting Mathematica helps. So the bug depends on 2 hours of in- and output. Those are the most fun to track down :-(
 
We developers pick up new tricks all the time just like users do so when we improve some code it is just natural to look over the code to find other places that might benefit from a new trick or realization.
 
@AndyRoss But you are not involved in the dev of WolframLibrary/MathLink, right?
 
@halirutan nope
@halirutan I mostly work on stats stuff.
 
@halirutan: I'm related to WL/ML development.
 
1:35 AM
@AndyRoss That's sad.
@jfklein13 Oh, haven't know that. I only know that Todd G is doing stuff like that.
 
There's quite a few people these days.
 
Can anyone explain this?
 
acl
@soandos does not happen on OS X
 
@jfklein13 Can you explain why Wolfram made now different types for the mint in WL and the Integer (in all MLPut, MLGet funcs) types in MathLink?
 
@acl does not happen all the time, but frequently
 
acl
1:39 AM
@soandos I see let me repeat a few times
tried a few times, didn't happen. how frequently?
 
Just happened again
 
I don't know why they are different, no. All I can say is that I don't often see development that mixes those.
 
@halirutan sad because you don't like stats or sad because it isn't any good?
 
@halirutan, I'll have to pick this up later, I'm shutting down to travel, but will try to see if there's anything I can help with, even if just for the future.
 
@AndyRoss Neither ;-) Because I have a WL related question
 
1:43 AM
Now two repeated primes
 
acl
@soandos strange
 
@jfklein13 Yes, do that. Maybe we meet another time in chat, than we can talk a bit.
 
@acl should I report it? (and if so, where?)
 
acl
I'd report it yes (maybe help->give feedback? don't really know)
that is where I report things
 
@soandos Yes, Help->Give feedback is the right place
 
1:45 AM
@halirutan got it, thanks
 
well, I'm going to go watch some Star Trek. Good talking with all of you.
 
@AndyRoss Next Generation?
 
Already made it through all of those. I'm going through all of the series on Netflix
I'm half way through voyager now.
 
acl
and I am off to continue with Quicksilver (highly recommended, third or fourth time I am reading it)
 
@AndyRoss Oh.. Give SevenOfNine a hug from me!
 
acl
1:47 AM
see you all
 
@halirutan if only :)
 
@soandos If you get a reply, do let us know what they said
 
@Szabolcs, will do
 
bye Andy
@soandos I don't see that problem in v9/OSX. I get Length@Union@RandomPrime[{2^2047, 2^2048}, 100] --> 100.
 
@Szabolcs no idea what is going on (I'm win 8) just know that at least in my case there is an issue
 
1:58 AM
@soandos What CPU do you have (just curious---sometimes these are hardware specific, not OS-specific)?
 
@Szabolcs Intel core i7, gen one
 
@soandos Same here Linux Length@Union@RandomPrime[{2^2047, 2^2048}, 100] --> 100
 
Very strange then (can't seem to reproduce with a new instance of mathematica)
 
@halirutan Did you switch to Linux recently?
@soandos Those kinds of bugs are the worst ...
 
@Szabolcs At home I have my Linux-desktop and my MacBook. In the office I have a MacPro.
 
2:03 AM
@Szabolcs I submitted the notebook with the issue, and if it shows up again, i'll keep track
 
oops, need to run, will miss the last bus
 
3:02 AM
MMA trivia, windows .exe size: version 4.1: 49 MB, version 5: 90 MB, version 6: 470 MB and version 9: 1,200 MB !
I think we can fit these values on an exponential curve?
 
I dun goofed.
 
3:19 AM
MMA 8 or 9; Insert menu; Table / Matrix item; "Draw lines between rows" produces nice input display ... now I want to draw lines dividing a 4x4 matrix into 4 2x2 matrices, but doing // FullForm or // InputForm on the output fo the above doesn't reveal clues... any clues from you-all :) ?
 
Ah, into 2x2
 
I want something like {{a,b,c,d},{e,f,g,h},{i,j,k,l},{m,n,o,p}} with lines ... yea
blocks :)
{{a,b},{c,d}} in upper left, lines below and to the right, etc
 
A way_
 
but not lines in between a and b, and not lines between a and c
 
Grid[Map[Grid,
Partition[{{a, b, c, d}, {e, f, g, h}, {i, j, k, l}, {m, n, o,
p}}, {2, 2}], {2}], Frame -> All]
 
3:21 AM
ahh ok lemme try
close ...
 
Humm
mm = {{a, b, c, d}, {e, f, g, h}, {i, j, k, l}, {m, n, o, p}};
specs = Range[1, Length@mm + 1, 2] -> True // Thread;
Grid[mm, Dividers -> {specs, specs}]
What about
 
that does it
thanks much :)
interesting that the UI produces inscrutible things in the notebook
 
No problem, but I-m sure there are better ways for that
 
first time i've encountered something that I could not break apart with native commands
oh yes, but you've broken the ice for me and i can study the ideas on my own :)
 
Glad to help :)
 
3:29 AM
I'm grateful for the many ideas i've gotten from you in my questions :)
 
Here's a better way
Grid[mm, Dividers -> {{{True, False}}, {{True, False}}}]
 
ooh there we go... very explicit
 
@Rojo, getting dividers in the right places in grid always confuses me.
 
here's how i build up pretty 2x2 blocks
script[c_] :=
Quiet@ToExpression[
"\\[Script" <> "Capital" <> ToUpperCase[ToString[c]] <> "]"]

double[c_] :=
Quiet@ToExpression[
"\\[DoubleStruck" <> "Capital" <> ToUpperCase[ToString[c]] <> "]"]

greek[c_] :=
Quiet@ToExpression[
ToString[c] /. {"a" -> \[Alpha], "b" -> \[Beta], "c" -> \[Gamma],
"d" -> \[Delta], "e" -> \[Epsilon], "f" -> \[Phi], "g" -> \[Chi],
"h" -> \[Eta], "i" -> \[Iota], "j" -> \[CurlyPhi],
"k" -> \[Kappa], "l" -> \[Lambda], "m" -> \[Mu], "n" -> \[Nu],
"o" -> \[Omicron], "p" -> \[Pi], "q" -> \[Theta], "r" -> \[Rho],
 
@NasserM.Abbasi Me too, and I do it often so I never go beyond the trial and error level
 
3:32 AM
Grid@{MatrixForm /@
{p = pv[a, b, c, d],
q = pv[x, y, z, w]}}
 
I like the latex tables more. Much easier to build. One puts the divisors as they write the code, not in the end.
\begin{tabular}{|||||| } and \hline \hline etc..
 
@Nass agreed Latex is cleaner ... my REAL deeper question has to do with the Insert menu, Table / Matrix item produces something in the notebook that I can't analyze with // <Foo>Form ... exposes my ignorance :)
 
@Rojo Hullo redskin
 
@belisarius Long time
You're from El Salvador now?
 
no see ya
:)
 
3:37 AM
Yes meh sah
 
@Rojo I'm at good airs now
no pupusas around
 
I use this function sometimes to make divisors easier:

(*-------------------------------------------------------------*)
(* Thanks to Heike @SO for this function for making grid line *)
(*-------------------------------------------------------------*)
myGrid[tab_, opts___] := Module[{divlocal, divglobal, pos},
(*extract option value of Dividers from opts to divglobal*)
(*default value is {False,False}*)

divglobal = (Dividers /. {opts}) /. Dividers -> {False, False};
(*transform divglobal so that it is in the form {colspecs,
 
Welcome back. You arrived the day of the storm, the the powercuts, the floods or the subway strike?
 
@Nass that's clever!
 
@NasserM.Abbasi That translates latex-like tables to mmas?
 
3:38 AM
@Rojo Hehe ... you forgot the toxic cloud
 
@Reb.Cabin Can't think of anything better now, but something along this might work:
 
That's right
 
With[{mat = RandomInteger[9, {4, 4}]},
 Grid[(MatrixForm /@ Partition[#, 2]) & /@
   Fold[Partition[#1, #2] &, Flatten@mat, {2, 4}], Frame -> All]
 ]
 
Haha
 
@rm-rf that's very nice, too!
@rm-rf
try with my pv[a,b,c,d] from above
 
3:40 AM
yeah, not bad at all for a frog
 
@Rojo, not exactly. please see this post stackoverflow.com/questions/8875970/…
 
@rm-rf you'll see that there is a slip -- it puts the second row of the upper-left 2x2 block on the upper row of the upper-right 2x2 ... your code scrambles my matrix a little ...
 
@Reb.Cabin Yes, I just noticed that... needs a little fix somewhere. Looking..
 
roger
 
@NasserM.Abbasi How does it deal with vertical divisors?
@rm-rf Does your code aim to do the same as
Grid[Map[MatrixForm, Partition[mat, {2, 2}], {2}], Frame -> All]
 
3:45 AM
@Reb.Cabin You just need to make it Transpose@Partition[#,2]
 
?
 
@Rojo Yeah, that's much simpler
 
@Rojo, this function by Heike allows one to add horizontal divisor at point the command is used (i.e. in place) so easier to control where to add the divisor. Grid other divisor options can still be used (i.e. for vertical)
 
I see
and how is the syntax in latex for both kinds of divisors?
How's "your ideal" syntax
 
@rm-rf & @rojo both solutions now working hazzah!
 
3:50 AM
@Rojo While reading the Clarin abroad I couldn't but remember this
 
For latex, one tells its where to put the vertical lines at using \begin{tabular}{| l |} at the start, then adds a horizontal line any time needed using \hline. i.e. between rows. if one does not need divisor, then do not write \hline there.
if you want vertical line evey other column, write \begin{tabular}{| c c | c c | } etc.. letter inside the || are for alignment
bye folks
 
@belisarius Hahaha
 
@Rojo At that time they couldn't imagine how much reality can overcome fiction
 
@belisarius and now the social network world has had the most incredible immediate reaction I have ever seen to a piece of news with that Marita Veron's verdict
 
@Rojo You can't expect the judges to act against their own business. They've put a big hammer in K hands to strike against the whole judicial system
 
4:01 AM
Is it appropriate to post a question about the mma software itself (rather than a "How do I do...?" in the main mma forum? If not, where should it be done?
 
@belisarius Yeah, I'd rather not jump to the island of conclusions, given their power in Tucuman, or I'd rather not admit I've already jumped
Gotta go now. See you around all
 
@Rojo Bye!
 
For example, I have found that the help documentation becomes unresponsive quite often in v9. I rarely had that problem in v8 and below, but it is very freq under v9. Wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same...
 
4:51 AM
@MikeHoneychurch I am hoping they would switch to a faster release cycle for major versions too ... one version every two years feels a little slow these days.
@MarkMcClure I was wondering myself. His profile says, "On an extended and much-needed hiatus from the StackExchange network."
 
5:24 AM
@JohnD on my Mac, Mathematica 9 seems more responsive. It doesn't seem to hang (spinning beach ball of death) as much, and help is much faster. Now there are still issues with bugginess of the code contained in the help documents...
 
5:46 AM
is there benefit to having wolfram alpha pro, if I have mathematica on my laptop? Does anyone find it more convenient, nicer, etc.? It's only 5 /mo, and I was thinking about taking the plunge but I also spent 2500 on Mathematica :-)
 
 
9 hours later…
2:40 PM
This one looks interesting:
2
Q: Mathematica not simplifying square root expressions even with assumptions

arkajadI have the following expression: expr=(Sqrt[2]r Sqrt[(4+r^2) (2+r (r+Sqrt[4+r^2]))])/(4+r (r+Sqrt[4+r^2])) Then FullSimplify[expr, r > 0] just returns the expression. However Plot[expr, {r, 0, 10}] shows that it is just r in disguise. Is there any way I can tell Mathematica to be sm...

 
Hmm... That does look interesting. Simplification is not my strong suit, though.
Anyone know if it is possible to incorporate an animation exported as SWF from mathematica into an answer on stackexchange?
 
@Szabolcs I think it is only interesting in the fact that the OP assumed that Mathematica could solve anything and gave up when he discovered it couldn't. But, that may be me just being cynical.
 
Hi @rcollyer
 
@MarkMcClure Hola. Have to get back to "major revisions" shortly.
 
It looks a little interesting to me, since I'm no good at algebra.
Major revisions on the thesis?
 
2:51 PM
@MarkMcClure yep. Need two signatures.
 
Wow two's not too many, I hope!
 
about half
 
Sounds right - I remember four on my committee.
 
two committee members refused to sign it, so I have about 3 weeks to overhaul the damn thing.
 
Uh-oh - I didn't realize that they were begrudging signatures!
Which side is the advisor on?
 
2:53 PM
@MarkMcClure its a tough simplification if you tackle it head on, but once you know it should simplify to $r$, then other avenues open up.
@MarkMcClure he's one of the two. :P
 
@rcollyer I don't often see expressions like this that can be simplified but it cannot do the simplification. Usually it turns out that the simplification doesn't hold for all values of the variable. But not in this case.
 
Which two??!!
Makes a big difference!
 
@MarkMcClure among the "refuse to sign" group. :P
 
Per the simplification, check this out: Series[expr, {r,0,10}]
@rcollyer My advice is to leave here and not come back for 3 weeks!!
 
@Szabolcs I didn't check where it held. But, as I said, once you know that it should be r, other avenues open up.
@MarkMcClure it was a quick stop ...
@MarkMcClure now that is an idea.
 
2:55 PM
The Series computation shows that it should be r and, as you say, then other possibilities open up.
 
Anyway. I should go, and get some writing done before the munchkin returns from shopping with Grandma.
Bye.
 
I don't see how to easily show that all series coefficients past the first one are zero, though.
 
@rcollyer Good luck!
 
@Szabolcs Do you know if it's possible to incorporate an SWF animation into a stackexchange answer?
 
@MarkMcClure I don't know, but I'm going to try now.
 
2:58 PM
Awesome. I don't even know how to try.
 
@MarkMcClure You could post that as an answer. It's an easier way to check than numerical computation.
 
The Series[expr, ..] thing?
I might -- but might think about it a bit more, first.
@Szabolcs I posted that as an answer with the addition that FullSimplify[expr^2] goes to r^2.
 
@MarkMcClure even Simplify[expr^2] does
 
Oh, I always pull out the big guns. :)
 
@MarkMcClure I didn't manage to embed it. You can link to it though ... Probably embedding is disabled because of security. What I tried was simply putting the embedding HTML in the post, but object tags seem to be disabled.
 
3:10 PM
@Szabolcs Yes, I can point to my webspace, which is what I'll probably do.
Thanks a bunch for looking into that, though!!
 
why not post it as a gif?
 
@rm-rf My intention is to improve the answer here: mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/16107/… which explicitly involves SWF.
 
Hello everybody.
 
3:12 PM
Hello
 
Hi Leonid
 
Hi 2!
 
Hello
 
@Szabolcs You can now play with my OO stuff, if you wish. It is here (fully created and updated by my versioning system from within M:))
@Szabolcs There is a Readme file there which outlines the installation. It is very simple.
 
@LeonidShifrin Appears to be misnamed. "Object-oriented" definitely. "Simple" - maybe not.
How fast is it?
 
3:16 PM
@MarkMcClure Well, it really provides just a basic OO functionality. Not really fast,alas. But should not be too slow, either - just a usual top-leveloverhead plus a bit of extra method call overhead due to method lookup
 
Sounds interesting. I do sometimes miss OO, but only very occassionally.
 
@MarkMcClure The main point is that I think one can easily combine it with the idiomatic MMa, since it has very few limitations
 
I see.
Do you have examples, in addition to the implementation?
 
@LeonidShifrin Looking at it now. (You have a high res screen)
@MarkMcClure Yes, in the notebook
 
@MarkMcClure Once I finished this (which was aby-product of something else I was doing), I looked at the classes.m by Roman Maeder (never studied that code carefully), and found that I used similar idea, but I was able to keep the nice pattern-based syntax,which I think is a big win
 
3:20 PM
I'll definitely take a look at this - in a few days!
Thanks
 
@MarkMcClure Yes, the example notebook, and also here is a non-trivial example, albeit not documented yet
 
Can anybody guess why I might have received a down vote on this: mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/16076/…
 
@MarkMcClure No clue (downvote). Some drive-by shooting?
 
@MarkMcClure fixed that for you. You get a +1 from me. :-)
 
Thanks!
@LeonidShifrin I don't know much about GitHub. Is that link you sent stable? Will it be there in a few weeks, say?
 
3:25 PM
This is really cool. I hadn't come across this picture editing stuff yet!
 
@EricBrown The new Image editing stuff is awesome!
 
I'm wondering if anyone has written a set of functions for video editing. I have a bunch of video that I would like to apply effects to. Since Mma. doesn't seem to support video with sound, I suppose it would have to rejoin them with ffmpeg or something.
 
It's probably too early for me to think clearly, but can someone tell me why I get different results here:
expr = Integrate[1/(k^2 - 4 π^2 x^2)^(p/2), x, Assumptions :> {p < 2, k > 0}]
expr /. x -> k/(2 π) - expr /. x -> 0
 
@MarkMcClure Well,my understanding is that the link is eternal, at least unless the owner (myself here) deletes the gist, or if Github goes out of business (unlikely:)). But I plan to soon complete the code exchange system for SE, and there we will also have a backup option, so anyone who publishes code will have an option to back it up, and the maintainers of the main repo (perhaps, several of us) could get everything on their machines. So, I hope that soon this will be no problem at all.
 
and Integrate[1/(k^2 - 4 π^2 x^2)^(p/2), {x, 0, k/(2 π)}, Assumptions :> {p < 2, k > 0}]
 
3:29 PM
@MarkMcClure Besides, I plan to later introduce another layer of indirection, so that the indentity of the project will be determined by its name etc,rather than by the url.
@rm-rf I've encontered similar problems before. My experience is that the indefinite integral followed by manual limit substitution is usually correct while the definite integral is often not (meaning some kind of a bug)
 
OK, I'm back. My wife got a bird and you can't imagine how much attention it demands
 
@LeonidShifrin nooooooooooooooo.com
 
Is there a platform independent way to open any file using the OS's built-in way (i.e. as if I opened it from the SO's file manager)?
 
@Szabolcs You should've thought of that before marrying ;) ... Oh, you mean the bird :D
 
@rm-rf Something wrong? Did I bring a bad news?
 
3:38 PM
@LeonidShifrin Yes, I'll have to think of the problem a bit if the indefinite is the correct answer. I don't think it is, because I have scribbled down in my notes a general formula based on hypergeometric functions that I got from a table and it is closer to the definite integral result... I unfortunately, didn't write down which table/reference (I never do that!). Now I've to hunt that ref down! grrrr
 
@rm-rf Test it numerically to be sure which one is right
 
@rm-rf Definite integration algorithms are totally different from indefinite. Definite integration issues often involve branch cuts in the complex plane. Dan Lichtblau knows a lot about this sort of think. I'd throw this question at him.
 
@LeonidShifrin That's what I'm doing now...
 
@rm-rf Then I can only wish you luck :)
@rm-rf But why don't you compute it by hand? it does not look that terrible to me
 
@rm-rf Of course, you ought to check the results anyway! I guess that's probably what you were doing by trying both approaches.
 
3:40 PM
Regarding my earlier question, it's SystemOpen.
 
You had a question?
Sorry :)
Too much going on.
 
@LeonidShifrin Really? To an arbitrary p/2 power too?
 
@rm-rf Yep. Should be a matter of 10-15 minutes for me, I guess, if not less. You can substitute x -> ix, then do the trig substitution, then it should reduce to a beta function
 
@rm-rf Which one is right for p=0?
 
3:43 PM
Or some other easy number, if p=0 doesn't make sense.
 
@Leonid It doesn't play so nicely with the suggestions bar (see above). I guess this is a suggestions bar bug.
 
@LeonidShifrin Ok, back to my notebook (I'll admit, I was lazy to try it by hand because I found it in a standard table... and because this is only a tangential item in the appendix)
 
@Szabolcs Oh, I see. I had some similar issue but I changed code a bit and it seemed to have gone away for me. It is related to the formatting rules for objects that I introduced.
 
@LeonidShifrin It looks like the formatting is not displayed correctly in the predictions bar. I'd say it's a prediction bar problem (bug), perhaps you can let WRI know about it.
 
@rm-rf Well, you don't have to do all the steps by hand, you can use Mathematica for each step, to do the substitutions etc - but not to compute the final integral
@Szabolcs How do I reproduce it? Did you find it on Mac or Windows?
 
3:47 PM
@LeonidShifrin Mac, just evaluating your example notebook. But the suggestions bar is learning what to suggest, it might suggest different things for you than me
It's right after an = Animal[{"oxygen", "fast"}]
 
I see. I will look into it when I get a chance to work on a Mac (soon, I hope). For the time being, I'll just modify OO so that the formatting can be switched off.
@Szabolcs but does this totally prevent you from getting something sensible out of the notebook?
 
@LeonidShifrin No it doesn't. I can ignore the predictions bar completely.
 
@Szabolcs Good. I also thought it should not affect much else.
 
And I really wish I knew why Safari is not beeping when someone addresses me... it's so annoying. Let me try another browser.
 
From numerical testing, the definite integral's result looks like it's correct. I'll do the long form later then. Thanks all :)
 
3:55 PM
@Szabolcs I forgot to address you in the message before the last one, though.
 
@Szabolcs The suggestions bar doesn't learn based on your usage... it's static and suggests the same things for the same kind of items
Rather, they've already used what they've learned from W|A queries. There is no active learning going on in your mma.
 
@rm-rf Can you try to ping me please, to test if it gives a sound in Firefox?
 
@Szabolcs
 
great
it beeps now
 
@rm-rf I think that your definite integral result is correct.
 
3:57 PM
@rm-rf Then this seems to be a non-typical case - at least for me, it usually worked the other way around. But I did not do any serious stuff with integrals for a while now.
 
@MarkMcClure That's what I found too:
3 mins ago, by rm -rf
From numerical testing, the definite integral's result looks like it's correct. I'll do the long form later then. Thanks all :)
 
Also analytically when p=-2.
 
@rm-rf so is it only the autocompletions that learn? are you sure?
 
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