-grin- we have Corporate IT who does desktops and servers, netowrks and phones. I'm in Systems, which does servers and networks in the data centers.

sounds redundant, no ?

@Criggie nah, sounds sensible. That way you don't have to deal with "I forgot my password. Just like every Monday", escalated from tech support because it's a manager.

I still recall at NAB making some poor sysadmin go through paperwork and faffing to red-button a server that I was having problems with. It was quite deliberately an ugly process, specifically to discourage programmers like me from using it as a regular part of our procedures. But we ran Windows, FFS, rebooting is SOP.

The problem turned out to be that someone had supplied us with a library that relied on being restarted every now and then, or it ran out of some kind of managed handle. Coz after all, why would you ever clean up handles, you can have billions of them. Enough, IIRC, for about 8 months.

MY server code, OTOH, sometimes runs for days and days before management demands that a new feature be made available immediately right now this second we promised the users why isn't it up don't worry about testing it will be fine.

yes I see the advantages, but the disadvantages are huge too.

they piss away money on a new phone system

and then give us a $15 gig unmnanaged desktop switch for more ports. Whereas they have 48 port gig POE cisco switches.

whinge

@Criggie we have some kind of generic 8 port $10 hub-switch-thing that someone picked up in a dumpster last week. Turns out that saturating a wifi router for the weekend made the dumpster part die in the arse. Not "power cycle it", but serious FoK, only the LEDs still work. We are trying to debug a wifi part, and saturating the link lets us do more cycles per hour...

Note that the accepted answer is once again one line plus a link... and the link is broken.

hehheeh yeah sometimes crap hardware is good

not always though

In this case, it appears to have been good for less than 60 hours of use. Still, ew have a receipt and someone will take it back. Hopefully this time they will not buy entirely on price.

Paying someone to take it back and get another one is way more than $10.

Depends if the second one is some other kamakooza POS.

I have a dirty affliction for decent kit, but its old by the time it gets to me

so my wireless at home is 6 cisco APs hanging off a cisco WLC, with POE from an old procurve switch at 100 Mbit

but the wireless is 802.11G at best (haven't got the one AP with an A radio to work yet :-\ )

that said, I'm still using a PDA with 802.11b wireless at best :)

Oh, we are grinding through embedded wifi hardware options ATM, hence the interest in how long they can run before needing a reset. Market is running about $2-$3 each, but up to $20 and working out whether we get any benefit from the extra cost is fun. "fun"

what about a watchdog reset that simply bounces the wireless every N minutes ?

or at 4:04 every morning ?

cheep switches almost always mix up their nat tables after a while

worse if you swap ports around

mac

or ARP table which contains MAC records, to be exact.

@Criggie it depends a lot on exactly that sort of reset is required. We can't power cycle the device that's using the wifi, so having to add a circuit that lets the device power cycle the wifi module would be one option, provided everything can recover from that. A huge PITA option, but an option.

We already have other subsystems that get power cycled, but that's because customers don't want to buy big enough batteries to power everything (and really, battery powering a module that lets them control mains powered devices ... during a power cut... doesn't make a lot of sense :)

@Criggie, yes, whoops

I'd like to do something with networks again

been a while

geting bored of android

one of the joys of a load bike is having somewhere to put the tools while you're working on it :)

Bike is now 3x9 with indexed shifters, rather than 1x9 with a friction thumbshifter. Both are very nice to have.

hehehe nice work

Likewise - I got my folder from 1x6 to 1x8

it goes a lot faster on 11 tooth than 14 tooth :)

fixed my electric windows today

i hate working on cars

alex: cars are awesome to fix... cos its so much cheaper than getting someone else to do it

I remember refurbing and greasing the electric winder in the other half's car

It was so much better afterwards - 20 year old grease doesn't work so good.

Right - sleep time

DST does a number on me

that's next, I just had the switches apart because they're stupid

but two of the windows are pretty sluggish

So, US presidential debates are tonight

ha

sure to be a mess

yeah

I can't imagine debating trump

im thinking of going to a college viewing of one and trolling the hillary supporters.

he'll just throw around accusations and retoric until everyone gets bored

The problem is that a lot of people are too stupid to get bored.

Unrelated, proof that bikecycle hate is a thing: boingboing.net/2016/09/26/bikes-shipped-in-boxes-with-tv.html

At least after Trump gets elected and dies of a massive angeryism, his hairpiece can carry on in his stead.

i dunno. part of it is that cyclists in general in america are dicks

Agreed - Certainly seems like that from a distance.

But US cyclists are probably a product of their environment.

a combative road space, where guns are permitted, and the law may side with either party, depending on the mood of the officer ?

@SuspendedUser I never thought of it like that.

@Criggie that's very likely true. One issue is that the "social interaction" between motorists and cyclists is subtly different from that between motorists. Specifically, "a quick toot" is "extremely loud aggressive noise" to the cyclist, and "I'll just push forward a bit" is "someone is threatening me with a deadly weapon". It's a dynamic that motorists who don't cycle just don't understand.

And cyclists can talk nicely

can't do that in a car

Though I note that there are cyclists who ride inside their own cone of silence, which is weird

Also, dare I say it, in the US you have the apartheid problem, where society is already well set up to other people to death. Adding cyclists to the list of "people who can and should be killed if they step out of line" is no big deal when the list is already so long.

@Criggie yeah. Even in Sydney and Melbourne where cycling rates peak at about 15% you get that whole "hey, bro, wait in the line like everyone else" if you push to the front at a red light. And so on...

like - head fixated straight forward, looking forward, never making eye contact with anything.

Thank fucking jesus we're not in the land of the "free"

@Criggie I do that sometimes when I'm feeling antisocial. Often after some lycra lout has lectured me on some point of etiquette that I have neglected. I'd rather not have those discussions... they tend to value social interaction and fitting in much more than I do, which makes 90% of their arguments miss the point. It gets tedious after the first few hundred times.

Someimtes people just want to say "cool bike"

@Criggie those are ok. It's the ones saying "you have an obligation to ride in a straight line at a consistent speed so I can follow dangerously close behind you", or "you must pull over so I can pass you, there's a UCI rule" or just "your bike is stupid and that means you are stupid", often with "reasons" that are not factual.

I have only one bike that is "normal" and that is more or less an accident - I got the lazy bike when I was riding too far to work and needed something easier to pedal.

But at least as often it's just some garrulous moron wanting to flap their jaw about stuff I would be happier not hearing about. Blah blah blah whatever, go away. I don't ride my bike so I can get more time with people.

heh - ride faster then

or ride really slow

Yay! Le Race is on my on-call week next year. Have to do a swap :-\

@Criggie I would rather not ride to meet the expectations or needs of others. I try to be polite and share the shared path, but there is a limit.

@Criggie you plan that far in advance? Wow. I only just booked xmas leave, now I have to see if I can get train tickets at xmas time. Otherwise it will be touring somewhere close by and unpopular with motorists. Hmm. I'm sure I can find somewhere.

I have learned that first in has priority.

@Criggie joy of a big workplace. We only get rules when there is a problem - we can't request leave more than a year in advance after someone put in 4 years worth of xmas leave requests. And we have to give 4x leave duration notice after a couple of us reacted to a work social event by putting in leave requests.

I would rather lose a days annual leave than sit through another afternoon of the boss's wife lecturing me about my dietary restrictions.

Which also means I wait until they announce the xmas social, THEN put my xmas leave request in.

-grin- yeah I sympathise. There's little desire to socialise with workmates when they're idiots.