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8:10 AM

Can a value type contain itself? If so, how?

Maybe a better way of wording it: How is it resolved where a value type contains a variable of a value type (such as itself) that contains a variable of a value type, etc. recursively?

ratchet freak

pointer/reference

otherwise compile error

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Stack Exchange

9:55 AM

Q: Project Reduplication of Deduplication - Software Engineering

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gnat

^^^ took me about an hour to complete annotation of their examples. Hint to reviewers: firmly say no at blatant non-dupes, these seem to be like "audits" used by their system to determine how much your judgement can be trusted

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Thomas Owens

1:03 PM

I'm using "related but not a dupe" and "no" far, far more than anything else. Did you find that, too, @gnat?

gnat

1:25 PM

@ThomasOwens I did a lot of "related" too. Wrt "no" it is really hard to tell because many of these are hard to remember, I recall it usually taking something like split second, when you see "of course no" just at a first glance and click and it goes away. I've been also using "really can't tell" quite generously, both when question topics felt obscure and when I had trouble deciding between "dupe" and "related"

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Aaron Hall

6:33 PM

@CandiedOrange So, did you learn any Python? :)

CandiedOrange

6:52 PM

Learning more everyday. It's a different world. Still getting used not expecting a semicolon at the end of a statement.

Aaron Hall

How did you find my Q&A, on a scale of 1-10?

CandiedOrange

Talking about the: keep your grunt mits off the underacored post?

Aaron Hall

7:09 PM

underacored?

_thoughts?

CandiedOrange

Your angling to get me link it aren't you? Fine.

CandiedOrange

7:27 PM

Thought the semantically private bit was obvious. But haters gonna hate.

Aaron Hall

7:41 PM

I'm thinking, in the context of Python (which has no "private" keyword) non-public API's are "private" - even if they don't invoke name-mangling (an idiosyncracy that I avoid).

CandiedOrange

I'll take any signaling of intent. Encapsulation is not about enforcement. It's about letting people know the difference between the front door and the back door.

Aaron Hall

Well put.

Aaron Hall

8:46 PM

Oct 15 at 10:09, by amon

(1) If Python has a feature, it isn't necessarily good. E.g. its particular flavour of multiple inheritance has quite problematic aspects.

@amon sorry I let you get away with that before - do pls explain the problematic aspects of Python's multiple inheritance...

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Aaron Hall

10:15 PM

I think I found my scientists - they created simula from algol. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simula

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jrh

huh, so there /is/ a conference on OOP, I wonder if they have publications...

Aaron Hall

like Communications of the ACM?

jrh

yeah, something like that

Aaron Hall

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gotta go! Cheers! :)

jrh

see you later

neat, they do have publications splashcon.org/2013/program/oopsla-research-papers

Duga

10:56 PM

Good question but I fear it will be closed as off-topic. Maybe Programmers stack exchange is better for this, in case that does happen. softwareengineering.stackexchange.com <-- seems the URL of Programmers SE changed? But I think that's it. — mmcrae 28 secs ago

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