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user114359

12:10 AM

So, whiskey happened this evening.

André

I'm with flu, just cough syrups for me, sadly

user55340

@André there are some pretty good cough syrups out there...

André

nods My mom used to give it when I was sick or with a stomachache

user114359

@MichaelT I remember in my younger years drinking so much of that stuff I "coughed" it back up

user55340

@Snowman everyone has that one liquor.

user114359

12:16 AM

user114359

^^^ epic win

user55340

Trivia: why is it in square bottles?

user20683

@MichaelT the bin packing problem

André

dunno

user114359

@MichaelT I can drink it now no problem, but it used to be so bad if I smelled liquorice or anise I would want to vomit.

user20683

12:17 AM

user55340

@WorldEngineer yep. And able to secure them more easily during shipping. Big issue when shipping = horse and boat

user114359

Trivia: is it produced in a dry county of Tennessee?

user55340

Trivia: What was the first liquor made in the US that was completely owned by an american company? (note: many early distilleries where actually english owned)

André

@WorldEngineer I used to drive those features

user114359

@MichaelT I'm going out on a limb... Skyy?

user55340

12:19 AM

@Snowman think early America...

user20683

@MichaelT it would be rum probably

user55340

> SKYY vodka was originally sold by SKYY Spirits LLC, established in 1992 by Maurice Kanbar.

user114359

before or after 1776?

user55340

(no, not Skyy)

user114359

bah, 1992...

user114359

12:20 AM

I have underwear older than that

user55340

Southern Comfort

Southern Comfort is an American liqueur made from neutral spirits with fruit, spice and whiskey flavoring. The brand was originally created by bartender Martin Wilkes Heron in New Orleans in 1874, and is now owned by the Brown-Forman Corporation. In the US Southern Comfort is available as 100 US proof (50% alcohol by volume), 70 US proof (35% alcohol by volume) and 42 US proof (21% alcohol by volume). Southern Comfort Special Reserve, found in duty-free shops, is a blend of Southern Comfort and bourbon, and is 80 US proof (40% alcohol by volume). Southern Comfort Lime, released in the Summer of...

user20683

@MichaelT that recent?

user114359

That is an interesting question (and answer) because the U.S. didn't exist until 1776 (or 1779, or 1789 depending on your definition of "exist")

user55340

@WorldEngineer much of it was english owned.

user114359

I was going to guess a Kentucky bourbon or Tennessee whiskey

user55340

12:22 AM

Jack Daniel's

Jack Daniel's is a brand of Tennessee whiskey and the highest selling American whiskey in the world. It is produced in Lynchburg, Tennessee, by the Jack Daniel Distillery, which has been owned by the Brown-Forman Corporation since 1956. Despite being the location of a major operational distillery, Jack Daniel's home county of Moore is a dry county, so the product is not available for consumption at stores or restaurants within the county. The product meets the regulatory criteria for classification as a straight bourbon, though the company disavows this classification and markets it simply ...

user55340

1875

user20683

Jim Beam 1795

user20683

technically I guess you could say it was German owned

user20683

and it's not US owned at present

user114359

@MichaelT I can't find the link, but the "dry"ness went away for a year or two not too long ago and came back

user114359

12:24 AM

Jim Beam is interesting because they own like 75% of all Kentucky bourbons

user114359

They bought up a lot of distilleries after prohibition ended

user55340

Hmm... difficulty tracking down the quote in the book (its not in google books - so can't dig in there) and the early company ownership.

user55340

> Jeremiah Beam eventually gained full ownership and opened a second distillery near Boston, Kentucky, in 1954. Jeremiah later teamed up with childhood friend Jimberlain Joseph Quinn, to expand the enterprise.

user55340

That implies not completely owned previously - but not by who.

user55340

Although other bits suggest family business which would imply completely owned by the family.

user55340

1:31 AM

A ha! I remember the question and the distinction. It was "What is the oldest American liqueur" not liquor.

André

1:59 AM

Gawd, I'm trying to do a mvn release:prepare but I'm failing so hard to push the generated tag to git. It doesn't generate a valid git push command

André

2:49 AM

There was some implicit SSH key setup

durron597

4:11 AM

dogfooding?

> "In the language of your choice, could you write a the body of the function that takes in input a integer and return its string representation.
For instance in C#, the prototype of the method could be something like public string itoa(int n)"

And unfortunately, until now, 100% of the candidates have failed...

Wow.

André

4:31 AM

Ah, finally I have my first opensource work on maven central, I feel a bit accomplished today. On a side note, avoid mvn release:clean release:prepare release:perform like plague, mvn clean deploy work as intented

detly

5:17 AM

Hey, I dimly remember a question about avoiding repeating your code in web apps (eg. code for rendering table rows appearing in the page template and the page JS for handling dynamic updates) - but I can't find it. Is there any chance anyone here knows the question I'm talking about?

I don't think it was specific to a language

ratchet freak

9:15 AM

4

Q: Duplication of code (backend and javascript - knockout)

We have a new developer on our team. He seems to be a smart guy (he just came in so I cannot really judge). He started with implementing some small enhancements on the project (MVC3 web application using Javascript with jQuery and Knockout). Let's say we have two values: A - quite complex calcu...

various more examples on this search: programmers.stackexchange.com/search?q=web+code+duplication

Duga

10:55 AM

This question may be better suited for Programmers Stack Exchange. — Dzienny 44 secs ago

Duga

11:55 AM

@Five , you are gonna get some negative vote for this type of question. Stack Overflow is aimed at actual "CODE ERRORS" , and solving them. Your question is a better fit for programmers.stackexchange.com . — Louis van Tonder 37 secs ago

Duga

12:38 PM

Do you have a job lined up in a particular language? Learn that. Do you see well paid jobs in your area in a particular language? Learn that. Otherwise you can't get better advice than from SO's own Joel Spolsky in this answer (also this has been asked tons of times on programmers.stackexchange.com). Once you've decided on a language you should definitely come back to this site to ask questions about it — Andy Brown 40 secs ago

user55340

3:54 PM

We need empty street western movie soundtrack playing.

user15026

4:04 PM

Are people off today because July 4th is tomorrow?

André

oh that's right

user55340

Well, it's a floating holiday for me. Office is open but 2/3 the staff are taking vacation.

user15026

4:25 PM

What do you mean by floating holiday?

user55340

I have 8h of holiday credit that I can take at any time before June 30 2016.

user55340

define: floating holiday

user55340

Meh.

user55340

> 1.
a public holiday that does not fall on the same numeric date each year, such as the US Thanksgiving, which always falls on the fourth Thursday of November.
2.
a paid day off from work, given as a substitution for a public holiday and typically taken on a day chosen by the employee.

user55340

I get the Fourth of July off - but since it's on Saturday and the office is open today, I can chose when to take it.

user55340

4:29 PM

I just have to use it first. Before I take vacation or personal days.

user114359

4:44 PM

@AshleyNunn Today is the observation of Independence Day. It is a paid holiday for me.

user114359

Also, we have official permission to call gnat dumb now:

user114359

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A: Are we using "Unclear what you are asking" correctly?

Call me dumb if you wish but I really don't understand what is writen in the question: What is the meaning of manage c++? -- Just want to ask what is the meaning of manage c++?. Follow up question, how does it differ from c++? As for comments referring to some place elsewhere which could he...

user114359

Except I can't, because I agree 100% with his answer.

user15026

5:01 PM

@Snowman Ah, that explains the quiet.

user15026

@MichaelT That makes sense :)

user114359

Today is a holiday and my wife is out for the afternoon. Nice and quiet and relaxing.

user114359

I just got done trolling some anti-vaccine Facebook groups, now I'm going to do some programming.

user114359

I am making this a better world, one step at a time.

user15026

I am working :(

user15026

5:11 PM

Because I had my holiday on Wednesday because Canada.

user114359

I thought you were living in the U.S. with WorldEngineer?

user15026

@Snowman Nope, he's in America, I am in Canada

Jimmy Hoffa

6:06 PM

@Snowman calling @gnat dumb seems like a spectacular way to find out just how active a participant he is.... You play a dangerous game Mr. Snowman

user114359

@JimmyHoffa except that I haven't called anybody dumb, certainly not gnat, despite him telling us to call him that if we wish.

user114359

Although I have to admit, functional programming is pretty dumb. Especially Haskell.

user55340

7:05 PM

Whee! Maven acceptance! Full steam ahead!

André

@MichaelT you're going to use Maven at workplace now?

user114359

Maven works great except when it doesn't.

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user55340

I was explaining maven to a dev on another team (I just converted a war and ear to maven) and another dev on that team came over and said "you got maven working? Ok, we need to convert all our old projects now"

user55340

So now we've got it working with proponents on two dev teams. Just a matter of conversion. Oh, and another curious on yet another team.

user55340

One thing that I like is that it makes it feasible for me to do things like include mockito as a dependency to do better testing.

André

7:13 PM

Maven spreads like wildfire

I converted all legacy code here to Maven

no more jar dependency hell

everyone can build the application, life is good

user55340

8:51 PM

-2

Q: What parts of a developer's job can be automated

As a data analyst working with Big data, statistical analysis using SAS/R, what parts of the typical developer's day to day job can be automated?

data automation big-data automatic-programming

user55340

Send a bobble head to the meetings.

user15026

9:03 PM

@MichaelT That would be an odd experience, yes.

MetaFight

9:24 PM

@AshleyNunn what part of Canada are you from again?

user15026

Southern Ontario - Kitchener specifically. (About an hour from Toronto)

MetaFight

cool. It's odd how bumping into Canadians always makes me smile (I'm a Canadian living in the UK).

user15026

@MetaFight Neat :)

MetaFight

and on the internet I always just assume everyone is either from the US or the UK.

so it's nice to bump into Canadians on here :)

user15026

@MetaFight Same, so I get kinda excited when I find fellow Canadians in my favourite internet places.

MetaFight

9:27 PM

:)

user15026

What part of Canada are you from originally, if I may ask?

MetaFight

I grew up in New-Brunswick and did my teenage/young adult stint in Newfoundland.

user15026

Nice :)

MetaFight

Then I lived in Montreal for about 3 years before moving to the UK.

I worked a Summer in Ottawa and really liked it. I always told myself I'd try to live there for a few years.

user15026

I grew up in a tiny town a half hour from Kitchener (country rural town with a cattle farm in the middle of it) til I was 20 something, then the last 7ish years I've been in Kitchener. :)

MetaFight

9:30 PM

Well, not Ottawa specifically. But Ontario.

How big is Kitchener again?

I know of Kitchener because it seemed like 75% of all the letters sent in to YTV were from there :)

user15026

230,000 ish people? Something like that. More if you stick Waterloo in there (they're techincally two cities)

user55340

10:30 PM

WTF?!

user55340

That's not small.

user55340

My teeth hurt just standing here

Telastyn

11:01 PM

urgh, tracking down why reference types that have the same data aren't equal is the worst.

Jimmy Hoffa

11:17 PM

@MichaelT who didn't love these..

@Telastyn ...because nobody overrode the == operator on the object?

Telastyn

well, I didn't, because it shouldn't have value semantics, it should have reference semantics.

but I should also not be making duplicate objects

Jimmy Hoffa

ah... ctrl+k,ctrl+r is the shortcut for find all references. Start walking the call stack up until you find the path that executes ctor twice... or just put a static instance counter in the class and a breakpoint on the ctor

Telastyn

yeh. weren't so helpful. Ended up having to set strategic breakpoints and do a bunch o' quickwatches to see when the two differed

turns out they always differed, since the source of the one wasn't the other, it was some temporary that I was using to double check ambiguity...

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