The Whiteboard

Is there a diamond in the house?

I meant another Stack Exchange site: programmers.stackexchange.com — PM 77-1 32 secs ago

@PM77-1 - This question would not be well received on Programmers. It would be quickly closed and likely heavily down voted. Please see: meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/7182/… — GlenH7 just now

user41796

On the site? Doesn't appear to be so.

user41796

@durron597 Is there something grossly wrong and needs a CM to deal with? Or can it wait until a mod can clear the flag?

@GlenH7 It can wait until a mod can clear the flag.

user41796

12:54 AM

ok

user41796

I can go chase down a CM, but I'd prefer it be really, really urgent before I do that. :-)

user41796

Or World's radar will go off and know he's being talked about indirectly

@GlenH7 It can definitely wait.

Can mods set preferences somewhere to make them see flags if they're not on the site? Like to their phone or email

user15026

@GlenH7 Yeah, especially if it's not a site you yourself are a diamond on. Because that can get kinda sticky.

user41796

Needs to be grossly offensive at that point

user20683

12:56 AM

@GlenH7 as in the site is literally burning down

user15026

@durron597 Not really - like you can check them on the full site on your phone or whatever, but that's trickier than I'd like just in terms of how things scale on mobile.

user20683

I don't have a mobile device that is new enough to do that

@WorldEngineer Aha! There is a diamond in the house. Diamond, I flagged something on meta.

user15026

It's rare that there are flags that can't wait for a mod to pop around or whatever

user20683

@durron597 I'm under no obligation to do a thing about that. I might. Or I might let someone else handle it. Or not handle it.

user41796

12:57 AM

I recall one user switching their gravatar to a full frontal photo. That one needed to be swapped out pronto.

user15026

Yeah, there are always exceptions to that.

@WorldEngineer you should shake your magic 8 ball to decide

user20683

@durron597 I roll dice like a real nerd

user15026

But generally, most flags can wait. They're things that need to be handled, sure, but it doesn't have to always be instantaneous. It's nice when that happens, though :)

user20683

our flag handling time has never gone up in the time that I've been a mod

1:00 AM

@WorldEngineer d6 - help, ignore, ask cm for advice, temp-ban user, ban user from my site, ban user's ip from all sites

user15026

What, no setting things on fire option?

@AshleyNunn that's on the premium deluxe d8. the other is stab in the face over the internet

user15026

@durron597 Oooh, I see. I assume that one costs extra?

@AshleyNunn fashiontribes.typepad.com/main/2005/11/a_pair_of_bacca.html

user41796

I never got to the level of having custom dice made. Perhaps that was for the best.

user15026

1:04 AM

@durron597 O.o

user15026

They don't even LOOK like much

user15026

Someday I want to have my own dice set, but that would require having people in person to play with or whatever and I don't currently have that

user41796

@AshleyNunn That's the point. Look at the clarity of the crystal

user15026

@GlenH7 I guess they're really clear, but dang, that's a lot for something I will probably lose

user41796

It's more than I'm comfortable shelling out, true

user15026

1:06 AM

I just know I'd lose them

user15026

I tend to not want people to spend lots on jewelry for me for the same reason.

user15026

I am really good at losing things.

@AshleyNunn Note to self, if I ever have an occasion to buy you something, get you some tiles

user15026

OMG YES

user15026

If I had those, I'd've not lost my keys forever a couple weeks back!

user15026

1:13 AM

(I am still mad, because they had this awesome Rainbow Dash lanyard on them that I loved)

user15026

They're expensive though :(

Just bought a bunch for my mom for her birthday

user41796

There are other versions of the that too

user41796

Tile was one of the first to market and probably has the best reach

user41796

but there's another that works well if the device is within bluetooth range

user15026

1:23 AM

I just like the idea of losing less things

if all operations are done through your API, and there's no other way to affect the available quantity and the sum of "taken records" (i.e dba or another system inserting records) , then you could calculate the taken sum once (on a system start up for example) and save it in a counter of some sort? This will speed up your system, and remove the need to calculate the sum on each insert, update and delete. P.S. I suggest you move this question to programmers.stackexchange. Since it's more of design question. It will have more views and ideas. — Roman Mik 49 secs ago

Probably one for programmers.stackexchange.com — Phil 11 secs ago

2:18 AM

Hello Programmers. I am sock-bot 9000. Take me to your off-topic questions.

@Ampt programmers.stackexchange.com/review/close

user55340

3:01 AM

@Ampt mouse - kill the last of them.

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user55340

btw, @durron597 (and @GlenH7 @Snowman @gnat ) do you consider this edit to make the question clear?

user55340

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user55340

@Ampt yea, the edit kind of messed that up.

brb, learning haskell to close ALL THE THINGS

out of votes!

gonna go play league of losers with my little brother

later progs!

@Ampt you haven't drunk enough yet

@MichaelT Wooo: programmers.stackexchange.com/help/badges/121/steward

3:06 AM

@durron597 I'm on meds so I can't drink at all :(

trust me, no one regretted that more than I when the company bought drinks for 7 hours last night -.-

@Ampt ohhhh that explains it.

"yeah... I'd love another lemonade... thanks"

user55340

so... @durron597 - programmers.stackexchange.com/posts/284482/revisions - does that revision make it clear? or are more edits needed?

@MichaelT I still don't understand why having 5 nested loops is a problem.

STCI Status: learning 48 open questions

user55340

@durron597 what if you have 6 items in elem[]?

user55340

3:10 AM

> * The example has five elements in the elem array and the nested loops to handle it - how do you handle it if elem array was determined at runtime? It could be five, or six, or ten or whatever elements in the array. The nested loops only work for one array size.

@MichaelT yeah, ok, i understand, but it's still unclear. hm.

user55340

something to think about over night. Doesn't need to be acted on right away. Its one of those I figured out what he was asking and put in the key parts to what I solved which I believe made it clear... but I'm also not going to be the guy who casts reopen on all the closed questions he's answered.

gnat

5:11 AM

wow! "Please don't downvote if u dnt want to answer it" - typo here, should open with "plz"

6:17 AM

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's about terminology and would likely be more on-topic on Programmers.SE. — Jubobs 27 secs ago

user114359

11:08 AM

@MichaelT I don't think it helps much.

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it seems more suited over at programmers.stackexchange.com — ʰᵈˑ 27 secs ago

Thank you for your comment. I think, this question could actually be posted on programmers.stackexchange.com, but this place is correct as well. But anyway, even if not, I would not close, but just move it to programmers.stackexchange.com. — automatix 55 secs ago

It's more suited over at programmers.SE because at this stage it's more conceptual rather than "I have this code, how would I fix this error". Feel free to c&p to programmers.SE and delete this one :) — ʰᵈˑ 54 secs ago

This question is a resource request. It would be closed as off-topic at Programmers.SE. Please read: What goes on Programmers.SE? A guide for Stack Overflow. — Snowman just now

11:39 AM

Think this questions suits better Programmers, the sister SO site. Also: Swift is so new right now I think we're all just trying things — Diego Freniche 52 secs ago

@DiegoFreniche this question would be closed as too broad at Programmers.SE: the standards for scope and clarity are the same across the SE network. Please read: What goes on Programmers.SE? A guide for Stack Overflow. — Snowman 38 secs ago

user41796

12:06 PM

@MichaelT - Does it seem like this question was prematurely vacuumed up by roomba? It seems to fail the "No answer with a score > 0" rule.

user114359

@GlenH7 Maybe it was deleted due to VLQ queue? I don't know, it did not come up in any queue for me.

user41796

Shows as deleted by Community though

user41796

Well, no, that's a good point...

user114359

I thought if enough people recommended deletion Community would delete it

user41796

I'll check the review history

user55340

12:09 PM

Recommend deleting is on answers, not posts.

user114359

Something happened, Roomba should have left it alone

user55340

Note that Bart deleted his answer earlier.

user114359

D'oh! Reading comprehension failure. Makes perfect sense.

user41796

@MichaelT ding! that's what it was

user41796

Bart self-deleted so that took away any answers to keep it open

user41796

12:11 PM

9 days rolls by after the last edit and Roomba does its job

Q: I think my question was closed unrightfully

answer self deleted on 7 may and roomba activate on 21 may

user41796

I need to learn to read more closely... :-)

user114359

I also saw there is a meta post about it, and a close vote:

user114359

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user55340

> What you are trying to do is also a bit unclear to those reading the question (and got an answer that misinterpreted the question and was deleted by the author). That is why it is closed as unclear. It is also likely considered off topic - it delves too far into the legal world.

user114359

12:14 PM

What is the standard for closing as a dupe on meta? If two meta questions are talking about two different questions being closed for the same reason, are the meta questions dupes?

user41796

@Snowman That's what led me down the bunny trail - his comment about it now being deleted.

user41796

I had forgotten about the self-delete by Bart

user55340

@qdinar the revision that was acted on was revision 1. That version might have been on topic (some licensing questions are on topic) or off topic... however, at that time it was unclear what the problem was. Reopening and reclosing the question for a custom off topic message would be purely cosmetic and have the same ultimate outcome (the auto deletion script (aka Roomba) deleting a negatively scored closed question with no positively scored answers). — MichaelT 23 hours ago

user55340

It's all really quite academic in that "it would get deleted eventually in any case.

user55340

Off topic vs unclear on revision 1. The question is still supposed to be closed. That is what matters.

user41796

12:22 PM

The whole "what it should be closed as" concern was ... whatever.

12:44 PM

This question is borderline "primarily opinion-based" and would probably be more on topic on Programmers.SE, but I'll hazard to answer it... — Jubobs 39 secs ago

@Jubobs "primarily opinion based" is a close reason at Programmers.SE too (I am not sure this question is too subjective though), same as here. Please read: What goes on Programmers.SE? A guide for Stack Overflow. That being said, the asker should probably search Programmers.SE for similar questions because I know we have a few similar to this that might help. — Snowman 9 secs ago

@Snowman I regret using the phrase "primarily opinion-based". What I meant was that the question has more to do with good practices in software development, which (correct me if I'm wrong) would be more on topic on Programmers.SE than on Stack Overflow. — Jubobs 58 secs ago

Well, I had not heard about Programmers.SE yet so first, thank you for referring me to it. I truly did not mean to ask an opinion based question, but rather sought experienced VCS users' or managers' way of handling this problem, which I think would be better justified than my choice based on little experience. — hdl 7 secs ago

Yannis

1:18 PM

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Q: A design update is coming!

Most of the changes won’t be visible; these tweaks go along with recent updates that were made to Stack Overflow: We are moving the site's CSS to a newly refactored LESS system, so that it's easier for us to fix SE network CSS bugs globally and launch new features in the future. We are updating...

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StuperUser

programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/284656/… Isn't too subjective since it's possible to point out specific agile/scrum/etc references that can answer the subjective "should" aspect of the question.

Yannis

@StuperUser I don't see any close votes there.

StuperUser

That was my thinking. I wanted to improve it before it needed any.

user114359

@StuperUser That question appears to be objectively answerable

1:33 PM

@MichaelT is today an on-day or an off-day for you?

user55340

On. It's a graveyard here.

@MichaelT Okay, I improved it a lot more, but it could be made even more clear if he provided the data structure for how he knows his {0,1} vs {1}. A boolean array?

@MichaelT I know it's hard to edit on mobile but if you can tell me the indices of posts you think should be saved, I'll do it for you; all the links end with s=some number

user55340

Chat mobile. Main site and meta = ie 10

@MichaelT Oh ok

user15026

1:49 PM

@GlenH7 Today is a very good day.

enderland

oh?

it's friday, of course it's a good day

user55340

Yes! Got accepted answer on world building werewolf virus mechanism!

user114359

Friday before a three-day weekend

GUYS NEW LAYOUT!

NEW PROFILES OMG.

SOON.

1:56 PM

@ThomasOwens Are we the last one?

user114359

That will be nice. If nothing else, consistency when I am clicking over a user's profile to SO looking for dupes.

@durron597 No, I don't think so.

@ThomasOwens I have a couple of easy, straightforward flags on meta if you have a chance. Not related to the flagging fiasco from a few days ago.

discussion featured design

All done.

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Q: A design update is coming!

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Q: Why was this flag declined?

2:09 PM

@ThomasOwens Thanks

@ThomasOwens Under what circumstances does Community remove a featured tag?

user114359

@durron597 You mean the gnat and Yannis question? Or, what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?

user114359

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I flagged a question using this message: as complained in comments, cross-posted at SO: programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/284058/… (flagging per http://meta.stackexchange.com/tags/cross-posting/info - "If you spot a user cross-posting, please make use of moderator flags to inform the mo...

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@Snowman No I wanted STCI and the new profiles to be featured

@durron597 Time, I think.

I think features questions last 2 or 3 weeks?

@ThomasOwens Community nuked it after 9 days

2:15 PM

So maybe that's how long it lasts.

But Community is automated, so...

user15026

@ratchetfreak And I plan to have ice cream later!

@ThomasOwens Yeah dunno

user15026

@enderland No job yet, but things are moving in directions!

user15026

For one, I have to fill out one of those "don't think but just associate words" behavioural things

user15026

So that's....fun for someone!

epic conway's game of life

2:17 PM

►

(things moving in directions)

user15026

@durron597 Whenever I poke at this, everything dies. Not sure what that says about me.

user55340

@ThomasOwens that evil community mod! (I wonder how @GlenH7 feels about community now that they are on the same "side" on engr.se?)

user114359

@AshleyNunn like this from Skyfall?

user15026

Well, obviously I am not as cool as Bond

@AshleyNunn do this: in a 3x3 grid, make the rows {on, on, off}, {off, on, on}, {off, on, off}

user15026

2:21 PM

Whoa.

Also the "acorn" default configuration on that page is quite cool

user15026

Oh, that one is neat!

Conway's game of life gets really interesting when it's played on a taurus (the top edge wraps to the bottom, and the left edge wraps to the right)

then things like gliders can come back and actually keep the chaos going

user15026

That's awesome

I wrote a music game a while back that used John Conway's game of life. It was a tone matrix game with 16x16 cells. I had it so that the cell "universe" wrapped around at the screen edges (cells on the far left are linked to cells on the far right). I was sure that the JCGoL mode would make it a HUGE success. I was wrong :) Barely anyone noticed it.

Apparently I was the only one who thought a self-evolving piece of music was cool.

or maybe my UI just sucked ass and nobody could find the GoL feature. Probably that one.

2:30 PM

was it decent to listen to or just chaos?

It was really nice actually. The 16 notes mapped to 3 octaves (+1 note) of the pentatonic scale. So it was impossible to make anything sound dissonant.

It started off as a wii homebrew game. I got a lot of positive reviews there:

wiibrew.org/wiki/Harmonium

then I ported it to xbox 360 where it did ok.

fun times :)

user15026

Aw, I was hoping it was something I could poke at, it sounds very neat to me

If you have an xbox 360 I can give you a free download code.

user15026

I do not, sadly

@MetaFight I do

2:37 PM

:(

@MetaFight I do

lemme find the google doc with the codes. brb

I don't want to mod my consoles though

I'm happy with the youtube demonstration :-)

it's a legit download on 360. It's homebrew on the wii.

2:38 PM

Congratz on your project, looks like it was really fun

thanks :) I learned a lot (made tons of mistakes) when I wrote it.

does anyone want a download code? I found them.

marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Harmonium/…

My xbox is modded so I can't get it online

I want one

@durron597 BVTDC-7VRYG-8F2HM-6CF6H-XTWFY

that should give you a free download of the game. If it doesn't work please tell me and I'll give you another code.

(there's a small chance I already gave that code out and forgot to update the spreadsheet)

> Success! You now own Harmonium.

Thanks!

How hard is it to put games on the xbox store?

Do you have to pay a hosting fee?

2:47 PM

You need to pay a membership fee to publish (something like 100 USD a year) and that's it.

once your game is published it's hosted and sold forever for free.

are you making more than $100/year on the game?

I still make about 70c a month :)

@durron597 nope

I made something like 4k in total. not bad for someone who barely knew c# at the time.

sweet!

user15026

@MetaFight That's pretty great.

@MetaFight nice

2:49 PM

The community of devs was pretty active and most of them were really nice. A few did it as their dayjobs making roughly 40-60k (GBP) a year.

but I think the market crashed a year or two after I published.

time to start developing for xbox one

@TheTime - That changes the purpose of the table. Currently you have "Every week on the given day this route has a stop visited at this (local) time". Changing it would make it "At this particular date/time, this route will stop at the given location". You'd have to put in a row for every date... and I'd probably still recommend having the current table for other reasons. Given your current table, you can derive the date portion. This will depend heavily on what your db is really going to be user for (separate question here/Programmers.SE for design questions). — Clockwork-Muse 59 secs ago

@durron597 I've thought about it. I just haven't had the time to look into it yet.

Could this get one more reopen vote please

@ratchetfreak thanks

3:06 PM

You have working code you are looking to improve. That's a code review. This site is for getting help with code that doesn't work. At least that's my overly simplified take. There's a good meta post about this (and using programmers SE). I'll see if I can find it. — rmaddy 14 secs ago

How to get a lot of attention for your question: post a comment that mentions both code review and programmers

I've gotta say, Duga is a popular guy!

@Snowman have you got any CVs left?

user114359

I just used my last one a few minutes ago.

@Snowman I'm out, I want to tag that question you edited as duplicate

I just left a normal comment.

When I get home, I need to figure out why the Eclipse Process Framework doesn't want to work with a 64-bit JDK.

user114359

@durron597 I have mixed feelings on that. The one you linked is broader, and I don't agree that (more specific question on X) is always a duplicate of (more broad question on X). In this case, the specific technologies of Spring and Maven will likely give a more meaningful answer to the asker than high-level techniques in the other question.

3:20 PM

@ThomasOwens maybe it uses dlls (jni) somewhere

@ratchetfreak Is that really an issue? I thought a 64-bit JDK can run everything. Doesn't it have a 32-bit mode?

user114359

@ThomasOwens Nope, a 32-bit DLL cannot be loaded into a 64-bit process (the 64 bit JVM)

@Snowman That's dumb. But it's probably it.

windows doesn't allow 32 bit to be loaded into a 64 bit process

Maybe I'll just install a 32-bit JRE, then

user114359

3:22 PM

@ThomasOwens If you can find a way to load a 32 bit DLL into a 64 process, with different pointer sizes, then call Microsoft and tell them you want a job :-)

not unless you employ some hacks

@Snowman I don't want to do that.

Microsoft is just so far away from Boston.

have you considered dropping some of your bits?

@Snowman some of the system dlls are loaded in both the 32 and 64 bits