The Whiteboard

@overexchange From the title alone, I need to fail more

user15026

@Ampt waits for her great career, surely it should come soon

user15026

Also, @ampt, did you decide what you're reading next?

I started in on the asimov

my fingers REFUSE to let me type the i before the m

also, it never gets better

you get a good paying career... and your girlfriend drops that shes the second to last person in her class to not be engaged/married AND tells you she wants a baby

whatdo

apparently a puppy won't suffice.... fml. I don't have enough whiskey on the fridge for this

user15026

@Ampt oh boy, that's a lot all at once.

2:15 AM

HALP

user15026

buys more whiskey

user15026

is so helping

user20683

buys condoms

user15026

I don't think we have an SE for this

user20683

parenting

2:17 AM

HowToDealWithYourBabyCrazyGF.SE

ohgod

don't tell her I said that

user20683

@Ampt aren't you like all of not very old?

user15026

Man, I am so far from the marriage and babies stuff.

user20683

like I mean, 2nd to last in her which class? High School?

yeah

high school

and yeah, I'm really, really not that old

user20683

High School is a terrible metric

user20683

2:18 AM

for anything

I am way too not old for dealing with babies

user15026

@Ampt I think it is good I scandalized most of my HS so there is no one to compare to :D

user15026

@Ampt babies are only good when you can give them back for troubleshooting

@WorldEngineer ugh, for sure. She went to a very..... conservative HS, so it was HS -> baby making time!

gotta give those parents their grand kids I guess

user20683

@Ampt Catholic or Evangelical?

user15026

2:19 AM

It's easy, I just tell my mom when she is like "have babies" that my boyfriend is almost exactly 1000km away so she'd have to help me, and that shuts that up :P

Protestant

Lutheran to be specific

user20683

ah

@AshleyNunn yeah, I'll just go down to the BABY STORE and find myself a happy little BABY that never needs any care mom!

JEEZ

user15026

@Ampt you do that. I might have a coupon for half off a baby, let me look. rummages through purse

I'm just going to get her a puppy

that'll keep her occupied for a while

user20683

2:23 AM

@Ampt Monkey?

don't you need a license for those?

user20683

@Ampt probably

user15026

Last time my sister and her boyfriend fought he bought her chickens

but not one to make a human...

@AshleyNunn .... do you live in an eastern bloc country?

user15026

@Ampt not last I checked

user15026

2:25 AM

They were fancy Silkie chickens.

user15026

So that's....better?

user20683

@Ampt the chickens did not buy them, so no.

@WorldEngineer touche

user15026

facedesk

user15026

to be fair, my sister has a rabbit, a cat, a great dane, chickens, ducks, pheasants, and three goats (that live at my aunt's). I don't think any of the cows or water buffalo are hers.

TEDxUIUC - David E. Goldberg - 7 Missing Basics of Engineering

2:27 AM

water... buffalo?

user15026

@Ampt yep! They're tasty

overexchange

►

overexchange

4:19 AM

0

Q: How to visualise this data model?

I have learnt different variants of list data model like Dlist, SList and recursivenodetype-list. But I could not understand/visualise this datamodel as mentioned below in C++ syntax: class XGNode { private: friend class XGList; XGNode* next ; XGNode* prev ; ...

Duga

5:32 AM

Belongs on programmers.stackexchange.com — testing123 37 secs ago

7:15 AM

How to convince yourself that Thread.Sleep() is required in an infinite while loop?

Take the code here for e.g. -> gist.github.com/deostroll/80909858c42e00c8079f

7:59 AM

@deostroll there is no "sleep until accept or timeout"?

cause if there is then that is what you should use

Or you can acceptasync and use a cancelation token on the returned task to stop the while loop

10:57 AM

Scott Ambler's site ran out of bandwidth.

The hell, man.

@ratchetfreak what happens at the cpu level? aren't cpu cycles really wasted without the thread.sleep() ? So I believe I've heard...

@deostroll no a blocking accept acts as a sleep but the OS will wake it if the accept completes

the same if you wait on the task from the async

it's not a busy wait if you use a blocking method to wait

The idea is that I'd call listener.Stop() (which stops the program from listening to that specific port) from another (main) thread...

that is what the CancelationToken is for

in Stop you cancel it and the task returns with an error that the token was canceled

11:12 AM

I don't think the api has support for that...

msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/…

returns a Task<Socket>

msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd321315%28v=vs.110%29.aspx

waits on the task with a CancelationToken

thorsten müller

Tried to sabotage this StackEgg thingy, but two other users seem to take this very serious.

What is this StackEgg thing?

Oh. I thought that was an ad.

Let me clicky.

thorsten müller

kind of tamagotchi

12:09 PM

Interesting. I need to not do that all day and do work.

But it was fun.

thorsten müller

Would be better with longer rounds. Also you can somewhat game it.

user55340

12:58 PM

@ThomasOwens now the question is primarily opinion (in my opinion) and boils down to "do you like phone home? Will it annoy you? Your network admin?"

@MichaelT Yeah. I figured I'd make the edits and see what sticks.

At least it's not off-topic anymore. It's so hard when there are multiple valid close reasons and I need to choose one.

1:11 PM

I wonder if there is a way to focus on the question. Ethics are such a tough area to deal with. But I think it's important to find a way to ask about ethical decision making. It's important to software development.

user55340

The functionality is only tangentially our call to make. This is a business question. What does the business want? What are the users willing to accept?

Yeah. I'm not sure how this particular question should be an ethics question.

we should coordinate on this stack egg thing

if we're going to bother with it

I don't like it. It's totally slowing down the network.

user55340

The problem with ethics, there is no problem. They are inherently polls.

1:26 PM

I wonder how Philosophy deals with it.

user41796

I don't remember other April fool's jokes killing the network like this. I appreciate the effort they put into April Fool's and all, but not if it makes the main sites unusable.

@ThomasOwens Ixrec's answer to my question is good, but it doesn't address the main point... improving the faq

1:41 PM

omg review queue is so slow today

user41796

All of SE is so slow today

How do they not test these things for scalability

I don't know, but it's StackEgg.

We are disabling the eggs for a moment while we optimize them a bit. They'll return soon!

Tweeted by StackStatus on March 31, 2015 at 1:41 PM

user41796

Really, it's okay if they don't return.

1:51 PM

eggs? I don't understand

unless "easter eggs" referring to tomorrow ?

wat:

programmers.stackexchange.com/review/close/97599

caps lock should always be control

user41796

@durron597 NPR days

@GlenH7 When we were buying advertising time on NPR?????????

Q: How can you have normal life when you're too passionate?

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Let me put this straight. I am quite passionate about programming. I am single and have plenty of time outside work. I haven't slept for 5 full hours for at least a month, as I am involved in multiple projects at work (most of them volunteered) and some open-source projects as well. I know that I...

work-environment health

user41796

1:54 PM

@durron597 Not Programming Related. aka the dark times.

user41796

@enderland Unfortunately, I think that will take a mod to delete.

@GlenH7 does it have delete votes at the moment?

user41796

yes, 1

Side note: this writing tables with divs post is such a bikeshed

oh. now I see stackegg

2:03 PM

@GlenH7 Did that control key question get deleted?

I can't even find it anymore

@durron597 BOOOOM

It got nuked from orbit,

@ratchetfreak hmm I like the idea, in fact am interested in refactoring...but thats going to be maintenance nightmare for the mortals out here.... :)

user15026

2:46 PM

I just scheduled another interview. :) so one today, one tomorrow, one Monday.

user15026

That feels really, really good.

user55340

@durron597 bike shed indeed. I'm getting announcer badges for things I said in comments.

user55340

3:01 PM

Btw, @ThomasOwens want to take put the rest of that sql source control question?

@MichaelT Do you have any thoughts on how to revise the faq about this question:

Q: What is the preferred tool/approach to putting a SQL Server database under source control?

@MichaelT Link?

user55340

7

I've evaluated RedGate SQL Source Control tool (http://www.red-gate.com/products/sql-development/sql-source-control/), and I believe that Team Foundation Server 2010 offers a way to do this as well (as touched on here http://blog.discountasp.net/using-team-foundation-server-2010-source-control-fr...

version-control sql-server team-foundation-server

Just deleted the ones that weren't useful and were bad answers. At least, I think I got all of them. The rest seemed like OK answers to a bad question.

user55340

That it is a bad question... Want to take it out wholesale? Or are you going to make me wait two days?

3:15 PM

Oh. I didn't see the year in the question. I just say March 28th and thought it was 3 days old. I'll just nuke the whole thing.

3:41 PM

I'm sad because I answered an SO question and a 1 rep user is not as good at formatting posts or FGITW as me, so they ended up with a redundant, worse formatted answer and deleted their own post

FGITW practice -> new users run away scared

any bets on googles april fools joke?

@Ampt Maps has pacman

Telastyn

let's hope they turn google off for April Fools as a threat to stop April Fool's garbage.

really? they almost always have the best and most elaborate prank

like that time they got together with Virgin and said they were sending people to mars

user15026

April Fools is my least favourite internet thing.

MetaFight

3:55 PM

Me arriving at work tomorrow: "April fools!! I slept in until noon." Classic.

Q: Jokingly told my boss "I quit" on April Fools, and I think I just got fired

hey now I had a great april fools question on workplace a few years ago

36

I jokingly told my manager "I quit" via email (it was longer than that) as an April Fools joke. We get along pretty well normally. Well, it seems my joke was taken a bit too seriously as I just got an automated email from HR with checkout procedures and an invite to a few "checkout" meetings la...

communication resignation

Am I the only person wondering if the joke is on enderland/enderland's boss, or everyone reading the question on workplace.se? — Dan Neely Apr 1 '13 at 18:31

user15026

My problem is I am, well, quite trusting of things. I also tend to forget what day it is.

user15026

It causes me problems.

> The best plan of attack will be to slap your boss. Slapping people at work is pretty common and will help make it more clear you were only joking.

> If this doesn't work, sleeping with your boss's wife is also an effective way to make it clear you were only joking.

What happens if I make up a resume that indicates my job was to slap my boss?

3:59 PM

@ThomasOwens do you bring your own leather, or do you expect that to be provided upon your start?

@Ampt Provided. I don't typically bring my own equipment to work. Who does that? Unless you're some kind of contractor.

Please explain how this question isn't answerable: programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/277866/…

Hey, the bring-your-own-leather movement is growing, it's just up to the cleaners to figure out an adoption plan

@svidgen you're asking for stadardized names for things that aren't standardized.

@svidgen And maybe you shouldn't come into chat and insult everyone here.

Why don't you take a nice deep breath and try to figure out why you're so angry at a bunch of anonymous people on the internet

4:02 PM

Wow lucky. My boss didn't realize that the USDA soybeans quarterly report was today and he didn't adjust our soybean algorithm to compensate... and it just happened to work out. The best single trade we've had all month

@ThomasOwens I almost flagged it but figured I didn't need to ping every mod in chat, everwhere when there are 3 on hand here

MetaFight

@svidgen I can't answer that question because it's deleted.

duh

@durron597 clearly evidence points to you needing to make more psuedo-random trades

user15026

@durron597 That's always nice :)

$951 to $981 range of the price in the blink of an eye. and now it's trading at $971 (which is only a little higher than it was trading before, $963)

user15026

4:04 PM

@durron597 oh, very nice

@svidgen you do see what we're getting at though, right? There is no "expected name" for those sorts of ideas, because each programmer will expect something different

you, your team, your company, your region, might all find one name to be succinct and true, but someone outside one of those groups might see the exact opposite

finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=ZSK15.CBT+Interactive#

trust me, it traded at 981

I'll admit, it gets hazy with those sorts of questions here when something is standardized (like serializable in java, for instance), but from your question, none of that was particularly widely adopted or standardized

@Ampt Indeed ;)

@durron597 when it comes to soybean futures, I trust you 110%

4:07 PM

@Ampt That would be a mistake, since I clearly don't know when the quarterly USDA report is.

you know I think you've tried explaining this in chat before, but can you link me to some resources explaining what, exactly, you're buying and selling here?

I get that buying stock in a company is essentially buying a piece of the company, with the hope that it goes up in value

I also understand selling short because you think it will decrease in value

@Ampt Commodity futures

but what in the hell are futures

ok, so soybean consumers are locking in their prices so they can avoid future fluctuations, hopeing that the price goes up

so that their future was worth it

like truckers buying gas futures

makes sense

user41796

Futures are legalized gambling within the various stock and commodity markets

as far as I'm concerned, the whole stock market is legalized gambling

3

user41796

4:10 PM

In theory, futures would be a gambling game of skill as opposed to luck.

@Ampt +10000000

user15026

All I know about futures I learned from the country AM radio station, where every day around lunch they'd let you know the prices for everything :P

omg can you blue names do something about these raiders

raiders?

@Ampt These spam flags

4:11 PM

techcrunch.com/2015/03/31/…

"space raid"

Anyway, our daily breakeven is $X. We made 7.5X in that trade

wooohooo

so you can all go home now?

you did 7.5 days of work already

@Ampt We could, but we want to make more

@Ampt s/hours/days/

@durron597 you're buying a work future?

@Ampt It's a work spot. My boss wants to take delivery immediately

4:14 PM

ugh, don't they always

so risk averse

user15026

@durron597 I poked my head in.

user41796

@AshleyNunn ty - that was getting out of hand

@AshleyNunn I'm sorry, I'm still missing what's going on

@AshleyNunn ty

Q: When something that was supposed to be fun became not fun

It has to do with Stack Egg.

There's a Meta SE post about it. One sec.

6

StackEgg! What a great invention. Probably the best thing to hit Stack Exchange since the invention of unicoins! Very entertaining game, very fun to play. Many users have probably spent several hours playing this. And April Fool's day is not over yet. However, where there is great inventions t...

discussion fun april-fools stackegg

4:16 PM

stack... egg?

user15026

The SE April Fools - the tamagotchi looking ad thing - click it, it takes you to a game that is basically "build an SE site by clicking buttons"

user15026

There is an option to restart, needs x people to choose it, and some sites are banding together to sabotage other sites

Stack Egg really wasn't thought through. It was why all the sites lagged like hell this morning, I guess.

@ThomasOwens Everyone upvote the question @ThomasOwens just linked please

whatsisname

futures are also inverse gambling

that's what they are supposed to be used for, anyway

4:19 PM

@whatsisname That's the other thing my company does

alright, lets get the P.SE stack egg over with - everyone go vote to close

every round

Inverse gambling our PGM recycling business

there are literally 2 of us playing on progs lmao

@Ampt I played for 5 min before I got bored

yeah it's rather boring

lets go raid another site

4:26 PM

I din't make it even 5 min

I looked at it and was bored

ok, so why were people casting spam flags?

distraction?

user41796

It was an attempt to shut the conversation down

user15026

Yeah, basically an indication of "we are not happy, do not do this thing", I think.

I'm only closing questions

I'm on like 5 SE sites....

I'm debating using a Map<Integer, Map<Integer, Map<Integer, Map<Integer, List>>>> just because I can and no one is here to stop me.

4:35 PM

that's an april fools joke..... right?

It's a terrible idea. But that's how I initially drew it out. I'm moving the maps into container classes because there is logic associated with them.

But that's pretty much what I have going on.

You could at least use a Table<Integer, Integer, Table<Integer, Integer, List<Foo>>>

Oh, is Guava not an approved dependency?

@durron597 Where's the fun in that?

I want the most screwed up data structure I can come up with.

Triple nested maps seems about as insane as I can get in this instance.

You could also use a Tesseract<Integer, Integer, Integer, Integer, Integer, Foo>

@ThomasOwens balpha is involved now, fyi

yeah, just tell them it's just a collection of hypercubes

that should solve their problems

4:43 PM

@Ampt a collection of hyperFactoryNCubes would definitely solve their problems

If I have a set of flat files, but the data is actually hierarchical, would the best way of creating the underlying data structure be to pass in each file to the root node and then pass it down until it gets added to the appropriate place?

oooh, a hyperFactoryNCubeFactory would be even better

I'm thinking yes. The client would just know about adding data to the top level. But when it comes to accessing data, the client would be able to traverse the tree.

@ThomasOwens You should separate the way the data is stored (flat files) from the way that data is managed in your code

So the data processing methods would likely be package protected so that they aren't exposed to a client. But the data accessor methods that use the processed data would be public. And private helpers as appropriate.

@durron597 I am. That's why I created a tree-like data model.

But now I need to read all of the flat files and put the data into the tree appropriately so that it can be worked with in a sane way by clinets.

I think I should just "addFile(File)" to the root element and have it populate down the tree.

4:46 PM

@ThomasOwens addStream(InputStream), but sure

You can have addFile(File) if you want as a convenience method that just calls addStream

But I wouldn't.

Actually, I wouldn't do addStream either

I might do addRawData(RawData data) and then create a class that handles the InputStream -> RawData conversion

Actually, I've already parsed the files and turned them into objects. They are binary files that I've worked with the data to create a wrapper object.

So I'd call add(ParsedObject)

@ThomasOwens Right. ParsedObject <=> RawData

But same idea - you give the root node the thing to work with, it finds or makes the right child, which finds or makes the right child, and so on, until the data is in the right place.

I wouldn't call it a ParsedObject. It's more like a LexedObject

True. It's actually a Packet. It's more of a message, really. But in all of the system documents, it's called a packet. So I have a whole bunch of different types of Packets that inherit from a Packet class.

4:59 PM

@Ampt If the question had pertained to business/domain language, I'd agree. Since it pertained to conventions that appear at-large in software development, I find it far more unreasonable that there wouldn't be widespread expectations behind Promise-like verbs.

... in particular, whether there's are pre-existing expectations for how promise-like verbs "interact" with an event-like model.

user41796

@svidgen - welcome back, and thank you for taking a more constructive tone in addressing your question.

But frankly, my participation here has become ever-increasing frustrating -- though I agree that quality control is required for a sites like *.SE, I find that the vast majority of questions are a grammatical change away from being objectively answerable. Folks here just tend to take the lazy approach and impulsively downvote + VTC.

Very. Very. Frustrating.

user41796

I understand your sense of frustration. Chat and / or Meta are appropriate places to ask about why a question was closed.

user41796

And I think you can understand why there is an expectation of using a constructive, not-insulting tone.

@GlenH7 I'm not really concerned with why it was closed. I'm frustrated with why the community here makes no effort to extract the objective concern from a poorly phrased question.

@GlenH7 Of course.

user41796

5:05 PM

@svidgen The short answer is that it can be (incredibly) difficult to understand what an OP is actually trying to ask.

It takes time. I think most of us use Programmers at work. I tend to flip over if I'm stuck and look at the flag queue, then interesting questions to see if I can put together a quick answer. If I'm at home at night or on the weekend, I have more time. But a quick close to prevent answers that may be invalidated by edits is a good thing.

user41796

And the community members will try to edit the question into more easily understood terms, if they're able to

The difference is particularly frustrating when compared to my experience on Christianity.SE, wherein the community is exceptionally eager (often to a fault, admittedly) to extract meaning and edit every question. Downvotes and VTC's are a last resort. here ... they seem to be the first reaction.

Throw on a quick close, get the question good and answerable, and then reopen. Many users do a lot in the reopen queue. All it takes is one edit to get it kicked into the reopen queue.

user41796

^^^ This

5:07 PM

@svidgen I think that's the nature of the site. Like I said, I think a lot of us are at work when we use Programmers. We don't have the time or background knowledge of the user's problem to fix a question.

@ThomasOwens That's notable, if it's reasonable and normal for questions to be re-opened here.

But, it's still horribly frustrating and off-putting.

@svidgen In instances where someone can make it into a good question, it does get reopened. If it's not moving fast enough, drop a mod flag on it.

user41796

@svidgen Also have a look at the difference in the site stats: stackexchange.com/sites#traffic

we view closed questions as those in progress - if changes happen, they get re-evaluated

reopen votes are thrown even more readily than close votes in my opinion

user41796

Programmers is considerably larger than Christianity, which requires a different approach to community moderation. Likewise, due to the technical nature of what people are asking on Programmers it can be much more difficult to discern what's being asked.

5:09 PM

@GlenH7 Not sure what I should be seeing there ...

~1/3 of the visitors, ~1/6 of the questions per day

user41796

Look at visits per day; questions per day; number of users; etc... Progs is just much bigger than Christianity. What works on a smaller site doesn't necessarily scale to a larger site.

you guys have many, many more eyeballs, but far fewer questions per day

@svidgen Programmers has 139k users, with 75k visits/day, and 32 questions/day. Christianity has 9.6k users, 23k visits/day, and 5.8 questions/day.

We have 6 times more questions, almost 3x more views, and over 14x more users. It's a different beast. Things move much faster here. However, they don't move as fast as on SO.

@GlenH7 Ah ... I see. ... But, compare that to SO, which tops the list, and which pretty rarely closes questions. The same sort of attitude prevails there -- try to address the intended objective question. Use VTC's as a last resort.

5:11 PM

@svidgen SO closes questions constantly what are you talking about

@svidgen ugh, please don't compare SO to any of the other sites

@svidgen SO has a lot of closed questions. They are just so agressive with down voting that they get knocked off the homepage quickly.

it's so large that it's practically it's own world

not that you're the first to do so, or that you're wrong, it's just at a completely different scale

They also get so many new questions that the closed questions are below the new ones

Once a question gets a certain negative score, it is not showed to users on the homepage anymore. SO gets there very, very quickly. You may see a lot of -2 and -3 questions on Programmers, but there are a ton of -5 or lower questions on SO that get there in seconds.

whatsisname

5:13 PM

questions asking to debug JAVA code are probably fast-tracked onto the path of -5

@ThomasOwens That may happen to particularly poor questions. But, most (even bad/subjective-like) questions live in the most-recent list for a very long time, and usually get several answers within minutes. ...

And that may not be good ...

... but, the attitude here just seems pretty unwelcoming lately.

So what do you think we can do differently, using the tools at our disposal, yet maintaining high quality questions and answers?

Folks put a VTC on and link to a meta answer that sometimes speaks to a bad quality of the question. And sometimes ... not at all.

user41796

On SO:
closed:yes -> 393,459 results
closed:yes score:0 -> 134,904 results
Which implies 258,555 closed questions with a negative score.
And this ignores questions that have been deleted by the community or by the Community mod.

@ThomasOwens Uhh ... I'd argue that the most frequent-VTC'ers should at lest be forced to leave a constructive comment.

user41796

5:17 PM

@svidgen To be perfectly honest, I frequently don't comment when I VTC anymore. I'm tired of dealing with the follow-up frequently inflammatory comments complaining about unfair closing and the revenge down voting.

@GlenH7 And those are the ones that haven't been deleted

@GlenH7 I'm much more likely to leave a comment when I downvote than when I VTC, fwiw

whatsisname

and when I VTC a question that very clearly the asker spent less than ten seconds on, which happens pretty frequently, I'm not going to waste a minute of my time trying to help someone that clearly does not care whatsoever

@GlenH7 Not exactly. There are some highly upvoted closed questions.

@svidgen I do agree that some of the comments left aren't the most constructive.

And I do mean constructive. "This is subjective" may sound constructive in your head; but, even "subjective" concerns are related to objective concerns. A good portion of the time, the OP doesn't know what aspect of his question sounds subjective. Or how it's not objective.

That's what I'm referring to. If a comment is necessary (sometimes it's so blatant if you take 2 minutes to read the Help Center), it should be more explicitly as to what the problem is and how to fix it.

5:20 PM

In the case of my question, I do understand how it sounded subjective -- on a site like C.SE, the community would have helped me distill the objective concern from the subjective language.

And yes ... the folks who participate on C.SE also work FT jobs ...

That said ... I haven't participated on C.SE in awhile. It's possible they haven't been able to sustain that level of "helpfulness."

Steven Burnap

After the fifteenth "what should I do in my career?" question or "please do my homework" question", commenting seems pointless. It is hard to get the energy to make a constructive comment when someone obviously either didn't read, or completely ignored, what sorts of questions are not on topic.

user41796

@StevenBurnap Those tags even get red pop-ups asking "are you sure you want to ask this? It's off-topic here..."

Q: Improve question quality by informing askers of expectations in some career related tags

Is there a reason why we haven't nuked and had those tags blacklisted?

Those may all go onto my STCI Redux that I want to write up.

user41796

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Over here at Programmers, a lot of askers seems to misunderstand site-specific expectations of career related questions, which frequently results in questions closure and deletions. Propose to help question askers and editors by establishing tag-specific popup (tag-tips) for particularly trouble...

feature-request status-completed tags asking-questions

That box is really hard to read.

Has anyone actually tried it? It's white text on this...vomit green background.

And the links are only a slightly darker shade than the background. It's not very user-friendly for reading.

5:27 PM

@StevenBurnap Understood. But, something that's explicitly off-topic is much more clear-cut than assigning degrees and qualities of subjectivity.

user41796

@ThomasOwens Just did, yes. It's kinda hard to read, I agree.

And even for things that are clear-cut, the question/day/moderator rate isn't so high that a quick line of explanation is infeasible.

Doesn't mean a longwinded comment-conversation is required if it really is clear-cut. But, at least an explanation would make it seem less like the VTC-er just doesn't understand the question or just doesn't feel like thinking about it ... or whatever.

@svidgen I'd agree with that. That would even help me as a moderator. I may miss something in the question (or find something that the VTCer missed) to help me make a decision. I'm sure anyone using the review queues would find it helpful.