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Ampt
Ampt
1:30 AM
working on getting brushed up on my Sci-Fi
that's pretty much since the beginning of the year. picked up some more:
which should I start with?
 
user15026
From which image?
 
Ampt
Ampt
bottom
top is books I've read
just got the bottom three 15 minutes ago
 
user15026
The only one I've read of those was Reamde and I wasn't a super huge fan of it (I liked Snow Crash and Diamond Age much better)
 
Ampt
Ampt
uugggghhhh
don't say that
I liked both of those and figured a book that big had to be good
aaand I just realized it says reamde and not readme....
 
user15026
@Ampt yeah, it's a plot point :)
 
user15026
1:43 AM
It was okay, just snow crash and diamond age were much better.
 
Ampt
Ampt
Expectations: lowered
 
user15026
I'm sorry :(
 
Ampt
Ampt
haha no, that probably just means I'll like it more
I wont have as high of expectations going into it
 
user15026
That's true. :)
 
Ampt
Ampt
Also, this will be the first philip k dick I've read
 
user15026
1:57 AM
I am not sure I've read any
 
Ampt
Ampt
seems to be one of the big ones in Sci-Fi... just never had any of his books come across my eyeballs
I lied... I think I've read at least a part of "Do androids dream of electric sheep?"
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
Remade is disappointing mostly because it starts so well.
Stupid autocorrect.
And the new Gibson book The Peripheral is fine. More coherent than Neuromancer.
The new McDevitt is not great. Older McDevitt is better.
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:50 AM
I thought Neuromancer was pretty good!
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
3:04 AM
I still need to read it
Haven't read any sci-fi yet, just started reading fiction at al last year and have been enjoying urban fantasy books, stuff that has normal modern day people but throws in enough fantasy to be a nice distraction from reality. Don't much care for anything where people aren't normal modern day folk like if all of society is different; is Neuromancer sound relatable to modern day society? Friend lent it to me to read
Otherwise, any suggestions for a good sci-fi book that would be a good intro to the genre?
 
user15026
3:22 AM
@JimmyHoffa what sort of urban fantasy?
 
Ampt
Ampt
@JimmyHoffa Uhh... neuromancer is kind of proto-typical steampunk. The authors usually get this kind of liberal, crazily segregated future in their mind, and then write as if it is taken for granted that this is the future world and it got there somehow. If you've never done cyberpunk before it's a pretty good one in my opinion
I would say The Diamond Age is another good entry into that category
or snow crash
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@AshleyNunn goodreads.com/series/52837-the-iron-druid-chronicles is a good example of the stuff I've been reading. Normal world with separate/secret fantasy elements
 
Ampt
Ampt
Snow crash may be more relatable to modern day than the others
in any case it was a genre I didn't think I would like much but it grew on me
You might enjoy Robopocalypse - more SciFi than cyberpunk
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt Will have to look that one up, I've heard it mentioned by others. Is actiony? Not interested in intrigue/thoughtful stuff
 
Ampt
Ampt
Proto-typical steampunk Cyberpunk** Dang my inability to proofread
@JimmyHoffa eh.... maybe try Robopocalypse in that case
most of the cyberpunk entries are intrigue/thought provoking - or they attempt to be
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
3:34 AM
@Ampt yeah, that's one of the reasons I haven't poked at sci-fi type stuff much, the protagonists should kick ass, not think deep thoughts- I get enough of that at work.
 
Ampt
Ampt
nah, plenty of good sci-fi action books
what else is good... there's always Starwars/Startrek if you're into either of those universes
the entries are surprisingly strong - at least the starwars ones in (I'm in that camp when it comes to the books. Haven't read a Trek book, but I would assume they are of the same caliber)
The Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn is pretty much the standard when it comes to pretty-much-canon-to-the-point-that-they-should-be-the-new-movie-plot
You know, you may actually enjoy some of the earlier sci-fi books - much more rooted in the every day man just 10-20 years down the line
their crazy-liberal sci-fi is our modern day conservatism
Stuff Like Asimov or Arthur C. Clarke
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
@Ampt that sounds cool, may be a good starting place to get into the genre. Perhaps I should just go read Asimov, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say a single bad thing about his writing
 
Ampt
Ampt
oh man, go read I, Robot
nothing like the movie
not that the movie was bad, but the book is actually a collection of stories and not a single coherent one, so they just kind of made up whatever they wanted for the movie
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
Philip K. Dick similar? What was that keanu reeves movie, something dark
 
Ampt
Ampt
he has a ton of short stories as well that you can probably find on the internet
A Scanner Darkly
I just picked that one up
we'll see if I like it
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
3:42 AM
Yeah that was a great movie; and it was in the not-imaginary-distant future
but I think I liked the movie partially for the cast; Robert Downey Jr and Woody Harrelson as tweakers was too great
 
Ampt
Ampt
Ok, here's a short list of good entries in that same vein: I, Robot - Asimov, Robot Visions - Asimov, Rendezvous with Rama - Clarke
Clarke wrote 2001 a space oddessy and all it's successors as well - the further forward in time you go, the more zany it gets.
he kind of does that...
It's like Orson Scott Card with enders game - keep reading into the series until you don't like it, then quit, because it doesn't get any better
The first and the last books in the series are so far a part in content and style and theme that they may very well not be related at all
but the first couple entries are always worth the read
 
 
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deostroll
deostroll
6:09 AM
8 bit encoding?! What does it mean? ascii-8 bit, or, utf-8, etc...?
 
 
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ratchet freak
ratchet freak
7:55 AM
@deostroll it can also mean ebcedic
8-bit encoding just means encode into bytes, which is everything these days
 
deostroll
deostroll
8:56 AM
I have email data in 8-bit encoding (transfer encoding). How to figure how to decode that? Similarly there is 7 bit encoding?
I have no clue what to do...
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
9:07 AM
"transfer encoding" for email is ascii
 
deostroll
deostroll
9:19 AM
But there are cases where its base64, 8bit, 7bit, quoted-printable, etc...
Agreed email is ascii...but the content it envelopes...that is in one of the above encodings...
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
9:52 AM
then it's described in one of the headers
 
Duga
Duga
10:22 AM
This is not the place for academic questions, perhaps you need programmers.stackexchange.com — matt_lethargic 52 secs ago
 
MetaFight
MetaFight
10:46 AM
yo. Does anyone know of a nuget package review site or user comments site?
Often when I'm browsing nuget packages I'd like to read user reviews. Unfortunately nuget.org doesn't allow users to leave comments.
I figure I can't be the first person to want this... so maybe somebody's already created a website to solve this problem.
 
 
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Duga
Duga
12:06 PM
Quoting the tag comments for the legal tag: "Questions about licensing should be asked on Programmers.SE. If you’re using this tag here, your question is probably not appropriate for Stack Overflow. — CommonsWare 57 secs ago
 
Duga
Duga
12:42 PM
@CommonsWare instead of closing, how to move it to programmers.stackexchange.com ? — Marian Paździoch 1 min ago
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
12:55 PM
Hey guys, who wants to do STCI again?
Hopefully I'll be making a meta post at lunchtime. If not lunchtime, maybe tonight. It may take a day or two for me to get a call for proposals together, but I've found some bad tags that should be handled and there are probably more out there.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens STCI?
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@durron597 Structured Tag Cleanup Initiative.
It's a meta-organized method for identifying tags and cleaning them up efficiently, but without destroying the homepage if we do manual retags.
Tags that I've seen that need to be cleaned up include 32-bit, 64-bit, and engineering.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens Interesting
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
1:10 PM
Typically how it works is that people identify a tag that needs to be fixed and it goes into a post on a meta question. People vote them up or down. Starting with the most voted ones, the tag gets cleaned up. If necessary, we go to SE and have them blacklist the tag, too.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens I agree that those three tags are basically always going to be inappropriate on P.SE
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
So I'll likely be making a meta post calling for tags that aren't appropriate for programmers. They could be too narrow, too broad, duplicates of other tags that need to be merged, or someone trying to get around a blacklisted tag by misspelling. We fix up the tag and questions. That usually means copyediting questions and answers and voting to close or delete, too.
My mind has just been blown. UML to model software development processes. And it works.
 
durron597
durron597
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Q: As a lone developer, how can I be sure I am learning and doing decent work?

JosiahBackground: I work in a small (less than 75) person engineering/manufacturing company. I was hired as a developer to work with a single teammate, our purpose being to migrate the company to the modern digital age. My teammate however is not a developer, but instead an industrial engineer, who pri...

planning solo-development
This is so relevant to me
I feel like I never have a chance to breathe to learn new stuff
If I don't have to learn something to get a task done
it's like pulling teeth to take the time to do it
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
I think that's the nature of a business where software isn't the business itself.
Where I am now, we make systems. But our systems are heavily dependent on software, plus we do sell some software-only products. Therefore, there is a business case to invest in the development of software engineers.
But if software isn't your business, there's less of a visible incentive. If you make widgets, isn't every dollar spent to make widgets better/faster/cheaper more valuable? Especially if your software isn't running your core business functions. If you're writing custom software, it becomes a little easier, I think.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens My software is running my core business functions
It's an automated trading platform. We don't even have customers
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
1:26 PM
Ah. Then that seems silly. It seems like they'd want you to be highly effective at what you do, since you directly add business value.
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
@Ampt - it is, just a bit... scattered
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens They don't want to invest in me, they just want the software to work
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
@Ampt - about 3 pages before the end of Ender's Game then
 
durron597
durron597
And I'm already "good enough" in their minds. But they aren't good judges of what's "good enough"
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
30
 
durron597
durron597
1:30 PM
@Telastyn Ender's Game is great. Speaker for the Dead is very different but still great. Xenocide and Children of the Mind aren't worth buying as toilet paper
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
it's great if you ignore the tacked on happy ending
 
durron597
durron597
@Telastyn mmh. I'm not sure I would call that ending... happy.
It's mixed.
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
yeah, it should not be mixed.
it should not have opportunity for redemption
 
durron597
durron597
@Telastyn why? an intelligent species would attempt to seek survival by staying under the radar
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
but the story isn't about them, it's about Ender.
and bullying
 
durron597
durron597
1:37 PM
I think a good story requires all characters to make reasonable decisions given the circumstances they're in and trying to maximize their personal EV, given the constraints of their own personality
that's why every time George R. R. Martin kills off a major character, I think "yup, that person actually would have died in this situation" - it's not epic because he's killing major characters, it's epic because he's willing to pull the trigger that all authors should be willing to pull, but don't.
That's why the trope of TV villians keeping heroes alive to give a chance for them to explain the entire fiendish plot just long enough to let the hero escape is so stupid
That's why Empire Strikes Back is so good - because the reason Vader leaves our band of heroes alive actually makes sense
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@durron597 or executive meddling won't allow them to pull
 
durron597
durron597
@ratchetfreak Perhaps. I'm sure it's some of both.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@durron597 I'm sure a lot of editors will reject the "major protagonist dies" ending of the initial draft
 
enderland
enderland
1:53 PM
@durron597 <------------ relevant username
 
durron597
durron597
@enderland durron597 is not a relevant username ;)
 
enderland
enderland
@durron597 enderland
 
durron597
durron597
Though I admit I never put 2 and 2 together because your avatar is not one I would normally associate with Ender's game
@enderland I know! Winking smiley. Sigh....
 
enderland
enderland
Also the main protagonist dying is a reason I dislike a book I just read
 
durron597
durron597
@enderland It has to make sense. It's not about whether the protagonist dies, it's about whether the characters tried to maximize their personal EV
 
enderland
enderland
1:55 PM
@durron597 I know, the problem was the main character dying didn't make sense
 
durron597
durron597
@enderland Ah that stinks
 
enderland
enderland
Also, the ender's shadow series is really good
 
durron597
durron597
@enderland Meh. It's okay.
He started from a result and worked backwards, and it shows
 
Ampt
Ampt
@ThomasOwens Oh me! Pick me!
 
durron597
durron597
Achilles is a lot smarter than he has any right to be. Remember he also grew up starving in the streets of Rotterdam
There's no mention of pretty much any of the actual grownup politicians that would have held power prior to Peter's rise
 
Ampt
Ampt
2:00 PM
@enderland Is that the origin of your name?
 
durron597
durron597
It would have been better if the antagonists had been distributed over the planet. Different world leaders, other battle school children who were in their 40s and 50s now that never knew Ender except via rumor
 
enderland
enderland
@Ampt yes
 
Ampt
Ampt
Mine's from a random number/letter generator
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@Ampt I thought it was because you were ampt up.
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
I've had this nick for like 25 years now.
spent too much time reading Weis and Hickman
 
enderland
enderland
2:11 PM
I would have thought more about my online nick had I realized my first pick would basically be my entire life of online forum names...
 
Ampt
Ampt
@ThomasOwens common misconception really
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@Ampt I wonder if ampt up would be the next turnt up.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@enderland same here I guess
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens If I think a faq question should be improved should I make a separate meta post or edit / comment on that faq question?
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
though "ratchet freak" kinda grew on me
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
2:12 PM
@durron597 Hmm. Are you improving the question or the answer?
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens Neither, because I don't know the answer
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@durron597 Is this a Help Center FAQ item or a meta-faq item?
 
durron597
durron597
Meta faq
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
or is it just something that you are wondering about?
 
durron597
durron597
I could just write the meta post and then you'll tell me if I did the right thing
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
2:13 PM
And you went through the faq-proposed and faq tags and there's no question yet? If not, ask the new question and tag it faq-proposed.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens No, the faq question does exist
But it's not good enough
I'll just write the meta post. You'll see
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
OK.
That's usually the best. We can close or whatever. It's meta, so nbd.
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@ThomasOwens meta: the cesspit of SE
 
durron597
durron597
Huh, why is stack exchange blocking right clicking anywhere on their pages
I thought my mouse was broken for 10 seconds
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
they aren't
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
2:15 PM
I don't see that they are.
 
Ampt
Ampt
I'm actually pretty happy - I had the foresight at 14 years old to get a gmail address that's just firstnamelastname@gmail.com
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens Weird, it's happening to me over multiple tabs, but only on SE pages.
Oh maybe not (on the multiple tabs thing)
 
enderland
enderland
@Ampt I've got that too, though not at 14... ;)
 
Ampt
Ampt
well, that was many, many years ago now haha
but I was the elite of the elite in a time when my classmates were doglover1234@yahoo.com or sk8erb0y216@aol.com
 
durron597
durron597
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Q: Reconciling "no legal advice" and "yes software licensing"

durron597In this question, I had a disagreement with the original asker about whether a legal advice / software licensing question is on topic. I now think that I was wrong when I voted to close originally, but that's a bit beside the point... Context: Here's the help center about what's on topic (abbevi...

discussion on-topic-definition legal
 
enderland
enderland
2:25 PM
@Ampt yeah haha
My first email was first_last@hotmail
don't put underscores in email addresses lol
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@enderland Dots are OK, though.
 
enderland
enderland
@ThomasOwens especially gmail, since gmail doesn't actually care about periods
gmail has a lot of interesting things you can do
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
There's a character that everything after it is ignored or something.
I forget how that works, exactly.
 
enderland
enderland
+
so if you have firstlast+HAHAHAHAHH@gmail it is the same as firstlast@gmail
or first.............last@gmail
 
durron597
durron597
@enderland my gmail has a period in it, but interestingly nearly all the spam I get goes to the non-period version
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
2:29 PM
Yeah. You can make spam traps that way. Or just support filtering.
@durron597 Same.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens that is brilliant.
 
enderland
enderland
yup
or you can setup filters to categorize newsletters, etc
firstlast+site@gmail.com
 
ratchet freak
ratchet freak
@ThomasOwens except some sites don't accept + in email addresses like that
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
2:54 PM
@ratchetfreak Yeah. Those sites suck.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens So was asking the Meta question the right way to go there?
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@durron597 Yes, I think so.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens While I was writing the first question (yes vs no) I thought of the second one
 
user15026
3:57 PM
Got my interview rescheduled :D
 
durron597
durron597
@AshleyNunn gratsii
 
user55340
My father regularly gets email for a female college student in England with the first initials the same.
 
user55340
His is "abt...@gmail" she uses "a.b.t...@googlemail"
 
durron597
durron597
4:18 PM
Anyone wanna put the nail in this one: programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/277663/…
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@durron597 How is that a bad question?
I just migrated the second one, though. But I fail to see how the agile question is a bad one. Given the accepted answer, it's a misunderstanding of the article.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens "Is it obligatory to work agile?" How is that not opinion based?
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@durron597 It's asking if a dedicated team is required to work agile.
However, the asker misunderstands how "dedicated" is being used in the article he links to.
The accepted answer very clearly explains the misconception, as evidenced by the up votes and accepted state. The question would be useful to others with the misconception.
Hell, MainMa even cited a different article in the answer, making it possible to cite facts, making it not "primarily opinion based".
 
durron597
durron597
4:35 PM
@ThomasOwens Hmm. Maybe the appropriate thing to do is edit the question, not close it.
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
Perhaps. I find it pretty clear. But if you don't, editing it would be better. It's an otherwise appropriate and useful question.
 
durron597
durron597
4:51 PM
@ThomasOwens There, I edited it.
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
Doesn't that change the meaning of the question?
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens Slightly, but the previous version was opinion based
Agile guru A might think that dedicated teams are obligatory, guru B might think they are not obligatory
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
The problem is a misunderstanding of what dedicated team means, though.
There is no rule anywhere in Agile that says that an individual must be dedicated to a single project team.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens That is not relevant; the question as stated was an opinion based question. I agree there is a useful question in there, as evidenced by the answers, but the way it was phrased originally needs to be changed
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
How was it opinion based?
Especially considering MainMa cited sources.
 
durron597
durron597
4:59 PM
Because different programmers implement agile differently
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
The answer is clearly "no". If someone can answer yes and cite sources, then that's perfectly fine too.
Opinion based means that there is little to no data to support your answers. It's purely opinion.
How is asking if a dedicated team is required to support agile opinion based, at all? If you can cite sources or experiences, it's not.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens That's not true, because best practices questions can be backed up with "why this particular technique will produce better results"
But they are still opinion based
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@durron597 The problem with best practice questions isn't that they are opinion-based.
It's that they are too broad. There is no such thing as a universal best practice.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens If I say "here are three ways of doing task X, which one is the best practice"
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
If you define the environment in which X is being done, that's a good question.
You need to specify things like what tools or languages you are using, process constraints, regulatory standards you must adhere to. Things like that could eliminate one or more of your methods.
 
durron597
durron597
5:02 PM
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Q: Using an issue tracker as a single programmer

durron597If this is tl;dr, scroll down to "The Question" Why this is not a duplicate: The linked question talks about version control (which I have), a one step build script (which I have) and to "have an issue tracker at all" (which I have, but I'm having trouble optimizing), none of the answers to tha...

project-management issue-tracking solo-development task-organization
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
I'd close that as too broad. Of the four questions, two are good, one is primarily opinion based, and one is too broad.
> As a lone programmer, do you prefer a full featured issue tracker like redmine or a simpler personal organization system like Wunderlist or Evernote? -- If you use redmine or similar, do you use most of the features?
This is primarily opinion based. It's a poll about redmine feature usage. It also is fishing for a tool recommendation.
> Any tips for getting YOUR BOSS who has had zero interest in using an issue tracker in the past to start using it?
On-topic. I think this may actually be a duplicate. If not, overcoming the issues of introducing a defect tracking tool would be a good question if you describe the people (roles) that you are trying to get to use it.
> When testing existing code (assume code that was not written with TDD), if you find a bug, in what situations to you add the issue to the issue tracker?
On-topic. It's a development methodology question. I'd want some more background about the process that you are currently using (even if it's ad-hoc).
> Any other advice that seems relevant for me.
Too broad / primarily opinion based.
 
durron597
durron597
Maybe his question should be: "according to mainstream Agile sources, is it obligatory to work agile?"
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
If you broke apart your question into two other questions, I would be surprised if they got closed.
@durron597 That's not his question either.
His question is, specifically: in agile, do team members need to be dedicated to one and only one project team.
 
durron597
durron597
so change it to that
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
That's what it was originally. Maybe some wording cleanup. brb
 
durron597
durron597
5:08 PM
I think the question "Is XYZ obligatory?" is opinion based 100% of the time
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
Not if you can back it up. And not if you misunderstand what the word means.
Yes, agile requires that practitioners be dedicated. But not dedicated to the project team.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens Ok I'm going to edit it again to use this wording
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
I'm editing now.
 
durron597
durron597
Hm, well I guess a question like "Is using curly braces in Java obligatory?" isn't opinion based
But, "Is using capitalized class names and lowercase field names in Java obligatory?" is
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
There are times when it is and times when it's not. But if you don't have them after an if block, I will hunt you down and hurt you. :P
 
durron597
durron597
5:13 PM
@ThomasOwens I meant like, public class Foo int bar;
Hi @GlenH7 do you agree with @ThomasOwens analysis of my question from a few years ago (scroll up 10-20 messages)
You voted to close it at the time
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
BTW: Here's a possible duplicate of the bug tracker part.
This one may also need to be referenced. But they may also be different.
Personally, I'd be interested in answering the "when do you put something in defect tracking" question if you post that one.
 
durron597
durron597
@ThomasOwens Perhaps in a little while
 
user41796
@durron597 Well, obviously I agree because I VTC'd and I never make mistakes when casting those. :-D
 
user41796
I might go with Too Broad now as opposed to primarily opinion based. But as structured, it's kinda fishing around in a broad area looking for how others are doing the same thing
 
user41796
One way to turn it around is to re-focus the question so that you're targeting your future self. ie. in 6 months from now you won't remember what it was that you were thinking when you did Foo. Where is the dividing line between the trivial bits and the ones that justify the overhead in putting it into the VCS
 
user41796
5:27 PM
And skimming over the existing answers, I don't think that would invalidate any of them
 
user41796
And woodworking just went into public beta. woo hoo
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
I hope that Open Source takes off. Then, maybe we can call licensing questions off-topic.
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Open Source

Proposed Q&A site for questions regarding motivation, marketing, organisation and licences pertaining specifically to open source projects.

Currently in commitment.

Once it launches, probably.
 
user41796
@ThomasOwens But I likez my eazy repz
 
user41796
I think I've pulled in about 75 from the recent MIT copyright question
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@GlenH7 Yeah, but then they can deal with the difference between legal and license questions and we won't have to.
 
user41796
5:36 PM
The recent one trying to collect a list of "safe" open source licenses was pretty low quality; especially since the OP was updating with a running of list of perceived good & bad.
 
user41796
Here it is. I'm a bit shocked it's still open:
 
user41796
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Q: What kinds of Open-Source licenses are NOT OK to use internally in a corporation?

toddmoI have recently learned about several cool open source add-on tools and libraries for Microsoft Visual Studio. The tools just help you be more productive; the libraries would get linked into the corporate code base. I have listed all these cool tools and libraries on a spreadsheet and I'm going ...

licensing open-source
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
@GlenH7 FTFY.
With a comment.
 
user41796
Thanks! I even up voted your comment to help bump it above the cut. I'm half tempted to suggest a feature request on MSE to automatically close questions when a comment thread gets past N comments.
 
user41796
There seems to be a correlation between the number of comments and the question being low quality.
 
Thomas Owens
Thomas Owens
5:52 PM
@GlenH7 Lock, not close.
It does raise a mod flag, though.
But a lot of times, when I see that flag, I don't have the time or energy to read a 20+ comment thread.
 
user41796
@ThomasOwens close and delete, not lock. ;-)
 
user41796
With a custom reason of "too many comments."
 
whatsisname
whatsisname
6:17 PM
it's kind of sad the degree of confusion over software licenses
 
durron597
durron597
 
whatsisname
whatsisname
im speaking about the licenses themselves
 
Duga
Duga
This is often referred to as a Canary Deployment Strategy, but I've not seen it done with Chef yet. There is a SO tag dedicated to it but with only 3 questions. If you want some more reading, see if Programmers.SE or Server Fault have equivalent tags. — Patrick M 14 secs ago
 
Steven Burnap
Steven Burnap
It would be nice if there was a good question/answer around that topic, but I agree that that particular question was not it.
 
user41796
6:41 PM
I can haz homeworkz?
 
enderland
enderland
@GlenH7 sure
given x1=10, x2=15, find x3:
sin(x1+x2)^4=x3
 
user41796
Yeah, yeah, that's great. Why don't you code that up for me and let me know what I should turn in for my homework....
 
user41796
Development goals are so ... bleh.
 
Ampt
Ampt
public static void main(String[] args) {
        while(1) {
            System.out.println("I'm a dunce!");
        }
    }
 
durron597
durron597
@Ampt DNC
 
user41796
6:50 PM
This year is a bit worse than others. Pretty much every level of the organization above me is "pushing down" development / performance goals. Only the stuff my boss has "suggested" has any direct applicability to daily work.
 
Ampt
Ampt
formatting is hard...
 
durron597
durron597
@GlenH7 Have you managed to get legacy silverlight code off your shoulders?
@Ampt Still doesn't compile (hint: java has strong types)
 
user41796
@durron597 Guess what one of my "goals" for the year is...
 
durron597
durron597
@GlenH7 your goals or their goals?
 
user41796
Does it matter? </cynicism>
 
durron597
durron597
6:53 PM
@GlenH7 Well, if it's your goal, it would be "get this project to a state where you never have to look at it again", if it's theirs, it might be "deliver sustained support for this product for the rest of the calendar year, then reevaluate in 2016"
 
Ampt
Ampt
@durron597 It's pseudo code :P
 
durron597
durron597
@Ampt Ya know, this is where technical debt comes from
 
Ampt
Ampt
yeah, don't do that
 
user41796
@Ampt That's what he was whining about
 
Ampt
Ampt
for the last time
do not edit my posts without my consent
 
user41796
6:54 PM
@Ampt reverted
 
Ampt
Ampt
thank you
@durron597 from unpaid interns?
:P
 
enderland
enderland
"hey this seems like it might work like this"
"Great push it and go"
"no I mean..."
 
durron597
durron597
All these programmers writing code without any sense of style or care. *sniff* whatever happened to standards
 
enderland
enderland
"yes, it works, right?"
 
user41796
@durron597 YAGNI
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
6:55 PM
from highly paid ignoramuses.
 
durron597
durron597
@GlenH7 Back in my day, we had to write code that could walk uphill in the snow 15 miles every day. Backwards.
 
user41796
@durron597 Oh, a C library of function pointers then
 
Ampt
Ampt
and we optimized our programs after the optimizer
 
durron597
durron597
Kids these days don't know how easy they have it. Monads, design patterns, singletons
I remember what it was like to write code with a magnetized NEEDLE
Nowadays it's all "oh, my pseudocode doesn't need to be syntactically correct"
 
whatsisname
whatsisname
lol standards
 
Ampt
Ampt
7:00 PM
@durron597 I'm posting a joke in a chat room :P
 
durron597
durron597
And to top it off, people can't even be bothered to keep up with their jokes long after they've stopped being funny anymore!
 
Ampt
Ampt
@durron597 sorry, what were we talking about again?
 
durron597
durron597
@Ampt I think we were talking about how common ADHD is in America these days
 
Ampt
Ampt
nah, we have pills for that
It starts with an R.... uh.... Raspberry flavored ice cream is the flavor of the day?! We need to go to culvers!
 
durron597
durron597
@Ampt Sweet!
 
enderland
enderland
7:15 PM
I'm curious about stuff like ADHD and how much environment/culture affects that
 
durron597
durron597
@enderland I am 100% convinced that ADHD is caused by flashing lights
In particular, television and video games
 
enderland
enderland
I'm pretty close to that, but having literally no idea of any research behind it I'm harder pressed to be 100% conclusive ha
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
oh yes, the bane of humanity.
 
durron597
durron597
@Telastyn TV & video games or adhd?
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
television
 
Ampt
Ampt
7:32 PM
Television is only the bane of humanity because people lack self control
moderation is the key to television, as with anything else
 
Telastyn
Telastyn
</sarcasm>
 
user15026
Wooo, booked another interview this week :D
 
Ampt
Ampt
yes, if you plop your 4 year old in front of one for 12 hours a day because it keeps them quiet... oh. Well then I guess I misread that
@AshleyNunn CORNGRATULATIONS!
(man I really hope it's for a corn farm)
 
user15026
have one tomorrow, and one wednesday :D
 
Ampt
Ampt
woot woot!
 
enderland
enderland
7:39 PM
YAYAYAYYAYAYYAYA
 
user15026
Also I have melon flavoured Ramune. today cannot get any better.
 
Ampt
Ampt
...melon?
 
user15026
@Ampt mhm!
 
user55340
7:51 PM
@AshleyNunn apply for cupcake maker?
 
user55340
Gah. Diamond question is a mess.
 
user15026
@MichaelT If anyone around me wanted a cupcake maker I would be all over that
 
user55340
8:11 PM
@AshleyNunn wouldn't that get messy?
 
user15026
@MichaelT laughs maybe
 
user55340
I'm picturing Scrooge mcduck in a vault of cupcakes.
 
user15026
Okay, that would be kinda messy
 
user55340
 
user55340
s/gold/frosting/
 
whatsisname
whatsisname
9:57 PM
man wide angle lenses for EF-S are hard to come by
wider than 15mm
 
user55340
10:07 PM
@whatsisname they are hard to make well. Lots of fall off and issues with well shadow.
 
whatsisname
whatsisname
it would be nice to have more money
 
user55340
It's easy to design a short lens. But you've got to make it retrofocus because of the flange distance (penalty for shorter lenses and smaller sensors). Sure you don't need as big a circle, but that's only one thing.
 
user55340
Short lens means more light fall off at the edge. Way to fix that fall off is a bigger circle, which we just ruled out.
 
user55340
Then the light needs to be parallel with the photo well walls on the sensor. If not, a shadow which looks like more lens fall off.
 
Duga
Duga
10:24 PM
@PaŭloEbermann your reasoning is faulty. I answered the question because OP asked it; I flagged it because I had to do a liberty of reinterpreting the question to be even able to answer it. I downvoted it, because it doesn't help with coding nor debugging - IMO this is a great question for Programmers.SE, but not for SO. As such, I see no reason why I shouldn't answer the questions I consider borderline here. — vaxquis 1 min ago
@corsiKa thank you for your kind words, yet we can safely agree that we disagree on the validness of this question. A question why was computer language designed in a specific way is, IMO, blatantly off-topic on SO, and completely valid on e.g. Programmers.SE. — vaxquis 54 secs ago
 
psr
psr
@Duga I purged it from my backup files because I am a patriot, I drink to its memory because I am a gentleman.
 
durron597
durron597
@Duga I can't decide if that compareTo question is on topic
 
whatsisname
whatsisname
I'm familiar with the troubles of making good lenses
 
durron597
durron597
for SO. I think it must be.
 
whatsisname
whatsisname
but I'm also a cheapskate
 
durron597
durron597
10:31 PM
It has 4 CVs but I don't like those reasons
 
Duga
Duga
That doesn't add up. If you're saying it's off topic, then it's off topic. But you said it was too broad and primarily opinion based. Thus, it shouldn't be migrated ever. But again, the design of an API is completely within the realm of SO. And completely within the realm of Programmers. It's an area of overlap between the two. — corsiKa just now
 

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