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Seth

Yep. That's him.

jrg

@Seth HAX

Seth

4:55 PM

lol.

hi

hi

Hello @xRobot

gets popular question badge...on question with 2 upvotes

Seth

5:11 PM

@CallmeV I got one with 1 vote.

I actually got notable question on it too.

1 vote.

jokerdino

maybe you got one too many votes.

Call me V

:/

user19161

Hey @jrg is it correct that mods know whenever serial downvotes are reversed by the script who the downvoter is?

user19161

Hey @seth I am now the black square, lol.

Seth

@JasperLoy :)

I came to the maths room yesterday, but you had gone to bed.

jokerdino

5:16 PM

@JasperLoy can't reveal that bit of info.

Seth

That would be a yes I suppose.

You guys always say "no" when it's not :P

user19161

@jokerdino I am not asking them to reveal the downvoter, I am just asking if mods know.

jokerdino

@Seth No~

Call me V

Signed NDA. Can't talk about it. Let it go.

jokerdino

You just pulled that trick on me. Boo

Seth

5:18 PM

You can see it happened anyway.

user19161

@CallmeV I think there are some things that can be asked and answered...

Call me V

Probably so. I just leave it alone.

user19161

Wow, some vicious person downvoted me 4 times yesterday, lol.

Seth

@jokerdino :P

@JasperLoy I saw that......

user19161

There are manyu backstabbers in Math SE.

user19161

5:19 PM

@Seth Haha, you were stalking me. =)))

jokerdino

lol

Seth

It's hard to tell you from V now...

user19161

@Seth It's hard to tell you from JB, lol.

Seth

@JasperLoy No, I was just checking to see if you had been serial downvoted.

Since you were asking about it...

@JasperLoy :/

user19161

@Seth Haha, and I would say yes, considering there were 4 in 2 min.

jokerdino

5:20 PM

April 1 is around the corner. :/

Seth

Probably.

@jokerdino \o/

Everybody get dino gravatars :P

user19161

@jokerdino What a stupid day.

jokerdino

@Seth And I get a homo sapiens one \o/

user19161

Hey who starred that?

6

Seth

@jokerdino o_O

user19161

5:22 PM

@Seth I=JB=Seth. QED.

Seth

That had to be said :P

@CallmeV askubuntu.com/questions/276175/lubuntu-desktop-ui-alternative

Someone needs to go make review lively... Its so dead now that all our editors have graduated...

user19161

@Seth Haha, if I were on Ubuntu SE, I could aim for copy editor...

Call me V

@Seth You can make Lubuntu/openbox pretty-ish with widgets, but it's not a pseudo-package of awesome. You have to tweak and tweak and tweak

Seth

@CallmeV Answer away... :)

jokerdino

@JasperLoy And Marshal

user19161

5:26 PM

@jokerdino I don't like to flag stuff.

Seth

@JasperLoy COPY EDITAR

@JasperLoy Lots of garbage for you to flag here.... without getting them rejected.

@JasperLoy That's the irony XD

user19161

It's really amazing how some people love to edit my correct posts into wrong ones lol

FEichinger

Interesting. I just received my first genuine SPAM mail in over a year.

Seth

heh.

Lucky you.

FEichinger

It went to my business address, which didn't even exist two months ago.

Seth

5:27 PM

Re got handbag and watch ads yesterday... by an unregistered user.

again

@jokerdino Can you tell me if required registration is enabled? Or can you tell anyway..

jokerdino

it isn't enabled yet.

Seth

Errg.

there is no reason not to enable account registration on AU at this point. — Jeff Atwood Mar 25 at 18:58

jokerdino

> That said, I think it's warranted at this point on AU.

From Shog's post.

And I raised it a couple times to Shog before all of these issues. Maybe that had an influence on his opinion :P stealing credit

user19161

I think we should not allow unregistered users...

Seth

@JasperLoy that.

@jokerdino lol. No credit until you succeed :P

user19161

5:32 PM

@Seth Hmm, I think the person who downvoted me 4 times is probably a high rep user, so the mods decided not to suspend him, lol.

jokerdino

He wanted some data and I got lazy.

Seth

@JasperLoy Fun fun fun.

jokerdino

4 times is too little for any action.

maybe 10+ and you got some real stuff.

user19161

@jokerdino Yeah they got reversed by the script though.

Seth

@JasperLoy Go praise the moderators :P

@mateo_salta askubuntu.com/questions/276169/… Maybe you can answer that..

FEichinger

5:41 PM

@Seth Aren't both examples CSS-based?

Seth

I don't know..

That doesn't affect the question though.

mateo_salta

well, you can put it on the graphic as well...

FEichinger

@Seth Obviously. I just find the examples weird in that context.

Seth

Sure.

mateo_salta

I thought is was easy, something like effects -> drop-shadow , or something like that..

I'll double check

might be better for the graphic design site, kind of quasi on-topic just it because of using a program in ubuntu.

Seth

5:47 PM

It got an off-topic vote...

@mateo_salta It is on topic.

From the FAQ:

> We welcome questions about:

> Running third-party applications on Ubuntu.

mateo_salta

yeah, but if he wants more on the specifics of making a good drop-shadow... might be diffrent

Seth

Sure. I know. Question is rather vague at the moment.

FEichinger

@Seth And I still disagree with this meaning "If you run it on ubuntu, go ask! Whatever it is, just ask!"

Seth

@FEichinger meta.

FEichinger

@Seth I got Eliah'd.

4

Seth

5:52 PM

@FEichinger LOL

When?

mateo_salta

ah man, stop making me laugh, I'm making a drop-shadow tutorial

user19161

Bye @seth!

FEichinger

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A: Let's reopen this on-topic question about using Ubuntu software in Ubuntu

For the most part, I have yet to understand what exactly this question is about. Is it an issue that arises on Ubuntu in particular, because some information is not found, or not relayed? Is it an issue that arises with Firefox itself, because it is simply not intended? Is it a bug? I haven't...

Seth

@JasperLoy Bye!

FEichinger

thttp:// is not a valid protocol, Firefox. Learn to correct that on your own.

mateo_salta

5:54 PM

arg, the "firefox" one, and then after all that google got rid of reader.

Seth

@mateo_salta apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/google-graveyard/…

With all due respect, you have not applied this line of thought elsewhere. You've answered non-Ubuntu-specific questions here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here, just for starters. — Eliah Kagan Jan 4 at 2:57

@FEichinger Oh man. ROTFL

jrg

@JasperLoy can't answer that.

FEichinger

@Seth That was the point at which I started telling myself "Eliah posted. Just stop. You can't win this one."

Seth

@FEichinger Nope.

@jrg We got the answer anyway... :P

jrg

:)

The Glitch Mob is really cool.

Seth

5:58 PM

Heh.

Call me V

@jrg glitch mob is awesome

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Theone Manis

Anyone know what's wrong with this command provided by oli? askubuntu.com/a/276105/36459

I get "This response was compressed using GZip, but the data was corrupt." error. (see comments)

FEichinger

@TheoneManis The question is ... just what does the server send back?

Theone Manis

@FEichinger I don't understand

FEichinger

6:05 PM

@TheoneManis Content-Encoding: gzip, without actually gzip-encoded data throws that error.

So, if the data it gets is not compressed, for whatever reasons, that might be the cause.

Theone Manis

@FEichinger No way! I can see that the file sizes have decreased tremendously!

My website: aahank.com if you want to take a look

FEichinger

@TheoneManis Sure, but are you sure that's actually what's being sent? As in, are you sure it isn't decompressed upon sending? For instance: Has Content-Length changed from before applying compression?

Theone Manis

@FEichinger No. The thing is, it's all served by S3. And S3 doesn't decompress and stuff.

I compress (gzip), send to S3 via s3cmd and that's it. No decompression on the serverside

FEichinger

Hmmm ... weird.

jrg

@CallmeV indeed

synergy is awesome.

Theone Manis

6:13 PM

@FEichinger yeah :-/

Call me V

@jrg synergy might have more of a wow factor for me if i had more than one box still

jrg

@CallmeV yeah, i'm investigating it for work.

since we have all these commodity hardware things, i figured i'd have some fun with them.

Call me V

just don't tell me you're trying to get it to work with VMX

jrg

Vintela Management Extensions?

Call me V

i might be slipping and it's vms. old hardware platform with loads of daughter boards designed with DEP before DEP was a thing

jrg

6:25 PM

ah

i'm just going to install chrunchbang on all of them, and manage them via puppet

Call me V

have fun with it. my plate is quite full at the moment

jrg

and then setup a elasticsearch cluster, a hadoop cluster, and have fun.

George Edison

o/

Call me V

o/ @GeorgeEdison - do you know if linux supports fat binaries (dual architecture C/C++ libraries)

i know macos has it as a thing, but google has been relatively fruitless

George Edison

@CallmeV I don't believe so. ELF binaries only support a single architecture as far as I know.

But one could write their own program loader that uses a custom executable format. That would be very complicated and difficult though.

mateo_salta

6:30 PM

well, basic drop shadow how to done, lets see if he wanted something more complex in mind.

Call me V

@GeorgeEdison Fair enough. Probably not worth it.

George Edison

Here's an idea. Have an i686 binary that statically links against libc6 that contains both a i686 and amd64 binary. Then at runtime, it extracts and runs the appropriate binary.

Call me V

I'm going for zero footprint (I can't write to disk). So x86 and some finagling I suppose.

George Edison

Well it's still a possibility without writing to disk.

You could create some pages in memory, mark them as executable, and write the actual executable machine code there.

Call me V

Static x86 python and pure python modules looks the most do-able for this thing. Thanks for taking some thought time at it anyway.

George Edison

6:47 PM

One last question - is asking each user to make sure the i686 libs are installed an option?

As long as the user has the i686 libs installed, they can run an i686 executable on an amd64 OS.

Call me V

It has to be fully stand-alone

The other real option is to do "is kernel arch x86? if yes continue, else popen(x64binary)"

The other tricky part is I can't link against specific versions, so I have to dynamically load and check...

George Edison

Ah.

Does anyone know why there's suddenly a huge surge in Bitcoin usage? I'm actually very surprised.

Dan Hulme

gah

stupid blu-rays

I just rented two new ones and they don't like my KEYDB.cfg :-(

mateo_salta

7:25 PM

I think we need off-topic for answers too.

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SOLVED!!! For easy understanding, the below instructions are shown in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmyPbhwjBn0 Since this problem is related to the operating system of any computer, this solution works for any other video player which has the same problem on screensavers. How to...

FEichinger

@mateo_salta NAA

mateo_salta

also this guy has all the same answers so far askubuntu.com/users/145578/szabi

Suhaib

If I edit this question to be specific to text editors, NOt IDEs, Is there a chance it will be reopened ?askubuntu.com/questions/96379/…

0

Q: what text editors are available for ubuntu

Possible Duplicate: What IDEs are available for Ubuntu? Alternatives to LibreOffice What Text Editors are available for Ubuntu? I would like text editors for all usages. Programming Writing Hex editing

software-recommendation programming text-editor

mateo_salta

probably not...

Suhaib

but It is a good question, I was looking for simple and fast text editors just to edit a couple of things, and listing these editors in one question is really beneficial.

mateo_salta

7:39 PM

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Q: Are list type questions allowed on this site?

There are quite a few list type questions that are present in the site. Are these type of questions alright and/or encouraged ? From Oli: I'm marking this as featured. I would like to have a proper discussion about the future of list questions. If you have a view on the subject, please share it...

discussion featured

you could try based on this:

8

A: On-topic? What games can be played by two people on the same computer

The reason we're so cautious on software-recommendations tags is that some have the propensity to quickly turn into infinite-lists-of-X threads. That is a dozen or so people each posting nine or ten answers. The thread sprawls out over fifteen pages and nobody gets to see half the answers (a frac...

Suhaib

thanks for the links, I understand olis point of view. But these list questions have helped me alot. one example is the question, What IDEs are available for Ubuntu. Without it I would have never learned that emacs, vim etc can be used as IDEs

Seth

@Suhaib That question covers the same ground that the duplicates do, even if they are about text editors for programming.

Oh, wait.

Not the right one.

mateo_salta

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Q: Recommendation for editors

I like Notepad++ under Windows. I was wondering if there are some similar ones for Ubuntu? Or just the powerful and convenient one in your opinion. ADDED: Features that I like are "syntax highlighting for language X, theme support, line numbering, code folding, regex style", .... Powerful yet n...

software-recommendation editor

Seth

39

Q: What is a good text editor for developing code on?

Trying to learn python, and I was wondering if there are any favorite text editors that are good for noobs?

software-recommendation python text-editor ide

That one is pretty much the same thing.

@mateo_salta Ah, that one is even better.

Suhaib

Ya, the link @mateo_salta posted is almost what I was looking for

mateo_salta

7:47 PM

1

Q: What is a good substitution to Notepad++?

Possible Duplicate: What is a good text editor for developing code on? I'm getting into programming, and am wanting to find a good substitution to Notepad++, are there any good ones?

software-recommendation

each one has like a bazillion answers

Suhaib

Can we clean up the answers ? I see alot of duplicates :-s @Seth @mateo_salta

Should I flag and downvote ?

mateo_salta

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Q: Microsoft OneNote alternative?

Is there any program for Linux that has about the same functionality and usability as Microsoft OneNote? At the moment I am checking out Basket (for KDE), that seems to point to the right direction, but still lacks much of the functionality of OneNote and is very buggy unfortunately. For those o...

software-recommendation wine alternative

Suhaib

lol

mateo_salta

well, I guess thats a bit different

Suhaib

ya, But most of the answers are similar

although OneNote is not realted but i really liked it.

nice find

George Edison

7:54 PM

I made a very substantial edit to this question:

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Q: How to obtain the geometry of an X window using Bash?

I am looking for a way to retrieve information (specifically geometry) about an X window in a bash script and perform some action depending on the value. For example, if the window is positioned somewhere between 0x0 and 40x40, I want to take a specific action. Otherwise, I need the script to ta...

xorg bash

Can anyone confirm that I haven't altered the underlying intent of the original?

mateo_salta

oh, this one asks which is the "best"

Jai

@Seth you got a minute ?

mateo_salta

2

Q: Best text editor for Linux

What is the best text editor for ubuntu, mostly used for web development. Or a good all-round software like a IDE.

programming text-editor

Suhaib

@mateo_salta, What about "command line text editors ?

Jai

Hi all , how can I send current value of RAM into a variable from free command ?

Suhaib

7:57 PM

Do you know if someone has asked this question before ?

George Edison

@Suhaib nano works well for me.

mateo_salta

cat ;p

Jai

could somebody help me please

Suhaib

OK, so we got. nano, vi, vim... what else ?

Jai

@Suhaib kate,gedit,emacs

mateo_salta

8:00 PM

5

Q: Best terminal unix editor to suggest to someone?

What's the best terminal editor to suggest to a unix newbie? i.e. not vim or emacs. There are a few editors, joe, nano, etc. Some have easy to remember commands / keyboard shortcuts, others don't. I'm looking for an editor that one could talk someone through over the phone with, for remote sysa...

editor

George Edison

@Jai Kate and Gedit are not run from the terminal.

Suhaib

@Jai, I wish I can help you. But I'm really noob

Jai

@GeorgeEdison ok i thought he is asking about GUI because I came in middle actually . sorry

@Suhaib well I want to send current RAM value into a variable

Suhaib

@mateo_salta, thanks. I will flag this question so that they migrate it to askubuntu. lol

@Jai, all I can think of is piping

Seth

@Jai not exactly...

Jai

8:04 PM

@Suhaib I am not that much good with BASH . free command can help me but how can I take that field I m not getting .

Seth

But I'll be bouncing around.

Jai

@Seth sure no problem :)

Seth

This got reopened: askubuntu.com/questions/260528/… errg.

George Edison

What's wrong with that?

Seth

@Jai If you tell me what you need I'll get to it ASAP

@Suhaib No not in this case.

Those questions are quite old.

@GeorgeEdison List type questions belong closed IMO.

Jai

8:05 PM

@Seth how can I store current RAM value at a variable ?

George Edison

@NicolasRaoul I think that's about as perfect as it can get. — Oli Mar 5 at 13:10

^--- That's the last thing Oli said about the question.

Suhaib

@Jai, Do you know how to output the current RAM value to the terminal ?

Jai

well free -m can give us that value with other details but I dont want them . I just want only free RAM value .

Seth

Oh, no that wouldn't do it.

I'll look around.

Jai

yup tried fastly :P

yeah @Seth. I will also try . I thought awk can help me but I havent used it in a proper way .

Suhaib

8:10 PM

Can you use /proc/something

cat /proc/ramFooo

Jai

I think no

Seth

@Suhaib Worth a look.

grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo

For a start

Suhaib

Or he can take the unnecessary results and somehow filter the one he wants

Seth

Yup. sed outa be able to do that.

I just don't know how to use it :P

Suhaib

lol, Ya. I am not really an expert too

Jai

8:18 PM

I came to another unknown thing while looking for the present issue.

@Seth oh man , you are too fast. just now only I have posted.

Seth

:)

I used to know why that was so too... But I forgot :P

Jai

:)

so you have any Idea about that command ? spending part of RAM doesnt sounds good to me but there should be a reason

ok all. Its very late here . I am sleepy .

good night . lets try tomorrow .

@Seth @Suhaib Good night . bye. :)

Seth

@Jai Night!

I'll keep looking...

Jai

@Seth Thank you very much . :D

Seth

No problem.

Jai

8:22 PM

@Seth :) :)

mateo_salta

8:39 PM

@jai if you just want the numbers from what @Seth put

grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo | sed 's/[A-Za-z:]*//g' | sed 's/^[ \t]*//;s/[ \t]*$//'

Seth

Sweet.

mateo_salta

removes all letters and the : , then deletes the spaces

Seth

What does the g do?

I didn't understand that from the manpages..

mateo_salta

s is to "match pattern" so find this "A-z..." the replace it with g which is "Copy/append hold space to pattern space." since we didn't hold anything I think that is a way to make it just replace it with nothing. (I think)

Seth

Ah, got it.

I did find it weird that there didn't seem to be a simple way to delete anything...

mateo_salta

8:46 PM

I just goggled it, unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/… , and pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt

Seth

My bash is very bad.

Which is very bad.

Takkat

9:54 PM

Yeah, sure, will do that.

> Removing the packages can take several hours.

Should I be worried?

Ah - no worries - it took minutes rather than hours. :)

Cool - do-release-upgrade via SSH in an hour or so. \o/

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

10:42 PM

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Q: Unable to upgrade Cinnamon with Linux Mint 13

I would like to upgrade to the latest version of Cinnamon. I'm running Linux Mint 13 in a virtual machine. Everywhere I look, I see the same instructions: > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install cinnamon When I d...

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Oli

Can somebody else +1 this post so the OP can post images, please?

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Q: Why does my application behave differently with Unity?

I'm the newly appointed application maintainer for a program called "xlog". The program works fine in all but the Unity environment. It is written using Gtk2. I've never previously used Unity. I noticed in Unity that the menu bar seems to be "redirected" to another place outside of my appli...

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Dan Hulme

@Oli done

Seth

Double done.

@Oli BTW can you synomize man to manpage please?

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