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11:01 AM

lol

@jokerdino: I don't think your main profile determines if it shows you're an op on chat

jokerdino

It does. ;)

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Q: Clarification requested about nominees' "statistics" posted on the 2013 Moderator Election page

On the Nominations page, why is it "meta participation" that is used to describe nominees' participation and not just "site participation" or "Ask Ubuntu participation" or "Stack Exchange participation"? Example: meta participation questions: a / +aa answers: b / +bb helpful flags: ccc

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jokerdino

evil ninja edits doing me in

Bruno Pereira

@jokerdino just follow the simple rule of counting to 300 while holding your breath ;)

jokerdino

Usually, I start counting from 290 until 300.

Takkat

11:20 AM

Don't count in 1000 fractional digits. Please breathe again now!

gertvdijk

11:45 AM

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Q: ubuntu 12.04 is crashing when i press windows button in my laptop

I have installed ubuntu on my laptop(dell inspiron 1464), when i press Windows button/Win +F1/Windows+F2 button it is showing blue screen. did any one is facing the same issue, can any one help

12.04

^-- this is almost funny

in several ways.

Bruno Pereira

- doctor, doctor, my fingers hurts when I bend it
- stop doing it man!

Takkat

A blue screen in Ubuntu inevitably must be malware.

gertvdijk

@Takkat Depends. Maybe he installed KDE and his blue background of the desktop is shown. I won't be surprised if it's that simple anyway.

Bruno Pereira

@Takkat I hear some malware can live inside your graphics card and survive reboots

gertvdijk

@BrunoPereira really? that's scary

Bruno Pereira

11:53 AM

@gertvdijk was wondering why your name sounded weird and familiarly normal to pronounce...

gertvdijk

@BrunoPereira What's weird about abbreviating a real name?

Bruno Pereira

@gertvdijk I dont normally read them (too many, too much details), just noticed you live a couple of kms from me :)

gertvdijk

lol :)

Yeah, well, quite a lot of Dutch people here, relatively speaking in terms of world population.

vasa1

12:11 PM

New tags are a touchy issue but what about error code (1)? A search using Ask Ubuntu's search box for "error code (1)" came up with 376 hits.

jrg

@vasa1 ugh, we tried to kill the error tag before, don't bring it back, please! :)

github.com/discourse/discourse < so waffles (samsaffron) and Jeff Atwood at working together on this thing that's kind of like SO, but not. Interesting.

gertvdijk

@vasa1 exit status 1 is the most common one for applications to exit with in case of errors.

vasa1

12:39 PM

@jrg, @gertvdijk, I've wiped it from my mind :)

jrg

1:01 PM

yay! :)

maggotbrain

1:33 PM

morning, folks!

FEichinger

heya

jrg

Oh man, this is cool. I will use this a lot more. blog.dustinkirkland.com/2013/02/…

maggotbrain

Wow. It took about a year and a half to close that web browsers thread

maggotbrain

1:53 PM

@jrg That's a nifty little feature, there.

gertvdijk

2:07 PM

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A: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory

In the terminal do as sudo cp /usr/lib32/crti.o /usr/bin/ld Then try again.

What? Are you suggesting to overwrite the system file /usr/bin/ld (executable, the GNU linker) with an compiled .o file? — gertvdijk 1 min ago

am I wrong here? I think this will just break it all.

maggotbrain

@gertvdijk Just saw that. I am hoping snow just made a typo.

gertvdijk

@maggotbrain thanks

maggotbrain

2:21 PM

I am doing some housekeeping on my activities and I noticed that I have a few flags that are disputed. In hindsight, they seem like reasonable disputes. Is there a way to retract my flags, or are these permanent?

jokerdino

They are permanent.

You can never take back a flag.

maggotbrain

hmm. OK. Thanks. I guess I had an itchy trigger finger on a couple items.

gertvdijk

Some of my disputed ones were flags I raised too quickly. Q/As were ninja-edited and the flag couldn't be retracted...

maggotbrain

Same here.

gertvdijk

But in the beginning I was flagging posts with poor formatting, low quality english, etc. as well.

I've learned not to do that anymore

I was told that moderators should only be notified in case it was something that other user's couldn't.

jokerdino

2:24 PM

Everyone hates the low quality flag.

Or atleast the mods handling those flags.

fossfreedom

@gertvdijk that is a very very true statement

gertvdijk

So, out of the 11 disputed and 2 declined I think about 10 were just because I didn't know about that.

It's not very trivial coming from the non-SE world. And the flagging dialogue isn't very explanatory on that.

jokerdino

I recall I never flagged anything as very low quality.

FEichinger

I flagged some stuff I considered unsalvagable. To which I was proven wrong, though.

But I like to think my flags got the attention of the people who did manage to salvage it. :D

jokerdino

People always love to contradict you. I like that as a fact.

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2:28 PM

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Q: Unity lens (ubuntu) not scanning a specific directoy

What can I do to force unity lenses (locate in the background, I suppose) to scan a specific directory? The setting are not excluding the folder, and the rest is working OK. Is there a way to purge Unity/lenses or locate? I wouldn't mind to lose all past searches and start again from null.

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maggotbrain

@jokerdino Very true. I'm learning a lot about patience with other people here. ;-)

gertvdijk

Speaking about disputed flags... I just got one more disputed which I completely don't understand.

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A: How to disable Grub's menu from showing up after failed boot

As I had the same problem and figured out the following solution: Open /etc/default/grub with an editor Add a line with this assignment: GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=N Set N to the desired timeout in case of a previously failed boot Update Grub: sudo update-grub

^-- I've marked this one as "invalid flag". Was marked as "not an answer". I've improved formatting and I think this is an answer.

jokerdino

@maggotbrain Haha, you just need to be keen about psychology and sociology. :)

@gertvdijk I'll explain that in a moment.

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Q: What is a disputed flag?

In my flagging summary under the statistics, there is 1 flag listed as being disputed with the footnote † do not affect your flag weight This is the first time I've ever seen a disputed flag in my summary, so I'm just curious, what is a disputed flag? How would you even dispute a flag? Is ...

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Ah, better still

gertvdijk

@jokerdino No, my dispution got disputed.

smartboyhw

@gertvdijk LOL

jokerdino

2:38 PM

No, if you mark something as invalid, it is labeled as disputed.

> Both the original flag and the flag used to mark it as invalid will be listed as "disputed" in the respective user's flagging summary.

gertvdijk

@jokerdino yes I understand that :) but my "invalid flag" raised my counter on disputed flags.

@jokerdino I can read that in two ways

jokerdino

Yes, your invalid flag is the one being called disputed as well.

gertvdijk

Now that is totally confusing.

jokerdino

Well, you never read that meta.SO post, did you?

gertvdijk

Why isn't disputing flags with flags itself considered helpful? Call me crazy, but I think noone understands this.

@jokerdino I did read it. But I am interpreting it differently

jokerdino

2:40 PM

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Q: Am I using the "Invalid Flag" flag wrongly?

It seems that each time I've flagged a flag as an "Invalid Flag", it's been disputed. I know that this doesn't affect my flag weight, but that's not why I'm starting this topic; I'm worried that I'm using the feature wrong, and generally confused as to why this is happening The question here ...

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FEichinger

Semantically, it makes sense.

gertvdijk

@jokerdino that is a better MSO post, thanks :)

FEichinger

You flag it as something, someone else flags it as something else - Both flags exist, neither is agreed upon.

jokerdino

@gertvdijk Well, this one was linked in the previous one.

FEichinger

Yours just overrides the other, thus, semantically - both are disputed, but yours is the one executed.

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2:43 PM

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Q: When to downvote?

Suppose someone asks a question. It has two solutions - one is easier then the other, but the other one has some benefits of its own. For example, there was one question about imagemagick where the solution was either to re-build the package or to download and install the newer version from the ...

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gertvdijk

@FEichinger jeez. While I do understand it, it still does not make sense to me. Thanks anyway! :)

jokerdino

Why it doesn't feel intuitive is because mods cannot handle separate flags on the same post.

so, they just mark the wrong flag as incorrect, which incorrectly marks your right flag as incorrect too.

FEichinger

3:00 PM

17 Dota 2 invites ... -.-

gertvdijk

3:26 PM

askubuntu.com/questions/252004/… <-- @vasa1 duped a question of @LuisAlvarado within 7 minutes. lol.

Bruno Pereira

kickstarter.com/projects/461687407/…

lol

FEichinger

How did that get past Kickstarter's policies? lol

"The only risk is the power of the Force."

Buuut, 20M actually sounds reasonable.

I mean, getting 2M people to back it with 10 doesn't seem hard to do, if it goes viral.

Amith KK

3:56 PM

disappears

Wait

@BrunoPereira did you just abuse your mod powers?

Bruno Pereira

@AmithKK I know, its shameful and I am sorry... (-.-)

Amith KK

@BrunoPereira np lol

I just went "Whaaa Did I type that?"

Bruno Pereira

@AmithKK cool, cause I was really not! :)

;)

Amith KK

Also

Luis Alvarado

@gertvdijk yeah got it hehe. Nice catch by vasa1. Gave him a +1

Amith KK

4:05 PM

if you want to redo the last command with sudo without typing it again, use sudo !!

jokerdino

hey @AmithKK

Amith KK

@jokerdino Hey

jokerdino

Do you know how to add debugger stuff in python?

Amith KK

4:20 PM

@jokerdino ?

What kind of debugging?

jokerdino

ah, actually, never mind. i got it :)

Amith KK

@jokerdino Awesome :P

jokerdino

:P

Amith KK

I nominated myself. Now bombard me with questions please! :P

jokerdino

Yay.

Amith KK

4:27 PM

@jokerdino :P

jokerdino

where was that comment I left for you on chat?

Amith KK

@jokerdino O.o

Good Night

BBT

jokerdino

@AmithKK Nights.

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4:52 PM

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Q: Should there be a common Q&A for how to take delayed screenshots?

Please look at these two questions: Print Screen key doesn't work if a drop-down menu is active and Taking screenshots in Lubuntu (11.10) [duplicate] Although the first question didn't specify a specific desktop environment, the answer there relates to Unity/GNOME. The second question, even th...

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