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also see: github.com/mate-desktop/caja/blob/master/libcaja-private/…

@KazWolfe I think that's the chooser. under the hood caja should use same command line thing I thought

@Anwar er, not necessarily.

@Zanna how do I do that? help a newbie with exact syntax :)

@KazWolfe but at least they share same database?

Well, Caja calls this: developer.gnome.org/gio/stable/…

5:42 PM

@Anwar I'm one too...

So it does something that directly talks to Gnome/GLib.

So no, xdg-mime does not need to be called.

my caja maybe based on gtk-2, since I'm on 1.16. I heard only 1.18+ are using gtk3

still something in glib

so your best bet would be (i think) to attach a strace to caja and see what it's doing.

@Anwar you can do lsof -p $(pgrep caja)

here, @Anwar. This is what gets called at the end of the chain: github.com/GNOME/glib/blob/…

5:47 PM

but strace will be more useful probably

@Zanna Thanks. I got a static list of files. One of them is /home/anwar/.local/share/mime/mime.cache so, I can see which processes use that file I guess

need to go. sorry.

i hate IPv6

it's impossible to make NAT work >.<

@ThomasWard that's the point?

You shouldn't be using NAT for security, anyways.

it's not for security

it's a 1:1 NAT mapping from an external public Host IP to an internal LXD container IP

so even less about security

and more about 1:1 routing

so. shush.

so, wait. You want to map a public IPv6 external address to an LXD link-local IPv6 address?

5:53 PM

no, I want to map a public IPv6 external address to an IPv6 internal address on a bridge that is not link-local'd. I.E. nonatbr0 has fd42:cafe::1/64 on it for the host, and can properly reach in from host -> container and vice versa via the static assigned IPv6 addresses

IIRC, fd42 isn't link-local

FD00::/8 is unique local

yes, it is, which means the /64 underneath there can be treated like the private IP space in IPv4

i'm past that point

unique local and link local aren't the same Kaz lol

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Q: IPv6 1:1 NAT - Not working

I've got a 16.04 system running LXD, and using LXD containers. I'm trying to get three specific external IPv6 addresses routed to a specific container. The external IPv6 would be something like abcd:cafe::1-3/64 being assigned to corresponding LXD internal addresses fd42:cafe::dead:beef:1-3. T...

@ThomasWard kaz.getCoffee() result: 0.05

on an unrelated note, freepbx sucks

@Anwar :) catch you tomorrow hopefully

@NathanOsman almost have dynamic tab adding done, with room titles and favicons

just need a URL inputter

7:10 PM

@KazWolfe Coffee coffee = new Coffee(size.LARGE); kaz.recreate(coffee);

was just about to post my answer when the question got deleted :/

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@Zanna Ouch :( I finished my comic covers collage, by the way. Uploading it to Imgur now, but the 62 Mb are taking some time.

sweet :)

7:22 PM

:D

@NathanOsman ^^

wat

IT'S CORRECT IN CHATSO WHY NOT CHATSE

@NathanOsman we need a privacy policy

@NathanOsman OK made one but it's pretty temporary (an HTML doc in a pastebin lol), so we need an actual way to host it

7:47 PM

derps around with an 800GB hard drive in a server, but no data to put on it

@ThomasWard I'll gladly take it off your hands

also, 800GB? weird size

@TheWanderer it's space on a server lol

not an actual hard drive :p

ohhh kk

but should you all need somewhere to post stuff

points at twenty domains, six additional IP addresses, a Chaos weapon, and fifteen containers currently running on that server

do you wanna try @NathanOsman's and my ~~virus~~ app?

7:50 PM

android? iOS? Satanic Application? C++ pure? Web based?

information required.

Android

i've got an android emulator i can derp around with. But I'll need the APK to load it in - Google Play + Emulator == deathj

my android tablet is... currently being borrowed by the girlfriend

github.com/zacharee/ChatExchange

fooey my android studio went away

redownloads

wat

7:53 PM

@Zanna @RobotHumans Uploaded to Google Drive, as Imgur was acting up (62 megabytes and all that): drive.google.com/open?id=0B0lZcsBY6MJoNnVOX21NYzJISFE

back later :)

@Gallifreyan Imgur has no image size limit. Stack.Imgur does, so you need to just use a personal Imgur account

@TheWanderer I know - still, I wasn't able to upload it (Imgur doesn't work well in this country), so I went for the next best thing.

ah

haha I trustingly downloaded it and tried to open it, system crashed horribly

7:58 PM

@Zanna What?!

totally unanswerable unanswered question

32 secs ago, by Gallifreyan

@Zanna What?!

@Gallifreyan couldn't view it and not trying again

@ThomasWard It's quite a large download when you factor in the SDKs

and the fact that it's IntelliJ...

@AndroidDev maybe you could critique my code

8:00 PM

@Zanna Sorry :'( It causes some stutter on my machine when zooming in, since it's 6k by 30k pixels, but not a crash.

@ThomasWard RAID I assume?

@Gallifreyan it's OK, my machine is a goldfish in terms of RAM

blup blup

@TheWanderer Possibly, although as I've said before I'm not exactly a seasoned android developer yet :)

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I mean, I've been doing this for 2 months

you're probably better

:p

8:03 PM

Ah. Well, I suppose I could take a look. Anything in particular?

anything blatantly stupid

just look through the latest commit @AndroidDev

Wait, what exactly does this app do?

chat client for SE

well to-be

Lol, your commit message is "features?" :P

@AndroidDev hey, it has sub points!

8:07 PM

Oh, I see them now.

Nevermind :)

tsk

Oh my gosh....

odear

I literally just laughed out loud... applicationId "com.huetoyou.chatexchange"

oh yeah lol

that was @NathanOsman's idea xD

I'm honestly not entirely sure why the tabs will change position when the view is recreated

8:11 PM

@TheWanderer What do you mean by that?

there's a TabLayout on the bottom for the chats

when you add a chat, it gets dynamically added to the layout as a tab

and the URL gets added to a Set<String>

when the view is recreated, I have to iterate through that set to add the tabs back

and it seems like they get added in different orders sometimes

actually, it's probably the ASyncTasks doing that...

Interesting

'tis

Wait, how did Nathan commit if he hasn't forked it?

collab

8:15 PM

Ok, so should I fork it or no?

I can add you too

email pls

@TheWanderer UsernameInvalidException@users.noreply.github.com

sent

@TheWanderer Wait it actually sent an email to that address?

I just put your username in

user136984

8:19 PM

@AndroidDev: That's one heck of a weird email...

user136984

:D

@ParanoidPanda I'm not willing to publicly post my real email :)

@AndroidDev github.com/zacharee/ChatExchange/invitations

user136984

@AndroidDev: Quite understandable, just for a moment there I thought it might be real and just crazy! :D

@TheWanderer Accepted

8:21 PM

tada

now you can edit and such

Now, if I were to change something, should I make a new branch or just use master?

just use master

we aren't really being official

although honestly it's your decision :P

@TheWanderer Wat. You aren't using Gradle?

yes we are

@TheWanderer --^

8:24 PM

are you sure you pulled everything?

it might also be easier to just make a new project and copy the files

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Unknown network traffic

The network applet of a Computer running Ubuntu 16.10 shows permanent network traffic and I'd like to find out what it is. top and iotop do not show anything unusual but I have figured out that the network traffic stops when /media/smbData (an SMB-Share of a NAS on the local network) is unmounted...

ubuntu networking samba

Ok, something is screwed up here

AS shows that when I try to import from VCS

yeah it's stuff in Gradle files

@TheWanderer U know how 2 fix? :D

Chan-Ho Suh

@Zanna I hope you are trying to engage with me, rather than seeking to publicly shame. Like most people, I don't much like engaging with people who start off by calling me transphobic and mysogynistic (and yes, I do understand the distinction of calling someone X and calling what someone says X, but I also think it's cheap rhetorics to have to fallback on that distinction).

8:28 PM

@AndroidDev make a new project and then just copy the app build.gradle and Java stuff over?

then set up VCS there

@Chan-HoSuh I did not call you that

runs away ASAP

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^

user136984

^

user136984

God, not this again...

user136984

8:29 PM

Well, I'm not getting involved this time.

This conversation should have been over a long time ago.

Chan-Ho Suh

@Zanna While you see Avery's behavior as educating RobotHumans, I saw it as a way of pressuring him to make a grand confession of wrongdoing. I don't see what I said as wrong, but admittedly it was not entirely sympathetic to her. I did have some, but also some of my sympathy was towards RobotHumans. I don't believe he had any bad intentions.

also not talking about it any more, but it's not going to make me leave if people keep going back and forth on the topic. i'm certainly not poking it to make it worse

@Seth 24hrs later, and it's still going on :P

I propose if you want to continue this topic that you get a separate room.

8:32 PM

@Chan-HoSuh I strongly feel that you misunderstood Avery then. But I've already said all the things I wanted to say about it here. If you want me to explain further, please make a room for it

user136984

@Seth: The question is though... What shall we name this room?

7 hours ago, by Gallifreyan

@ParanoidPanda I don't care

user136984

That's a good name.

@ParanoidPanda The NeverEnding Story

8:33 PM

@TheWanderer Okay, bear with me as I'm still a git when using git (:D) but how would I then set it to push to your repo; and also would that then break it for you?

@RobotHumans It's not taboo, but just not a good discussion for this room.

I didn't reply to Zanna's message for this reason.

@Seth I agree. See my request twice to move it somewhere else.

@AndroidDev I think you can actually try just importing it from GitHub now

maybe

@RobotHumans Right, I saw it.

I don't think you did anything wrong.

@TheWanderer You fixed it? What broke it?

I haven't tested again yet though

8:34 PM

@AndroidDev I think having created the project now, you might be able to make it work like that

idk though

So I don't know if your fix worked

@NathanOsman was the one who did the import, since I made the project

Wait what?

I'm really confused right now

I made the project and uploaded it

@NathanOsman imported to his system and did something to make it work for him, but idk what it was

Ah, I see

user136984

8:36 PM

@Chan-HoSuh As you can see, there was a big discussion of it this morning which even got to a point where a mod was not as impartial as I think they should be given their power.

user136984

But anyway, please do not start this discussion again, I will be silent on the matter now.

user136984

And go and do something more important... Like eat food!

I want pho :(

user136984

@TheWanderer: "Pho"?

Vietnamese rice noodle soup

8:38 PM

do you not know pho??????????

wow

user136984

No, sorry. :P

pho is awesome

like very awesome

o_O

user136984

I'll gave to give a go then sometime.

8:39 PM

Pho is the best!

user136984

But I need to go and eat my pasta now. :)

pho > pasta

user136984

Oh... :D

@ParanoidPanda it might be tricky to get vegetarian pho btw

sorry not sorry

8:39 PM

@TheWanderer Well, maybe not on a hot summer day, but yeah it's pretty good

broth is usually chicken or beef

user136984

Why, what's in it?

@AndroidDev ALWAYS

user136984

Ah, you answered my question before I posted the answer... :D

user136984

Maybe they could serve it with cheese?

user136984

8:40 PM

Or Tofu?

@ParanoidPanda well there are vegetarian versions. I just don't know how common they are

user136984

Or Sprouts? I love Sprouts!

@TheWanderer And also you can get with thin slices of beef too

especially in a different country

chaskes

vegetarian pho is pretty common

8:40 PM

@ParanoidPanda sprouts are default :p

@AndroidDev plis

@ParanoidPanda It does often come with sprouts

@chaskes that's good to hear

user136984

@TheWanderer: Oh good! :D

chaskes

@TheWanderer Are you a vegetarian?

nooooo

I don't have the willpower lol

8:43 PM

@TheWanderer What the...? Now it seems to think it's a project after I downloaded the ZIP???

uh

idek

Oh great, now I have to download the M support repo

lolol

wait why

Because I don't have it downloaded already?

And the build fails without it

but this isn't using M o_O

8:46 PM

What the....

o_O

the SDK version is 25 (7.1)

Why is it that your own projects always build fine, but everyone else's always fail to build?

because Android

I would imagine that iOS isn't that much different

probably worse

8:49 PM

Wat. The. Heck. It builds fine if I download the ZIP from github but fails when I clone the VCS???

@NathanOsman Haaaaalp --^

lol

sed s/vcs/cvs/ maybe? @AndroidDev

Wait I have to sign into this app @TheWanderer?

GitHub login

@RobotHumans wat

8:50 PM

oh yeah it's your SE login @AndroidDev

how else could it be an SE chat app?

user136984

@TheWanderer For a moment there I actually thought you meant Po as in Kung Fu Panda! :D

lol

@TheWanderer Well it could allow you to RO access

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@Seth ok. version control system. not cvs. Sorry, I'm used to work where we have a github for what we work on and svn for pushing to home base. Pretty broken approach but... it's what had me think that

8:51 PM

@TheWanderer read only

@AndroidDev oh that might come later

@RobotHumans I feel your pain.

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for now we just need to actually get it working