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Perhaps ubuntu does not support that type of connection port the dock uses to convert all the ports in the back, sorry for the lack of knowledge but from the top of my head that is what I think it is.

Zanna

3:30 PM

@jokerdino I have one like an astronaut

Android Dev

What should we do with that ^^^ ?

jokerdino

@Zanna Nice~

IanC

so, how was the debate yesterday? :p

edwinksl

only watched halfway, i wasn't able to tolerate it any longer

Android Dev

Yay! YAAGP (Yet Another AMD Graphics Problem): askubuntu.com/questions/830359/amd-a10-8700p-fglrx

IanC

3:37 PM

man, I forgot my food at work, will have to go there on my day off to pick it up

Android Dev

@IanC ooops

Zanna

I can never forget food...

Android Dev

Bye for now

IanC

see you later @AndroidDev

jokerdino

cya @AndroidDev @IanC

IanC

3:41 PM

haven't seen you around in a while @Zanna, how are things going? :)

or maybe I haven't been around as often in a while

Zanna

Going great thanks :)

How about you?

IanC

Doing good! Day has started in a great mood today, sun came out and had a great time surfing this morning :)

Byte Commander

This guy doubled his reputation score today because of my kind edit to his answer... askubuntu.com/a/830215/367990 :-)

A good deed every day

Terrance

@ByteCommander Good guy Byte Commander! You need a meme now. =)

Byte Commander

Oh, and that answer outscored the ones by Zanna, terdon and heemayl by a factor of more than 3...

^_^

le gasp

cl-netbox

3:50 PM

Hello everyone ! :)

Terrance

@cl-netbox Hello! :)

Byte Commander

My boot to ram answer is now score +40 and half of the votes were for free due to the rep cap...

cl-netbox

@Terrance Hi Terrance ! :)

Byte Commander

I could have 200 points for yet another day if those votes would just roll over ;___;

Terrance

@cl-netbox Haven't seen you for a while. How are you?

Byte Commander

3:51 PM

@cl-netbox Hey!

Terrance

Wonders what it would be like to actually score more than 40 points in a day.

terdon

Heh:

Terrance

;)

terdon

$ type cl
cl is aliased to `clear; ls'

I seem to have @cl-netbox aliased :)

cl-netbox

@Terrance I'm fine - I worked a lot with fedora and redhat in the last days ... what about you ? :)

IanC

3:53 PM

I don't know if it's just a coincidence I always end up in Arch's wiki, but is it the most complete distro wiki page?

cl-netbox

@terdon hahaha ... Hi terdon ! Good eevening ! :)

@ByteCommander Hello and good evening ! :)

Terrance

@cl-netbox Nice! Are you a professional now with it? :) I am doing well, still working in the same job working with all those flavors of linux still. :)

cl-netbox

@Terrance No ... far from being a pro with it ... but the systems are great and the people I had contact with are very friendly, so it brings some fun ... :)

Terrance

@cl-netbox Good! Yeah, I have been learning a ton in my job with it too and great people as well. I too am far from a professional, but I do really like working with those. :)

Byte Commander

@IanC Yes it is. And Ubuntu wiki in contrast... sigh

cl-netbox

3:57 PM

@Terrance : Do you know Chris Henderson (Product Manager of red hat) ... he seems to be an awesome guy ... :)

Byte Commander

@ByteCommander use the flag option to make as possible duplicate — Amias 3 mins ago

@Amias I don't need to use a flag, I can directly vote to close as duplicate - which is what I did. You don't need to advise me how to close a question, I'm doing that for over a year now... — Byte Commander 2 mins ago

:-/

Terrance

@cl-netbox I don't. I actually don't know anybody from RedHat themselves. I mainly work with professionals in the data center I am with.

Kaz Wolfe

o/

IanC

@ByteCommander The times I ended up in Ubuntu's wiki it was often outdated

by the way, what is the appeal of Arch? I've heard it's more developers focused, but I'm not sure how

Kaz Wolfe

Arch is lower-level than most other distros

cl-netbox

3:59 PM

@Terrance What I absolutely do appreciate : whenever I contact them, they immediately respond and really try to help solving the problem ! :)

IanC

you use Arch, right @Zanna?

Kaz Wolfe

Much more minimalist, and a decent amount more performance-based as a result

Arch has the mindset of "if you need it, install it" as opposed to just giving you things, like X by default.

Zanna

@ByteCommander not just good for post author but for everyone

Terrance

@cl-netbox That's good. I have never had to contact them, but I know that they give us TONS of support. Maybe one day I will be working on the team that deals directly with them. :)

IanC

@KazWolfe got it, so it's a more raw distro, seems good for learning how things work

Mateo

4:01 PM

wow, looks like commandlinefu is finally going - the parent site absorbed the commands into their "community" pages, and still no way to flag spam comments, also the API broke

Kaz Wolfe

@IanC that would be LFS

Byte Commander

@IanC Yeah, nobody seems to actively maintain it. The whole system is strange.

Zanna

@IanC only in spirit right now, had to give my Arch machine to a friend :) next time an old laptop falls into my hands, I'll install Arch again. And yeah, the wiki is amazing

terdon

chillout mate , just a suggestion — Amias 6 mins ago

He has a point.

Byte Commander

Yeah, I also realized my reply sounded maybe a bit too harsh...

Excused myself.

terdon

4:03 PM

He was just trying to be helpful, no insult intended. I know it's annoying when someone tries to teach you things you know better than they did but, you know, they're the newb, not you :)

Byte Commander

Ah, you cleaned them up. Thanks

terdon

Poor fellow didn't know that voting ton close leaves an automatic comment.

Byte Commander

Yeah, probably.

Mateo

well, looks like the commandline scope is dead because of this change, going to click unpublish :(

IanC

@KazWolfe That's cool! I just opened their website, it's probably hard to finish getting the OS working but after you do you'll have learned a lot

@Zanna The only distros I've installed were Red hat (a loooooong time ago, don't even remember anything from it), Ubuntu and Kali, which I got rid of

I might install some VMs just to check out some other distros

Kaz Wolfe

4:08 PM

yeah, the arch wiki is an amazing resource

it's saved my ass so many times on every Linux version under the sun

terdon

@IanC Actually, as long as you follow the installation guide to the letter, it should work easily enough.

Kaz Wolfe

@terdon oh yeah, arch doesn't have any install tools.

but if you're weak and pathetic, you can just install Arch to a disk image and deploy that.

IanC

@terdon I mean't the LFS distro, but I didn't realize Arch's install was not automated

so they give you a shell, and you do all the installation from there?

terdon

@KazWolfe you still need to install the damn thing, I doubt deploying the image would be easier

@IanC Yes. But it isn't very hard

Kaz Wolfe

@terdon Eh, it works sorta okay over here. I install a base version to my image, handoff the stuff, and deploy that image to VMs.

IanC

4:14 PM

I'll try it on a VM :)

terdon

As long as you know your way around the command line, anyway. Certainly not recommended for new users. Or for anyone who wants a system that "just works". Arch is for people who enjoy tinkering with their system.

@KazWolfe Neat

Kaz Wolfe

it's a full image running on very specific hardware, so it works without an issue

IanC

I'll probably need to read about partitioning from command line, have read about it before but never really used fdisk

every partitioning issue I had to solve was using gparted

Mateo

ah, hm. seems maybe the api still works, maybe just down for a moment, but the website for commandlinefu is a mess

Kaz Wolfe

@Mateo make your own good one?

i can envision something reddit-like, maybe with a bit of community moderation inspiration from SE.

Mateo

4:22 PM

yeah, first they need the ability to flag all those spam comments they have...

Kaz Wolfe

actually, such a website would probably not be the worst

really, just a bunch of backend databases for users, posts, votes, and comments.

Mateo

the key is the community moderation and flagging part that SE has

Kaz Wolfe

so you need some way of gaining/losing rep

Mateo

or a stack site for one line terminal code competition

Kaz Wolfe

in the vein of PPCG?

there's still no Q&A setup there

Mateo

4:31 PM

yeah, you do have to think in reverse

Q: want a command for checking weather

well, mostly what I miss is the green/black theme from commandlinefu...

Zanna

4:45 PM

@IanC I enjoyed writing the partition table a lot :) and I agree with @terdon it's very easy if you just carefully follow the guide, I'm pretty clueless and I did fine :)

Windows 3.1

\o

IanC

@Zanna cool! I'm downloading the .iso file, will give it a try later!

Rinzwind

http://askubuntu.com/a/830405/15811
that is a lie

ksplice is not free

cl-netbox

Rinzy ! :)

Byte Commander

5:01 PM

@Rinzwind anyway, dupe of that other answer directly above it askubuntu.com/a/32687/367990

Rinzwind

boxy

Terrance

@Rinzwind They claim there is a free desktop edition. Do you think it works?

Serg

BOOO

scared anyone ?

Rinzwind

yeah sure but it aint FREE

it does not cost money for desktop sure

but it is 3rd party and binairy

Terrance

Good point! :)

@Serg Yes, I lost my breathe reading that. ;)

@Rinzwind My brain for a moment was not thinking that way. Thank you for clarifying that for me. =)

Rinzwind

5:04 PM

you even need a serial

Serg

@Terrance :D yay, i'm getting bettar at it

Terrance

One would think after 11am here I would be more awake. ;)

Rinzwind

and why the mention of redhat and ubuntu but not suse? :P

Serg

New indicator , answer probably coming up today

Terrance

@Serg Looking good there. Looking forward to it. :D

@Rinzwind They're picky

Byte Commander

5:05 PM

@Serg spoopy

Serg

:D spoopy scawwy , practicing before Halloween

I'll probably make some kind of Halloween script to spoop people

jokerdino

> Software Tester by day , sleeper by night

I like this.

Zanna

Haha :)

cl-netbox

@Serg Hi you indicator-magician :D How are you doing ? :)

Hey @jokerdino ! :) Hi @Zanna 1 :)

jokerdino

hey

Serg

5:11 PM

@cl-netbox Hi, Netbox. I'm having breakfast while working on the indicator. How are you ?

cl-netbox

@Serg fine ... everything good so far ... :)

Zanna

Hi @cl-netbox nice to see you

cl-netbox

@Zanna Thanks - nice to see you too ! :)

Zanna

:)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

5:29 PM

0

Q: Is it possible to upgrade Linux Mint 13 to 18?

I'm using Linux Mint 13 Mate for quite some years now. It is based on Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome but LTS is about to be expired as it is till 26 Apr 2017). I would like to upgrade to the most current version which is Linux Mint 18 which is based on new Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Is it possible to do a direct ...

Rinzwind

@ByteCommander I went over all his answers.. all are ... ehm

0

A: How to install nvidia optimus driver?

Tried the above no luck - here is my post from another attempt to get things fixed. Any help would be much appreciated. I have been trying to get proprietary graphics working with my brand new HP Envy 17 m7-j078 notebook. I had been trying for 2 1/2 years with my previous HP Laptop with no succ...

NAA he even admits it >;)

Serg

Does gnome-disks come preinstalled with Unity ?

@Serg yup

awesome

yes it is

5:40 PM

Hi guys

Rinzwind

Hi guy

Fiksdal

I set up a dual boot of 16.04 and Windows 10 for a friend of mine, then installed an ext4 driver on Windows 10, so he can now access the Ubuntu partition from Windows

Rinzwind

sounds like a disaster waiting to happen

Fiksdal

Windows doesn't respect Ubuntu permissions, right? So if I don't warn him, he might technically be able to go in there and delete important system files, etc, right?

Rinzwind

of course it does not :P It will save anything as "nobody" for user and group unless you setup SAMBA

the ext4 driver should be avoided. install samba :P

Fiksdal

5:43 PM

OK, so my friend could go and delete the whole system folder of the Ubuntu partition just like any other folder?

Wait, are you saying it's even likely that Windows will just mess it up all by itself without my friend doing anything stupid even?

Rinzwind

ehm there is a reason why you do NOT open up Ubuntu to windows and ONLY use a SINGLE directory

(or a partition formatted as NTFS)

Fiksdal

Yeah, like a shared storage partition, I did that too.

OK, so basically, the answer is yes to both my previous questions?

Rinzwind

yes.

Fiksdal

Alright, cool. Haha!

Better uninstall the Ext4 driver then? I don't think he even uses Windows anymore, actually.

Rinzwind

yes use samba It is intended for this

Fiksdal

5:48 PM

Cool.

Rinzwind

btw: if the ext4 driver has a config where you can set user and group and permissiions it might work ;-)

but then it would basically be samba :P

Fiksdal

I see....

It might be a waste of time. He told me he hasn't even booted W10 in months... Better just leave it and tell him to put stuff on the shared exFAT partition.

user136984

6:04 PM

18

Q: Do humans share 50% of their DNA with bananas?

It's widely claimed that we share 50% of our DNA with bananas. Does this have actual basis or is it a myth? Example claims The Mirror (UK), NHGRI

biology genetics

user136984

o.O

user136984

Apparently if you go to the Wikileaks or Pirate Bay websites the NSA put you on a watchlist.

user136984

I went to the former once quite a long time ago, I wonder if I'm on it! :D

Fiksdal

@ParanoidPanda Sure, you'll be heading to the concentration camps with the rest of us soon.

Rinzwind

@ParanoidPanda anyone using linux is a hacker according to the NSA so yes you are

user136984

6:11 PM

Well, they're going to have a very boarding time reading my emails! :D

Terrance

I bet I am on it.

Nathan Osman

o/

user136984

So this is the site?

user136984

wikileaks.org

user136984

It's strange, you know I never actually managed to find any documents on it.

Severus Tux

6:16 PM

hi all :D

Terrance

Hi @SeverusTux

Severus Tux

Hello :)

Could anyone please help me get audio ? unix.stackexchange.com/questions/312765/…

user136984

Oh right, they've made it much easier to find things on their website now...

user136984

However after hearing that some wikileaks documents still contained malware in them I don't think I'll be looking on this machine.

Rinzwind

6:31 PM

r/SpaceX Official Mars Architecture Announcement/IAC 2016 Live Thread - Updates & Discussion
https://www.reddit.com/live/xnrdv28vxfi2
starts in 1 minute

live stream youtube.com/watch?v=A1YxNYiyALg&feature=youtu.be

Nathan Osman

Live stream starting 6 minutes ago...

Er, except not.

Android Dev

@Zanna - You beat me by literally 250ms askubuntu.com/questions/830458/…

jokerdino

← 1 message moved from Ubuntu Regulators

Android Dev

@NathanOsman Maybe someone tripped over an ethernet cable

Zanna

@AndroidDev takes a bow I know, I'm so great...

6

Android Dev

6:42 PM

@Zanna Wait, OP replied: askubuntu.com/questions/830458/…

Zanna

well edit it if you think it can be salvaged and it will get reopened

Android Dev

@Zanna - That question was put on hold 8 seconds after he replied :P

Rinzwind

@NathanOsman spacex.com/mars

and the YT works :=)

Android Dev

Mint question for closure: askubuntu.com/questions/830108/noise-cancellation

Serg

@Zanna without any jokes, you're awesome.

Zanna

6:49 PM

haha what?!

jokerdino

Upvotes coming Serg's way..

Zanna

whatever, I'm just gonna say thanks <333

jokerdino

@Zanna I think you are awesome. NoJoke.

Byte Commander

@AndroidDev not specific to Mint, removed that tag.

Android Dev

@ByteCommander K

Zanna

6:51 PM

guys I am already crying here

jokerdino

oh oops. Sorry.

Zanna

it's ok <333

jokerdino

ss baby is ok. no cri no more

Rinzwind

ZANNA YOU ARE AWESOME

7

now she fell out of her bed

Android Dev

@ByteCommander - But what about this one? askubuntu.com/questions/823863/…

@Rinzwind lol

edwinksl

6:53 PM

@jokerdino i wonder who here got that ssh bby is ok meme :P

jokerdino

The lesser the better.

Android Dev

@Zanna - Just saw from your bio that you love salted caramel ice cream. That stuff is amazing.

Zanna

hahaha

Byte Commander

@AndroidDev agreed. Fonts and UI stuff as well as packages are more specific to Mint. And it seems abandoned for two weeks or so now anyway.

Zanna

@AndroidDev but booja booja just started making one that's like caramel with salted hazelnut butter in it or something. that is on a whole new level...

Android Dev

6:56 PM

@Zanna I'm guessing that's a British brand? Never heard of it.

Zanna

@AndroidDev vegan brand :)

edwinksl

@NathanOsman finally started

Nathan Osman

@Seth guess what was just tested...

...and works!

Terrance

^Nice!

jokerdino

@NathanOsman You are awesome.

@edwinksl I was there reading that thread before it became a meme.

Nathan Osman

7:01 PM

Still some loose ends to tie up but it's getting there.

Terrance

Speaking of salted caramel ice cream, lunch is coming up and that sounds really good right now. :D

edwinksl

@jokerdino you are a redditor???

jokerdino

what kind of a question is that?

I feel hurt.

Nathan Osman

@Seth when you have a moment, I'll need you to privately send me the consumer key / consumer secret / access token / access secret for the Twitter account so the app can post on its behalf.

Kaz Wolfe

@jokerdino Do you want a bandaid?

Zanna

7:15 PM

@Rinzwind <3

ah @Anwar I like what you did here :) askubuntu.com/questions/830253/how-do-i-pronounce-mate

Serg

This is going to be a complete app. I've added desktop file and bunch of options, so it will be awesome

Seth

@NathanOsman Okay, I can do that. I assume you won't make the mistake of committing it to github ;)

Zanna

@Seth lol

Nathan Osman

Nope, already got a .gitignore on the file in case of accidents :D

Seth

@NathanOsman awesome! tho do we want to include links? Might be funnier if there is no context..

@NathanOsman Smart man :p

Nathan Osman

7:27 PM

Actually, how it works is that config.json.default is in the repository and is an inactive template of how the file should look. So when you set it up, you simply copy it to config.json, which is in .gitignore.

Seth

@NathanOsman Seems like I can only generate a temporary password that will expire in an hour..?

Nathan Osman

I think you're on the wrong page.

Seth

Probably.

Are you using the API?

Nathan Osman

You'll need to start here while signed in: apps.twitter.com/app/new

@Seth Yes.

For "Website" you can just use the GitHub page and "Callback" can be blank.

Seth

@NathanOsman Okay.

Nathan Osman

7:32 PM

Once you fill that in, go to the "Keys and Access Tokens" tab and that should have the consumer stuff.

Seth

@NathanOsman What do you think we should put in the name section? Since that is used to attribute tweets people are going to see it.

Just "Ask Ubuntu Chat"? Something more catchy?

Nathan Osman

"Ask Ubuntu Chat Twitter Bot" <--- what I used for testing

Seth

I'm not sure we can change it after creating.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman why are you even creating a default config? just generate it on the fly :D

Seth

but ok, we'll go with that.

Nathan Osman

7:34 PM

@KazWolfe You change it through the web interface (the settings) but... how would it know what port to listen for HTTP requests on? :D

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman github.com/KazWolfe/WolfBot-SE/blob/master/WolfPrefs.py#L58

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe This app is acting as a server not a client.

Seth

@NathanOsman gtalk

Nathan Osman

K.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman It can still generate a config on-the-fly, which it can then use until a real config is set

Nathan Osman

7:37 PM

@KazWolfe The app won't start without valid Twitter credentials anyway.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman also i have some more questions for you

if you feel like dealing with them, the testing room awaits!

Nathan Osman

I can't right now, sorry.

I've got to have lunch and do some stuff.

Maybe later.

Kaz Wolfe

no worries, i'm in no rush and don't want to play with regex unsupervised

Seth

Hacktoberfest is happening again!

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth lol just signed up :D

user136984

7:42 PM

Does LiveJournal seriously only use HTTP including for the login page???

user136984

And no TLS for password reset emails or anything?

user136984

I thought this was meant to be a major blogging site?

Android Dev

@ParanoidPanda O_O

Byte Commander

@Seth What is that? I open 4 pull requests to any arbitrary github project in October and get a free t-shirt? o.O

Seth

yep

Byte Commander

7:45 PM

Oh.

Interesting...

Let's see how much data they want to sign up.

user136984

Is there any way of contacting LiveJournal?

Byte Commander

Ah, only GitHub account so far. Okay, I'm in.

Maybe I'll make some changes to Smokey or ChatExchange...

Windows 3.1

3

@NathanOsman

Byte Commander

:)

@KazWolfe need regex help? I can provide some guidance with that too.

Kaz Wolfe

@ByteCommander it's weird stuff, i think.

Mostly speed checking, and anti-regexing.

let me get hacktoberfest shirt, and i'll move over.

Byte Commander

7:51 PM

what is anti-regexing?

Android Dev

1

Q: Open Hardware Monitor doesn't show all sensors

I downloaded Open Hardware Monitor and installed mono (to run Open Hardware Monitor) and I installed lm-sensors too. If I run Open Hardware Monitor it shows only fans and voltage, but It doesn't show current CPU clock (and core temperatures), RAM, iGPU / GPU clock / temperature, Discs temperatu...

temperature clock sensors

Ummm...

Kaz Wolfe

@ByteCommander match this, but don't match this.

Byte Commander

So just negative lookarounds?

I can do that.

Challenge me! :)

Kaz Wolfe

okay, wanna come by the wolf's lair?

Android Dev

See comments:

1

Q: Open Hardware Monitor doesn't show all sensors

I downloaded Open Hardware Monitor and installed mono (to run Open Hardware Monitor) and I installed lm-sensors too. If I run Open Hardware Monitor it shows only fans and voltage, but It doesn't show current CPU clock (and core temperatures), RAM, iGPU / GPU clock / temperature, Discs temperatu...

temperature clock sensors

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