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Nathan Osman

12:00 AM

B-b-but Linus promised not to break stuff... ;P

And break stuff, he did.

Anonymous

how is everyone this evening?

Nathan Osman

Kernel 3.13.0-65 source:

u32 (*get_vblank_counter) (struct drm_device *dev, int crtc);

I suppose I could create a thunk.

But that sounds like murky waters to me.

hbdgaf

@NathanOsman And if they complain, he will explain the technical decision and tell them why they are stupid.

Nathan Osman

@onebree I'm neck deep in kernel source code. But doing alright, I guess :)

hbdgaf

@onebree well enough

user139252

12:05 AM

@onebree Alright, just exhausted. My two year old is being a two-nado today.

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne -_-

Nathan Osman

@hbdgaf a bit of detective work found this: github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/…

There's the change that broke it all.

hbdgaf

So, it was explained.

Anonymous

@NathanOsman you found a bug in linux?

Anonymous

I took a break for a bit, and am back to working on my app.

Nathan Osman

12:10 AM

@onebree No, not a bug. Just a change they made that broke some drivers.

If we're going from int to unsigned int and negative values were never used, a thunk should work.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman It's not a bug, it's just something that doesn't work like it's supposed to

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 The kernel and driver are two different things.

Zacharee1

i iz kiding

hbdgaf

Yeah, definitely not a bug. When I said bug waiting to happen, I meant someone that used a negative value to mean something special in their particular driver, and then they just smoosh it into an unsigned and you get a sign flip and huge int value.

Zacharee1

why would someone do that?

hbdgaf

12:18 AM

"It won't compile. Well, one of them needs to be filpped. Let's just change the type in the driver and hope for the best." -- patches. Seems to work. Years down the line - kaboom

Zacharee1

yeth

Anonymous

Allergies all day today. I need to buy medicine tomorrow

hbdgaf

@NathanOsman Oh gosh. That means we're going to get a new flood of vmware kernel module questions possibly.

Nathan Osman

@hbdgaf Possibly. But I am making progress patching the source code.

Zacharee1

This is still the AMD thing right?

Nathan Osman

12:22 AM

Yes.

Zacharee1

I'm way out of it today

blurgh

hbdgaf

@NathanOsman may have a PR against the AMD driver. huzzah huzzah the peasants rejoice

:p

@hbdgaf No idea where to submit that patch :P

hbdgaf

I'ld just send them a mail and see if they like your change. Then setup a repo on github that holds their code and take the commit with a reference in the commit message about the email convo.

Lucio

12:26 AM

@Zacharee1 that is a great idea for my next travel where i need to get some new tech candies

Zacharee1

:p

hbdgaf

@Zacharee1 Why did I hear Boxxy - Love and Trolls

Zacharee1

wat

hbdgaf

I think in music sometimes. When I watch or see things, songs just spin up in my head.

Zacharee1

huh

hbdgaf

12:29 AM

nevermind.

Zacharee1

That wasn't a question

Lucio

@onebree I found out traveling solve my allergic issues

then after coming home again i need to buy my regular tissue packages

hbdgaf

Yeah, I didn't have allergies in Chicago. I have allergies in NC. Different climates different fauna. Mine aren't bad though. I just get a smoker's cough (even when I didn't smoke at 16) where ragweed grows.

Anonymous

12:53 AM

@Lucio I have a dog and am allergic to dogs.

Anonymous

I am low on allegra d and am stretching it out until I can get to the store, taking benadryl instead

Aaron Hall

Cross building? wiki.ubuntu.com/CrossBuilding

Anonymous

do your allergies make you hungry? Mine do.. I need cookies

Lucio

nop but is dinner time here

Anonymous

it's 9 pm here. I am starving, even though I ate chips/dip two hours ago

Lucio

12:57 AM

yeah, me too (replace chips and dip with a cake)

Anonymous

the chips and dip were just a snack. These girlscout cookies are FOR my allergies

Lucio

@hbdgaf that is a weird symptom. It could turn bad if you are along too many people

like watching a suspense movie :P

Anonymous

Today was funny -- my dad cut the grass, but couldn't shower immediately because installers came, and he watched them. I had to leave to my room because my allergies. In ten minutes, I open my door (other side of the house) and the grass smell races in

Lucio

@onebree that is awful :(

Anonymous

i love my dog though. I sacrificed a clear nose to have her :-)

Lucio

1:03 AM

@onebree ouch. I have never cut the grass of the house. Oh right, for that

fair enough

is it little as @JourneymanGeek ?

Hi dude btw! :D

Seth

@Lucio but mowing is fun :(

Nathan Osman

I've almost got my patched copy of the DKMS module building.

Lucio

@Seth Hello pal!!! I know it is, even more if you have one of this

Seth

@Lucio yes!!

also hi! Long time no see :)

Lucio

are you still playing chess?

Seth

1:09 AM

not as much as I used to :(

I should do it more again..

I got busy, and then kinda forgot about it.

Lucio

how is school?

Seth

doing good!

Anonymous

you are going to school, @Seth? For what?

Seth

Glad the summer is here soon though.

Lucio

:O that sounds cool

Seth

1:10 AM

@onebree learning ;)

@Lucio less studying, more sailing :D

Lucio

what about ultimate?

Anonymous

@Seth I had to get close to my screen to see it's a wink... Dem allergies.

Lucio

I remember you were going to become a champion on that

Anonymous

ultimate fighting?

Lucio

no, the soft one

your dog may play it

Anonymous

1:13 AM

oh, okay. That's cool

Lucio

now that would be fun after grass allergies :)

DINNER!

please tell me about your future sailings later @Seth

I hope you get better @onebree

Nathan Osman

WOO! AMD GPU Pro has been built on 16.04.

Now to reboot and test it...

Lucio

and happy hack with that Nathan :)

Nathan Osman

(Do not fear, I have LVM snapshots if things go south :D)

chaskes

Ok, so I just discovered pushd and popd

Nathan Osman

1:15 AM

Handy, aren't they?

Especially in scripts.

Lucio

@chaskes it is always a good time for discovers

chaskes

Can't believe I was living without them. I use the graphical equiv all the time

Nathan Osman

With indentation you can do:

pushd something/
    touch somefile1
    touch somefile2
popd

Lucio

see you all! bye

Nathan Osman

@Lucio do come again.

chaskes

1:16 AM

@Lucio One thing I like about Linux folk is they (usually) don't pretend to know things they don't because they want to actually learn

@NathanOsman that is useful. thx

Nathan Osman

No problem.

Seth

@Lucio still haven't played. I picked sailing over that. I still enjoy frisbees but I don't have time now to really play ultimate itself.

@Lucio I will! :)

Nathan Osman

Restarting...

user139252

@NathanOsman Best of luck.

Anonymous

@Lucio I will in the morning

Anonymous

1:29 AM

night all! o/

user139252

Okay, how did that happen? I blocked off the isthmus, they still came around to attack

Aaron Hall

Is cross building a thing?

user139252

What do you mean?

chaskes

@AaronHall Sure.

user139252

Building something for more than one platform?

Seth

1:38 AM

@TheBrownOne ships?

or did you leave a small space for them to get through?

Aaron Hall

@TheBrownOne wiki.ubuntu.com/CrossBuilding

chaskes

^^ what about it?

Aaron Hall

what's the point? is it a big deal for Ubuntu now (that article is kinda old)? What would it take to set up a modern build system like that?

Seth

It's possbile.. popey was just trying to do it a few weeks ago.

chaskes

I'd say it's still a big deal, but I can't help with setting it up.

Seth

1:46 AM

I don't remember what issue he was having though

Nathan Osman

Didn't work.

I rolled back the LVM snapshots and Unity doesn't work.

How is that possible?

Everything is exactly as it was before the test.

Seth

something escaped your snapshot?

user139252

@Seth I didn't think about ships

Nathan Osman

Hmm... I snapshotted /, /var, and /boot. I bet something in /home is messed up.

Using a browser and terminal without a window manager is... not fun.

chaskes

^^ did you see the question a few days ago from the person who wanted to set up exactly that? :)

Seth

1:51 AM

@TheBrownOne it usually takes the AI a while to get to that point though. At least, in my experience. It prefers land.

@NathanOsman that's what ruined my last unity session. something in ~.

Nathan Osman

rm -rf ~/.config/dconf

^--- did the trick

SQuirel

Hi

Nathan Osman

@SQuirel hello.

SQuirel

Anyone know of anything like rackspace that's free?

user139252

@SQuirel What do you need?

user139252

2:00 AM

Just a website, some computing power?

SQuirel

something free that I can ssh into

that has mysql java and apache

user139252

Make a username and password here

SQuirel

ok

user139252

I'll elevate your user a bit, give you some access to PHPMyAdmin and you can just let me know how many Apache virtual hosts you need.

SQuirel

I don't understand

what is it?

Nathan Osman

2:04 AM

What is what?

SQuirel

stem.browntech.space?

user139252

It's my server

user139252

If you make an account, you can SSH in

SQuirel

Your server?

user139252

Usually I lock people down, but if you need a place to do something, I'll let you.

user139252

2:05 AM

One of them :P

SQuirel

I was trying to host a jtrek server

It's an old telnet game...

github.com/rumour/jtrek

user139252

Alright, just let me know what you need

SQuirel

port 1701 mysql and java

maybe apache but it's not really necessary

user139252

Alright

SQuirel

Wow, Thanks :)

user139252

2:06 AM

Java and MySQL are already installed, let me just open up the port

SQuirel

What's it hosted by?

rackspace?

user139252

It's hosted by me

SQuirel

Like a computer on your home network?

user139252

Port is open

SQuirel

ok

user139252

2:08 AM

You can SSH in now

SQuirel

what domain-name/ip do I ssh into?

user139252

you sssh into stem.browntech.space

SQuirel

ok

I'm in

Thanks :)

aww snap I gtg

I'll be back on in a few

user139252

Alright, I'll make a text file in your home dir with information needed for MySql

SQuirel

@TheBrownOne back

user139252

2:20 AM

Alright, the MySQL log-in information is in a file only you can read in your home dir

SQuirel

@TheBrownOne Thanks, The server means the world to me :)

user139252

Eh, I've got space and you're not doing something worth me getting paid for :P

user139252

I'm so sorry you have Cox internet, BTW :P

SQuirel

:)

I'm kinda stuck with it cox

user139252

Installing htop for you :P

user139252

2:30 AM

Anything else you need, I'll be emailed about it.

SQuirel

ok :)

I can't live without htop :)

gtg :(

TheXed

I just installed Budgie desktop...

SQuirel

back

chaskes

how is it?

TheXed

@chaskes still getting use to it, but so far I like it.

chaskes

2:43 AM

I looked at the site after you mentioned it and it looks pretty good.

TheXed

its snappy...

I can't even get Unity 8 to load...

SQuirel

I've never heard of budgie before

chaskes

yeah, I don't see a lot of point of trying to use 8 before it's ready.

TheXed

Me neither until today @SQuirel I randomly came across it...

@SQuirel don't even remember how...

Oh ywa I do, I came across an article about Budgie Ubuntu Remix.

SQuirel

I thought they were all listed here askubuntu.com/questions/65083/…

TheXed

2:52 AM

@SQuirel Budgie is there...

@SQuirel but I have never seen that thread before...

SQuirel

the answer was only added on the 3rd

@SQuirel oh...

gtg

@SQuirel cya

@TheXed fossfreedom is working on that

TheXed

2:57 AM

@Seth working on making sure I see ever pertinent thread?

Seth

@TheXed no, working on budgie remix

TheXed

@Seth ahh...cool

@Seth I almost downloaded it, but I was like nah that is silly when I can just install the DE

I like the customization options, and the ease of making the changes...

Seth

4:05 AM

Stop with the signs and just let nature do her thing. https://t.co/uSSDpB3U7C

Tweeted by AwardsDarwin on May 1, 2016 at 4:01 AM

what the?!

Windowsinsider BoomTech

4:40 AM

LOL @Seth

@ParanoidPanda Well im not a "baby" as you said, so just don't offend people.

@ParanoidPanda What if you changed your name to (ParanoidBaby) and changed your profile picture to a diaper, would you be happy?!?

sigh people these days

I have no idea ^

kashish

5:38 AM

Hye! I'm on ubuntu gnome 16.04. Can someone please help me to customize plymouth theme. The problem is that there is no /lib/plymouth directory.

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Videonauth

6:54 AM

Good morning all

Fabby

8:21 AM

Gute Morgen! ;-)

Nathan Osman

Goodnight all.

Tomorrow is install-16.04-on-my-pi day.

Finally got my APT proxy working.

Just need to get it honoring If-Modified-Since headers.

Videonauth

8:40 AM

Anyone here still running on a 14.04.4 LTS ?

Ask Ubuntu Meta

9:43 AM

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Read the post below with a wink. It is not meant as a bitter numeration, just a parody on what we all run into every now and then. Look at it as an Ask Ubuntu conversion of "How to irritate people" NEVER give all relevant information at once. Especially don't mention if your issue seems to be r...

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Videonauth

9:54 AM

@AskUbuntuMeta @JacobVlijm +1 great post i love it

Jacob Vlijm

@Videonauth Thanks, I couldn't resist :)

Videonauth

phew now i have to find out how to unpack a .deb change a line in the dependenciy file and pack it again signed

or make the install ignore that dependency

jokerdino

> Congratulations for the awesome profile on GitHub. We found your profile to be in the top 5%.

Yeah, I am not buying that bullshit.

@Videonauth grab the source, make your change and package it?

Videonauth

not that easy it seems it is related on that gedit answer im on still

Jacob Vlijm

@jokerdino You don't believe it?

jokerdino

9:59 AM

Yeah, there is nothing in my profile lol.

Jacob Vlijm

@jokerdino Haha, that's hilareous!

Videonauth

building froom source makes you run into all kinds of problems, i actually try to install the wily version of gedit including all plugins etc on xenial

but gedit plugins depends on python >= 3.4 but <<3.5

xenial comes with python 3.5

jokerdino

all the best Video.

Videonauth

# removing the traces of your gedit tries
cd ~/your build dir of gedit-plugins/
sudo make uninstall
cd ~/your build dir of gedit/
sudo make uninstall

# this uninstalls the 3.18.3 version of gedit, gedit-dev, gedit-plugins and gedit-common
sudo apt-get remove gedit gedit-dev gedit-plugins gedit-common

# downloading the proper dependencies package for gedit 3.10.4 and installing it
wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gedit/gedit-common_3.10.4-0ubuntu13_all.deb
sudo dpkg -i gedit-common_3.10.4-0ubuntu13_all.deb

this far i got already

and it works

jokerdino

beat the guy who wanted it

Videonauth

10:08 AM

lol

well hes trying to use rgedit and this doesnt want to run on gedit 3.18

the python script of that plugin fails

i guess this was as well the reason why they dropped this package in xenial

Videonauth

10:24 AM

@JacobVlijm do you know sed usage well ?

Jacob Vlijm

11:08 AM

@Videonauth I only know what is the general idea of sed :) mostly a python guy although I feel I should do more other languages...

Videonauth

well i found a solution for my answer but i would love to give the guy rather a sed command to run the changes to be done in the files as to describe the changes

Madara Uchiha

Hey guys, I need halp

I'm in the middle of a distro upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04

Zacharee1

what's wrong?

Madara Uchiha

I pressed alt+tab and it caused the sidebar, dash, and basically everything related to gnome to disappear

Zacharee1

uh

Is the upgrade still going?

Madara Uchiha

11:18 AM

Now I can't switch between applications, because even the window borders are gone and I can't minimize our move things around

Theoretically, yes, but I can't check to see

Zacharee1

Well you aren't supposed to use the computer while it's in the middle of an upgrade

Guess this is why :p

It sounds like gnome-shell just crashed

Maybe because it's being upgraded

Madara Uchiha

Can I restart it without a reboot?

Zacharee1

You can try

But I wouldn't risk it

Madara Uchiha

Yeah, the upgrade continued

It's now promoting me for a restart

Zacharee1

OK

Do you have anything you need to save, or can you just reboot?

Madara Uchiha

11:20 AM

Although, I'd still want to try and save my work before restarting

I'll reboot if it's risky though

Zacharee1

Now there should be less risk

Try this

Get into a TTY, log in and run sudo service gnome-shell start

Then go back to F7

ctrl+alt+F1 for the TTY

ctrl+alt+F7 for the GUI

Madara Uchiha

Failed, service not found

Zacharee1

maybe it isn't one. Hang on

Ah. It's just gnome-shell

standalone command

Madara Uchiha

Currently not installed

Zacharee1

uh oh

sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-*

sudo apt-get install -f

This is GNOME and not Unity, right?

not MATE or XFCE or LXDE?

Madara Uchiha

11:24 AM

The default that comes with Ubuntu

I haven't changed it

Zacharee1

Oh that's Unity

That would explain it

sudo service ubuntu-desktop start

Madara Uchiha

I've rebooted, still no sidebar or dash

Service not found

Zacharee1

OK. Get back into the TTY or a terminal and run sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-*

then sudo apt-get install -f

Madara Uchiha

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 unity-scope-home : Conflicts: unity-scope-deviantart
                    Conflicts: unity-scope-gallica
                    Conflicts: unity-scope-github
                    Conflicts: unity-scope-googlenews
                    Conflicts: unity-scope-openweathermap
                    Conflicts: unity-scope-soundcloud
                    Conflicts: unity-scope-yahoostock
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Zacharee1

OK, do the second command

Madara Uchiha

11:27 AM

0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

Zacharee1

sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop maybe?

Madara Uchiha

@Zacharee1 It installed it

But still service not found when I try to enable

Reboot, perhaps?

Zacharee1

So it did something? Good

Yes reboot

Madara Uchiha

Let's see, brb

Videonauth

Anyone who can have a look at my answer here?

1

A: Install `gedit-plugin` for a downgraded version of gedit

The following command you should have done already as you folowwed the tutorial how to downgrade to lower version of gedit (if not do it aswell): sudo apt-get build-dep gedit Then run the following: sudo apt-get build-dep gedit-plugins sudo apt-get install libvte* python-vte libgconf* Then ...

Zacharee1

11:30 AM

@Videonauth why the ~~strikethrough~~?

Madara Uchiha

@Zacharee1 Still no

Zacharee1

hmm

Madara Uchiha

> $ sudo service ubuntu-desktop start
Failed to start ubuntu-desktop.service: Unit ubuntu-desktop.service not found.

Zacharee1

Yeah, I don't think it's a service

Just my default go-to command :p

Here: askubuntu.com/questions/17381/…

Videonauth

@Zacharee1 well removed it now i keep forgeting that the site anyways keeps track of the post revisions

Zacharee1

11:32 AM

:p

Madara Uchiha

@Zacharee1 Huzzah!

That did it

Zacharee1

:D yay

Madara Uchiha

Thanks, you saved my behind :)

That was ALMOST as scary as the first time my CAPS LOCK light started blinking (first kernel panic encountered)

Zacharee1

lol

You got lucky here

Sometimes everything you do breaks it even more

Videonauth

phew that was alot of fiddling for that answer, im on that since around 20 hours now and did dont know how many broken xenial installs in a vm :P

Madara Uchiha

11:46 AM

@Zacharee1 Looks like it's not all solved

I can't seem to move windows around

Zacharee1

yay \-_-/

let's see

And here we are: askubuntu.com/questions/476980/i-cant-move-any-windows-in-unity

Madara Uchiha

@Zacharee1 Got it, yeah

Looks like my entire Unity profile in compiz was screwed

I'm guessing I'll find more fun surprises as I go along

Zacharee1

yes, fun :p

Videonauth

hehehe

Zacharee1

@Videonauth oh no, the crazy Deutscher!! :p

Videonauth

11:50 AM

i feel kinda exhausted right now, i dont know how many tries i did to solve that question, hardes earned 50 bounty evar

Zacharee1

Well, you're certainly working hard

possibly harder than most of here :p

I mean, look at that rep graph

Videonauth

well i started installing a VM with xenial

:p

and i did low last days

Zacharee1

?

Videonauth

yeah only 40-90 rep the past to days per day

Zacharee1

oh noes

That's still a good steady climb

Videonauth

11:53 AM

but for that i solved that problem

Zacharee1

Videonauth

yeah im a retiree so i have plenty time

Zacharee1

Look at @TheBrownOne's graph

@Videonauth lucky

Videonauth

ah i would rather love to go to work again to be honest

being retired due to health issues isnt fun

Zacharee1

health?

Videonauth

11:55 AM

yep

dont want to go iinto detail here

Zacharee1

That's fine

Videonauth

i wonder if i shall put this answer aswell in a seperate questioni how how to downgrade gedit on xenial

Zacharee1

You could if it's relevant

Videonauth

well it did a major version step from 3.10.4 to 3.18.3

Zacharee1

whoa

Videonauth

11:59 AM

and some of the older plugins dont work anymore or being dropped

rebuilding from source is a dead end aswell

Zacharee1

o_O

Snaps?

Videonauth

no clue but suely none made yet

i found out that alone the gedit-r-plugin is highly customized to run with even 15.10 so building all that from scratch will lead you into building nearly the whole toolchain

the edit i made on my answer there on the plugin package was the easiest way to get it working

Zacharee1

12:28 PM

It annoys me when people put more detail in the title than in the actual body: askubuntu.com/questions/765871/…

Videonauth

:D

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Q: Eight tips to handle your question in the worst possible way

Read the post below with a wink. It is not meant as a bitter numeration, just a parody on what we all run into every now and then. Look at it as an Ask Ubuntu conversion of "How to irritate people" NEVER give all relevant information at once. Especially don't mention if your issue seems to be r...

discussion

should maybe added to this then :D

Zacharee1

12:44 PM

I saw that ;p

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