yes 41 rep, but how to "vote up", I usually am not this dense...

you click the up arrow above the number

@GeorgeEdison there will be a tech preview

Sweet.

ok so am I the only one getting the relation error with thinkup/mysql?

@JorgeCastro What are you typing?

juju add-relation thinkup mysql

try juju add-relation thinkup:db mysql:db

+1 @OctavianDamiean, though only juju add-relation thinkup mysql:db is needed

!!

that did it

ugh, that's confusing

but it's working!

Yeah

I think I may lodge that as a bug

@JorgeCastro Which one?

the one octavian said to do

@MarcoCeppi You should. :)

but now I get an error with the mysql one

investigating

@AmithKK your email got hijacked too

@GeorgeEdison pastebin.ubuntu.com/747336

I got alot farther this time!

@JorgeCastro Weird, it's saying the table already exists, as if the db-relation changed was triggered twice

Can you expose/try to visit the thinkup app?

@StefanoPalazzo At which step are you right now?

@MarcoCeppi WORKS!

@JorgeCastro yeah, if you look db-relation-changed got executed twice

2011-11-23 18:03:37,209: hook.output@DEBUG: hook db-relation-changed exited, exit code 0.
2011-11-23 18:03:37,249: hook.executor@DEBUG: Hook complete: /var/lib/juju/units/thinkup-0/charm/hooks/db-relation-changed
2011-11-23 18:03:37,249: hook.scheduler@DEBUG: executing hook for mysql/0:modified
2011-11-23 18:03:37,250: unit.relation.lifecycle@DEBUG: Executing hook db-relation-changed
2011-11-23 18:03:37,250: hook.executor@DEBUG: Running hook: /var/lib/juju/units/thinkup-0/charm/hooks/db-relation-changed

Not really sure why.

It didn't do that for me though

Maybe it's because you got the ambiguity message, but something went through anyways?

It's a half day! Heading home

or I did the relation twice?

ok

waiting on the mail from it now

@GeorgeEdison the postfix log shows it sent

so that looks good to go!

@JorgeCastro Did you deploy it locally?

yeah

And you could just load it up in your browser?

Guys, another SSH problem! (sorry) ... I still have the two identical boxes - after changing the IP, SSH failed... I tried /etc/init.d/ssh stop then start, which didn't do a thing... I restarted the box and it fixed it. However, I am not just trying to get it to work, I am trying to learn Linux! So, for the other box, I would really like to fix it without turning it off and on again! Anyone know what I need to do?

@OctavianDamiean yep, just waiting on the account email

JUJU - Y U NO LIEK MEH?!

I wish upgrading a production server wasn't as hairy as it inevitably is.

On the plus side, it just downloaded 192MB of packages in like three seconds.

heh

And it's a shame I have to do it four times. I've neglected this 9.10 install long enough.

I guess if I leave it on 10.04 and wait another five months, I could LTS-hop...

@WilliamHilsum why use IPs? No DNS?

Nah, where's the fun in that. do-release-upgrade has a busy night ahead of it.

@JorgeCastro There may be DNS in the end, but, this is just a test server and I don't feel it is worth the trouble of setting something up whilst I am making so many changes... all it would mean is that if I need to change the IP in the future, I would have to also update a DNS record....

/me nods

I /think/ what you can do in this case

is ssh in

change the ip but keep the ssh session open

and then try to ssh in with the new ip

if that doesn't work then just restart ssh from within the session you kept open

Uhm, why don't you just use avahi for the hostname.local feature?

@WilliamHilsum Or is that a remote server?

@JorgeCastro the moment I changed the IP, the session dropped - I can only connect in via esxi console

@OctavianDamiean If talking to me, I am not sure/never heard of that - but, this is a test server directly linked to a router that has uplink to the internet (in a DC) no DNS or any other machines on the network.. I am currently connecting in via ESX's console, but, I would rather use putty/ssh, but, that is giving me the issues! I know if I restart, it will work (as it did with the other machine) but, I am keen to get it working without restarting/learning how to fix it.

@MarcoCeppi: ok I set up ssh want to discuss webserver before setting it up, r u bit free?

Sorry, if talking to me about the avahi thing - no idea!.... the rest is about the other question about the server!

Never mind avahi wouldn't help you in that case.

hello. I have an .iso file that I'd like to create in a usb driver. I trying to use the startup disk creator, but when I select the file it doesnt show in the source screen. I've also tryied UNetbootin, but looks like it writes the ubuntu partition, not the iso file I choosed.

any idea please?

hmm maybe a screenshot will help?

UNetbootin writes whatever ISO you select to the drive you select.

Octavian it wrote debian in my usb driver. I didnt choosed it. I've tested making the boot via usb and a debian screen showed up.

there are this files in the usb driver: ldlinux.sys, syslinux.cfg, ubnfilel.txt, ... this files has nothing to do with the .iso file I choosed

hmm is debian bootable disk on ur computer? or was it there already on USB ?

@OctavianDamiean the mysql server is up, mediawiki is still pending

my usb driver was empty

ok then is it on ur computer?

Are you sure you select the correct ISO?

no. the other computer runs Windows

@StefanoPalazzo I switched my juju development environment to my local desktop.

yeah. when you open Unetbootin it shows three options, Distribution, Diskimage and Custom. I choosed Diskimage and choosed my file. but it record some linux stufff

hmm this is confusing -- can u show us a screenshot while u choose the ISO?

wait

@rogcg Well Ubuntu is Linux. :D

@OctavianDamiean no matter, i'm not in a hurry. just bought some pizza and put in a simpsons dvd, juju can take as long as it wants ;)

But im not recording ubuntu on my usb driver. im writing other .iso. has nothing to do with ubuntu

hmm is it bootable?

if ur iso is not bootable then it won't/shouldn't show in startup USB disk creator

Upgrade #2. 186MB in 6 seconds. Amazing.

@StefanoPalazzo I didn't switch because of that I switched because you'll have a bit of a problem once the service is deployed. If you bridged your VM interface then you'll not reach that service from your desktop.

@wisem gonna post it on twitpic

@rogcg What is on that ISO?

Just hit the upload button here in chat.

oh ok

hey yes, I just noticed the mysql server's IP

@wisemonkey Yeah

Octavian, it's a program to recover files on windows that had blue screen disease. Im fixing this computer to my friend.

so what is kav rescue

@rogcg Alright, what is on that ISO? Is that a bootable OS?

I see.

You can boot on it and access the folders.

Well then it'll work.

Just let it do its job and try to boot off that USB drive once it is done.

yey @MarcoCeppi is here: so I've structure like websitedomain/usr

i.e. only one domain having few users

yeah, let me try now. I selected that file, choosed Diskimage, and let me see if it will write correctly

@rogcg It will write whatever it needs to. Don't worry about what you think it should write.

so rather than having different html sources in usr home I've chowned folders /var/www/usr to particular user

and why it shows some debin stuff when i boot it?

Just try to boot off it once it is done and select the right option in the boot menu.

maybe kav rescue is debian based?

Doesn't matter as long as the boot option is there.

LOL

IDK why startup disk creator didnt recognize the file

@MarcoCeppi: so is that good or should I have /home/user/[html source] ?

so rather than having different html sources in usr home I've chowned folders /var/www/usr to particular user

@wisemonkey It's entirely up to you, that setup will work fine

ok nice

and I can keep logs in my home right if I edit site-available that is

AGHHH it keeps a count down saying: Automatic boot in x secs.. and when it reaches 0 it starts again in 10.

it will never end

right?

@wisemonkey Correct

@MarcoCeppi you beat me to it.

By a minute. (on U&L)

ok need to fix logs now will do that :)

@Oli :) I'm working off of 3G too :P

@rogcg What are the options in that boot menu?

@MarcoCeppi Show off.

wait. here is the screen

don't tell me u r trying to printscreen it?

@Octavian maybe you can change the IP address of the virbr0 interface

worth a try

@wisemonkey no.. i took a picture. LOL

hehe

:P

ok so its kaspersky rescue disk?

there it is. if I press tab it shows a terminal line so I can type some command, like this: /ubnkern initrd=/ubninit _

@wisemonkey yes

Unlike a few of its compatriots, it does not contain a full blown version of the Linux Operating System, but only the part, which allows you to run the Antivirus Rescue CD.

so yes its linux -- and hence can be debian

LOL

what am i supposed to do?

so wat u had before should not be necessarily wrong

if I use the ubuntu live cd can i access the files in the HD??

yes

hmm

lemme try

given that ur HDD is connected :P

@StefanoPalazzo I wouldn't try that. I had a chat on #juju about that.

@GeorgeEdison review in the bug report!

so that means I have to set up NAT, I guess

Uhm, that should work.

I just realized that there is no benefit in running it inside a VM.

I'm being a bit stubborn about using the VM, but I don't really want to try this on my (only) machine

though, It's still pending - I might change my mind in a minute ;)

Goddammit! I forgot to save my SSH key when I upgraded to Oneiric!

do you know what vethYWCNDK is?

At least I remembered to save my gpg key.

No.

stefano@usv-node-f8903f5c:~$ sudo ifup br0
device virbr0 is a bridge device itself; can't enslave a bridge device to a bridge device.

it was worth a shot (:

I'm fetching the charms right now and then I'll try to deploy a service on my local machine.

let me know how that goes

Right, it is pending now.

Fetched 227 MB in 6s (25.9 MB/s) Love it.

I need to make a bootable usb (BSD) - I have the image, how do I write it to the drive and make it bootable on linux (in windows I just used a pre-fabd tool)

hmm if image is bootable then startup usb creator

lol, I was just looking at UNetbootin

if there's a boot image (called isolinux.bin on ubuntu), you can do this:

sudo mkisofs -r -V "sn" -cache-inodes -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o CustomMini.iso /home/stefano/myiso/ubuntuiso/

wehey, that's a bit long

@wisemonkey thats what i was looking for :P thanks.

u r welcome :)

@StefanoPalazzo I have ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/8.2 FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img

I see

I love how @StefanoPalazzo always uses you just do for insanely long command line commands. :D

haha

:D

I got it the wrong way 'round as well. this command does something like the opposite of what rlemon asked for ;)

(creates a bootable image from plain files)

I can see @StefanoPalazzo: sitting infront of 3 HUGE monitors being driven by Eyefinity by AMD and even this chat is being controlled by terminal :P

he have not installed GUI but surely have bleeding edge drivers for radeon :P

OMG I want Eyefinity!

I've card supporting it but can't afford monitors yet :(

I haven't got any of those things

monitor? that's the sticky-out bit on my laptop, right?

(:

lol I said I can see :P thats how one of my friend use to work he had everything setup with best hardware but he couldn't stand GUI

Monitor? I don't use monitors.

I have four It's an addiction

Alright. I'll admit I use two. :)

hmm ok so if u have multiple monitors can u have different workspaces on different monitors?

not yet

hmm

listens to Depeche Mode while working on his charm

UNetBootin looks like its the answer

@wisemonkey that program you suggested cept saying "Installation Failed!"

can you even use non-ubuntu images with the usb disk creator?

@StefanoPalazzo see ^^

o.O

well if u r using .img file then yea maybe not supported :P

@StefanoPalazzo: yes as long as its bootable .iso -- I've created few with it (even windows 7 bootable)

USB

well I wrote my flash drive - now to see if it boots!

cool

That's not bad. 9.10 to 11.10 in one hour. Would like to see anybody manage that in Windows.

lol I would be happy if anyone says that he successfully went from one windows version to higher with "Working" system after done :P

@Oli I went from 11.10 to [|b|r|i|c|k|] to 11.10 to [|b|r|i|c|k|] to 11.10 All in an hour and a half! does that count?!?!

@StefanoPalazzo I just deployed an instance of Mediawiki. :)

nice :) I'll try it

The initial bootstrap still takes a bit but that is ok.

yeah

it caches all that

Yea.

after the first time it's fast

and on ec2 it hits the ec2 mirror so it's not so bad.

Gotta run now...

I'll read the review later.

looks like I have to reboot as well

Dude ... this is so impressive. Every time I deploy a service I'm stunned.

should it take this long to load???

Don't know, depends on many things.

exactly

the number of . has doubled since I took that picture

anyone have any experience with UNetBootin (this is my first time using it)

maybe I have done something very wrong and am unaware

thats a good sign rather than having . stay at same place :P

well yea, lol.

the initial bootstrap took about 5 seconds @OctavianDamiean

but I have been stuck in a few endless processing loops

always with the high hopes that if I keep waiting just a bit longer it will finish.

fun ain't it?

@StefanoPalazzo I didn't mean bootstrap but service deployment, sorry. :)

the worst was when I installed Ubuntu over LAN one one machine :-/

I see

ahh, and I only have one monitor and a KVM switch..

so I keep having to go back and fourth between this pc and the test rig

@MarcoCeppi "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName" only changed custom and error log locations

?

thats the real pain in the arse

@wisemonkey You can ignore that.

it should still work @wisemonkey

@wisemonkey mines been saying that since day #1

too late..

o.O

hmm I couldn't see the webpage though lemme see if something is changed

well lunch time will report back in a while

\o/  _(YaY)
{ }
/ \

nvm... I thought it worked.. .just rebooted and started the process over.

Retweet! :)

ok who knows perl?

unfortunately, but I'm not expert

Same here.

What do you need?

code.launchpad.net/~jorge/charm/oneiric/alice-irc/trunk

I get a "Can't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC"

in my install script

I think I am just missing a dependency

github.com/leedo/alice/blob/master/INSTALL.md

those are the upstream instructions

Hmm, are you sure that the last two commands succeeded?

I mean the CPAN module download and installation process.

what happens when you remove "--notest"? (maybe you'll get a more helpful error message)

has anyone use UNetBootin with BSD?

@rlemon if it's an .img, couldn't you just dd it to the device?

or rather to the first bootable partition on the device, something like that

@StefanoPalazzo same error

@StefanoPalazzo I'm trying to install a OS to the device.. how can I expect to discover it with my PC?

it happens when it's trying to install "local-lib-1.008004"

@rlemon I was thinking something like this: dd if=archlinux.iso of=/dev/sd[x]

warning: this will delete everything on sd[x]

ahhh, see this is why I keep comming back here.

And here the G+ post.

plus.google.com/114839638425953508537/posts/M3w568Jrach

via the archlinux wiki, they also have lots of other way to do it listed there: wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Installation_Media

they claim it works, I'm just relaying that :) never tried it myself

I try to stay away from dd ;)

Listening to jono bacon at the moment. I'm getting really mad about his political non-decidedness

he's a great guy obviously. but come on,

have an opinion!

Where are you listening?

ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon

you should follow Ubuntu on g+ :)

I do.

I took the liberty of sharing your post on the Ask ubuntu page by the way

:2517868 so like this:

rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:~$ sudo dd if=/home/rdl/Downloads/FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img of=/dev/sdc

but I'll make another one a few minutes before it starts

@rlemon make 100% sure that sdc is the correct device.

yes. you can remember if and of as "input file" and "output file"

did, unplugged and plugged in my thumb drive and watched it dissapear

btw is there an easier way of determining that.

@StefanoPalazzo Cool. :)

@rlemon you can find the mount point of the device in nautilus and then type "df"

or df | grep /media/whatever

There is an Ubuntini?

/dev/sdc1             15836016         8  15836008   1% /media/Transcend

lol

so then sdc is my Transcend FlashDrive

:P

looks good

df -h is one of the commands you'll like if you spend a lot of time on the command line

(h = human readable units)

as is "free -m", for ram

oh hey stefano/marco

man, I need to start compiling my cheat sheet

  mediawiki:
    charm: local:oneiric/mediawiki-81
    relations:
      db: mysql
    units:
      mediawiki/0:
        machine: 0
        public-address: 192.168.122.152
        relations:
          db:
            state: error
        state: started

@OctavianDamiean what was the relation command you typed?

we've got some crap tags that need help

@StefanoPalazzo juju add-relation mediawiki:db mysql:db

weird, that's what I typed as well

looks like mediawiki works anyway

do you know where I can find the error?

What does your status look like?

Oh sorry

Did see that.

It should be in the logs in the directory you set in your environments.yaml

hello

color < color ....

did you mean colour

re: whoever posted that

heh probably

:)

@OctavianDamiean I've got one more thing (:

where do I find the mysql credentials now?

It should be in the logs somewhere.

got it

@StefanoPalazzo ok Sooooo I ran rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:~$ sudo dd if=/home/rdl/Downloads/FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img of=/dev/sdc

rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:~$ sudo dd if=/home/rdl/Downloads/FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img of=/dev/sdc
1872300+0 records in
1872300+0 records out
958617600 bytes (959 MB) copied, 181.391 s, 5.3 MB/s

looks good to me

now cross your fingers and hope it'll boot

rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:~$ cd /media
rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:/media$ ls -la
total 20
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 2011-11-23 15:38 .
drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 2011-11-22 08:18 ..
drwx------  1 rdl  rdl  4096 2011-11-18 11:30 1AC07F5FC07F4055
drwx------  2 rdl  rdl  8192 2011-11-23 15:39 Transcend
rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:/media$ cd Transcend
rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:/media/Transcend$ ls -la
total 12
drwx------ 2 rdl  rdl  8192 2011-11-23 15:39 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2011-11-23 15:38 ..
rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:/media/Transcend$

@OctavianDamiean where can the logs for juju be? (folders)

oh hang on

are they hidden.. or not there?

do you want to do that? /dev/sdc? or should it be /dev/sdc1 with a partition table set up beforehand

try this:

probably should be sdc1 (still grasping linux partitioning)

this is what happens when life gives you windows.

open the disk with gparted (after installing, run "gksu gparted"), delete everything, set up a partition, make it bootable and dd to that instead of the device

like /dev/sdc1

@BrunoPereira Generally they are in the data-dir you've set in your environments.yaml

you never take the time to actually go outside.