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Fabby

12:00 AM

Nothing?

chili555

OK, y'all. Other sports beckon. See you again soon!

Fabby

@chili555 Go play some sports!

Good for ya! ;-)

chili555

LOL! Bye!

Lucio

Hi all

hbdgaf

You don't get unemployment any more, but you can get some other something. Food stamps or welfare or whatever. I never made it that long. I just took sucky jobs first.

Fabby

12:00 AM

@chili555 (and thanks for dropping by)

Lucio

@hbdgaf on a day-by-day?

hbdgaf

@Lucio Yes, daily 3.5 hour each way commute.

Lucio

omg

Fabby

@hbdgaf What are food stamps? (heard of them before, but..)

hbdgaf

@Lucio I slept on the train.

Lucio

12:01 AM

lol ok

hbdgaf

@Fabby I think they call it EBT now, but it's basically limited to specific food products money on what looks like a credit card but isn't.

Fabby

Oh! That's where Chicago is...

@hbdgaf So if you own your own house, you can still buy food, but no (let's say:) cigarettes?

Mateo

@Fabby so, uh - he came back askubuntu.com/questions/645294/…

hbdgaf

@Fabby Nope. You're not allowed to be on assistance and have any assets.

Fabby

@Mateo yup! I told him to ask another question

hbdgaf

12:03 AM

The thought train is "sell your house, rent an apartment, and get back on your feet."

Fabby

as his previous one will help others...

Lucio

@hbdgaf what is that water in the middle btw? looks like a lake

Mateo

lol, not even sure what he is trying to say on that one...

hbdgaf

@Lucio It is.

Lucio

sorry for the ping spam

cool

that first month should have be worth it.

Mateo

12:05 AM

@Lucio a big lake ;) I like going to the sand dunes up in indiana/michigan and there are waves like the ocean front there

Lucio

wow, that sounds awesome

hbdgaf

@Lucio it was sort of. made there in one month what i make here in six... but everything there is horribly expensive.

okay, nap-time so i'm awake for a chat later

Lucio

i wont, so take care!

Mateo

oo, I have a pic on my wall

Lucio

Do someone around runs Ubuntu on her/his phone?

Fabby

12:08 AM

@Mateo answering now...

@Lucio me... on a BQ Aquaris...

Mateo

Lucio

what is it?

the same lake?

Mateo

See those two dots on the right, that is my sister and I

Lucio

you are kidding

Mateo

that is lake michigan

Lucio

12:10 AM

that looks amazing, just like a painting

@Fabby does it run on with android side-by-side?

Fabby

@Lucio No! You can overwrite the Ubuntu Touch firmware with an Android firmware, but I haven't tried that yet...

Lucio

You better don't, Ubuntu OS looks nice there :-)

how does it works for you?

Mateo

it probably wouldn't look like that now, wow - nps.gov/indu/planyourvisit/mt-baldy.htm

Fabby

@Mateo Looks like a scene from a Science fiction movie!

Lucio

I didn't knew you can have a beach on a lake! That's sick

Fabby

12:19 AM

@Lucio It's definitely for early adopters...

Lucio

right

Fabby

BlueTooth FT doesn't work...

Mateo

@Fabby the dune even tries to eat kids - nbcnews.com/news/other/…

Lucio

but is cool to start developing apps with it

Fabby

Bluetooth car pairing doesn't work

@Lucio That's for who it is currently...

Lucio

12:20 AM

whatever gets first gets a big part of the cake ;)

Fabby

Though I'm no developer (any more)

@Lucio yup!!!

Lucio

QA?

Fabby

@Lucio Huh?

Lucio

no idea what do you do nowadays

sorry

Fabby

@Mateo flesh-eating dunes!

Sounds like a very cheap copy of Plan 9 from outer space! ;-)

Question answered if you're interested! ;-)

Mateo

12:23 AM

so yeah, quick sand can happen with dry sand and air - I think they said that there were old houses down there that collapsed to create the sink holes

Fabby

@Mateo O_O

I've only ever seen sink holes in Australia...

(and they were in rocks, not sand)

Lucio

As you're a reputation 1 user: If this answer helped you, don't forget to click the grey ☑ at the left of this text, which means Yes, this answer is valid! ;-) — Fabby 8 mins ago

I see what you did there emoji >.<

BTW, so anyone can erase your phone data?

Mateo

basically, because users forget and we can't have that happen...

Fabby

@Lucio What??? Anyone can erase data when they have physical access???

Yes! That's why we keep servers locked up in dungeons....

(with dragons guarding them!)

(Dragons are a.k.a. "SysEngs")

:D

Lucio

@Fabby I meant that fast

how much? 5 clicks

Fabby

12:29 AM

@Lucio ever heard of dd???

Lucio

lol

Fabby

A.k.a. Disk Destroyer???

Lucio

I thought we were talking about phones

Fabby

I was going to do a @Terdon and actually type the dd command!

Mateo

on mac's you were able to just change the password with any system disk...

Fabby

12:31 AM

From 2 days ago "wiping all of someone's data" is now officially known as "doing an @Terdon"

7

(can someone star that ---^

Lucio

poor terdon, he doesn't need to be mentioned here

Mateo

so easy, that the teachers thought the administrator password was allays admin

Fabby

@Lucio yeah, and it runs Ubuntu... Lemme check whether dd is build-in...

@Mateo :D :D :D

Mateo

it was named that way so you can remember ;o

Fabby

@Lucio Yup! dd comes standard on Ubuntu Touch!!!

>:)

Lucio

12:33 AM

ouch

I saw a bug

Fabby

@Lucio But to get to it you need to:

1/ install the terminal

Mateo

oo, that and dreamweaver could launch programs without the users restrictions - by adding them as "browsers"

Fabby

2/ type your root password

3/ type a correct dd command

Lucio

then i guess it doesn't have users

Fabby

@Mateo Ubuntu touch???

Lucio

12:35 AM

see you people!

Mateo

nah, I was talking about mac's

02.35 am here...

bye

later

@Mateo ah! :D

I havent't touched an Apple since Steve The Good One left Apple...

They should get him back...

... on active duty.

Mateo

12:37 AM

I just used it to play chess before class back when

Fabby

(He is still officially an employee)

Does anyone know what computer program has the lowest ROI?

It's a calculator: It turns a 500+$ machine into a 2$ machine!

>:)

With that, I'm off to bed!

G'night @all...

;-)

Mateo

night

RPi Awesomeness

12:55 AM

@Mateo Oh my.

That's mildly terrifying

Nathan Osman

1:06 AM

I think I found a bug in Qt.

RPi Awesomeness

Eek!

Speaking of which...I still haven't received a response from the Gtk devs on my bug...

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: WHY I'M SWITCHING TO UBUNTU FORUMS

So, I've been using askubuntu for a while now, but the whole the is rigged against the average user. So the same thing happens every time I have a problem on my computer and I go here for an answer First off I'm asking the question and I can't use pictures to describe my problem because I need "...

Nathan Osman

1:28 AM

The bug only seems to manifest itself on Windows...

And the Qt bug tracker is an incredibly large page to load.

Nathan Osman

1:52 AM

bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-47073

Nate

Wifi and all Fn functions don't work on my laptop with Ubuntu 15.04. Any ideas?

Nathan Osman

Did WiFi work on a previous release?

Nate

2:20 AM

I tried 14.04, but no luck

Nathan Osman

3:26 AM

Oh my... this bug is nasty.

You know you're in trouble when commenting out debug statements causes side-effects.

A.B.

4:38 AM

Morning guys

A.B.

4:59 AM

@Fabby we need words of wisdom :) askubuntu.com/q/645279/367165

Seth

5:21 AM

I'm baaaaack!

And it's 11:30... Sleepy.

Nathan Osman

Here we go again: forum.sysinternals.com/what-is-a-tcpcopy_topic23946.html

I find the one guy having the same problem as me and there's nothing posted afterwards.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

6:01 AM

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Q: install php7 alongside php5 on ubuntu

I have installed php 5 as my main version on ubuntu 15.04 which i use to develop my current projects. I want to install php 7 alongside php 5 is there a way to install both??

ubuntu php

SmokeDetector

7:07 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: There is a person what he eats and his brain by Hahu Mome on askubuntu.com

Nathan Osman

That was weird.

My wireless mouse just randomly stopped working. The battery was fine, the signal was fine, Windows just decided for some reason that the USB receiver was no longer attached.

(For the curious, I've got Windows running in order to debug a nasty issue I've been having with a library I was working on. I really, really miss Ubuntu, don't worry.)

Takkat

I don't worry... the more we are forced to use Windows the more we will miss Ubuntu.

Fabby

7:42 AM

@Takkat :-)

Takkat

Every time I used Windows I am 500% happy that we do things differently.

Fabby

@A.B. reading...

A.B.

@Fabby what? :)

Ah, the question

Byte Commander

9:06 AM

English question: Is it deinstall or uninstall or neither of them?

Byte Commander

9:26 AM

@Fabby Well, I only had it in the second year of my senior classes and only in the advanced course... And also it was more or less only the basics. We did not really explain Schroedinger, for example ;)

Oli

@ByteCommander uninstall

Fabby

@NathanOsman Ouch!

Oli

Though I don't think it's English as much as computer jargon made canon through popular usage.

Byte Commander

9:43 AM

@Oli It seems to be no proper English, at least my Firefox spell-checker does not recognize it...

Fabby

9:54 AM

@ByteCommander But anyone in the industry will understand! Just add "uninstall" to the dictionary... ;-)

Byte Commander

I can do that?

I never thought of that...

Fabby

"remove" would be better English, but no one uses that!

It's like saying "excrement" when you can use "shit"

no one uses the first except not to get banned from chat; same with "uninstall"

@ByteCommander Right-click, "add to dictionary"

@ByteCommander :D

Byte Commander

@Fabby I'm so tempted to star that! xD

Fabby

@ByteCommander :P

Byte Commander

Ah, there it is.

I never really noticed that button...

Fabby

9:57 AM

@ByteCommander If you do, hold up your left hand and count on your fingers how old you are!

;-)

Byte Commander

I can do that.

Binary.

:D

Fabby

:D So you never added "Desoxyribonukleinsäure" to your German dictionary???

Well, you live and you learn...

Byte Commander

Nope.

Fabby

I look up a word once in the dictionary and then just add it to my personal one so I never have to look it up again!

(starting with my name, which for some or other reason isn't in there! :D)

Oli

@ByteCommander That's odd. "uninstall" is in my en-GB dictionary but it doesn't like "Uninstall".

Or have I added it to my personal dict?

Byte Commander

10:02 AM

I use the US dict.

Fabby

@ByteCommander Wrong dictionary! Outside of the US everyone uses UK...

Oli

Yeah it's in my personal dict...

Fabby

(as that's the English you get in school)

Colour, perambulator, anti-clockwise, ...

Byte Commander

US has less weird words than UK...

Oli

*fewer

Byte Commander

10:06 AM

Okay? Thanks.

Oli

And "burglarize" would beg to differ

Byte Commander

Just that this was definitely not worth a star.

Fabby

Not me!

Byte Commander

When does one use less and fewer then correctly?

Fabby

Is Paranoid Panda around?

Byte Commander

10:07 AM

Nope.

Fabby

less than me

fewer items

Byte Commander

less only with "than"?

Fabby

I would say "fewer than" is wrong...

(but I'm not a native speaker...)

@Oli ??? -----^

Oli

@ByteCommander There is certainly some ambiguity but broadly speaking if you're talking about one thing being smaller, or a unit quantity, you use "less", and if you're talking about a quantity of things, it's fewer.

Byte Commander

Okay, I'll keep with this rule until somebody else corrects me again ;)

Thanks!

Fabby

10:10 AM

:) Thanks²!!! :D

Oli

Use less ketchup!
We have three fewer bottles of ketchup than we did yesterday
These new bottles hold 100ml less ketchup than the old ones

Fabby

ambiguous indeed!

back to jobs!

Oli

The ambiguity comes when you can argue that the less refers to the number, famously (here) "10 items or less" at a supermarket checkout.

But enough of that, here's our puppy having his first swim!

Monty 's first swim

►

Fabby

Erm, refers to the number... But I got it...

@Oli :D no hesitation!

Byte Commander

Aww, what a cutie... :)

Byte Commander

10:32 AM

Erm - why does an edit need more than one reviewers to get approved? I could have done the edit myself without any approval, so where's the difference?

And I am thinking about writing an F-Request on MSE about showing edits one has approved but are not double-approved yet instead of the unedited question... Any feedback from here about that?

Btw this is it: approve please

Oli

Bit weird, I'll admit. Perhaps it's to stop people robo-reviewing their way through the suggested edits list and make sure edits are as good as they should be.

Mitch

@Oli Good Morning

Oli

Morning!

Mitch

Can I ask for your help Here

Byte Commander

@Oli Okay, but if I'm not in the review queue but at the question itself? I don't "robo-review" by walking through all questions... They could at least change it there or make the edit at least visible for me after I approved it.

Oli

10:40 AM

@ByteCommander Next time, see what happens if you click the "Accept and improve" box and push a few extra improvements.

Byte Commander

Hmm... okay. Not really The Right Way™, but a dirty hack, but if it works...

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

11:06 AM

0

Q: Booting the already installed Ubuntu 14 from the VirtualBox installed in Windows 7

Like the Titles says, i was wondering if there is any way to start ubuntu System in VirtualBox from Windows 7 which is already installed on harddisk

ubuntu windows virtualbox

A.B.

2

Q: How to update jdk 7?

I am using ubuntu 14.04 version, 64 bit. when I give java -version in terminal, I get : java version "1.7.0_65" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.5.3) (7u71-2.5.3-0ubuntu0.14.04.1) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.65-b04, mixed mode) So I have jdk version 1.7.0_65 already running in my...

apt java ppa jdk

Any ideas? ^^^^

Byte Commander

It is awful that smokey does never care whether somebody is speaking or not... He just shouts in.

Sometimes I even feel like he waits for somebody to talk so that he can interrupt him.

Journeyman Geek

how rude

Fabby

12:10 PM

@ByteCommander And this guy never checks spelling or grammar: only formatting... Whereas the spelling and grammar is the most difficult bit...

Byte Commander

Better a better formatting than no improvement at all...

I was too lazy to recheck the whole thing.

Fabby

I reject and improve his edits now...

>:)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Ubuntu 14.04: not booting after kernel startup

I already posted on askUbuntu, but I'd like to reach a broader audience since this problem is getting more complicated. To briefly resume, I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on an IBM server equiped with an LSI 1064 RAID card (it has been running Ubuntu 10 so far). I don't think it's related to the raid c...

ubuntu boot upstart

Fabby

cross-post ----^ VTC please...

RPi Awesomeness

12:44 PM

Is it possible to make atrun a command via sudo?

Fabby

atrun
atrun: command not found

Byte Commander

@Fabby The command is at

You have to install it first.

But I could not figure out myself how to get it o work even without any sudo experiments...

Fabby

1:00 PM

ah! Now I understand! ;-)

@RPiAwesomeness If you edit the sudoers file, yes...

A.B.

1:25 PM

Guys, it's too hot here

Helio

@terdon: I need a bit of spanish language help. PING

As you're offline now, I'll put here the question and I'll read the reply tonight/tomorrow.

How can I say that a human being destaca en algo in a formal way?

I. E.: Fulanito destaca en Bellas Artes

1:37 PM

@Mitch :-)

:D

Nice one. :)

user136984

2:18 PM

That penguin looks menacing... :D

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: Problems downloading playlist using youtube-dl by availablespace on askubuntu.com

Mateo

2:50 PM

@Fabby I think it says that it is there:

:)

user136984

3:01 PM

This keeps on coming up, anyone know what it is?

user136984

0

Q: Strange see-through pane on top of everything

I have just suddenly noticed that there is a strange see-through pane that goes on top of everything, there is not way to move it, close it, or move anything in front of it, it looks like this: So, what is it, and how do I get rid of it as it is rather annoying? And seems to have just appeared...

appearance

user136984

:)

Mateo

which desktop or which window manager

and what compositor, compiz compton

@ParanoidPanda try changing blur settings: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/781450

oh, well maybe not that one...

maybe this? bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/152264

user136984

@Mateo: I'll have a look at those, I've got the Unity desktop, what do you mean by window manager?

Mateo

xfce, lxde, kde

user136984

3:10 PM

Oh... I have no idea... How do I check? :D

Mateo

nah, you are on unity with compiz

user136984

Oh...

user136984

:D

Mateo

they group all that stuff together

user136984

Right

Mateo

3:12 PM

oh, and did you ever change the theme

user136984

Yes, but since I did a fresh install recently, no...

user136984

@Mateo It looks like that...

user136984

But not happening at the same time as how they say to reproduce that one...

A.B.

Aaaaaaaah askubuntu.com/a/645547/367165

Terrance

3:32 PM

@A.B. Looks like he is missing stuff in that answer. What you did seemed to work fine.

Fabby

@A.B. You're trying to get a rep 1 user to do a make?

A.B.

I belive, he need sudo apt-get install cmake-data

@Fabby yes o_O

He drives me crazy

Fabby

that's like trying to tell someone who's never used DOS to compile and link an executable

:D

Terrance

@A.B. I think you're correct on that one.

@Fabby LOL

Fabby

I wouldn't even start answering him: too much effort for too little rep!

A.B.

3:35 PM

@Fabby I know

=\

Fabby

There! Sympathy vote!

>:)

Terrance

@A.B. you got mine. +1

A.B.

=)

Thx

It's a hard work, but funny =)

Thomas W.

puts @Mateo into a box in the center of the room and leaves him there

Terrance

@A.B. Good comment. Starting over is sometimes the BEST place to start. :)

A.B.

3:42 PM

@Terrance :)

Terrance

@A.B. Thank you for your edit on that answer. It looks a lot better! :D

A.B.

You're welcome =)

user136984

4:20 PM

VTC this question.

Nathan Osman

My computer kept turning itself on last night.

Terrance

4:44 PM

@NathanOsman it's haunted! :P

user139252

4:57 PM

I just wanted to announce that my STEM club officially has the best subnetwork now.

user139252

We got 9 computers for the students to use

user139252

All attached to a central server

user139252

I named that server Yggdrasil

user139252

Anyone wanna guess the hostnames of each of the PCs?

user139252

Yes, this is relevant, as they are all running Ubuntu :p

Terrance

4:58 PM

@NathanOsman do you think that you might have had power failures last night? I know that some BIOSes default to power on after power failures.

Nathan Osman

No power failures.

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