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12:00 AM
the fact that they can be recovered into plain text is terrible terrible.
 
and that someone is viewing them plain...
 
gotta say that is just a funny thing to remember, old twitter for sure.
 
definitely
 
so, what is the weather on the states?
here is cold. wrooow
 
26 here.
not too humid thankfully.
 
12:06 AM
I hope that is C
 
I should probably put some shorts on.
@Lucio I always convert to Celsius when posting online :)
 
oh ok, that's nice. Thanks!
 
but DAAAAD it's only 40F degrees outside. why can't i wear shorts in the snow.
 
I hate Celsius pretty badly, but I respect that the rest of the world uses it. I also respect that Fahrenheit is hard to spell.
 
@hbdgaf because heritage, son!
 
12:12 AM
heh. i suppose. i generally do well in cold weather without much insulation unless i'm at rest though.
 
I've never been on a cold weather in my life.
 
I've never been inside the arctic circle or in northern alaska, but I've seen cold weather for sure.
 
Yeah, north italy can be hard.
I'll probably do it on my PTA holidays, so yeah, I'm thinking what the hell am going to wear there.
BTW, what does PTA stands for?
 
PA, northern IN, and northern IL were about as far as I tested.
 
not related for sure
It is like holidays
well, nevermind..
So what does people wear over there?
 
12:18 AM
clothes.
 
that's good
I can get used.
Normal T-shirt, a sweater, and then an extremely big jacket. Will this be ok?
 
man, finding an atom light syntax theme that I really like has been a chore.
I found several nice dark ones, but no light ones.
 
devs want to act in shadows.
 
I don't :P
@Lucio If you mean ok as in appropriate, yeah, that's pretty much what I wear. Jeans/shorts a t-shirt and a zip up hoodie.
If it's cold or I plan to be out in the rain for a while I wear a bigger coat.
If it's ok as in appropriate for the climate that'd depend on where you are going..
 
11 mins ago, by Lucio
I'll probably do it on my PTA holidays, so yeah, I'm thinking what the hell am going to wear there.
I was talking more about the cold thing that we were talking about a couple of mins before
 
12:27 AM
Northern Italy?
 
anywhere very cold, yeah
snow and everything
 
No idea then. I assumed you meant states because you were asking about the temp and all :p
 
@Seth No, I am not, but I am now
 
@Seth heh, sorry for that
> Raining in atlanta, seattle and some in boston. Will be nice on california and the middle as always.
^ just hear that on TV
 
@RPiAwesomeness Good enough for me. Do you consider this a copy of your answer or is it different? askubuntu.com/questions/613514/home-folder-keeps-re-opening/…
 
12:28 AM
Zip up hoodie! I knew you wear that Seth :)
 
@Lucio Well I can tell you at least part of that is wrong ;p
 
I had to google that but yeah, I like those.
@Seth that is good enough for TV bud
 
@Seth Well, it's the OP who's answering that sooooo, I'd say it's an attempt to respond to my answer.
 
@Seth Coat. Another new thing for me. Lest week a neighborhood given me one of those.
 
@RPiAwesomeness yeah, but is he confirming yours or saying yours didn't work but he modified it so that it works? I can't tell.
@Lucio True.
 
12:31 AM
@Seth I think he's confirming my answer worked partially.
 
@Lucio Never needed a coat? You must live in a very warm place!
@RPiAwesomeness I guess we could ask him xD
 
Yeah, I just left a comment.
 
@Seth Hah yeah, I hope to wear it once or twice as much in a month. That will be a good usage :)
 
Maybe someone should upgoat my answer to show him what to do... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
@Lucio Yes! I don't wear mine that often either. Climate around here is temperate enough that it's only used a little in the late fall and throughout the winter.
But I usually skip it if I know I won't be outside that much (i.e. just going to another warm place)
 
12:35 AM
right, we are similar then :)
 
Woo! 3k repz!
Close/Reopen Queues - here I come!
 
Hey congrats!
 
/me runs away maaing in a terrified manner with his fluffy tail between his legs
 
@RPiAwesomeness have fun ;)
 
@Mateo Indeed.
Next goal, 5k. Will I be able to do it this year? Doubtful. Next year, for sure.
 
12:40 AM
You never know ;p
 
how are you doing @JourneymanGeek?
 
Mostly good ;p
 
great :)
 
@RPiAwesomeness Nice! Just don't downvote any answers lol.
 
^that
 
12:42 AM
@Seth lol, ikr >.<
 
:O
 
Ohhh, that is a sight I have wanted to see for quite some time :D
I've had the ability to do this on RPi.SE for quite some time now, but that's a Beta site.
 
@RPiAwesomeness Welcome to the "I am so peace off with you that I want to you to dye" list :)
 
@Lucio tie dye some peace t-shirts? sure!
 
:D
@Lucio \o/ Woo! More people I can watch @Seth bludgeon brutally with the ban hammer! :D
 
12:47 AM
Did you ever hear about bomb mails?
 
@Lucio o.O No, but they sound deadly.
 
me neither. :P
Let me guess, new speed connection @Rpi?
 
@Lucio Hmm?
New speed?
 
you can't reach 3k with 128k/256
 
I'm confused
 
12:50 AM
how fast is your internet connection right now?
Internet, you know..
 
Same as it has always been. ~80 Kb/s down, ~30 Kb/s up.
 
that thing called protocol that some people agreed so we can talk about it.
 
@RPiAwesomeness and you reached 3K rep with that. You deserve a gold badge for that.
 
@Lucio ikr.
@Seth New badge idea! Reach 3k rep while using sub 1/2 Mb/s down internet speeds!
@Lucio I can't tell you how many easy answers I've missed because of the time it takes me to look up the stuff I need for my answer.
 
12:53 AM
lol
I understand you
I'm not an english native ;)
 
Well, I'll at least be getting 6/1 down/up by June 23rd.
Perhaps 20/5 down/up. But most likely 6/1 down/up.
 
glad to hear it
 
Indeed.
Unfortunately, we have to get it from Comcast ... :P
 
Apr 18 at 3:56, by Lucio
It's amazing to go back to my very first post and notice my english there. It looks like my dog was writing for me! Weekend throw back..
In that time, I spent 25 mins average to write down an answer.
 
Whoa
Was 11.10 your first Ubuntu version?
 
12:56 AM
I think so
 
Cool! Me too.
 
:)
 
Granted, I didn't get on Ask Ubuntu until like 12.04/13.04.
 
mine was like 8.04 i think
 
Showoff.
;)
 
12:57 AM
I was on fedora before that from version 4-8
 
First experience I had with the Ubuntu community was on the forums because I enabled the proposed updates and it nuked Unity for me.
 
@RPiAwesomeness First step understand the question. Second, get my mind to find out a solution. Third step, translate my solution back to english. Google was in the middle of all these procedures.
 
still have the book I learned from, one of those giant books with a dvd
 
Then, being the n00b at OSes I was, I started up the Live CD I had, started Gparted ... and decidedly deleted the Ubuntu partition. Then, obviously, I was stuck with the GRUB Rescue prompt.
 
lol
 
12:58 AM
And I freaked out!
 
ouch
 
Now...what feature to add next...
 
@Lucio ew, naked
 
1:00 AM
POP3 support? IMAP support? Attachments.
 
@Lucio yeah... no..,.
 
@Lucio NSFW! NSFW! :D
 
jk
@Mateo it doesn't display unless you click!
 
well... guess who clicked because you pinged him...
 
@Mateo Man. You are old. You managed to be da Vinci's model!
 
1:01 AM
@Mateo not George Edison penguin? :)
 
I did have my hair that long before
 
hahaha
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Q: I saw something in chat I don't understand

hbdgafWhat are some of the common chat items? I want to understand what people who are more familiar with other chat clients are trying to say to me.

Funny thing: I turned on the computer to work on a personal project. Guess what happened next.. :)
 
@Lucio Umm...it blew up.
 
no, you
I mean not you, all of you..
you != you
because English!
 
It's just crazy English ;)
 
1:07 AM
assert(you != you)... KAPOOYAH!
4
 
heh, ikr
 
@RPiAwesomeness hahaha
 
have a good night all!
 
@Lucio night!
 
1:12 AM
Hooo boyo. Adding attachment support via the email module is not something that should be done at 9:12 at night...
I think I may just wait this one out until tomorrow. I fixed a major bug today, lets not screw everything over because I'm pushing for that little bit extra...
I now want GitHub gear. >.< Just another thing to spend money on that I can't spend money on :P
 
they made more stickers...
 
They did indeed.
 
1:52 AM
@Seth Thoughts on a synonym of named ?
 
2:23 AM
@muru Well since polkit has 0 questions I'd guess it's too late now ;P
It looks like polkit is the new name for policykit though, so I was thinking we might want to go the other way.
 
@RPiAwesomeness: I know the feeling. Get a fund? ;p
(That said, I'm buying some pretty cool movie related gear off work)
 
2:44 AM
You're lucky your work lets you do that.
Around here the manwork required to file the tax stuff with the IRS relating to given or sold products makes most companies (or at least the ones I know) just grind it all up and call it a loss.
Or at least those are the excuses they give.
 
@Seth I was about to create a polkit tag, then noticed policykit, that's why I asked
If we can rename a tag, that would be great, but failing that, a synonym would be nice
 
We can merge tags, but it's a lot messier than synonymization and cannot be undone without a developer's help, which makes you rather unpopular with the SE staff ;)
I'd vote synonym if we can avoid a merge.
@muru --^
 
@Seth don't have enough score to suggest a syonym
 
@muru currently doesn't exist (or at least it has 0 questions). I'm not sure I can synonymize them until it has one. Were you going to ask a question or should I just retag one?
And which way do you think the synonymization should go?
 
@Seth polkit is the official name, but no currently packaged stable version of it in Ubuntu or Debian use that name. askubuntu.com/q/614534/158442 prompted the question. I use Polkit in my answer, but had to tag the question `policykit
 
3:00 AM
@muru aha, I think I got it to work without having any questions.
 
@Seth Excellent! Thanks!
 
I may or may not have accidentally made a synonym of at the same time ;)
@muru anytime.
 
@Seth You have made it a synonym. Got a badge! \o\|o|/o/
 
@muru \o/
 
3:06 AM
Friendly bloke that.
 
so the name was changed to "stu"?
 
wow, so are swear words blocked in usernames, or are they auto sent to mods or something
 
no his name was sh*t.
but I destroyed him so his account was anonymized.
 
aw
that was funny, star worthy
 
eh
 
3:10 AM
are we children? is swearing funny? :-/
 
well...
in some strange situations, but normally not
 
heh, didn't mean to provoke deep thoughts
 
I can see where it might be considered kind of funny, but I never swear and a) would rather not have my name tied to a "swear word" in the stars and b) would probably just be asked to unstar it tomorrow anyway.
 
I usually get a kick out of double meanings, or things that are literal
but yeah...
 
right, and I can see that. And if it wasn't my name I'd probably let it go until someone called issue.
 
3:17 AM
huh, can't pull up the webdm from the snappy vagrant image
wonder if if there is a way to get through
I remember somthing else I used for vagrant just configured the address on the inside to 0.0.0.0
 
I keep getting the feeling that I am fighting Qt, which makes me think I'm doing something wrong..
 
what are you working on with it
 
@Mateo I'm rewriting something Nathan started a while ago but didn't ever get finished. I'll leave you to guess what for now.. ;)
(I don't really want to talk too much about it because I'm doing it in my fluctuating free time with no real experience or timeline so it may never come to anything in the end, although I hope not)
 
he works in qt a lot so could be anything
 
@JourneymanGeek A fund?
Hm?
 
3:25 AM
@RPiAwesomeness like patreon - or a pledgie - so we give you money for you working on cool stuff
 
lol. Put side X amount of money a month for stuff like that? ;p
 
@Mateo Oh, yeah :D You guys give me money...so I can buy stuff and review it! :D
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, I figured that's what you meant.
 
something like that yeah
 
Problem is, my mom is on my case about saving for college and says she won't let me spend more than $10 on anything until I lay out a plan :P
 
@Mateo If you think hard enough you'll get it, you were involved briefly too :)
 
3:27 AM
I've at least got one job, part-time, $10 hr.
 
And it's kind of related to the site.
 
@Seth oh? hm...
 
Anyway, I've got some research and cleaning to do.
 
oh, the question wizzard type thing?
 
hmm, is it really necessary to go to college anymore?
 
3:31 AM
Kinda.
 
Yeah, kinda.
 
yeah, not like it helped me yet, but yeah...
 
toeing the party line, eh ? :)
 
While the certification is usually out of date and partially useless by the time you're done, you still kinda need to prove you know how to do stuff
 
hmm, true, but with software you can show them what you built
 
3:32 AM
I do really want to go through college without debt, but that's pretty hard.
@Chan-HoSuh Yeah, but it's still good to have certification - you can get better jobs.
 
I didn't get a job till I graduated.
 
make sure you work a job at the same time in the same field, because all jobs require like 3 years, so...
:p
 
lol
Or have decent networking.
You need to know someone who knows someone for the fun low level crap ;p
 
RAM Upgrade, Cooling Upgrade, Storage Upgrade, New Mouse, Mechanical Keyboard, second (decent quality) monitor, vert-desk, GitHub stickers/t-shirt/mug, Tek Syndicate shirt, Awesomesauce News t-shirt, Pauls Hardware T-shirt, Ubuntu T-shirt, ATX M-50X, AT-2020, headphone/microphone amp(s)... sigh
 
@Mateo ding ding. I'm trying to do it in python this time, since I think that's something more people can/will help out with. I know I would have helped with the original project more if it had been python instead of C++.
Nothing against C++ I just didn't (and still don't) know it that well.
 
3:43 AM
@RPiAwesomeness hm, almost want the t-shrit of the month penguin...
 
@Mateo Eeeeh, I find it rather ugly
 
almost...
 
A dude that became a pro at C++ after 10 years, told me he didn't know it that well.. That's the kind of language it is :D
 
@Chan-HoSuh ikr!
 
@Seth well, plus qt5 wasn't in repo yet, so it was uphill battle
 
3:44 AM
qt5 still isn't in the repos.
 
I really like C++, I simply haven't done anything with it.
 
ah...
I made a scope!
 
I'm going towards qt4 atm, but I could use gtk too. At this point qt is only a little easier than gtk. And harder in some other areas..
 
Now, that's a question I have - Gtk+ or Qt5?
 
Oh I like C++ too.
But I just don't think it's right for this project.
 
3:45 AM
pygi is cool, with python 3
 
@RPiAwesomeness Personal preference really. The python bindings are better documented on the gtk side, but if you're using C++ Qt has pretty nice docs.
 
I see.
 
I'd start learning a little of both and then go with the one you like better.
That's what I'm doing.
Some other pluses Qt has though are Qt Designer (a gui designer) and the fact that it's a lot more than just a gui platform.
 
hbdgaf put together a cool template app for pygi once, wonder where that was floating around - had a indicator, and a few windows that you might want
 
gtk has glade, but it is pretty bad.
 
3:49 AM
Whoaaaaa! I'm top comment on a Pauls Hardware video! Wut...
I knew he had responded, didn't know it was top comment (after the soandso has shared this ... message)
 
nice one
 
lol. I honestly don't care that much, but found it funny.
 
aren't they locking down firmware on the 9xx cards?
so you can't run opensource drivers?
 
Dunno
Well, that would suck.
If that's the truth, I think AMD may become the Linux choice...
 
well, I always used the propitiatory dirvers... so not as big of a problem. but kind of big since that means out of box might be low-graphics mode type of bad
 
3:54 AM
It might be a problem eventually though if Canonical can't get the companies on board with Mir..
Or so I've heard.
 
well I'm off to bed.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't shutdown by miro5lav on askubuntu.com
 
4:19 AM
 
 
1 hour later…
5:27 AM
Hi
how can i make dir in this format test_2015-04-28 i tired like this mkadir test_'date %F'
 
6:06 AM
mkdir test_$(date +%F)
The better tool is aria2:
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A: Why cant I download OpenSUSE With Ubuntu

A.B.Two interesting programs, wget and aria2. Although I would recommend aria2. Aria2 can download a file from multiple sources/protocols and tries to utilize your maximum download bandwidth. Really speeds up your download experience. Open the terminal: Ctrl+Shift+T Pick a mirror from this list Dow...

@abhi mkdir test_$(date +%F)
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: http://www.buyantiagingformula.com/rejuve-tx-wrinkle-cream/ by uehoss Comd on askubuntu.com
 
6:37 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Best Normal Skincare And Makeup For The Face by James Harris on askubuntu.com
 
7:11 AM
hi on a laptop , HD dying. booted thru unetbootin live. have a EXfat external drive i want to use. if i install exfat support and then install ubuntu on that drive will the installer work - or other steps to install on a exfat drive? can i partition it?
but need to make a sticky install after
will be back in a few
 
Prolly not
 
keep this open or flag as "bug"? askubuntu.com/questions/614780/…
 
7:48 AM
ah well; answered it
 
@Seth: I've looked here but it's only viewed 197 times, so not that popular, but I do seem to be a SPAM magnet! ;-)
 
8:25 AM
0
Q: Error occuring while installing fortran 77 compilers

user402576When i'm trying to install fortran 77 compilers in UBUNTU. Its coming like as shown below. I've installed the g77. I'm new to this UBUNTU and Fortran.. Someone please help me.. I typed the following in the terminal: $ sudo apt-get install fort77 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency...

@Fabby Why is the questioner not clickable?
 
I suppose user402576 is an anonymous user, but @Oli will certainly correct me if I'm wrong...
 
some people join - throw a question - realise what the answer was and then just delete their account
 
8:41 AM
o/
 
This is a cross-post Close votes needed...
 
Hi Fabby!
Chemistry presentation now is finally over.
 
Good!
When will you get your marks?
 
Thursday.
 
Can I have a copy?
 
8:48 AM
Still want the ppt?
 
:D
 
slow chat... :P
Sure.
Erm... Btw you know how to delete a contact from skype?
 
@Fabby voted
 
9:03 AM
@Fabby I sent it via skype, but you went yellow...
 
@Rinzwind faster :)
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Q: What does ls -al do when entered?

Kristens TaurinsHello i'm newbie in ubuntu Can someone describe what ls -al do? If possible show an example. Thank you.

 
@A.B. sure but she askes specifically for examples. where are yours? ;-)
 
@ByteCommander I was having smtg to eat...
Did you cancel?
 
okay... Now it's green again.
 
@A.B. Thanks!
 
9:04 AM
No, it still shows me "waiting for Fabby to accept"
 
@ByteCommander right-click on the contact and then click "remove from contacts"
 
@ByteCommander :) Just found the window hidden behind other windows...
 
It does not show up in the contact list, but in the chat window.
It's somebody I sent a contact request, but it turned out it was another person with the same name...
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: http://www.thefitnesswork.com by jirossshin jess on askubuntu.com
 
9:13 AM
@Rinzwind A +1 from me to you. :)
 
9:42 AM
@A.B. Both were good so you both got an upvote from me...
 
kos
10:04 AM
I asked this yesterday already but got an answer only from @terdon, is someone aware of any native bash trick to expand the content of a variable containing a path without escaping backslashes? i.e. without using read, globs or parsing the variable with with something else, something like a clever way to nest single / double quotes
 
@kos and you doubt Terdon?
 
0
Q: Make web project writable by netbeans

eliI know about Make web project writable by apache and other user and I have the same problem, but the solution there is not working for me. I am new to Linux and it is difficult to understand why adduser netbeans is used in the solution. It results in adduser: The group 'netbeans' already exists. ...

 
kos
@Rinzwind No but I think he gave me the most straightforward solution, which I appreciated, but it's a little disappointing and looks a little strange that bash can't do that natively, even considering not-so-straightforward hacks
 
funny ->
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Q: "mv file" and now it's missing

JohnIn a terminal window, I typed: mv filename ..\.. [Note the wrong slash.] Now I can't find it. Gone. I ran some searches and looked through recoverable deleted files. Nothing. Poof. Serves me right for using a Windows machine right before. Anyone know where it might have gone?

 
@kos Hang on, I just gave you a way to iterate over files. What do you mean by "expand the content of a variable containing a path"? To do what with it? Parse it or treat it as a path? Could you give an example?
 
10:10 AM
ha and there he is!
\o
 
@Rinzwind You summoned me!
Suggesting someone might actually be doubting me! GASP!
:P
 
kos
@terdon Referring to the answer I gave yesterday below wich you pointed out that path containing backslashes woud have broke the script, i parsed the output of find in a while loop redirecting it as a string, and I found no way to expand the variable containing such string without escaping the backslashes, so it refers to both cases, the problem is that such variable expanded within double-quotes would automatically escape both spaces and backslashes.
 
OK, so you mean something like /dir1/sub\dir/file ?
 
kos
@terdon Yes exactly
 
In that case, you want the backslashes escaped.
I mean, you want them to be treated just like any other character.
 
kos
10:18 AM
@terdon Hmmm let me check one thing, perhaps I messed up elsewhere
 
If you want to treat that as text and not as a path, you can use <<< :
$ v='dir1/sub\dir'
$ sed 's/d/D/g' <<<$v
Dir1/sub\Dir
 
kos
@terdon No it seems not, let me rephrase it a little better: a filename outputted by find and stored in a variable preserves that backslashes contained in the filename, which is actually what i want, but expanding the variable containing such filename within double quotes escapes both spaces (which I'm fine with) and backslashes (which I'm not fine with: file not found while processing the path in the script)
 
Ah, yes but that's because the backslashes are not escaped and they need to be.
 
kos
@terdon Sorry you're obviously right. I explained that badly, backslashes should be printed.
 
But, hang on.
$ file=$(find . -name file )
$ echo $file
./dir 1/sub\dir/file
$ cat $file
cat: ./dir: No such file or directory
cat: 1/sub\dir/file: No such file or directory
$ cat "$file"
hello
 
10:29 AM
I need 3 rep for 4000 :)
 
kos
@terdon Which is weird, because expanding it within the script (askubuntu.com/a/614784/380067) escapes backslashes
 
@A.B. You're already at 4k? o.O
Wow.
I am still at about 3.17k
 
@ByteCommander He, your name is back =)
 
@A.B. Yes, thanks to Seth's grace...
They should prompt a warning about the 30days limit before changing usernames.
 
@kos Sorry, I have to go. Could you show me an example of where it breaks? I'll have a look when I get back.
 
kos
10:42 AM
@terdon Sure, thanks for your help. Just running find . | while read line; do mv "${line}" "${line}1"; done in a directory with only one file named "file\ with\ spaces\ and\ backslashes" breaks it
 

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