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1:41 AM

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Q: Start/stop service script like Ubuntu for RedHat

Is there a .sh script that manages starting and stopping the service like Debian/Ubuntu but for Red Hat/Fedora? Looking to place it into the file running some software.

Seth

Anyone know of a utility like zless, but that supports markdown?

Journeyman Geek

@Seth: blog.metamatt.com/blog/2013/01/09/… looks like a start

shamelessly admits to just googling that up, but it makes sense.

Seth

yeah I read that already. Right now converting it doesn't suite my needs :/

This looks hopeful though: github.com/tj/mad

jrg

2:09 AM

@RPiAwesomeness looks like I was mistaken, not a i5. Was another AMD variant.

Sorry!

RPi Awesomeness

2:34 AM

@jrg That's okay :D Thanks anyways! :D

Seth

Anyone ever used Light Table?

Jasper Loy

@Seth I am on Ubuntu Mate 14.10.

Nathan Osman

@Seth It looks a lot like Sublime.

Seth

@JasperLoy Yay!

@NathanOsman I thought it looked more like Atom, but ok :P

But Atom's vim plugin is annoying >.>

So, what are you thinking @JasperLoy? Like it?

Nathan Osman

The default font in Atom gave me a literal headache.

Seth

2:40 AM

Just change it :P

Nathan Osman

:P

Jasper Loy

@Seth Yes. It might become my favourite distro. I hope they release Ubuntu Mate 14.04 LTS soon, as mentioned in their blog.

Seth

That'd certainly be nice.

Jasper Loy

@seth Is your age a secret?

Seth

@JasperLoy Well, everyone who started talking about it suddenly disappeared...

lol, ok, yes. and no.

Jasper Loy

2:41 AM

Can you tell me how old you are? LOL.

Seth

I'm sure there are a few people around here who know, but I don't really like it.

Jasper Loy

OK then, up to you. I turned 33 this year.

Seth

I see :)

I decided a while ago that I would just be an anonymous person on the internet.. I got too paranoid :P

Jasper Loy

OK. However, I am a very weird person. Don't try to imagine my thoughts, lol.

My top 4 choices would be: Debian with Mate, Ubuntu Mate, Mint based on Debian with Mate, and Mint based on Ubuntu with Mate.

It would be hard to choose between the 4, lol.

Seth

haha

The main reason I use Ubuntu is because I love the community :)

and I LOVE Unity, although I understand that isn't everyone's cup of tea.

If I couldn't use Ubuntu I'd probably use Debian with Xfce.

oh, and Ubuntu has nice wallpapers and catchy names :P

Jasper Loy

2:49 AM

My favourite is actually Microsoft Windows with Microsoft Office, lol. I will buy a copy when I am rich.

Seth

What do you think of Windows 10 then?

Jasper Loy

I switched to Linux just to experiment, and I can't reinstall my Windows now because I already wiped out everything and have no recovery disc.

@Seth No idea, not following latest developments. But I hope they go back to the old look. That is, I prefer Windows 7 to 8.

Mateo

@JasperLoy basically, they put the start menu back(with tiles stuffed in) and put the metro apps(the full screen ones you couldn't get out of) into windows, added a search(that also searches internet) and multiple desktops

Seth

@JasperLoy Take a look around here: windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-how-to#how-to=tab0

I really like it (I have it installed on another partition)

@JasperLoy That's a sad story :/

Mateo

@Seth but they do have keyloggers and stuff, since it is a preview...

Seth

2:55 AM

Don't you have a MS product key somewhere on your computer?

Mateo

if it is a laptop, it isn't always that easy...

Jasper Loy

@Seth But having the key itself is useless without any disc!

Seth

In the US all computers ship with an OEM product key so, theoretically, you could get the manufacturer to lend you a Windows CD/USB for a week and you use the product key on the machine.

(I've done that 4/5 time for different friends, it generally cost around $20/$40 USD, but that is a lot cheaper than Windows)

@Mateo yeah I read that.

@Mateo zemana.com/product/antilogger-free/overview

Mateo

@Seth some of the major ones have gone manufacture specific, with xp you could use a OEM disk with the key, but you probably need the manufacturer’s disks

Seth

@Mateo hm, well it is usually easiest to get those anyway, but good intel. Thanks.

iirc Toshiba sells you the disks and Dell rents them or lends them to you..

Jasper Loy

3:03 AM

Will I have problems using Windows after using Linux for too long?

Mateo

hrm, dell.com/support/diagnostics/us/en/19/… "If your Dell device is under warranty"

Seth

@Mateo The ones I worked on were all out of warranty.

I can't remember, but they probably charged us a small fee because of that.

Mateo

@Seth ah maybe

Seth

@JasperLoy That probably depends on your hardware and your habits. I'd go dual boot.

Mateo

just too much of a headache, the church computer asked to be activated again after rolling back an update they pushed that was crashing stuff

Journeyman Geek

3:07 AM

@JasperLoy: In my opinion, no

I've been bouncing back and forth for the last decade or so

@JasperLoy What version of windows?

Mateo

@JasperLoy I would, but... you'll probably do fine

Jasper Loy

@JourneymanGeek A future version, lol.

Journeyman Geek

With 7 and better I'm pretty certain you can just grab a retail iso off digital river, and use the key on the sticker.

chaskes

that's correct

Journeyman Geek

With 8 onwards, I think they key is embedded in the bios.

chaskes

3:09 AM

also correct, just get the iso

Journeyman Geek

Also, for experimenting with linux, VMs are nice ;p

Mateo

@JourneymanGeek not if it is a manufacture sticker

Journeyman Geek

@Mateo: It worked for me with windows 7

chaskes

me too

Journeyman Geek

(but then again, I dropped a total of 350 dollars for a small linux box, and its glorious)

Mateo

3:10 AM

windows 7 with a hp serial gave me major problems with a oem disk

Journeyman Geek

@Mateo: I didn't use a oem disk, I used a retail disk

chaskes

I had no trouble with oem iso on lenovo and toshiba

Mateo

@JourneymanGeek aren't the digital river disks oem? or do they have manufacture specific ones

Journeyman Geek

No, they are retail

chaskes

the iso I got from digital river was oem. key was to match iso number with number on sticker (separate from product key)

Seth

3:13 AM

@Mateo HP is a bit... different.

but I'm surprised it worked too.

Mateo

@Seth yeah... that is for sure. I've had nothing but headaches with this hp(with windows).

I use all Ubuntu at home :)

@JourneymanGeek I've seen a 7 with the bios thing, and not a real key on the sticker, that seems to be rare though

Jasper Loy

In a way, Ubuntu Mate is the real Ubuntu that would be if not for Unity and Gnome 3, lol.

Who knows, Ubuntu Mate might rise to become the no 1 distro on distrowatch.com

It is not listed there yet though

Why Mint overtook Ubuntu was because of Mate, I believe.

Journeyman Geek

@Mateo: OEM installs use the bios thing but you can still use the sticker key

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