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Seth

12:03 AM

Hi FEi!

Hey @AmithKK. Haven't seen you around much either!

Amith KK

Hey @Seth. How's stuff on your end? :D

Seth

Busy, but good. Still pretty hot here, but I'm sure it doesn't compare to what you get :P

Roman Gelman

12:23 AM

Pretty much this happens: gyazo.com/5b4651819d487cc085401ce46128096b

Seth

There's an emacs proposal on Area 51 o_O

RPi Awesomeness

@Rinzwind Dang. Yeah, my parents don't think we need better internet than our crappy-as-balls 100Kb/s DSL

Seth

@RomanGelman yeah but that doesn't make any sense.. What would cause that?

And you said you can just drag the window out of the way? Weird.

Roman Gelman

I was thinking its a graphics card problem, I have a geforce gtx 770 with current drivers installed, and nvidia x server settings installed as well

Seth

well you could try other drivers.

Roman Gelman

12:26 AM

I suppose I could. What do you think would be a better choice, Software Centre drivers, or the drivers from the original site?

Journeyman Geek

@RPiAwesomeness no idea, You'll have to experiment.

RPi Awesomeness

Yeah....

Roman Gelman

Alright, I guess I will, I'll get back if anything changes

Seth

@RomanGelman I'd go with the software center ones first. Just make sure you write down which one you are currently using so that you can go back if the others don't work.

Journeyman Geek

check your display configuration

RPi Awesomeness

12:28 AM

@JourneymanGeek I think I'm going 750Ti. There's a pretty good chance that with the Yosemite release OS X will get Maxwell GPU support (Maxwell being 750's architecture)

Journeyman Geek

iirc I could do that on purpose on the KDE control module.

RPi Awesomeness

Plus, I would only use OS X for software testing.

Hooray tonymac!

Journeyman Geek

@RPiAwesomeness: If its just testing, older versions of OS X did fine on a VM

RPi Awesomeness

Hooray tonymac!

Journeyman Geek

Least the feline series did, and I think @hbdgaf got a california series working on vmware

RPi Awesomeness

12:29 AM

@JourneymanGeek Good idea! I'd forgot about VMs since my old PC couldn't handle it.

Journeyman Geek

0_0

I was running VMs on a core 2 duo with only a gig of ram

RPi Awesomeness

Huh...oh well

I had a Core 2 Duo + 1GB of RAM too...must've been worse quality because it lagged everything out :P

Amith KK

@Seth Bangalore climate is not at all bad.

RPi Awesomeness

Currently doing an explanation blog post about USB...I've learned stuff!

Also @Seth @JourneymanGeek What do you think of my chat theme? I took OliverSalzburg's dark chat theme and I've been tweaking it, fixing various issues...

Journeyman Geek

Looks nice

RPi Awesomeness

12:33 AM

...

The previous image he had for the background on the bottom bar was kinda....eh. Also, the username completion popup was black text on a black bg...fixed that too

Now I have to fix the new message flash color and the color of the user's messages.

Also, the upload dialog is ... messed up. Text is missing

Seth

@RPiAwesomeness I personally like the normal theme myself.

@AmithKK That's nice to know.

RPi Awesomeness

@Seth Yeah, it's not bad. However, I've always liked dark themes and figured I'd mess around with it for fun :)

Yup. anandtech.com/bench/product/1130?vs=1039

GTX 750Ti is only ~5 frames behind the 660 on plenty of things ... however, I think the 660 might be the same price right now...hmmm

I'll have to watch the prices of those two...

Jeepers! USB is more complicated than I thought!

Whaaaaaat

12:58 AM

Finally got my laptop back :D

@RPiAwesomeness Mhm.

RPi Awesomeness

@Whaaaaaat Nice

Whaaaaaat

@RPiAwesomeness Stupid GeekSquad can't clone drives.

Seth

I don't think I have ever heard of GeekSquad being any help anyway.

Whaaaaaat

@Seth They replaced my hard drive for free. That's pretty good.

@RPiAwesomeness You want Hackintosh help?

Seth

@Whaaaaaat Office Depot will replace the entire thing for free :P

Whaaaaaat

1:06 AM

@Seth If you got the computer from Office Depot. Also, I do not want a new computer. I wanted a new hard drive. (Stupid Windows locking itself down to only one set of hardware) (AND THEN THERE'S HACKINTOSH).

Seth

Nothing wrong with new hard drives, I was just sayin' ;P

Whaaaaaat

Did we get a new review queue empty message?

askubuntu.com/review/close/319444?filter-closereason=offtopic

MIIIINT

askubuntu.com/review/close/319406?filter-closereason=offtopic

askubuntu.com/review/close/319551?filter-closereason=offtopic

@Seth, can we nuke? mint

Seth

eww, I'll see what I can do about some of that.

Whaaaaaat

@Seth Thanks :D

Oh, April Fool's idea:

AskMint!

Seth

now that'd be funny.

Whaaaaaat

1:17 AM

Might be far, but make Ubuntu off-topic.

That could be deadly though.

and, @Seth, what do you think about my moderation election promise?

I vow to close any Linux Mint question the second I see it.

Seth

well, that sounds like something any mod would do ;)

Whaaaaaat

1:33 AM

but do they?

that was a lot of mint questions.

Let's please nuke this one now:

-1

Q: Grub didn't rewrite Windows 7 loader

I have installed Win7 and now I want to install Linux Mint 17 as the second OS. But after installing Linux Mint 17 grub never starts and Win7 starts automatically. What I need to do for installing grub?

Seth

@Whaaaaaat I'm not sure you know this, but moderators have a lot of other stuff to do besides hunt Mint questions down.

@Whaaaaaat got it.

Whaaaaaat

@Seth thanks :D

@Seth, what is our highest-upvoted non community wiki answer?

Seth

314

A: How to list all installed packages?

To get a list of packages installed locally do this in your terminal: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall To save that list to a text file called packages on your desktop do this in your terminal: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > ~/Desktop/packages (you don't need to run th...

courtesy: askubuntu.com/search?tab=votes&q=is%3aa%20wiki%3ano

Whaaaaaat

wow. Only 314?

Seth

yeah.

Whaaaaaat

1:41 AM

and the highest CW is 543, right?

Seth

Ooh, I have the 18th most upvoted answer :D

Whaaaaaat

we have voting problems

Seth

@Whaaaaaat yep.

@Whaaaaaat we actually aren't doing too bad, although more is almost always better.

Whaaaaaat

I don't vote up because my AI doesn't like calling people/things good.

But I don't vote down because my AI considers that to be too much of an expense.

Seth

then you aren't helping with the voting problem...

voting is one of the most important functions of the site, both up and down.

Whaaaaaat

1:45 AM

@Seth Nope. I know I'm not helping.

Seth

Anyway, my stats say we are slowly getting better at voting, but recently we've been going down close vote wise.

That isn't good.

Whaaaaaat

I am DEFINITELY helping with closevotes.

and btw, this is one of those "you are kidding me" tech problems:

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Q: Ubuntu keeps returning to default after shutdown

Hey guys I'm completely new to Ubuntu, I shut it down and when I got back on it, it had reset everything I had done including all my downloaded files back to default. Not exactly sure whats going on. Even from the terminal, my username that I chose during the installation doesn't appear, it is ub...

shutdown reset

@Seth, can you force review audits for users?

Seth

@Whaaaaaat no, that is something I cannot do.

@Whaaaaaat some people really aren't ready to be messing with these things yet, sadly.

Whaaaaaat

@Seth OK. You're not the one messing with me and my many audits.

Seth

They are totally random, so you can blame the system :)

Whaaaaaat

1:58 AM

blames system so hard that blood starts dripping out of ears

Whaaaaaat

2:09 AM

Ah yes, my clone. You are looking good.

Journeyman Geek

/me declares @Whaaaaaat to be a drama queen ;p

Whaaaaaat

(wrong window)

@JourneymanGeek /me declares @Whaaaaaat to be clinically insane.

RPi Awesomeness

3:05 AM

@Whaaaaaat /me seconds the motion

Journeyman Geek

xrandr is really cool.

In addition to manually letting me set resolutions, it also lets me flip a screen

RPi Awesomeness

Cool!

@JourneymanGeek I think I may have hit a sweet spot with my build. I posted it to /r/buildapc and all of the responses have been positive and the critiques minor!

Fancy new PC, here I COME!

Now...to decide which GTX 750Ti to go with...

Journeyman Geek

I tend to favour asus

RPi Awesomeness

I'd agree there, ASUS is a good brand. Wish the Mobo+RAM bundle I got had been an ASUS mobo...

However, the regular ASUS GTX 750Ti 2GB is the same price as an EVGA GTX 750Ti 2GB Superclocked.

And then there's the sneaky little GTX 660 sitting in the back of my head poking me...

Does 100 MHz make that big of a difference?

Journeyman Geek

lol

Well, I know for a fact that the 660 is a great card ;p

is the 660 cheaper?

RPi Awesomeness

3:14 AM

nope. More expensive than several of the GTX 750Ti options...it's on sale for about the same as a not on sale 750Ti

Journeyman Geek

Ahh

(Generally, the GPU one 'rung' down, and one generation older is comparable. I'd check benchmarks of course)

When I got it the 660 was the hotness for a mid priced build ;p

RPi Awesomeness

Erm...750Ti seems to be more powerful than the 660...not hugely...but still somewhat.

Yeah, it's a good card.

However, I think the Radeon R7s and R9s have taken over GTX's spot

@JourneymanGeek Is your 660 a straight-up 660, or is it a 660Ti?

Either way, 750Ti is better: anandtech.com/bench/product/1129?vs=1130

I prefer the cooling on the ASUS (dual top fans) to the EVGA (single fan, rear exhaust)...

I think the difference in speed (100MHz) really isn't that big of a deal, I'm not going to be doing Metro: Last Light on Ultra :)

@JourneymanGeek Is $30 off a good deal? 7% + $20 MIR...

Lucio

3:35 AM

@Braiam awesome.

thanks for that

Journeyman Geek

@RPiAwesomeness: straight up/OC

the 660 is more power efficient than the 660TI

RPi Awesomeness

@JourneymanGeek Straight up

Journeyman Geek

I'm keeping the option of picking up a second 660 cheap once its obsolete enough and going SLI ;p

RPi Awesomeness

@JourneymanGeek True, but the 750Ti is still pretty efficient (powered via PCIe only) and I don't care too much about efficiency right now...I'm still living at home :D

Journeyman Geek

yup

so am I ;p

RPi Awesomeness

3:39 AM

@JourneymanGeek Ah, nice :D

Journeyman Geek

though, the R9s are often TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS off RRP at my local reseller ;p

RPi Awesomeness

Yeah, that's the one thing w. the 750/750Ti...they don't SLI/cross bridge

Journeyman Geek

(but I'd probably want to upgrade my monitors when I do that)

RPi Awesomeness

@JourneymanGeek Holy crap...

Journeyman Geek

Maybe when I get a job, I'll add it to the three month list ;p

RPi Awesomeness

3:43 AM

lol

Yeah...this PC has been on my 1 year list

Now...do I get a WiFi PCIe card, or an HDD + USB dongle

This here be me build! pcpartpicker.com/user/RPiAwesomeness/saved/sZwmP6

Hooray, I has happies

Mouse I want: pcpartpicker.com/part/mad-catz-mouse-mcb4370900b2021

Mouse I could consider affording: pcpartpicker.com/part/cyborg-mouse-ccb4370300b2041

Mouse I might get: newegg.com/Product/…-na--na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Journeyman Geek

lol

RPi Awesomeness

And finally, a cheaper version of the above mouse: amazon.com/E-blue-Junior-1600dpi-Gaming-EMS109L/dp/…

Journeyman Geek

I actually have had something for ages that's gone in and out of the three month list

lol

want my advice?

Unless you are gaming hardcore, pick up a logitech desktop set

RPi Awesomeness

I technically have a mouse/keyboard...but, what's the fun in getting a brand spanking new PC and having a 90's keyboard and an okay but still not new mouse...

Journeyman Geek

they're cheap, and sturdy

then as you get cash, upgrade

RPi Awesomeness

3:54 AM

Yeah, so I've heard

Cherry MX switches?

Yeah, so I've heard

Journeyman Geek

(My secondary keyboard and mouse is logitech. 25 quid for a pair)

lol

RPi Awesomeness

That's kinda something I want...

Journeyman Geek

I'm waiting for our guest to comment on the keyboard

RPi Awesomeness

Yup. My Mouse is a logitech 350. amazing little bugger

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, I'm almost entirely cherry blues on my wired keyboard

RPi Awesomeness

3:55 AM

??

And the color cooresponds to clickyness...right?

Journeyman Geek

IMO logitechs are the best value for money, periphral wise

clickiness and feel

RPi Awesomeness

Yeah

They definitely are

Dream build for the future: Mini ITX w. i3 or Pentium G3258 in a BitFenix Prodigy Orange. Have the side laser-cut w. the Ubuntu logo and then have opaque plastic inserted into the cut & have custom LEDs that correspond to CPU activity.

Journeyman Geek

lol

ebay.com/itm/…

I want one of these

or something similar ;p

RPi Awesomeness

Maybe, if I get the G3258 and OC it I can get a liquid cooling system and get orange coolant... :D

@JourneymanGeek Nice. I definitely can't afford a monitor on this build. I mean, I could go cheap and get a ~$60/$70 one and be at about $600, but I don't want to go over $600...

Another thing I have to think about is portability...it's a full ATX mobo, so it's going to have to have a larger case. If it had been a mATX I would have considered getting the BitFenix Prodigy M...

No Time

4

A: How do I force "top" command to show processes greater than PID XXX

You can run top -o PID to sort by PID (or hit the < key several times while top is running to move the sort column to the right, until it's sorting by PID). You can filter PIDs interactively while top is running by hitting the o key and typing PID>1000 or whatever minimum value you want, followe...

Does this comment war seem appropriate?

Sorry I meant to link question/answer

The guy answering, is arguing, when 2 people are saying it doesn't work

Journeyman Geek

4:13 AM

@RPiAwesomeness lol. Yeah. My monitor is off my last semi build.

(The dumpster dell. 50 dollars for a HDD. 135 for a screen)

No Time

Y NO U USE TV? (And other annoying text)

Journeyman Geek

5:05 AM

@NoTime: considered that. I couldn't borrow a TV permanantly, and the one TV we have that has a VGA in (we have almost nothing with HDMI at all) is one of those giant plasma screens

Eliah Kagan

6:10 AM

@Whaaaaaat In that answer, you might want to change "You probably need to reinstall Ubuntu." to "You probably need to reboot Ubuntu." Sometimes reinstalling's best, but this seems one of those cases where it's unnecessary. (Lots of comments there and we'd chatted about that Q before, which is why I'm using chat. Feel free to reply in chat, comments, or not at all--whatever's convenient.)

Whaaaaaat

7:10 AM

@EliahKagan Fixed. Thanks for getting that

Journeyman Geek

@EliahKagan Aka. Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

0

Q: Make upstart log to /var/log/upstart/<service-name> directory

By default upstart logs to /var/log/upstart, and all the service logs are under the same directory. I want to have a directory under /var/log/upstart (say, /var/log/upstart/myservices where all my daemon logs are kept). Is this possible with upstart ? I didn't see any stanza/config to specify a ...

ubuntu logs upstart

Dan

8:45 AM

They should increase the rep requirement to review suggested edits in SO...

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

10:16 AM

0

Q: Disatvantages of Ubuntu installed inside the Win vs next to Win

are there any disadvantages of installing Ubuntu inside the Win using installator vs next to Win using bootable device? For example: My user account (on Win) contains diacritics which causes problems when installing Python modules using pip or setup.py.

linux ubuntu windows

xiaodongjie

11:53 AM

hi

Abhimanyu

12:27 PM

Why is the 12.04 tag so popular?

Oli

@Abhimanyu A lot of people have asked questions about 12.04

@Abhimanyu Why is stackoverflow such a popular tag on MSE?

Abhimanyu

Hehe sorry for such a childish question... it just intrigued me

Journeyman Geek

LTS?

Abhimanyu

@Oli: Uh hey Oli. I want to ask you something. I was reading your answer at Linux and Unix, and it had this line: "Can still get munched by Windows. Windows will ultimately do whatever Windows wants to do." I'm excited. Is Windows like sort of "powerful" or "superior" to Ubuntu? OS wars always fascinate me >.>

Journeyman Geek

So more people would be using it, longer.

@Abhimanyu: more like windows dosen't play nice with other OSes

it assumes its the only OS on a system, and will not chainload linux

Abhimanyu

12:36 PM

I see... Yeah that makes sense. "Chainload linux"? What's that?

Journeyman Geek

linux is more polite, or least the grub install scripts most people do is

Abhimanyu

Like load simultaneously or something?

Oli

@Abhimanyu No, I just meant it has a habit of plodding around destroying things on your disk that it doesn't understand. It doesn't understand that you might want to keep grub forever or that EXT is a partition, not free space it can repartition at will.

Abhimanyu

I see. That reminds of thumbs.db files that get created in my folders whenever dad opens his dreaded Windows... sigh

don.joey

can one already buy an ubuntu phone in europe?

Oli

12:55 PM

@don.joey The Meizu MX4 base phone isn't out yet so it'll be a while (I would have thought) before an Ubuntu variant is ready.

don.joey

@Oli tnx. Is there an ETA?

Oli

@don.joey Apparently the 20th for the base phone... Nothing I can see indicating a definite release for anything Ubuntu on it.

don.joey

@Oli ok thanks. If ever it is available and you remember, feel free to ping me.

fossfreedom

Some one from Meizu (I think) said that December is the definitive month - where in the month is anyones guess

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

2:03 PM

0

Q: Inaccessible Dedicated Server

I'm having some problems with networking on my dedicated server. I've recently ordered a Dedibox LT so I can provision some VMs via Ubuntu and vmbuilder. However I can't get past the stage of adding a bridge. After changing my /etc/network/interfaces file to the following: auto eth0 iface eth...

ubuntu kvm bridge

Mateo

3:05 PM

@fossfreedom something like that, the first article I saw just said a image would be available to flash for it in December.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

0

Q: EOL Policy Revisited: a case for letting Ubuntu questions be on-topic

I wonder whether it is time to re-address the question about the (currently enforced) policy of treating EOL releases as off-topic. It strikes me as not only highly unintuitive but ultimately detrimental (see argument below), and so I would like to argue for a change of policy. Current state of ...

discussion best-practice ubuntu-community

fossfreedom

o_o ... ^^^ controversial!

Mateo

hm, wish I kept a link, because now all I get are syndicated from the same source

terdon

3:26 PM

Dammit, I agree with that. I've never understood why EOL questions are off topic. By the way @mods, I just answered suggesting they post on U&L instead. When you see a (good, or at least not crap) EOL question, please shunt it over to us directly.

fossfreedom

@terdon happy to - if you see something you like - buzz us here or just flag for migration

terdon

@fossfreedom I do that already. I was just letting you know that if you see one that's fine apart from being EOL you can feel free to pass it over. Trying to disguise my laziness as openness :)

Mateo

3:48 PM

haha, If they weren't on-line how did they post here, and that is going to make any changes excruciating painful. Evey time someone tells me they aren't going to use their xp or old release computer online I laugh. The second you need to send an e-mail, or do basically anything (besides write notes to your self to transfer to usb drive) you are going to go online!

terdon

@Mateo Nevertheless, some people, many in fact, don't have regular internet access at home. They can be using their old machine there and then posting Qs from internet cafes.

Avinash Raj

5:25 PM

OMG, vlc failed to play .wmv videos.. :(

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

6:01 PM

0

Q: dual boot from two different harddrives, windows and lubuntu not working

I have a computer with two harddrives. I first installed my Windows 8.1 on my ssd taking up the whole drive. Then on my second 2TB I made 3 partitions. 1TB is dedicated to external storage, 500GB is decidcated to lubuntu, 2GB to swap space, and the rest is just free. So after I installed Windows,...

ubuntu boot windows dual-boot bootable

Ask Ubuntu Meta

6:39 PM

0

Q: Old question with old answer. How can I request an update on the topic?

Sometimes I find an old question on AskUbuntu with an old answer. Updates in software tend to change the way things are done, and I can't help but wonder if there is a newer solution to the same problem. I am tempted to post a new question, but that would surely raise a duplicate alert. What c...

discussion

rlemon

7:04 PM

> sublime folder context menu

gave me nothing on main, so here goes

how would I add 'open with sublime' option to the context menu for folders in Ubuntu 14.04.1 (out of the box unity)

Mateo

7:23 PM

hm...

I think you need a script in a certain folder, the folder moved recently, let me look

@rlemon ~/.local/share/nautilus/scripts/

rlemon

okay :) that is a start :P

this script you speak of.... :P

Mateo

10

A: How to open directory in Guake from Nautilus

Ok, so I found a shell script that will work and modified it to work with guake. To get it working follow these steps. Create a new empty document, Right click => Create New Document => Empty Document Name It Open in Guake or something similar Open it and paste the code listed below- Source 1 ...

rlemon

nice i'll check it out

Mateo

might be able to adapt this

rlemon

thanks

Mateo

7:27 PM

currently for guake, but I'm sure it could be changed with not much problem

hm, that is for getting the folder though...

rlemon

well to open from the command line is just subl /path/to/dir

so I should be able to alter that script

Mateo

may be as simple as using $f

Whaaaaaat

7:44 PM

o/

What did I miss?

@Oli what happened to all the bots?

Mateo

eol talk again, then trying to nautilus script to open file in sublime

Whaaaaaat

ah

Let's see how the mint tag is doing today

Mateo

oh, check this out @rlemon gist.github.com/xnt/2928209

Whaaaaaat

#MakeWindowsOpensource

@NathanOsman What happened to FlackBot?

hbdgaf

8:32 PM

@JourneymanGeek I got Mavericks working, but it required some... finagling... of VMware

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

11:49 PM

0

Q: Ec2 network bandwidth consumed by internal ip?

Its bothering me On iftop i can see ip-172---2.ec2.internal Connected to my ubuntu ec2 server for long long time ?? This address doesn't even resolves as its a ec2 internal ip address.. How can block it ?

ubuntu networking firewall amazon-ec2 bandwidth

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