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Not sure if this will help (sorry I am not reading all of these) :)
http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/search/result.jsp?cx=015429807939189511388%3Atklr6zzfo4g&cof=FORID%3A11%3BNB%3A1&ie=UTF-8&q=unix+linux+users&sa=Search

Andrew

I am just woundering

I would never get a miniPC

►

No Time

I am sure with the right distro you could make it fly!

Journeyman Geek

2:35 AM

@Andrew: Via hasn't made a new x86 CPU in 2 years

their graphics are kinda badly supported on anything

Andrew

@JourneymanGeek than why do they still exists?

Journeyman Geek

@Andrew: they also make chipsets, arm processors, and a few other things

Andrew

Got you

Journeyman Geek

their x86 licence may have expired. We arn't sure. They, well.. centaur is up to something tho

Andrew

@JourneymanGeek Have you ever had a VIA CUP on a desktop pc?

Journeyman Geek

2:37 AM

nope

actually, my CPU history has been almost all intel

Andrew

I think owning a parten on that should be illagle

Journeyman Geek

other than that mips, SGI box I rescued from a university ;p

Andrew

Mips? SGI box? what does that mean

Journeyman Geek

I have one of these babies

Andrew

that look amazing

Journeyman Geek

2:39 AM

Haven't really booted it up

Andrew

what specs does it have?

Journeyman Geek

weighs about 20kg

Andrew

Wow have old is it?

Journeyman Geek

175mhz R100SE en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R10000 and 256 mb of ram.

@Andrew: Probably something over 15 years old I think

I got it about 8 years ago

Andrew

Than it is trash... I thought it was a power house

@JourneymanGeek Name me five reason why AMD is better than Intel for CPUs.

Journeyman Geek

2:43 AM

@Andrew: I can't ;p

Andrew

@JourneymanGeek Can you name me five reason why Intel is better than AMD for CPUs?

Journeyman Geek

I could.

Andrew

@JourneymanGeek Than that make you a Intel fanboy.

@JourneymanGeek Why are you a Intel Fanboy?

Journeyman Geek

Cause generally when I am building a system, intel tends to make a better choice ;p

With my last box, if I had built it 6 months earlier, I'd have gone for AMD

With intel, this time, I had lower power use, better performance, quicksync, more motherboard options and native USB 3 in my price range

Andrew

Do you line AMD or Nvida better?

Journeyman Geek

2:49 AM

When i got it, nvidia. I'd SERIOUSLY consider a high end AMD card now tho

Andrew

So what ones do you like better

Journeyman Geek

I think its worth asking yourself if you want phy-x or mantle more

AMD basically has much better options at the same price points

at the moment

Andrew

I think its is worth asking yourself if you want Linux or Windows more

Journeyman Geek

Nvidia has some features that are more compelling, and better, more reliable support

Andrew

Becuase Nvidia has better Linux support

But Intel has the best

Journeyman Geek

2:52 AM

If I was running linux primarily, I'd just use intel onboard graphics ;p

Andrew

Nice luck gaming at 4k

@JourneymanGeek take a look

Journeyman Geek

I don't game on linux

I get work done on linux ;p

Andrew

I do

kinda

Journeyman Geek

(or use a windows system, and use steam ;p)

Andrew

I am not a true gamer

We have steam

Is Mantel a OpenGL extension?

or is difference from DirectX and OpenGL all together.

Alvar

3:01 AM

this is interesting! askubuntu.com/questions/518992/…

Seth

3:13 AM

Ineed.

Andrew

@Seth good?

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A: How to create a bootable USB with multiple ISO images in it

Knowing what software to get. First you will need a partition editor like GParted, or KDE Partition Manager. See this list of partition editors for Linux. I recommand if you use a GTK base desktop sush as Gnome, Unity, or LXDE. Use Gparted. If you use a QT base desktop like KDE or LXQT than ...

Alvar

3:42 AM

@Seth I think it would only install the packages that are missing since ubuntu-desktop is a meta package. And the only package that would be removed/reinstalled is ubuntu-desktop. But not sure either.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

4:21 AM

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Q: Switching between two ISP

I am managing my college's server. We have two Internet Service Providers- BSNL(1 GBPS) and Reliance(75 MBPS).when BSNL line is slow than Reliance it should automatically switch from BSNL to Reliance and vice versa. For this I want a bash script.

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Q: What should we do about XBMC's new name?

XBMC will be called kodi in newer versions, what should we do about it? People will still refer it to XBMC for several years to come, but some users will use the new name kodi. I suggest that we make a new tag for kodi and update the current tag for xbmc that the new version uses kodi as name. A...

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Ionică Bizău

5:13 AM

@Mateo I will try Ubuntu Studio again... Maybe it does the trick. Thanks!

Rinzwind

7:54 AM

close please

HA @OLI :=D

I see what you did there :=D

if anyone sees Luis... it's his B-day :=D

fossfreedom

8:10 AM

@Rinzwind you'll need to sing happy birthday ... promise - we'll all join in :)

Rinzwind

@fossfreedom I can't speak :=)

how's that for avoiding singing? >:-D

fossfreedom

I'm sure you'll get a lot of smiles in the office if you do

Rinzwind

nobody here >:D just me

fossfreedom

even better - just the security cameras to capture your attempts - remember to upload to youtube :)

Takkat

@Rinzwind and me lurking from my desk at the office... Hi all

fossfreedom

8:15 AM

morning @Takkat

Rinzwind

hey Takkat

Takkat

<-- feels better now... at least it's not my work only surrounding me :)

Rinzwind

8:35 AM

@oli setxkbmap -layout uk resets keyboard to uk ;)

oli is ignoring me :(

Oli

gb

Rinzwind

:=)

did it work? >:D

Oli

It did

Rinzwind

8:50 AM

so you want me to mark your q as a dupe or answer it? :D

Oli

muru just posted something that's works well too. I'll alter the question to make it a little less realistic but worthy of that answer.

Rinzwind

cooll

Oli

I do appreciate the help though, even if I can't show it with rep here.

Journeyman Geek

Oli!

stackexchange.com/users/4580345/user330266?tab=accounts <-- Under the table flag ;p

(its maidenhead recovery, I blew them up on SU)

Rinzwind

@Oli I am not that interested in rep :=D I got a comfy gap between me and Luis so I am fine :D

Journeyman Geek

8:59 AM

;p

Rinzwind

:D

@ThomasW. gratz on getting message 12345678 :D

bored :*

Journeyman Geek

;p

blah, tired

I need to open up and rebuild something tho ;p

muru

9:44 AM

anyone know what's going to happen to upstart and when systemd will hit Ubuntu? Any mailing list discussions or something like that?

fossfreedom

approx 15.10 @muru - wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd

upstart will continue in 14.04 since its a LTS

Oli

@fossfreedom Wow, that long? By that time systemd will probably ship its own kernel.

They've already recently talked about trying to unify and replace all the downstream package managers.

fossfreedom

ouch :)

hmm - so they are going to force what now? yum - dnf ?

Oli

This was the post: 0pointer.net/blog/…

Frankly most of this stuff is way over my head. I've practically only just learnt how the last generation of Linux distribution have been held together. Now udev+systemd+brtfs seem to be wildly co-dependant and as soon as X stops being a thing, I'm not going to have a bloody clue what's going on.

muru

Thanks, @fossfreedom. 15.10 is indeed quite far away.

I use systemd daily on Arch Linux, and in practice the only tool that comes into use is journalctl. So ETA for journald is what really interests me.

Rinzwind

9:58 AM

@muru there was also a discussion about providing an upstart->systemd conversion tool

fossfreedom

hmm - systemd was supposed to be just an init system. Now they want to take over package management? what next - a unified desktop?

muru

@Rinzwind thanks, I'll search for that.

Maybe systemd will be the thing that makes Linux like OSX. :P

integration with GNOME - check

package manager - check

claws in every system aspect - check

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Files are opened by wrong applications if opened from a number of programs

History: I had problems with mime associations under Firefox. Firefox opened downloaded files with wrong programs. I deleted ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list and now it works. But by some time I noticed that the problem is transferred to other programs. For example, cbr files are opened ...

ubuntu mime-types

Rinzwind

10:17 AM

Since systemd is such a controversy we should rename it. Renaming always solves all of the problems.

Oli

And it's not worth renaming unless it causes more conflict. Let's call it Unity.

Rinzwind

:D

fossfreedom

@muru typo - that should read 15.04. However, given the focus on touch stuff at the moment, dont hold your breath.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

10:48 AM

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Q: Wrong mount point for internal SSD

I am having a problem with mounting an internal SSD. For some reason The mounting point is chosen as /media/user/Data instead of, as specified in /etc/fstab, /mnt/Data. The according line in /etc/fstab goes as follows: UUID="064ced5e-19c1-43d1-876f-3de0c115b65e" /mnt/Data ext4 users...

ubuntu mount fstab ssd

reversiblean

11:09 AM

Can we make Arch to look as cool as Ubuntu with Compiz, Full-screen windows, menus, effects etc? Most of the desktop environments I've seen on web doesn't look as polished as Ubuntu does.

Journeyman Geek

11:28 AM

sure, just install all the same stuff ;p

muru

@reversiblean all three of my setups (Arch, 14.04, jessie) look the same (version differences aside). Only plymouth isn't set up on jessie and Arch

reversiblean

Great. I'll definitely try then.

Btw I can't get plymouth to work properly even in Ubuntu.

fossfreedom

@reversiblean did you try using the framebuffer trick? askubuntu.com/questions/79953/why-does-plymouth-start-so-late

reversiblean

Yup I could get it work if I set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX in grub configs. But it loads vesafb driver which cause random freezes on my system.

I think it conflicts with my nvidia proprietary driver.

muru

11:50 AM

Ah.. the joys of proprietary drivers.

Oh damn, I should have said I use Gnome Shell and not Unity.

Unity is available in the AUR, but I have never tried it,

fossfreedom

@muru I have - and yes it lacks the "polish" of ubuntu because of the lack of patches in the gnome software

muru

Ah. The polish of vanilla gnome is enough for me. :)

Seriously though, if using anything that's close to Gnome as the gnome devs see it, one has to be close to upstream.

and on Ubuntu, that's just asking for a world of pain.

fossfreedom

differing visions - each to their own

muru

I sincerely wish gnome devs would take their differing visions and go away. :(

reversiblean

Is 'blacklist vesafb' commented out in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf by default?

muru

12:09 PM

yes, i think

i don't have any drivers installed and that's how it is in my system

also in a vm i installed yesterday

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

2:00 PM

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Q: Simple QoS configuration with PRIO Qdisc is not working

Im using Ubuntu 12.10 OS and i want to prioritize ICMP traffic over any other traffic in the egress queue of eth0 interface (as it is my default route to internet). By default this is the qdisc configured for eth0: $ tc qdisc qdisc pfifo_fast 0: dev eth0 root refcnt 2 bands 3 priomap 1 2 2 2 1...

ubuntu tc qos icmp

Seth

@Oli that seems terribly complicated just for a normal user...

Rinzwind

2:45 PM

homework topic? askubuntu.com/questions/519175/…

Seth

looks ok to me.

don.joey

3:58 PM

I think this deserves to be mentioned on chat: meta.askubuntu.com/questions/11894/supercharge-roomba-again?noredirect=1#comment‌20643_11894

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Q: uploaded file via filezilla to proftp server(on ubuntu 14.04 lts) but reported 550 error

uploaded file via filezilla to proftp server(on ubuntu 14.04 lts) but reported 550 error 550 download.html: Permission denied Error: Critical file transfer error I try to set the directory to chmod 777 but error is same ftp for download is OK your comment welcome

linux ubuntu ftp proftpd

Seth

4:39 PM

@don.joey Since you're here, what exactly do you fail to understand in that post?

"not closing old questions" wasn't even mentioned.

don.joey

well you say that I misunderstand the post, tell me how

Seth

Causing drama about it was, but nothing about "don't do it".

don.joey

? not sure I understand

Seth

"not closing old questions" wasn't even mentioned. Causing drama about closing old questions was, but nothing about "don't do it".

better?

don.joey

OK

I never saw Luis' first post

I never commented on it

I only saw Oli's post... and saw you complaining about me not understanding

Seth

4:43 PM

give me a minute, had to step away.

don.joey

I am genuinely trying to think along about how the review system can be made better.

Seth

ok, so, as you probably noticed, Luis spent an entire day going through some 800+ questions in the close queue to bring it to zero.

as he did that he noticed a large amount of questions that fit two criteria: a) questions being closed as EOL even though they had been answered a long time ago and b) questions being closed as "unclear" (and sometimes other reasons) but no one bothered to leave a comment, either explaining what was wrong or why this question didn't belong here.

He wrote a meta post about his frustrations with this, but people took it wrongly to me "Don't close old questions" and started a huge hubbub.

(it had nothing to do with "not closing old questions" except for the aforementioned EOL case)

That ended up getting deleted because it dissolved into nonsense, as Oli said.

don.joey

ok

Seth

So Oli rewrote it into what the current post is.

The main points are this:

We have 3 to 5k questions coming in every month that need reviewer attention.

and a review queue that never stops growing out of control.

Reviewers need to be extra thoughtful of how they use their votes, because we only have a finite amount of reviewer time.

Avinash Raj

@souravc Hi ... How r u?

don.joey

4:56 PM

ok

Seth

it was mentioned that our focus is better spent on the 3/5k new questions coming in so that we don't get this huge backlog of old, unanswered questions.

but no one ever said closing old questions was bad or wrong.

don.joey

where did I say that closing old questions was wrong?

Alvar

haha LOL

Seth

Basically, when you cast a close vote on something, try to make sure you make it as easy as possible for reviewers to pass through review. Unclear? Leave a comment explaining why (and hopefully what can be done to fix it). Too broad? Leave a comment explaining how the OP can narrow it down, or linking to the Ubuntu forums or discourse where they can ask their broad question, etc.

don.joey

or where did I say that this is what Oli said?

Alvar

4:59 PM

Oli says a lot of things, explain!

Seth

@don.joey I.. don't think I ever said you said that.

But your answer's focus is on that.

Avinash Raj

I should got a dupehammer within 3 or 4 days...

Seth

> In short, closing a question actually gives it a lot more attention than one wants to give it.

Ignoring old questions that should be closed is not going to help it and goes against the gut feeling of 'wanting to do things correctly' and 'not leaving a mess behind'.

Alvar

dupehammer?!

Avinash Raj

yep.

Alvar

5:00 PM

?

Seth

I have to go @don.joey. It's getting crowded in here. How about I make a new room and you can post your concerns there and I will answer them when I get back?

don.joey

@Seth No my answer, if you'd understand it, it about how the system as a whole does not work. The matter of closing old questions is only an example

Avinash Raj

@Alvar

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Q: Increase close vote weight for gold tag badge holders

In order to increase the efficiency with which poor quality questions are closed, it could make sense to have weighted close votes for a small subset of qualified users. A very good way to measure the qualified users would be to leverage the tag badges. However, it needs to be rationally limite...

feature-request status-review vote-to-close tag-badges dupehammer

don.joey

OK @Seth don't worry about it, I think in real life we'd have a beer together and thinks would be OK, but on the internet we do seem to have a hard time understanding each other. I personally found it disrespectful how you jumped in to claim time and again people are not understanding. Now, we've talked about it. Case closed.

Alvar

@AvinashRaj OMG this means that I would almost consider to do close vote queue again. But it's SOOOOOOOO boring!

Hello @Rinzwind :)

don.joey

5:03 PM

@Seth No offense meant and no offense taken

alvar <3

<3

HI Rinz...

two grown up men <3ing each other, yikes :D

Alvar

@don.joey I do it all the time.

Seth

5:05 PM

@don.joey FWIW my comment on Braiam's post wasn't about you.. I didn't even have you in mind when I wrote it.

Alvar

@don.joey RE YOU AFRAID OF THE <3 ?!?!?! OMG!

Avinash Raj

What is <3?

smiley which means...

don.joey

I <3 u = I heart you = I love you...

Seth

I think I understand your answer, I don't really agree with most of it, but I understand it. My frustration stemmed from the constant shifting of the topic to the old unanswered questions, which I don't think it was really about.

jokerdino

love

Seth

5:06 PM

Anyway, case closed.

don.joey

@Seth Ok. Thanks for talking it through together.

Seth

np :)

Alvar

MORE LOVE FOR THE PEOPLE!

don.joey

@Seth best of luck mate, enjoy your day

Seth

Are you.. okay @Alvar? ;P

Alvar

5:10 PM

@Seth Trolling over 9000 achieved. I just have a good sense of humor ;)

Seth

hehe

Alvar

the internet is serious business, no jokes allowed.

@AvinashRaj when do you get this hammer?

Avinash Raj

within 3 or 4 days.

In SO for regex tag.

Alvar

is it enabled on AU?

Avinash Raj

yep.

In all the sites.

Alvar

5:16 PM

but I didn't really get how you get the close hammer

is it only for a specific tag or is it overall?

Avinash Raj

You could close the questions immediately in which you a tag gold bage for.

Seth

You get it in tags where you have a gold tag badge.

askubuntu.com/help/badges?tab=tags&filter=gold

Alvar

@Seth then I will never get it :(

Avinash Raj

2 mins ago, by Avinash Raj

In SO for regex tag.

Alvar

wow I have 7 famous questions, cool!

@Seth then it's a bit of a waste, since I would guess at least one of those users will be a moderator anyway... if not both. which makes it kinda pointless

oooh 13th place of most reviews on suggested edits of all time woop woop

Seth

5:28 PM

@Alvar check Stack Overflow ;)

the feature was made with SO in mind.

Alvar

@Seth I know there it makes sense, but here no :P

@Seth yes because our queue is so little.

Seth

@Alvar no point in having it disabled though, right ;p

Alvar

@Seth not like anyone will ever get a gold badge for a tag that isn't a mod anyway

Mateo

any one hear about this, windows guest vm's on openstack - zdnet.com/…

intresting part to quote "It[Microsoft] also certified the full platform, endorsing Ubuntu's ability to run Windows guests stably.

Avinash Raj

@Seth exactly...

Seth

5:38 PM

@Alvar Radu got one. It's about answering questions, nothing to do with mods.

Alvar

@Seth I just meant that most users that here that have the most reputation are mods, yes I know it isn't always like this, but still...

Seth

@Alvar askubuntu.com/users?tab=Reputation&filter=all ;)

It isn't impossible, although it is hard.

Alvar

@Seth it's almost easier to become a mod instead! ;)

@Seth for some reason I keep mixing up you and jrg :(

jokerdino

woah

Alvar

owah!

Seth

5:43 PM

@Alvar lol

Alvar

I know it's weird...

Whaaaaaat

what did I miss?

Rinzwind

@don.joey is this good enough of did I make lots of mistakes?

0

Q: What is the Ubuntu os loader and where does it reside?

I am studying for a class on system engineering and in one material we are told that Ubuntu uses the os loader to load the bootloader GRUB. My question is what is the Ubuntu os loader and where does it reside?

boot grub2 bootloader bios

Whaaaaaat

Guys? Is this off-topic?

0

Q: What license are the Ubuntu wallpapers distributed under?

I haven't found the licensing data for the Forever by Shady S wallpaper, which would be very helpful as I am interested in uploading it to a Wiki, hence a CC-BY-SA license would be desirable.

wallpaper license

Rinzwind

@Whaaaaaat dont think so

hbdgaf

5:46 PM

@Seth didn't izx get banned?

Whaaaaaat

@Rinzwind ... I don't like Jorge. He edited it to be on-topic.

4

Rinzwind

@Whaaaaaat lol

Seth

@Whaaaaaat That is the correct thing to do ;)

Rinzwind

@hbdgaf we are not allowed to discuss that :=D

@Whaaaaaat so let's see how long it takes for him to notice >:D

hbdgaf

@Rinzwind oh... nevermind.

Seth

5:48 PM

@hbdgaf not that I am aware of. He just kinda.. ceased to exist :/

Rinzwind

@hbdgaf but the answer should be a 2 letter word

Whaaaaaat

@Rinzwind Notice what?

hbdgaf

@Seth cool. i just remember him being kind of neat/nice and really helping out during site-cleanup. didn't know if maybe he was gaming site cleanup a little too hard or something. anyway.

Rinzwind

@Whaaaaaat see the starred messages >:D

Whaaaaaat

AH :D

I like my close votes, dammit.

Rinzwind

5:50 PM

@hbdgaf heck he still gets more rep than 50% of the active users _o-

hbdgaf

@Rinzwind yeah, he hammered out a lot at the start

Whaaaaaat

I wants more rep.