Ask Ubuntu General Room

Videonauth

12:15 AM

i would go on ans simply make bash scripts for doing that

Nathan Osman

12:34 AM

@Seth no, unfortunately, it's just one big app.

I'm thinking of writing a framework in Go though.

Seth

hmm.

but is it modularized enough I can strip everything but 1 or 2 modules out?

@NathanOsman --^

Zacharee1

12:52 AM

I can't figure out if English isn't their first language or they just don't know how to ask a question: askubuntu.com/questions/776616/security-what-me-worry

or both

Seth

or all 3.

Zacharee1

o_O

deep man

:P

Seth

;P

wait, did Jono stop working on XPRISE already? :/

Apparently he was working at Github until very recently.

Nathan Osman

@Seth well... it's full of quite a few hacks.

So you could but it's pretty complex.

Seth

I just want a bot that can do timezone conversions for me and keep track of who is in what timezone :P

Sounds like something I wouldn't want to use JS for anyway.. lol

Nathan Osman

12:58 AM

You could write a UserScript.

Seth

true.

Zacharee1

1:12 AM

fanshy

Seth

"be real, be sober". That's a new tagline.

Zacharee1

?

Mateo

sweet 4 reviews already

TheXed

@Seth the "be sober" portion should be optional?

@Mateo what is that for?

Mateo

a twitter webapp

TheXed

1:20 AM

can I see?

Mateo

it made sure to link to the new site

uappexplorer.com/app/twitter-web.mateo-salta

TheXed

Oh wait I can't install it...

Mateo

for ubuntu phone/tablet ;)

TheXed

So I have noticed.

Seth

@Mateo awesome!

TheXed

1:22 AM

@Mateo it looks cool...

Mateo

well, that is mostly the work of twitter, and the webapp container is the work of orga, so I just made sure they worked together ;) opensource is awesome!

TheXed

I see...

this looks like a good way to brick your phone:

devices.ubports.com/#/op2

Mateo

here is the link for the webapp container he made - ograblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/22/… - very cool way to make a webapp for the ubuntu phone

Zacharee1

2:03 AM

Barack Obama Singing No by Meghan Trainor

►

Seth

2:29 AM

that's perfect.

Especially considering that Obama is a very authoritarian president.

and that channel is epic.

Barack Obama Singing Hotline Bling by Drake

►

xD

you gotta see that

they overlaid Drake's face with Obama's xD

Zacharee1

2:59 AM

@Seth Authoritarian?

Seth

eh, maybe the wrong word. But he gets what he wants.

so I installed a -doc package.. but how do I read the docs now?

Severus Tux

3:39 AM

Hello everyone :-)

Seth

hi

Severus Tux

:-) , I am a bit confused after reading a new Question. he says he can play videos and songs as one user but for another user : missing plugins . Can this really happen ?? !

Zacharee1

Apparently

RobotHumans

@Seth Oh, dbus. Yes, I used it a bit. - Was @ByteCommander having trouble with something?

Seth

@RobotHumans not directly, but there is a possibility of this happening again meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1568/… and app indicators and dbus were two proposed topics. I have no idea if you would be potentially interested in helping with that or not.

But I figured asking couldn't hurt. (still very very early planning stages, it was kinda an accident the topic dropped at all)

Edity

3:53 AM

hi

RobotHumans

Oh. Indicators and Dbus are certainly good topics, but I wouldn't consider myself "pro" at it to the point of a classroom. If someone came up with a question list, or a how do i X ahead of time, I might be able to chip in on that.

O_O

@RobotHumans Okay!

I have a emergency

I'm kinda in the same boat. I've used both (although probably a bit less than you have) but don't feel adequate for a class..

Edity

3:56 AM

I installed ubuntu 16.?? with a AMD graphics

Someone told me it's not a good idea

RobotHumans

Well... I mean, if you fumble around with it until it works - you're probably a step farther ahead than the people in attendance... but you could also be teaching bad habits or half truths.

What should i do??

@Edity nope

?

yes, its not a good idea

Seth

3:57 AM

well if it works, great.

Edity

my graphics fumble sometimes

Seth

If it doesn't work, go back to 14.04 or install something lighter on the graphics side like ubuntu MATE or xubuntu.

Edity

oh

ok

Seth

@RobotHumans my thoughts exactly.

Edity

We should launch another Classroom session???

Seth

3:57 AM

@Edity AMD is building new drivers, but they haven't come out for 16.04 yet.

Edity

ok

RobotHumans

Since we have a lot of different languages here from time to time, I thought about half of the regulars would find this funny.

2

Edity

whats mate or xubuntu?

Seth

@RobotHumans oh that's amazing xD

thanks for the share

@Edity xubuntu.org, ubuntu-mate.org

and just so you're not like me and mispronounce them for ages they are pronounced: "may-tay" and "zoo-buntu".

Edity

what should I use

Seth

4:00 AM

whichever you like best.

Google some screenshots.

They are both very customizable though.

Edity

ok

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Seth

ubuntu REALLY needs a new api for indicators.

Edity

y?

Seth

I want to make one with just text but nope..

and can I put it where I want? nope..

@Edity I guess xubuntu kinda looks like a mac.

Edity

Ubuntu MATE pun: MATE, get ubuntu!

Seth

4:02 AM

except that it's pronounced "may-tay" :P

RobotHumans

@Seth You can sort of do both of those, but it involves cheating or adding a category for the indicator to try and get yours sorted closer to where you want it.

Seth

@RobotHumans I want mine right next to indicator-datetime :/

How would I manage without an image though?

RobotHumans

You turn your text into an image on the fly with pil

So, cheating

Edity

MATE pronounce pun: Arr, matey launch the cannons!

Seth

@Edity some good videos that describe how they look: youtube.com/watch?v=9hCXwmKg4VU, youtube.com/watch?v=wLNqn2wjGms

Edity

4:05 AM

my internet is under maintenance @Seth i'l look at it later so i don't create too much bandwith.

Seth

ok

RobotHumans

Simple answer, if you like composited effects, you want Xubuntu. If you want it to be tighter on resource consumption and still have a usable GUI that feels a little like older Win/Mac/Gnome2 - you want Mate

Seth

@RobotHumans that would work. is pil a library or something?

Edity

o

RobotHumans

@Seth python-pillow.org

Edity

4:06 AM

@Seth I want a Ubuntu Classroom session ;_;

lol

Seth

@Edity patience ;)

@RobotHumans I'll check it out!

Edity

next session date?:

Seth

no date yet.

Edity

oh

I like to eat toffee

as a ubuntu flavor XD

remix os?

(hmm works fine --^)

RobotHumans

@Seth The answer is yes, it's a python image manipulation library. It would make it so you don't depend on qt or gtk directly, so a better idea when choosing a dependency than using Qt pixmap classes or gtk rendering a font to an image in my opinion. The link to the docs is on their landing page in the link above

Edity

4:11 AM

Android x86 :D

if you install it using windows, your'e gonna have a bad time

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Seth

@RobotHumans yeah, avoiding a hard dependency on gtk or qt would be nice.

although I guess gtk does come preinstalled.

Edity

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RobotHumans

@Seth on mainline yes, but what if someone wants to use indicators on a qt based distro? you could have a dangling depend on some obscure gtk multimedia package.

Seth

@RobotHumans that's true.

Edity

O_O

Seth

4:15 AM

nothing worse than installing tons of stuff from another stack.

Edity

almost seems like a Classroom session

RobotHumans

@Edity yes, but in a classroom session, someone would say "but appindicator is a subset of Gtk/depends on Gtk so there" and not accept how split up the dependencies are inside parts of gtk or qt.

Edity

o

I got a new washing machine

lol

\

Nathan Osman

@Seth PIL is an imaging library for Python.

But it has been abandoned and work has resumed with Pillow, which is drop-in compatible.

Edity

O_0

RobotHumans

4:21 AM

@NathanOsman that. The link I dropped was to pillow

Nathan Osman

Sorry, I'm just reading through the transcript :P

Edity

kubuntu 16.04 ???

Severus Tux

Oh.. man I think Ours is the only alive chatroom. I went to U&L gen room to get some help. last message 18 hours ago

RobotHumans

@Edity please stop with the repetitive expressions dropping. it's just noise if you do it all the time.

Nathan Osman

Yeah, this is one of the busier ones.

Edity

4:23 AM

ok

Nathan Osman

@Edity see, everyone is annoyed by those messages. Please refrain.

You have been warned before about this.

ok

Thank you.

I gtg anyways

I am aware its ask ubuntu but I could use some help. I am having a little trouble installing Cent OS 7. Its says : Installation source : Error Setting up base repository. Anybody faced similar problems??

Nathan Osman

4:25 AM

Don't worry, we welcome questions about pretty much anything :D

RobotHumans

^^ This is true.

Nathan Osman

Unfortunately, I don't know if anyone here uses CentOS.

Zacharee1

In chat

Severus Tux

:D

Nathan Osman

My only experience is with Debian/Ubuntu and Arch.

Severus Tux

4:26 AM

:( cl-netbox uses, but he is not here...

Zacharee1

i still want to get Fedora running

RobotHumans

@SeverusTux Nope. I only had problems with CentOS, because I wanted newer packages. Try getting the whole dependency tree for Asterisk latest with all codecs to build on CentOS 5 years ago. You'll contemplate throwing the computer out the window.

Severus Tux

!!.,I am trying coz I just wanted to get familiar with non-debain linux.

RobotHumans

I'ld start with Fedora if I were going to start with an RPM based distro. It has a lot more polish than CentOS and has more recent packages.

Nathan Osman

I managed to learn enough about RPM to create packaging for NitroShare but now I've forgotten all of it :D

RobotHumans

4:29 AM

@NathanOsman Why didn't you just submit to the opensuse build system?

Nathan Osman

I don't even know what that is...

(See, I know nothing about Redhat/Fedora/etc.)

RobotHumans

@NathanOsman build.opensuse.org

Seth

it's awesome

Nathan Osman

How does it work?

RobotHumans

^^ it's not for Fedora. It's a build system that basically says "Your linux package now works EVERYWHERE"

Seth

4:31 AM

or that's not quite what I was thinking it was.

Zacharee1

I'm panicking right now. This is my sec sleepless night in a row. I have preparation for an oral exam Wednesday, something on Tuesday and I can't sleep.

Nathan Osman

Use one of those white noise generators.

I was surprised by their effectiveness.

Zacharee1

I sure the local Giant is open now, at 12:34 :/

Nathan Osman

Also, do 40 push-ups. That helps.

Zacharee1

Exercise makes it worse

RobotHumans

4:35 AM

I have the next two days off, and a possible interview for a promotion in the coming weeks. So, I'm stress free.

I just put in my headphones and turn on metal. It helps me sleep *seriously - not a joke*.

Zacharee1

O_o

@SmokeDetector I could use that

Seth

@Zacharee1 find an app

also, magnesium is necessary for your body to sleep (or something like that). Try a supplement. (won't help now unfortunately)

RobotHumans

Another sleep aid that doesn't leave you in a stupor the next day is Melatonin. People that work swings or overnights for extended periods tend to stop producing it. They sell it in a handy bottled form.

Zacharee1

I already take melatonin :(

RobotHumans

Yeah. It doesn't make me sleepy. Just able to sleep when I can't.

Edity

5:21 AM

yay

Nathan Osman

amazon.ca/Raspberry-Pi-Model-A-256MB/dp/B00PEX05TO

@RPiAwesomeness want a model A+ Pi? That will be $7,046.55. ---^

(Please tell me that's a typo...)

And the camera is over $200...

RobotHumans

I'm convinced that some Amazon items are simply money laundering or bot fishing.

Nathan Osman

Hmm, that sounds plausible.

Edity

7:02 AM

256MB ram?!?

up it to 1GB ram!

hey @Mitch

Mitch

7:41 AM

@Edity Hello

Ask Ubuntu Meta

9:06 AM

0

Q: Any mobile app for Ask Ubuntu?

I often find myself trying to Ask Ubuntu for advice or offer help but all i have with me is my smartphone. Is there any mobile app for Ask Ubuntu? Or is it going to be one? With Ubuntu coming to phones and tablets, i believe mobile users deserves fair treatment and help as good as PC people.

discussion

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

9:33 AM

0

Q: Uninstall wrodpress

I am still at the beginning and just wondering how to uninstall totally WordPress and then reinstall it. i installed first time from this tutorial https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-14-04

linux ubuntu

Journeyman Geek

._.

Sunmi

9:53 AM

hello

Videonauth

10:06 AM

hello :)

o/ @terdon

mhmmmmmm what to do with such an edit proposal ? askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/568653

reject

ok

10:37 AM

@Videonauth The mods fix the serial upvoting problem or are you getting serial downvoted now?

Videonauth

the system fixed the upvotes

Henry WH Hack

Ah good

WE LOVE YOU MODS! :)

Videonauth

@HenryWHHack that does the SE system automatically

Henry WH Hack

@Videonauth Okay but we still love the mods btw who was the serial voter?

Videonauth

10:42 AM

i will never know

Henry WH Hack

10:52 AM

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Videonauth

I wont make assumptions, it can have been anyone

Journeyman Geek

@Videonauth those are usually hard to tell

the system is much better than that than we are

Videonauth

yep

but i was directly knowing yesterday that im gonna loose the points all the upvotes happened within a minute

posted them even in chat here chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/29848760#29848760

Henry WH Hack

If the guy came to the chats and said "I did it" what will happen to him/her?

Journeyman Geek

Aside from being soundly mocked?

Henry WH Hack

10:58 AM

Yes

go on

Journeyman Geek

maybe pelted with somewhat mouldy fruit?

tarred and feathered?

Disemvoweled?

Videonauth

revoked his rights to carry a towel ?

Journeyman Geek

Subjected to the terrible cruelties of the seraglio?

Henry WH Hack

The next thing I say don't believe it okay.

Journeyman Geek

Then don't say it.

Videonauth

11:00 AM

at least not here

Henry WH Hack

I did it. :D

Journeyman Geek

You should let a mod know

Videonauth

@JourneymanGeek arn't you a mod ?

Henry WH Hack

I said don't believe it okay.

Journeyman Geek

@Videonauth not on AU

Henry WH Hack

11:03 AM

SU

Videonauth

ah o.k. i only see blue :)

Journeyman Geek

I'm a SU mod, though AU mods are fine with me occationally stepping in to help out on chat

I lost an AU election actually ;p

Henry WH Hack

Where do I sign up?

Journeyman Geek

er. Wait for the next election?

Videonauth

yay finaly my crontab worked :)

Henry WH Hack

11:09 AM

The closes I every came to a mod was being a hall monitor at school. :)

Hall monitor

In the United States, a hall monitor may be either a student volunteer who is charged with maintaining order in a school's corridors, or an adult paraprofessional staff member who carries out similar duties, sometimes in conjunction with other functions. Students may be selected as hall monitors because they are judged responsible, or they may be appointed by rota. While specific duties vary between establishments, hall monitors typically check hall passes; maintain overall good conduct in the corridors; and ensure that students are punctual in attending classes. Hall monitors may also be posted...

@Videonauth Congrats what ever that is. :)

Videonauth

you should definitively work more in Linux, then you would know that this is an automated process on the machine where you can define jobs to be done at certain times :D

like doing a backup and such things

Henry WH Hack

How did you learn Linux again?

Videonauth

by using it :)

Journeyman Geek

The hard way's good ;p

Videonauth

and reading a lot

Henry WH Hack

11:13 AM

That's what I am doing.

Videonauth

and finally I have grown the most understanding by building my own Linux :)

that gave me the best understanding what goes where and so on

Henry WH Hack

I know more Windows than Linux. :)

:(

Videonauth

I still do too, used windows more than half of my life

untill februrary where i finaly was sick of the nagging screens for updating to win 10

then i dumped it first on my laptop played around there for about 2,5 months with linux and then finaly changed my production machine to linux

Henry WH Hack

I still can't get UBUNTU to work in a vm it does not load correctly. :(

Videonauth

let me guess when you try to install you get a distorted screen ?

Henry WH Hack

11:20 AM

No I got a very slow system.

Videonauth

this you can sort out by 1. installing the guest additions and 2. by updating your 16.04 and 3. by giving it enough resources to run with

Henry WH Hack

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Videonauth

the other guest systems would have used the guest additions as well if you installed them and most probably would have performed even smoother

Videonauth

11:37 AM

askubuntu.com/review/low-quality-posts/568521 mhmmmmmm

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

12:34 PM

0

Q: Why does modifying /etc/fstab and starting the autofs service corrupt my home directory?

I am running Ubuntu Linux 16.04 on a Lenovo Thinkstation. Yesterday when I modified /etc/fstab and started the autofs service, I lost access to my home directory /home/frank which I valiantly tried to recover. Why did that problem occur and how might I prevent it the future? Any help is greatly...

ubuntu mount autofs

Anonymous

12:45 PM

@HenryWHHack I can help you get Ubuntu working in a VM... But you should really use Xubuntu or Lubuntu instead -- better for VMs

Henry WH Hack

@onebree Yes you can help

Just tell me where can I get a 32 bit Ubuntu iso? All I can find is a 62 bit.

Anonymous

Ubuntu vanilla?

Anonymous

@HenryWHHack Link to 32-bit Ubuntu 16.04 LTS TORRENT

Anonymous

Use something like qbit to open that link. From there, burn the resultant ISO onto a USB.

Henry WH Hack

I don't have a torrent client but I will get one right now.

a legal one.

Anonymous

12:51 PM

This is legal

Anonymous

Torrenting is usually better -- you are less likely to get an iso with an incorrect checksum. I've found personally that direct downloads didn't work.

Anonymous

@HenryWHHack qbit is legal, to my knowledge qbittorrent.org/index.php

Anonymous

qbit on github

Henry WH Hack

Okay I will use qbit. :)

bittorrent.

Anonymous

gotta start work now. If you need mor help, I'll check back in 3 hours

Henry WH Hack

1:00 PM

Okay Thank You. :)

blade19899

1:35 PM

Anybody:

2

Q: Malware scanner for websites code?

I have multiple Linux CentOS servers that are scanned with the Google Webmaster Tools and when it finds some malicious code on my servers (shared/dedicated), the ranking of those site drops. What I am looking for is a server scanner that scans .php, .js files and the likes for malware code, so ...

linux javascript php security malware

Journeyman Geek

@onebree also faster

@HenryWHHack torrenting linux livecds is not only legal, but encouraged

Also, seeding is a nice thing to do

Henry WH Hack

I am not worry about the torrent.

I was worried about the client.

Journeyman Geek

oh

I use it

its lovely

you can use any other client of your choice tho

Henry WH Hack

bittorrent.

Journeyman Geek

erf. If you must

I'm mad at them for mucking up utorrent on windows

Henry WH Hack

1:48 PM

No bad words are allow. :)

LOL

Journeyman Geek

Actually I did mean muck.

Henry WH Hack

Okay Do mods get more respect than normal users?

Journeyman Geek

But really, there's quite a lot of better clients around these days

@HenryWHHack You have it backwards ;p

Mods typically are users who've earned some degree of respect and ~~are nagged into~~ step up into standing for, and winning an election

Henry WH Hack

I was blocked like 2-3 times and kicked out 5 times.

Videonauth

@JourneymanGeek hehehehe

Journeyman Geek

1:57 PM

@HenryWHHack Well, that's clearly a sign that some adjustments in how you act are needed.

RobotHumans

@JourneymanGeek So much that. Some users even enter in to mod elections on the platform - "regretfully, i'll do it if you ask me to... but I'ld rather someone else did it"

Journeyman Geek

@RobotHumans On SU my election platform was "I'm on vacation right now. Yes I'm standing"

or something like that

RobotHumans

XD

Henry WH Hack

Like what adjustments?

@Videonauth Thank You! :)

Journeyman Geek

well, look back at what you did when you got kicked

then don't do it.

Videonauth

2:03 PM

for ?

Henry WH Hack

But I did not know what I did.

@Videonauth The Ubuntu VM

ah ok

Your 43 years old.

@HenryWHHack ?

Stuff like that.

What does it even mean?

ahh

@jokerdino askubuntu.com/users/513330/fetchy spammer

jokerdino

2:08 PM

too bad

Henry WH Hack

@jokerdino You called.

RobotHumans

The hard part about doing something a little different is that the documentation doesn't exist yet...

Journeyman Geek

@RobotHumans then you can write the documentation as you go along

RobotHumans

@JourneymanGeek This is true-ish

The problem with that is that sometimes you wind up with this, and while thoroughly documented - you're not sure what it's supposed to do.

Journeyman Geek

2:31 PM

@RobotHumans 3 words.

Late. Night. Bacon.

Videonauth

2:43 PM

@jokerdino can you please peer review my edit here i tested this guys code over and over and didn't make it work so i rewrote it and proposed it as edit

Videonauth

2:54 PM

@TheBrownOne got it working :) casecurity.ssllabs.com/analyze.html?d=videonauth.dyndns.org

i just wonder it i have to re-run certbot-auto or is it hidden somehwere in the system ?

Seth

@Videonauth if it doesn't work and the OP insists it does, better to post your own answer then change their "sacred" work, if you know what I mean..

Videonauth

@Seth so roll back then ?

Seth

yeah

user139252

@Videonauth I'm not sure, as I haven't used the newer certbot.

user139252

I'm still using the old letsencrypt-auto utility.

user139252

2:59 PM

I'll take a look through the certbot Github Repo to see if it creates a cron job for you or not.

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