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12:00 AM
@NathanOsman old school monitor...out of HDMI ports on my tv...
 
only 139 repcaps to go
 
who has only Ubuntu on their machine ?
 
personal or servers?
 
@Serg I have Ubuntu and 3 broken windows 7 on sda, sdb and sdc does that count?
 
@KazWolfe personal
 
12:11 AM
@Serg primary or backup?
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix what does Settings -> Details tell you about disk size ?
@KazWolfe cc ^
 
950GB on /
 
@Serg Disk 30.8 GB
 
but let me look at Settings/Details
because i'm just running df liek a boss
damnit X let me tunnel!!1!
this chat doesnt do gifv
what
that is dumb
 
I figured out that Details shows total disk space. But with only my / mounted, which is 120 gb, it actually shows 236 gb
so I'm trying to figure out what else it takes into account
also, i might take another burger because yolo
 
12:16 AM
 
@Serg Disks 30.8 GB, but Conky reports 28.7 GiB... Also I don't want you to think I"m space deprived, there is 78 GB of broken windows and 30 GB of unallocated space on that mSATA SSD. Plus there is a 240 GB SSD, with broken windows 118 GB, and unused 112GB, plus a 500GB HDD with broken Windows 300 GB and Ubuntu 14.04 200 GB. I shouldn't throw rocks in a glass house I guess :p
@KazWolfe Good answer +1: askubuntu.com/questions/842188/…
 
how am i already at +75
 
12:38 AM
something's not right then
 
@KazWolfe wat
geez, how did I ever become a part of this chat room?
 
@Zacharee1 fate
 
I've made myself hated in Arqade and 19th Byte ain't happy either it seems
 
@Zacharee1 i suppose our chatroom has specific type of humor which others don't tolerate
 
@Zacharee1 You're ok... don't worry about the haters.
 
12:45 AM
like #sergpuns
 
@Serg... today I was thinking of joining your dark side and implementing some Python scripts I saw posted.
@KazWolfe The paragraph you added to rationalize your answer is kind of wishy-washy "This is (likely) a bug with on both Asus' and Linux's end, where the two won't talk to each other normally. Therefore, if you tell Linux to identify itself in a different way than normal, The Asus BIOS will do things in such a way that Linux can understand and expect."
 
Who said physical access needs to be made impossble? When someone has physical access -ALL- bets are -OFF-. The owner of a machine should -ALWAYS- have access to his machine when he is next to it. Otherwise it would be possible to brick it with no ways of recovering. — Rinzwind 8 hours ago
sounds like a certain thing called MOBILE DEVICES @Rinzwind
 
1:06 AM
@Zacharee1 can't you display who voted for what?
 
only if they did it in CV
 
Can't you just do the CV and back up like you told me the other night to see who voted which way for what?
 
man, I was thinking Dreamchess way too easy on normal difficulty level 1, I put 8 there and I guess I lost about 10 in a row
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix yes, but only if they actually performed the vote in the queue
 
I wonder if the Surface studio will run Ubuntu...
 
anyone use ubuntu touch?
 
@PhilipKirkbride yes, I believe @NathanOsman does
 
1:47 AM
Trying to work up the courage to try the generic image on some old devices I have
 
@TheXed No, I do not
Still haven't got that N5 working yet.
 
@NathanOsman, oh...isn't there someone that does though?
 
@Mateo is your man.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix ??
 
Sorry?
I just got out of the shower... what did I miss?
Oh I see yo don't have to vote in the queue... got it.
 
2:05 AM
seems like my unity-control-center has a bug : bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center-unity/+bug/1637038 Feel free to bump up my report
 
236 GB isn't double of 118 GB...
 
@Serg what did you want me to check?
 
@KazWolfe OK , would it be possible for you to mount an extra partition and immediately unmount it ?
if not, don't worry
 
pre-mount: 739.3 GB listed
 
See my issue is that if I mount then unmount a partition on another drive, Settings -> Details shows double the size of my / partition
 
2:10 AM
post-mount, same.
 
OK, so definitelly a bug here
 
pre/during/post all read 739.3
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev            4.2G     0  4.2G   0% /dev
tmpfs           825M   32M  794M   4% /run
/dev/sda4       244G   53G  179G  23% /
tmpfs           4.2G  614M  3.6G  15% /dev/shm
tmpfs           5.3M  4.1k  5.3M   1% /run/lock
tmpfs           4.2G     0  4.2G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sda2       495G  371G  125G  75% /win32
/dev/sda1       1.2G  274M  907M  24% /boot/efi
cgmfs           103k     0  103k   0% /run/cgmanager/fs
tmpfs           825M  115k  825M   1% /run/user/1000
 
no, I'm talking about Unity Settings -> Details
you're looking at df
 
yeah, that's where i was looking
it stayed at 739.3. This is just the DF from post-mount as well
 
So pre-mount i have 118.0 GB , mount partition and it will show 546 GB, unmount and it shows 238.0 GB
 
2:13 AM
so... not sure what to tell you
that's weird
 
that's why i submitted bug report
^_^
 
@TheXed Is that a new icon? like ghost busters or something?
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix what icon?
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix no, old icon. We had a craze about ubuntu misspellings
 
Oh I never noticed the No logo over his icon before.
I never misspell ubunnuto
do you? :p
 
2:23 AM
well, some people who come to site do that
gosh im so stressed
home, home now
screw my classes, i need sleep
bed, sleep, nau
 
You should go home....It's 8:26pm here,,,, same there
?
Holy crap 26c for you in Denver tomorrow @Serg, but only 6c for me in Edmonton, you should be happy!
 
i am happy for that but not happy that i am basically running on 1 hour of sleep whole day. My heart really hurts
 
You were depressed 2 or 3 nights ago as well.... why invest so much time in this site when your schooling should come first?
 
XD i was depressed because of my schooling
this site keeps me happy
 
With your education this site makes you a shining star....perhaps in school you are average though?
 
2:37 AM
probably below average
i had really bad grades at one time
also, failed C programming 2 times. Finally passed with A when i started learning Linux amd stuff. Also now tutoring people in that language
 
Even a below average Electrical Engineer will make a lot more money than an above average Ask Ubuntu free specialist.
 
maybe i can earn even more with good AskUbuntu reputation on resume ^_^
 
haah that's my strategy
it's in my bio
...indirectly
 
god damn it
X11 broke. fml.
 
Meanwhile I'm trying to get a Java app to run on OS X...
 
2:52 AM
These horror stories are making me feel not so bad that all I have to do tomorrow is show up 1/2 earlier to prep for 14 skids of ice melt coming into the warehouse.
 
god damn it i might need to reinstall my graphics stack
 
@NathanOsman hahaha
 
so seth
why'd you go resistance ;-;
also... wtf x
X.Org X Server 1.18.4
Release Date: 2016-07-19
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 3.13.0-95-generic x86_64 Ubuntu
Current Operating System: Linux BlackHawk 4.4.0-45-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 19 14:12:37 UTC 2016 x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-45-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=454bbc53-ab3d-4b16-b514-5d07ae571990 ro quiet splash acpi_osi= nomodeset vt.handoff=7
Build Date: 14 September 2016  03:33:24PM
xorg-server 2:1.18.4-0ubuntu0.1 (For technical support please see ubuntu.com/support)
 
3:08 AM
if (axnum >= dev->valuator->numAxes)
^--- there's where it's failing
 
yeah.
how do i stop it from failing
 
here's the xorg 0 log:
[   468.356] (--) synaptics: ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: touchpad found
[   474.400] (II) UnloadModule: "synaptics"
[   474.400] (II) evdev: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Close
[   474.400] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[   474.400] (II) evdev: Asus WMI hotkeys: Close
[   474.400] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[   474.400] (II) evdev: ELAN Touchscreen: Close
[   474.400] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[   474.400] (II) evdev: USB2.0 UVC HD Webcam: Close
[   474.400] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[   474.400] (II) evdev: Corsair Vengeance 2100: Close
okay, so i know where the error is happening. How does that fix this issue?
back to blaming nvidia then
 
3:54 AM
PURGE X :D
hey, does mir suck still?
 
What, somebody actually got it running?
 
easy points for somene I am sure:
0
Q: How to change encryption password?

TheXedSo when I originally installed Ubuntu, I opted to have my hard drive encrypted, which is fine, but all of a sudden I can't seem to type my password (not sure what my deal is). But anyways after the third or fourth attempt I am finally able to type in my password correctly and then progress to the...

 
4:16 AM
why is x failing so badly ;-;
i purged everything so this makes no sense
 
No root user... interesting...
groups: cannot find name for group ID 0
I have no name!@e28e1deba025:/#
 
for once it wasn't nvidia.
 
That's an interesting prompt
 
33
Q: When I open Terminal, I get an "I have no name!" prompt

ipdSuddenly, this morning, I open a Terminal window and I get this: I have no name!@macbook:~$ whoami 502 ** I am not a number! I am a human being! ** What gives? Anyone know what I need to do to get my name back? I suppose there are two problems here, one is that my hostname is undefined, ...

 
I don't think debootstrap did its job here.
 
5:07 AM
Nothing makes me cringe more than listening to a non-technical person describe something to another non-technical person.
 
so @NathanOsman, i figured out the cause.
 
Apparently something in X updated, causing a bug with evdev validation for fake devices.
Like my headset.
Because I can unplug that and everything works now.
Though i'm still crashing at login, but that's probably because no nvidia
 
5:45 AM
i love how linux can recover from fatal errors so amazingly
 
Because we didn't know
 
7:08 AM
@NathanOsman if you told me about the question I would have answered it >:-D
 
Lol.
 
7:40 AM
hi
have i written something stupid here?
"For netflix, silverlight or pipelight is needed" this assumption is incorrect in first place. Check the answer. You only need chrome even if you don't want to use firefox — Anwar 1 min ago
 
I have no idea, but while you can you could edit for clarity - I think you mean they could use chrome instead of firefox without doing anything extra in chrome?
 
that's what I learned
 
holy goats, my answer took off :D
 
@KazWolfe what?
 
24
A: How is being able to break into any Linux machine through grub2 secure?

Kaz WolfeThis is no less secure than someone having access to your hardware, pulling the hard drive, chrooting to it, and running passwd. In fact, the very reason this exists is to prevent you from having to do this is everything happens to break, which it does eventually. Grub is not meant to be a ste...

i should probably clean up and restructure it
 
7:50 AM
@KazWolfe congrats! Let me see If I can vote it to close as a dupe of something else ;)
 
i got the rep already so.....
:D
 
8:05 AM
ok. I'll close it
 
there, rewritten for clarity and niceness
 
Great edit there @KazWolfe
 
thanks :)
i thought i might make it a bit more clean and personal
 
very readable.
but you don't want me to upvote again. do you?
 
8:20 AM
i'm happy to take your reputation but your votes are your choice
and if you already upvoted, you can't vote again, really.
 
I mean pressing the upvote button again. :) just joking
@Zanna karel removed that comment. That dupe won't help them.
 
@Anwar I voted wrong?
 
it's not about upgrades, the question was about dirty cow bug. They want the fixes for Ubuntu 10. the answer will be upgrade Ubuntu first if you want to get the fixes
voting to close is OK.
as EOL
 
Oh I thought that would help them the most
of course it's EOL but the message they get will be "do this and then we can help you"
 
8:35 AM
The target question was about being able to install packages in EOL releases
it won't help them upgrade to non-EOL
 
I thought it was also how to upgrade
 
No, it isn't
That will only help them install packages from EOL repositories.
 
I think it is...
 
link?
 
8:38 AM
foss answer includes suggestion to upgrade to non-EOL. but the question is basically staying with non-EOL release while being able to install packages
 
go to bottom of answer....
 
otherwise you will get 404 errors. All other answers address that issue only. And the question was about it
 
I think it's necessary to do something to sources to be able to run do-release-upgrade
otherwise the dupe is "how do I install Ubuntu"
(ie to fresh install over your old system after making backups)
 
Foss' answer included that part, that's helpful. but no other answers did include it. And the questions wasn't asking how they could upgrade from EOL to non-EOL. We'll look at the questions when we dupe, not answers.
 
If the target is upgrading to supported, it's valid on this site.
But I'm pretty sure there's a dupe target for that.
 
8:48 AM
But a comment like "This answer might help .." is fine
 
the question says "...**or** upgrade from unsupported release"
 
there, fixed.
 
@Zanna yes. getting upgrade from unsupported release. That's what they wanted
 
I think it means to upgrade to a supported one :S
 
8:50 AM
from was the key
 
No, it's not a dupe, @Zanna. OP's intent wasn't to upgrade. It was to stay and fix Dirty Cow and just that.
OP should upgrade, and had he asked how to do that, it would have been a dupe. But in the form the question was in, it wasn't possibly close to being a duplicate imo
 
from being a place you go away from I thought
I know it's not a dupe, but it's an unclear question that will be closed anyway, and the dupe message is more helpful than the EOL message
 
He asked a new question though, so he knows that he's EOL and should upgrade, so it doesn't really matter.
 
seems like Kaz is saying the opposite of Anwar, so I am wrong from the left, and wrong from the right, but I don't think either wants me to retract my vote, am I right or wrong about that? ;)
 
I say EOL, but it's closed now so it doesn't matter :P
Nobody's ever right, Zanna. It's impossible.
 
8:57 AM
Hey everybody
 
The main question is about Dirty Cow. Closing the question without even mentioning about it can be frustrating.
 
@Anwar I take your point there
 
^ The question was about fixing Dirty Cow on 10.04.
Not upgrading in this case.
 
Indirectly saying upgrade to supported release (contained in only 1 answer) won't help them. You should at least say something about the bug in the comment section
 
10.04 that's 6 years ago?
 
8:59 AM
When I first see the post, it had only one comment. "Possible duplicate of ...." How was that helpful for a new user?
 
By the way does __GI___pthread_mutex_lock mean anything to any of you guys?
 
@Thijser sort of, why?
 
I'm getting this error while installing caffe
and all I got so far is that there was a bug in the gnome shell that could cause this except that's not what I'm using
 
@Anwar well, i saw the post in the review queue, with loads of comments, and I thought yes we should close this question, and the first problem is to upgrade
 
it's still likely a bug with whatever pacage you're installing.
 
9:01 AM
2
Q: __GI___pthread_mutex_lock error in opencv/caffe

ThijserHaving resolved the problem in my previous question I installed caffe following the guide and it works fine until I get to the make runtest step. At this point it throws the [ RUN ] ImageDataLayerTest/0.TestResize *** Aborted at 1477424981 (unix time) try "date -d @1477424981" if you a...

 
Yeah, but close policy doesn't say "use dupe to point OP to answer", it's "use dupe to point future users to the canonical question"
EOL would be the appropriate close reason + a comment saying that an upgrade is needed, [see here] for instructions.
again, just my 2c tho
 
I also feel that, if one thinks a question should be duped to another the duplicity should be clear. If it is not, close voter should comment to remove the unclear part. They can say, follow this comment and upgrade to a supported release and you will get the fix when it is released
@KazWolfe I agree on that
 
Running Zimbra email server with hundreds of email accounts over over 2TB of email data. The time to migrate them and the downtime without email may not be acceptable to the users. — wong boon hong 2 mins ago
OH CHRIST
 
I personally think it's a good idea to make sure the user at least understands how to fix his problem
 
@Zanna Oh. That makes sense. Because you saw the comments.
And sorry, If I was being rude or harsh arguing on it.
 
9:04 AM
but kaz do you actually know what the error means as googling it gives very little explanation.
 
@Thijser sort of.
some code being called by whatever is throwing a SIGSEGV or essentailly a memory error
 
ok
 
Whatever program is trying to read/write to invalid memory.
I'm not 100% sure if it's a platform bug as opposed to a bug for just that program.
 
@Anwar no, not at all! I really need people to correct me so I can get it right, thank you for raising the issue, keep doing that :)
 
caffe en what might be opencv
 
9:06 AM
@Anwar makes sense, I will try to be less lazy :)
 
But if this is a problem with the programs rather then with ubuntu maybe I should migrate? Is superuser a valid one?
 
Hi fellas
 
cough
 
Hey @Käsebrot
 
9:09 AM
do you mind just a little vamping? pls :)
 
vamping or vaping?
 
simple question: If I grant permissions (on Mint) via sudo chown username: myfolder
 
@Zanna glad to know :)
 
how would I do the same for all underlying folders?
 
chown -R
 
9:10 AM
use -R
 
thank you
 
   -R, --recursive
          operate on files and directories recursively
From man chown
 
recursive is usually -R or -r
 
and I don't know if that works in Mint :)
 
it will work in Mint :)
 
9:11 AM
mint is very much like ubuntu
 
Mint uses the same POSIX standard i think so it should work
 
it did work with -R not with -r
thanks again
 
@KazWolfe jk
 
Ideally our Zimbra guy will just fresh-install but i doubt he will
 
@KazWolfe GNU, not POSIX.
No Linux is POSIX
 
9:19 AM
@terdon @GNU/Terdon I'm so GNU/Sorry that I GNU/MessedUp my GNU/Terminology.
 
:)
 
GNU/Prefix GNU/Everything with GNU/GNU!
Because we need to fuel RMS' ego and sense of accomplishment even more.
 
9:34 AM
Huh? No, that's not what I meant. Only that the GNU utilities usually differ from their POSIX counterparts and that all Linux distros will have the GNU ones, not the POSIX ones.
 
@KazWolfe agreed
@Anwar eh I doubt anyone would try to mess with commandoptions when making a different version :D
Linux is POSIX compatible. :)
 
Never found any command in Mint behave differently from what I know from Ubuntu. But when I tried to use recovery, I got asked for non-existant root password, which seemed kinda buggy... is that normal?
 
There might be one for recovery mode
 
well it wasn't one I had haha, had to boot from live CD and chroot to reset my dad's forgotten user password
 
9:50 AM
ubuntu-bug will be ubuntu only I assume?
 
@Rinzwind compatible, yes. My point is that the linux utils don't conform to the POSIX standard.
 
I do not disagree on that :=)
0
Q: Problem with copy more images to backup directory

Sr.HelioI have a problem when I need copy some images png and gif in a directory. I have this code: #!/bin/bash TYPEA="png" TYPEB="gif" read -p "Say a directoy" $DIRECTORY find ~/*.$TYPEA -size +10000k -exec cp -r $DIRECTORY {}\ find ~/*.$TYPEB -size +10000k -exec cp -r $DIRECTORY {}\

who want this? >:)
@Zanna see my comment >:-D
 
thanks for the quotes @terdon :)
 
np
 
@terdon you made a small mistake
the 1st 2 commands are a copy of the Q... and you added quotes to it
 
9:59 AM
I will fix
 
and does the find not need a "-name"? @Zanna
 
no name... they are just looking for size
 
but find does expect a dir as the 1st argument unless it is a parameter
 
this is the dir ~/*.$TYPEA apparently
 
nope
that is a file type :P (it translates to ~/*.png
but I am not sure and dont feel like opening a terminal >:-D
 
10:04 AM
hmm let's see :)
oh yeah we can't do that... we need the tilde expansion even if they are directories
edit time!
 
>:-D
 
@Rinzwind Ah, damn. Sorry @Zanna!
 
@terdon not to mention all the other mistakes in the commands >:=DDDD
 
@terdon my own fault :)
I think I fixed it now... hmm assuming I understood what they were trying to do
 
@Rinzwind There aren't any. find can take a file name or a list of file names just as well as a directory
$ touch 'myFile'
$ find ~/myFile
/home/terdon/myFile
@zwets actually, find can also take a file name as an argument. While not very good practice, find ~/*.png will actually find all files and directories whose names end in .png in ~/. It won't recurse though, it will only find the top level. Or, if any of the file names you give are actually directories, it will also find all files/dirs under them. — terdon ♦ 2 mins ago
 
10:15 AM
But the "-r" in the "cp" part assumes he wants to find them recursively >:-D
(see why I did not want to touch that @zanna :D )
 
@Rinzwind If we assume the OP actually knows what they're doing (and yes, I know that's probably a wrong assumption), the cp -r actually makes sense if they have directories named ~/foo.png and those directories contain the files they want.
 
no it's still horribly wrong lol
 
Otherwise, if they're looking for files, the -r is pointless.
 
the command zanna now has errors out >:-D
 
Um, no. Hang on, he's trying to copy the $DIRECTORY into the results of find o_O?
 
10:18 AM
yes he does >:)
I would advice @Zanna to remove the answer and we close this _O-
 
yeah it is craziness
now I fixed it... making huge assumptions about what they want to do
"I need copy some images png and gif in a directory." - I think I got it shrug leaving it now
 
10:47 AM
my answer got accepted, so I guess I got the right interpretation...
 
11:18 AM
2 hours ago, by Anwar
@KazWolfe jk
 
11:29 AM
why do people use duckduckgo?
3
 
@Anwar Because it's 1) pretty damn good; 2) Doesn't track you, collect data about you or otherwise infringe upon your privacy.
 
OP here said the question is answered by this
so, making it a dupe will be better imo
@terdon Thanks. Are you using it too?
 
Yes
It has some really cool features. For example, it lets you search other search engines as well. Searching for !you foo will search youtube for foo, !g foo will search google etc.
 
@Anwar you want reopen votes there?
 
11:51 AM
@terdon Nice! sorry for late response. was away from keyboard
@Zanna not actually. I was asking mod to change the close reason
 
ah... well let me know if you need my votes
 
12:17 PM
what is the OP asking here? askubuntu.com/q/841613/61218
 
12:29 PM
@Anwar those q's are always messy :D
I meant the chmod one ;)
 
chown
/var/lib/mysql/phpmyadmin mysql
/var/lib/mysql/phpmyadmin/pma__table_uiprefs.ibd mysql
/var/lib/mysql/phpmyadmin/pma__bookmark.frm mysql
/var/lib/mysql/phpmyadmin/pma__pdf_pages.ibd mysql
/var/lib/mysql/phpmyadmin/pma__usergroups.ibd mysql
/var/lib/mysql/phpmyadmin/pma__savedsearches.ibd mysql
/var/lib/mysql/phpmyadmin/pma__designer_settings.ibd mysql
/var/lib/mysql/phpmyadmin/pma__relation.ibd mysql
/var/lib/mysql/phpmyadmin/pma__export_templates.ibd mysql
/var/lib/mysql/phpmyadmin/pma__favorite.frm mysql
^ from my system. owned by mysql
 
I dont have php on my machines >:-D
friends dont let friends use php :P
so you aint a friend >:D
 
:D
 
:D
could he use another user for phpmyadmin? or it is always mysql?
 
Not sure. i think it should be mysql
 
12:34 PM
there I sponsored you
Ubuntu REALLY REALLY needs a file that holds all the default permissions
so you can restore them from that file
 
agreed
 
@Rinzwind that's such a good idea!
 
it's been proposed a long time ago ;-)
not going to happen
 
hmm..
 
12:38 PM
really need to go. power disturbance
 
see my deleted answer ;-) and oli's
nice command :D
 
@Rinzwind thanks! added to the answer
 
that last one has a bash script that looks promising
 
that one too!
blue flag!
 
heh got one missed another
@Rinzwind sounds like something that would be perfect as a bash script
 
12:52 PM
it is a bit flawed though :P it only works for things installed through apt
Not sure if I'd want software to install in /var/ myself though so it might be minor
 
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