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muru
muru
12:00 AM
@NathanOsman apparently the rollup is what allows the case when foo = 1 then total part
without it I can simply use a count, but not get a grand total
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
Anyone else have the Youtube button flickering bug?
'cause I have it and it's really quite annoying :P
 
Mateo
Mateo
huh, are you on flash or what plugin/browser
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
@Mateo HTML5
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
12:26 AM
My first ReactOS bug :)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@NathanOsman: man, I keep forgetting about that ;p
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Me too - I tried to run my app on it and immediately got a BSOD.
My curiosity got the best of me, so I dug a bit deeper.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
rofl.
I've been following them since before the code audit
(then kinda sorta internet died for a bit. Then came back, and found development was essentially stalled :/_
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
They are still working on it.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
12:42 AM
Why does this URL bother me? 
https://jira.reactos.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20CORE%20AND%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20AND%20component%20%3D%20Win32SS%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
12:57 AM
@NathanOsman too much ascii
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Decoded: 
https://jira.reactos.org/issues/?jql=project = CORE AND resolution = Unresolved AND component = Win32SS ORDER BY priority DESC
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@NathanOsman too many spaces and SQL code 
Code:
System.Print JQLSQLCodeInjectionRisk.Exists();

Output:
TRUE
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
1:13 AM
QFATAL : TestQHttpSocket::testRequestProperties() Received signal 11
Hrm. That unit test failed.
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
heh
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Seen on IRC: '<Vampyre>: I named my computer "Bob"'
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@NathanOsman lol. Which net?
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
FreeNode.
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
lol, where
nah don't answer
it's a lulzy thing anyways
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
1:23 AM
In the #reactos channel.
It's funnier when you see where it came from.
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
XD Indeed.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Here's all this technical discussion and in the middle of all that, someone joins just to tell us what he named his computer.
 
Seth
Seth
You guys should spend a day in ##programming. Or better not.
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@Seth Yeah no.
@Seth got computer access now?
 
Seth
Seth
Yup. Going through the queue now.
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
1:31 AM
i have a flag that's declined I want to dispute
 
Seth
Seth
ok
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
so i need to smack the mod who declined it
 
Seth
Seth
What post?
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
You are correct, I would add them but I am unsure of what exactly they are named. — user397980 Apr 14 at 12:50
^ declined. But obsolete by the next post....
You are correct, I would add them but I am unsure of what exactly they are named. gconftool -u "/$entry" was suppost to "Unset" all of the keybindings BUT maybe what your looking for is (gconftool -u "/apps/gnome_settings_daemon/keybindings/navigation), if this doesn't help. Maybe you could try installing gconf-editor (sudo apt-get install gconf-editor) open it up and try changing settings in (apps->metacity->global_keybindings) or (apps->metacity->keybinding_commands) Hope this helps, sorry I couldn't find the exact thing you are looking for. — user397980 Apr 14 at 12:57
where they start that way
i flagged that short one and it was declined
same user same post
0
A: Restore lost keyboard shortcut

user397980You could use terminal if you wanted. Open a terminal use the command gconftool -u "/$entry"

 
Seth
Seth
hm yes, I've deleted the comment. My best guess is that it didn't look obsolete from within the flag dialog (the comment flag UI is pretty bad). Comments aren't considered that important (and we can't mark a flag helpful without deleting or editing the comment) so if it isn't obvious they often get declined. Taken care of now. Thanks!
@muru btw, I've been meaning to reply on your meta post for a few days. Been having a super busy week.
I'll see if I can get to it tonight.
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
1:35 AM
@Seth thanks for reviewing it. got abother pending flag for handling
but you already know about it from earlier
 
Seth
Seth
yep. It's next in line.
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@Seth deletion to make redirection work, maybe, would work?
since it's already closed
(and verbatim copypaste)
 
Seth
Seth
Good point.
What do people think of this?
0
Q: Increase disk space without losing any data

Roman AftantilidisI have a server running webmin/virtualmin in debian 7 with one 80GB hard drive. I want to increase disk space adding a second 1TB disk, but without losing any data as I'm hosting a few websites. Any method and help is appreciated, Thank you.

disk data-loss add-on
I'm on the fence. Migrate to Unix & Linux and send good content away or just edit out the reference to debian (since the question has absolutely nothing to do with it).
 
Mateo
Mateo
without losing any data
might be something specific that might be missed
I'm against editing away problems, if is ubuntu it is ubuntu. if it is not... then it isn't
plus this comment:
It worked great! Thank you :) I couldn't make it with gparted in debian, so i edited the fstab file where I changed location of new drive and automount. — Roman Aftantilidis 13 hours ago
" I couldn't make it with gparted in debian"
 
muru
muru
1:51 AM
@Seth which one?
 
Seth
Seth
@muru The one about closing. Was there another I missed?
@Mateo ah, I had missed that.
Sending off right now.
 
muru
muru
-1
Q: Reminder: Questions on EOL releases are not off-topic simply because they're EOL releases

muruA question isn't off-topic simply because it's about an EOL release. If the problem is specific to that release, sure, but not otherwise. Questions like the following are on-topic: PLEASE HELP!"Desktop effects could not be enabled" Ubuntu 10.04 on ppc wifi is unable to connect with ubuntu 10.0...

discussion
If that's the case, as I said to Oli, the examples are just examples. Feel free to edit in any better examples.
 
Seth
Seth
ok. I think we had a bit of a misunderstanding on the last one so I want to clear that up too, I'm just not sure exactly what was misunderstood and on what side. Sorry.
 
muru
muru
the misunderstanding if any is in this:
I think any driver problems cannot be simply closed as OT, unless any of the close voters can show it is fixed in a newer version.
None have. Ever.
Without that, there's no way to say if a problem is specific to that (EOL) release.
That's all I have to say.
 
Mateo
Mateo
the point is -> they upgrade and test -> if they still have the problem the question can stay -> if they don't problem solved, day saved, security of the Internet is maintained -> if they still have the problem the will have better resources and tools and up to date locations of all the stuff that changed
 
muru
muru
2:01 AM
@Mateo That was pretty much my argument against the rewording.
At any rate, end of story. I refuse to discuss this anymore.
 
Mateo
Mateo
then they can go back and try the fix on the eol version if they really need to, but that is not our problem
 
Seth
Seth
I agree that is where we miss each other, but I think for different reasons. I don't think trying to "prove" that something is specific or not is either worth our time nor all that useful. Just close it or don't close it. I only want to save the questions that are obviously not related to an EOL release (e.g. my android example question). If you have to fire up a VM to figure out if it's a good enough question to stick around it most likely should be closed. It isn't worth that much trouble.
And I think that's where we got confused. When I said "burden of proof" I didn't mean you have to literally prove something and I didn't realize that is what you meant.
 
Mateo
Mateo
so I'm in the close first ask questions later on new eol questions
 
muru
muru
(what's the emoticon for zipped mouth?)
 
Seth
Seth
@Mateo right, but for questions like this that is both pointless and a waste of time.
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
2:04 AM
 
Mateo
Mateo
yeah, close - drop a comment about upgrading if needed - reopen once the dust is settled if needed
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
Geez. That's bad
I thought we got 1 Mb/s down officially, nope, it's 768 Kbps
 
Seth
Seth
@Mateo no, my point is that question has nothing to do with the EOL release, the answer will be the same regardless. No point in wasting close votes and reviewer time.
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
I feel like that is recent...this entire past week our internet has felt quite a bit slower...AT&T, if you're pulling shenanigans ...
 
Mateo
Mateo
@Seth and how was that answer going ;O
 
Seth
Seth
2:08 AM
@Mateo eh? My answer has nothing to do with it, if that's what you mean. It just brought the issue to my eyes.
 
Mateo
Mateo
I'm trying to say that there is always going to be an issue trying to make answers when you are using a new version, and they are using an old version, pointless to try and answer
 
Seth
Seth
@Mateo I'm afraid I disagree. The answer applies equally to 13.10 as it does 14.04.
Those are the questions I want to save. If the answer has to be specific to an EOL release than close it.
If you aren't sure ask someone else or just close it.
Seems pretty simple ^^
 
Seth
Seth
2:27 AM
Well I'm going to go watch a musical.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
2:57 AM
@RPiAwesomeness We only get about 256 Kbps up, so you're already ahead of me.
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
@NathanOsman Woo! :D First time I've ever heard that! :P
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
We do get a full 1 Mbps down though.
It used to be 1.2 but then they realized their mistake and fixed it :|
I found a provider in the area that provides 5 Mbps for only about $6 more per month (and it's $30 off for the first 6 months).
 
Seth
Seth
3:13 AM
That sounds like a good deal to me.
5Mbps up from 1 is a big jump.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
The cap is twice as much too.
The only catch is that we have to switch our home phone provider too or it won't save us enough money.
Thankfully out here you can switch providers while keeping the same number.
 
Seth
Seth
Same here. At least we managed it.
 
Seth
Seth
3:50 AM
-7
Q: merging askubuntu and unix stackexchange

Mohsen PahlevanzadehI'm forced myself to serve unix.stackexchage to moderate, answer , essential comments and so on. I'd like to do above task in askubuntu , however my favorite OS is Debian, But i'd like do it. Why askubuntu and unix estackexchange have not been merged? Is it policy of you or historical? I predict ...

discussion feature-request community
heh
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
4:11 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: http://swolekreatine.com/thermo-extreme/ by rkajeehe Eodr on askubuntu.com
 
TheX
TheX
4:28 AM
So what have you done with your rpi lately?
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
6 hours ago, by Nathan Osman
I turned my Raspberry Pi into an AirPlay server.
6 hours ago, by Nathan Osman
So I can walk into the room with my phone, press a button, and whatever my phone is playing gets pushed to the Pi (which is connected to the speakers).
 
TheX
TheX
That is cool.
I just streamed star trek via a nas4free box that I ripped from a DVD via ubuntu using openelec that is networked via a wireless bridge on a linksys wrt-54gl with dd-wrt installed
Openelec on the pi that is
The only thing that wasn't open source was the actual router which was only handling dhcp anyways.
 
 
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SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
5:51 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: High Quality Ingredients For Body Building by Karolin Feffer on askubuntu.com
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
6:24 AM
0
Q: What could be the output of command `lsblk -f -r | grep ' /' | grep -v ' /boot'` on encrypted drives?

snoopSuppose we have drives which are encrypted, what could be the output of following command in Debian based (specially Ubuntu OS)? lsblk -f -r | grep ' /' | grep -v ' /boot'

ubuntu filesystems encryption
 
 
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SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
8:32 AM
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
9:04 AM
 
Ask Ubuntu Meta
Ask Ubuntu Meta
0
Q: What to do with answers that should be comments, but not get deleted?

ByteCommanderAs the reputation requirement to comment is pretty high (50), many new users who want to contribute to the site use answers to leave a comment on questions, e.g. to request additional information needed to write a proper answer. Sometimes those posts (which always get flagged as not-an-answer of...

discussion feature-request comments answers flagging
 
Danatela
Danatela
Hi guys!
anybody...
 
fossfreedom
fossfreedom
9:20 AM
@Danatela hi!
 
user136984
@fossfreedom: Are you a mouse? Or a sock...? Sorry, the image is really small on my screen and I can't see what it is! :D :P
 
fossfreedom
fossfreedom
definitely a mouse - a mighty mouse - danger is my name ... :)
 
Danatela
Danatela
my brother is going to get married this week... can anybody suggest some ideas how to congratulate him?)
@fossfreedom greetings!
 
Oli
Oli
@Danatela (If they drink) A really good bottle of something traditional is always fun present, especially if you get to drink it with them. What's the fanciest Vodka (or their favourite drink) you can get your hands on?
Or something that means something to both of you, from a happy memory, etc.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
9:43 AM
Is that a new shade of green? ;p
@Danatela: fire!
 
Danatela
Danatela
@Oli we are designing two bottles of champagne as bride and groom)
 
Oli
Oli
@JourneymanGeek Yup
 
Danatela
Danatela
@JourneymanGeek ???
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Fire! Its simple and useful! And worth getting your liver plucked out over all of eternity!
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
@Oli @JourneymanGeek Would you two as moderators mind to have a quick look at my last meta discussion/feature-request post? It's about converting answers to comments
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
9:49 AM
@ByteCommander I tend to convert them if they are good.
 
Danatela
Danatela
I just thought that Ubuntu fan like me can create something more creative than just get drunk)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
But I suspect this might be something TBTP might decide on. I'd also hint that this might be a handy 30K user ability, and I vaguely recall some talk of that.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
@JourneymanGeek That is also in my opinion the best approach. But it happens too rarely and normal users have no chance instead of manually flagging for moderator attention - which is not even possible inside the LQ review queue.
 
Fabby
Fabby
@JourneymanGeek :D
@ByteCommander Just left an answer as a comment not to spoil your answers...
@ByteCommander Yes it is: Open the question in a new tab...
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
The problem with converting is that its a pretty significant thing, you need to look at the comment thread as well...
 
Fabby
Fabby
9:53 AM
Yup...
@JourneymanGeek That's why I do this about 1/month only... It has to be significant to actually go through the whole rigmarole...
 
Danatela
Danatela
@ByteCommander IMO they are put in the proper queue if you flag them as "not an answer"
 
A.B.
A.B.
It's possible to monitor /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealaram?
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
Hmm... I see your points, but I still would like to have at least a "reflag for mods" in the review queue.
 
A.B.
A.B.
Is it possible to determine by whom the file is changed?
I have tried thie: sudo auditctl -w /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealaram -p w -k rtc_access
 
Oli
Oli
@A.B. I don't think that'll work. They're not really files... All the sysfs stuff is actually just part of the kernel.
 
A.B.
A.B.
10:04 AM
@Oli Is there another solution?
 
Oli
Oli
TL;DR: Poll the file manually.
That still won't tell you who changed it.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
15.04 Vivid is going to be a LTS???
 
Oli
Oli
@ByteCommander No, they're typically every two years.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
It states this in the tag excerpt!
That's what I thought too, only even years' 04 versions are LTS. That's why I ask.
> The upcoming (currently beta) LTS (Long Term Support) release of Ubuntu, code-named "Vivid Velvet". To be released on 23rd April, 2015. Only use this tag if your question is version-specific.
That's definitely wrong then.
 
Oli
Oli
Not any more :)
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
10:06 AM
You edited?
 
Oli
Oli
I did.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
Okay, thanks. I was just about to do it myself... :)
 
Oli
Oli
@kos ^^^ Do you know something about 15.04 I don't
 
terdon
terdon
Any idea why I'm getting this error when attempting to run mplayer from a crontab? 
AO: [pulse] Init failed: Connection refused
Oddly enough, spd-say works as expected.
~/.mplayer/config : 
ao=pulse
lirc=no
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
Connection refused? Something wrong with the loopback interface?
(just a newbie at this specific topic's guess out of the blue...)
 
Oli
Oli
10:12 AM
@terdon Because the crontab doesn't have access (via environment vars, I'd guess) to Pulseaudio.
 
terdon
terdon
@Oli Yeah, I guessed as much but I don't know what I need to set. I tried adding my user to the audio group but that didn't help. What confuses me even more is that spd-say does work (though vlc also fails).
 
Oli
Oli
@terdon Does this user have an active X session?
 
terdon
terdon
@Oli Yes
I'm trying to answer this:
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Q: Why putting a script in /etc/cron.hourly is not working?

Black BlockI put an executable script in /etc/cron.hourly, but that script didn't run every hour actually it never runs at all. Here is the script content: #!/bin/bash mplayer ~/Music/sfx_msg-highlight.wv &> /dev/null & spd-say -r -50 -p 50 -t male3 "The time now is $(date +"%l %p")" notify-send "It's: " "$(date +"%l %p") now." -i ~/Pictures/"first tee.png" -t 5000 So how to make this work?

scripts cron
 
Oli
Oli
 
terdon
terdon
I figure there are three issues, 1) run-parts and its silly name constraints 2) setting DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY and, apparently, 3) figuring out how to get mplayer to play nice.
@Oli Thanks, let me try that
 
Oli
Oli
10:20 AM
Just tested, works for me.
 
terdon
terdon
@Oli Really?
No change for me: 
AO: [pulse] Init failed: Connection refused
Failed to initialize audio driver 'pulse'
Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
This is the script I'm running: 
#!/bin/bash

DISPLAY=":0.0"
XAUTHORITY="/home/terdon/.Xauthority"
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR="/run/user/1001"

mplayer /home/terdon/Pictures/Photos/Casa/2008-02-11--14.52.12/00035.wav &
sleep 5
spd-say -r -50 -p 50 -t male3  "The time now is $(date +"%l %p")"
notify-send "It's: " "$(date +"%l %p") now."  -t 5000
echo "Ran on $(date)" >> /home/terdon/aa
Maybe the variables need to be set in the crontab instead. Let me try that.
YES!
 
Oli
Oli
@terdon Sorry I was testing from a TTY thinking it'd be a blank slate enough... But it works even without the variable.
 
terdon
terdon
They need to be set in the crontab.
Moving the vars from the script to the crontab fixed it all.
Cool, thanks.
I don't think that will be possible via /etc/cron.hourly then
 
Oli
Oli
@terdon It'd have to su down but should still be possible.
 
terdon
terdon
@Oli How? As far as I know, cron.hourly needs to have a run-parts compatible script in it. Since setting the vars in the script itself failed (when run with a normal crontab), I expect it will also fail via cron.hourly. I had to set the vars in the body of the crontab instead.
Presumably, it's a shell thing and they need to be set in the parent shell for some reason.
 
Oli
Oli
10:28 AM
I'm still murky on shall variables... Would export DISPLAY=":0.0" (etc) help?
 
terdon
terdon
@Oli I don't think so. It seems like I can't set them in the script itself and cron.hourly is just a directory with scripts. No need to use that anyway, using user crontabs is much neater.
OK, answer posted. Let's see if it works for the OP.
 
 
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Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
1:57 PM
0
Q: Dav SVN apache mod not working in Ubuntu trusty when there are spaces in the url

carbontwelveI am using Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS with subversion 1.8.8 and attempting to set up remote svn access via apache2 with mod_dav_svn - this is a migration to linux from a windows server running apache2. The issue I am having is that any <location> with a space in its name will not work, the below example...

ubuntu apache subversion webdav
 
A.B.
A.B.
0
Q: Have Unattended-Upgrade perform check before restarting

KaralgaUnattended-Upgrade upgrades and restarts my machine without any issues. However, I have a python script that runs infrequently, but when it runs it may take days to complete. I would like to suspend automatic reboots while this script runs. What is the easiest way of achieving this?

unattended-upgrades
"Unattended-Upgrade upgrades and restarts my machine" I have never experienced before. Happened really?
 
kos
kos
2:30 PM
@Oli Sorry about the bad excerpt, it was a result of a very bad Trusty excerpt edit, also I pulled a fix for the name which is not "Vivid Velvet" but rather "Vivid Vervet". About what exactly?
 
Oli
Oli
@kos Thanks.
 
kos
kos
@Oli No problem.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
Bash script question:
What does this if statement check? 
if [ ! -x /usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown ]; then
	exit 0
fi
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
@ByteCommander it checks if the files exists.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
I know what it is supposed to do, but what does the ! -x mean?
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
2:41 PM
! is NOT
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
Okay, but that file is actually a script that should always exist...
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
oh and -x checks if the file is executable
pretty nifty reference :)
so this if checks if /usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown is not an executable and will exit if true
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
I don't really get the sense behind this then.
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
why?
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
That is part of a file in /etc/pm/power.d/ so it runs whenever I try to shutdown my machine, right?
Wait, I copy it...
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
2:44 PM
seems pretty logical to me. If the file is not executable and the script tries to execute it it would end in an error.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
#!/bin/sh

# Action script ensure that unattended-upgrades is finished
# before a hibernate
#
# Copyright: Copyright (c) 2009 Michael Vogt
# License:   GPL-2
#

PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
SHUTDOWN_HELPER=/usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown

if [ -x /usr/bin/python3 ]; then
    PYTHON=python3
else
    PYTHON=python
fi

if [ ! -x /usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown ]; then
	exit 0
fi

case "${1}" in
        hibernate)
                if [ -e $SHUTDOWN_HELPER ]; then
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
and now it makes even more sense... if this if was not there it would hibernate during an upgrade ;-)
It even says so in the beginning of the file >:-D
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
Yes, okay. I got that part now, I think. And what does "-e" check?
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
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Q: Getting Protocol Error when trying to create a symlink in Docker

Tom HartI'm trying to setup a symlink, using the command ln -s /var/www/data/cache/widget/overlay/ /var/www/public_html/images/overlay, but it outputs ln: failed to create symbolic link '/var/www/public_html/images/overlay': Protocol error. The host OS is Windows 8, and the Docker images is Ubuntu. I be...

ubuntu windows virtual-machine docker
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
That one is not listed in your nifty cheat sheet...
 
A.B.
A.B.
2:48 PM
True if FILE exists.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
Okay, but wouldn't it make more sense to check whether a file exists before I check whether it is executable?
 
A.B.
A.B.
That's a good question
It would make more sense.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
And I don't get the reason why they take the file name once as string and once as variable.
 
A.B.
A.B.
Programmers are also people only =)
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
:-/
 
terdon
terdon
2:50 PM
@ByteCommander No, if the file doesn't exist, it's not executable either. No point in running two tests when one will do.
 
A.B.
A.B.
And the double-quotes also missing.
waaah, sure the "!"
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
I'm going to try and write a shutdown-preventing script for an answer.
@terdon Like the one you gave me for my suspension problem.
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
@ByteCommander "This is a quick reference guide to the meaning of some of the less easily guessed commands and codes. " >:) -e is not one of the less easily guessed commands and codes >:)
 
A.B.
A.B.
But then why do I need the second test (-e)
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
^
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
2:54 PM
@ByteCommander probably 2 different people that worked on this? 1 decided to add at some point the HELPER
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
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Q: Ubuntu automout+NIS startup conflict

Eric RenoufI have an Ubuntu 14.04 system using NIS for login. On startup it seems that automout is starting before NIS, and then not honoring the auto.home NIS pushes out to do NFS for home directories. Restarting autofs doesn't help, but if I kill the automount process it will automatically respawn and t...

ubuntu autofs nis automount
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
@ByteCommander why not mail Michael Vogt >:-)
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
@Rinzwind Nooo... Too lazy.
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
Hey. My webradio crashed.
 
Rinzwind
Rinzwind
2:55 PM
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
o.o
 
terdon
terdon
@ByteCommander Cool, go for it.
 
A.B.
A.B.
Does anyone know which address book "Geary" used?
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
@terdon Seems like pm-utils does not handle shutdowns as I thought...
You think this answer will still work?
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A: How to disable shutdown/reboot/suspend/hibernate?

LanceBayneschmod -x /usr/sbin/pm-suspend chmod -x /sbin/reboot chmod -x /sbin/shutdown

 
terdon
terdon
@ByteCommander It doesn't?
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
3:03 PM
@terdon Only suspend and resume, if I read it correctly...
 
terdon
terdon
@ByteCommander I don't know. And no, that answer will only work for /sbin/shutdown. There are other ways to stop the machine.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
:P
 
A.B.
A.B.
@ByteCommander The idea I had also, but it is pretty brutal.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
Then I probably give up...
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Q: Have Unattended-Upgrade perform check before restarting

KaralgaUnattended-Upgrade upgrades and restarts my machine without any issues. However, I have a python script that runs infrequently, but when it runs it may take days to complete. I would like to suspend automatic reboots while this script runs. What is the easiest way of achieving this?

unattended-upgrades
 
A.B.
A.B.
Why?
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
3:05 PM
^ was the question I tried to do this for... @terdon
@A.B. Too much effort and I am too tired.
I'm in bed with a cold.
 
terdon
terdon
@ByteCommander Yeah, I saw but I don't know how to do it off the top of my head and I'm busy revising an article I have to resubmit soon. I'll try and have a look later but I can't promise anything, I don't know much about that kind of thing.
 
A.B.
A.B.
@ByteCommander I'm sorry, get well soon.
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
@terdon I just saw it when @A.B. showed it around above and remembered your suspend-prevention answer. First I thought that should work similar (especially as there exists a directory power.d), but that was not the case.
 
kos
kos
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Q: Differences between "<command> < /dev/null &> /dev/null & disown" and "nohup <command> & disown"

kosThis is my understanding about the usage of &, disown and nohup: <command>: runs the process within the Terminal's current bash instance, in the foreground (i.e. the process is listed as a bash foreground job and stdin, stdout and stderr are still bound to the terminal); not immune to hangups; <...

command-line bash nohup background-process
Anyone on this one? There's an answer already but I still can't clearly understand the difference
 
terdon
terdon
3:25 PM
@kos Oh, I was writing an answer but got distracted by work. Why do you include <dev/null there? That's not relevant, you seem to be asking what the difference between i) normal ii) background iii) disown and iv) nohup is, right?
If so, all this </dev/null and >/dev/null is completely irrelevant and only confuse the reader.
 
kos
kos
@terdon Yes, it's totally irrelevant, apologies. I'm editing it and yes, that's exactly what my question is about
 
terdon
terdon
I'll need to check and make sure, but the basic idea is that normal execution is in the foreground, tied to your current session. Background lets you do other things but will die if your session is killed. Disown will continue as long as you're logged in and nohup will continue even after you've logged out. I need to check that disown will exit when you log out but I'm pretty sure it will. I know nohup won't.
By the way, how come your name is Kos? Not because of the island by any chance?
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
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Q: ssh terminating immediately with message Terminated

snoopI have tried following command on my local system (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS): $ ssh localhost The authenticity of host 'localhost (127.0.0.1)' can't be established. ECDSA key fingerprint is 11:22:33:44:55:66:77:88:99:00:11:22:33:44:55. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? Terminated ...

ubuntu ssh openssh
 
kos
kos
@terdon Ok thanks, waiting for your answer then. Nope, but somehow related: it's a short for my name which is greek (altough I'm not greek), and it happens to match the island :)
 
terdon
terdon
Konstantinos!
@kos OK, I just checked and my assumption about disown was wrong. I'm now thinking that the main difference is that disown is a shell builtin, so tied to bash while nohup is a separate executable. Apart from portability issues, I have yet to find a difference in what they do.
 
A.B.
A.B.
3:43 PM
Isn't spam
 
kos
kos
@terdon Actually it's Glaukòs. You may know me from greek mythology ;)
@terdon Alright thanks! Add it as answer and I'll accept it
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
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Q: Dotfile not working in current shell, need new one

s g To be clear, this isn't a screen issue, I'm sure it's a general shell issue. On a new Ubuntu 12.04 server, I'm currently logged into a terminal in which I want to run the screen command with my custom ~/.screenrc file. I scp'ed my .rc file to the Ubuntu machine and ran screen, but I can tell tha...

linux bash shell ubuntu terminal
 
terdon
terdon
@kos Just did. By the way, you might want to consider asking that kind of distro-agnostic and more UNIXy question on Unix & Linux. There are people there who know this kind of thing inside and out and could give you a very detailed answer.
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
4:01 PM
^ Me, currently...
 
kos
kos
@terdon You're probably right. Anyway there's still something I can't figure out, why does e.g. nohup watch -n 1 'echo foo' block the shell? I need to hit Ctrl+C to terminate it
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
Oh yeah, and this one:
 
Mateo
Mateo
@RPiAwesomeness sig-figs are awesome!
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
And annoying as heck
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Battery things consideration by RealDeal_Vic on askubuntu.com
 
terdon
terdon
4:28 PM
@kos Because you didn't send it to the background.
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
4:41 PM
@Mateo It's very easy for you to say that, you aren't taking Physics. I got 6 out of 9 problems wrong because I was off by 1 significant figure on 5 of those, and the other one was also a significant figure error, just not 1.
 
kos
kos
@terdon You know probably I'm going to read something very basic on the topic because I keep getting confused. You said in your answer that nohup already disowns the process, so I tried nohup watch -n 1 'echo something' but both this way and by adding & at the end of the command the process is still listed within the bash jobs, so perhaps I am missunderstanding what disown is about?
 
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Q: Unable to load libcrypto.so from my application

void.pointerI use CMake and Ninja to build a test executable of mine written in C++. I use gcc 4.8. I'm on Ubuntu 14. I run CMake to configure the ninja build scripts, then I run ninja to build. I specify the libcrypto.so and other openssl *.so files as target dependencies in the CMake script. When running...

ubuntu shared-library cmake
 
terdon
terdon
@kos How are you listing the jobs?
 
kos
kos
@terdon jobs
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
o/
 
terdon
terdon
4:47 PM
@kos Wha? I don't see that. command & disown removes command from the output of jobs.
Are you using bash?
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
@RPiAwesomeness Significant figures? I loved those :P
It was so much fun that I made a tool for calculating them on my old website.
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
@NathanOsman Well, I did too, up until these last 3-4 modules :P
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
What's the problem?
 
kos
kos
@terdon No, I meant nohup watch -n 1 'echo something' & puts the job in the backgound but doesn't disown it
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
Oh, I've just been off by 1 or 2 significant figures here and there and it's screwing up my answers :P Rest of the math is totally correct, putting it in the right spots in the equations, everything ... except significant figures :P
 
terdon
terdon
4:49 PM
@kos Ah, yes, but try exiting the shell. The job won't stop.
I guess that's the main difference actually. disown works at the shell level while nohup at the system level. It has no knowledge or access to what the shell has listed as jobs, it just makes sure that the job itself is independent.
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
^ favorite scene from the entire movie
 
kos
kos
@terdon Yea true, it's still running. So no reason to use disown after nohup
 
terdon
terdon
No. Only if you want to explicitly remove it from the output of jobs I guess.
 
kos
kos
@terdon Ok now now everything makes much more sense. Thanks for the inputs
 
terdon
terdon
np
 
Mateo
Mateo
5:00 PM
@RPiAwesomeness I was in high school before ;p
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
5:16 PM
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Q: Are driver modules loaded and unloaded automatically?

TimOn Ubuntu 14.04, I found that when I don't plug in my external wireless adapter, its module rt2800usb is still shown in lsmod. when does automatically loading a driver module happen? Is it when the device is connected to the computer, or when the OS boots? when does automatically unloading a ...

linux ubuntu kernel-modules
 
 
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ByteCommander
ByteCommander
6:20 PM
Is there a difference between "apt-get -f install" and "apt-get -f remove"?
 
kos
kos
@ByteCommander tzi.de/~quitex/files/linux_manuals_g04it/… They try to accomplish the same by doing the opposite
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
looking...
@kos Thanks, that is what I expected.
 
kos
kos
6:37 PM
@ByteCommander np
 
Nican
Nican
7:09 PM
@RPiAwesomeness No "hairy baby" part. :(
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
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Q: updates from repo will not work

Joseph SmithI need some guidance with my 1st repo. I created a repo with apache 2.4.7 on Ubuntu 14.04. I can access the repo from the gui but when doing an apt-get with kali I am told the line in source list/etc/apt/sources.list is not known. I used the same format the default repos had and cut and pasted t...

apt apache2 repository
Is this more about Kali (off-topic) or Ubuntu (on-topic)?
 
A.B.
A.B.
What a chatterbox. askubuntu.com/a/612170/367165
Ups, deleted
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
7:30 PM
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Q: Error installing grub in Boot able USB driver?

Prajosh PremdasI want to deliver a Linux tool as a boot able USB stick and so I am trying to create a USB stick with the Ubuntu core. I am following the steps here http://askubuntu.com/questions/67001/what-commands-are-needed-to-install-ubuntu-core But when I run the following command grub-install --root-direc...

linux ubuntu
 
ByteCommander
ByteCommander
Sometimes those images just don't want to show themselves...
 
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