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1:23 AM
The Ubuntu SDK is nice, but horribly buggy. I try to cancel a download and end up freezing Qt Creator. What's worse is that the download continues even after killing Qt Creator. So I have to open a terminal up and kill the downloading process myself.
 
@NathanOsman @hbdgaf , got a preliminary swap out of stuff on the scope code.launchpad.net/~mateo-salta/+junk/utfeed . Right now I'm trying to get it to just search for feeds using this: developers.google.com/feed/v1/jsondevguide#resultJson , then I can hopefully add stuff bit by bit. I'm missing something, not sure if it's phrasing the json, or telling the scope what to display
@NathanOsman :/ , that's not good... I haven’t had as much problems with it
 
What's really weird is that my emulator seems to have disappeared.
I created one a while back and now it doesn't show up anywhere anymore.
 
yikes
 
When I go to create a new one, it begins downloading the images again.
 
I like the desktop display for the scopes
that would be a pain to have to set up the kits and stuff again
 
1:59 AM
hm, maybe I deleted something that was needed... maybe I'll start from something simpler
 
 
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3:35 AM
Sorry, I had to do that.
I went through all of the trouble of getting VNC and Chrome set up on the server.
 
Figured I might as well run a speed test.
 
:D
love that ping.
 
Unfortunately, Qt Creator won't run over VNC:
Qt Quick 2 requires GLX.
And apparently, VNC provides no software fallback.
 
What version of Xubuntu is that?
 
3:41 AM
The latest one in the 14.10 repositories.
I'll check what the actual version is.
 
really?
 
I just provisioned the server about 20 minutes ago :P
4.10 apparently.
 
huh
When I run Xubuntu 14.04/14.10 the dock at the bottom isn't there..
I assumed they removed it from the default setup.
 
Weird.
Here's the disk benchmark for my server:
Avg. Read: 2.9 GB/s
That's just insane.
 
hm, 138 lines of code in 4 days. Not exactly what I would call stellar.
 
3:56 AM
@NathanOsman GIVE ME THAT INTERNET
 
And the disk too?
1 min ago, by Nathan Osman
Avg. Read: 2.9 GB/s
 
@NathanOsman Wow.
 
I'm happy with just that internet.
 
Now you know why I love Digital Ocean :P
 
Unless... You are speedtesting against localhost!
You evil...
 
3:57 AM
Time to spin this guy down. It completely failed to do what I needed (run Qt Creator).
 
I can has it?
 
It's a virtual server.
 
oh.
 
...and it's gone.
 
okay. digitalocean is way too expensive for what you get.
 
3:58 AM
$5/m for what I just showed you?
 
20GB of hard drive space.
with less than 1GB of RAM.
 
That's reasonable for a server.
If you need to do a lot of archiving, Amazon Glacier is the way to go.
 
You try running a large Minecraft server on that.
 
One word: swap.
The disks are fast enough to make that tolerable.
 
That hard drive space is puny for a large Minecraft server
 
4:01 AM
I'll never understand Minecraft then.
 
My tiny server of 3 users takes up 1.2GB of space
 
1.2GB is nowhere near 20GB.
 
0.4GB / user + swap (of 8GB)?
 
How many users do you need to have?
 
support up to 150
We can assume that each user takes up at most 0.4GB of space (constant) and 100MB of RAM (when online). The server itself takes 256MB of HDD space and 500MB of RAM
 
4:04 AM
WHAT DOES THE GAME NEED SO MUCH SPACE FOR?
 
Storing every single block discovered by a player.
 
So if each block requires one byte of storage, each player needs to be able to store 400 million blocks?
 
Each minecraft "chunk" (how data is stored) is made up of 65000 blocks.
Just walking within 256 blocks of a chunk "discovers" it and loads it.
 
When I was a kid, we had Lego. And you can be sure we didn't have 65,000 blocks of it.
 
Each block takes up at least 64 bytes to 4KB of HDD space.
At least 1 million bytes per chunk
With each chunk being 1MB, just walking to a new area creates 32MB of space.
If something is built or destroyed anywhere within that 256-block radius, all of those chunks are stored in permanent memory.
(Otherwise, it is just stored in RAM)
 
4:09 AM
Needs some optimization.
 
Now that Microsoft bought it...
GUESS WHAT. Each block contains 32GB of data! Permanent!
The optimization is that only modified chunks are stored in the hard drive.
 
I never could figure out what the goal of the game was... :P
 
There is no goal.
 
No wonder I never found it.
 
Also, how is it easy to optimize Java? (Why did I originally say PHP?)
 
4:13 AM
Good point.
 
oh well.
 
4:42 AM
@Seth: I found some screenshots from the old troubleshooter:
Jan 11 '13 at 4:33, by George Edison
user image
(There's a couple more that follow that one.)
 
oh nice.
Thank you @NathanOsman
Jan 11 '13 at 4:33, by iSeth
ooh, ahhh KDE :)
lol
Reading back through the transcripts is always so much fun.
 
Yeah.
user image
6
I've always loved that one.
 
hahahaha, I remember :)
 
4:57 AM
@NathanOsman That breaks physics.
 
So you're the guy that left the poor review for it on Amazon :P
 
Yep
i want it doe
 
Basically, it's a small space heater. All it would do is convert some of the energy from your battery into heat :P
 
NO MORE PAYING POWER BILLS
 
Wow, so many people around back in the day.
 
5:03 AM
What would happen if I hooked up my washing machine power input to my server?
 
@Seth Yeah, I can't believe I'm that old.
My first message 1,515 days ago:
Sep 29 '10 at 17:20, by George Edison
Is this the new place to hang out?
:)
 
No, this is the place to
 
@NathanOsman I didn't even come around for another two years :)
Well, didn't get active for two years.
 
I can watch this all day:
 
It tiles too.
 
5:12 AM
the person who makes a working perpetual motion machine gets all the monies.
0
Q: What version of ubuntu

jerry kadlubWhat version of emphasized textubuntustrong text can I use for a emphasized textDell Dimension 3000 celeron 2.40GHz with 512mb ramstrong text

Unclear or Dupe?
 
dupe
 
i did
 
someone really messed up their formatting though.
 
ARGH.
Ran out of space on /var.
 
ouch, that isn't fun.
 
5:21 AM
wow. i'm the only non-mod here.
i feel lonely.
 
I see two non mods :)
 
active*
 
mods are just normal users anyway, most of the time.
 
Time to grab the LiveCD and do some resizing. See you all in a few minutes...
 
FlackBot, are you useful?
 
5:25 AM
anyone know how to "show all previous messages" in skype?
 
select convo
 
oh got it.
thanks.
 
show messages from ...
they need rep-trading in chat.
like /giverep Seth 10
/giverep <toUser> <amount>
@Seth Would I get into trouble if I put a Dogecoin bot on this chat?
 
um.. probably somewhat.
but I can't say for sure.
 
i'll refrain then
that'd be cool, though.
Wow. I am now the only non-mod in chat. Woo.
(FlackBot doesn't count)
 
jrg
5:33 AM
wait flackbot is back?
somehow missed that
 
@jrg He's not back, just lurking.
 
jrg
@Seth ah, ok.
 
lol, I knew "ah, ok" would be your message before I tabbed back ;P
 
jrg
lol
 
/me CSSes myself a blue name so I don't feel lonely
 
jrg
5:34 AM
i'm a laid back guy. if flackbot isn't causing trouble, i'm ok with that.
i can't see colors - thanks f.lux.
everything is this tint of orange right now
 
you got f.lux working in Ubuntu?
Currently I'm using redshift but f.lux works so much better.
(In windows anyway)
 
jrg
no. the only ubuntu boxes I have are VMs anymore. :(
(and servers. have a physical server)
 
:(
 
jrg
I mean, I spend half my day inside Ubuntu on VMWare. guess that counts, right?
 
yes, it does ;)
hmm, gettext, how doth I use thee?
 
5:40 AM
I NEED ONE
NOW
 
jrg
@Whaaaaaat that is an amazing thing.
have you see it?
 
i'm watching one now
That's why I want one
 
Back now.
/var has some more free space once again.
Here we go again... retrieving the packages for the Ubuntu Touch chroot.
All 300+ MB. For the second time.
Our Internet company is warning us about going over our cap (30GB) for the month.
I'm not sure how we managed to eat up 30GB on a 128 KB/s connection, but okay.
 
Give me a launchpad NOW.
I wonder if I can teach my keyboard to do that.
 
jrg
@NathanOsman good luck!
 
5:47 AM
It seems legit - DD-WRT is showing me the graphs for the last few months.
 
jrg
@NathanOsman you would go through that in 2 days, 17 hours.
 
@NathanOsman We did that once.
Verizon was complaining about us going over our data cap. I set up a DD-WRT audit
We used 3GB, they charged us for 15.
 
That's November so far.
 
well, I got distracted.
 
I wonder what I did on the 12th...
 
jrg
5:49 AM
@NathanOsman i need to do traffic graphs... no clue how much data i go through at home (or work)
 
I was watching that a few minutes ago.
 
I need to start using my cell connection more often.
 
well I'm off to bed folks.
 
@Seth Goodnight.
 
 
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7:28 AM
omfg.
i hate ebay so much.
 
7:48 AM
 
8:20 AM
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A: Can I install Desktop-Environment from distro's iso file?

PandyaThe command dpkg-repack can help you by following way: First List packages required for installing Desktop-Environment (Here example for xubuntu-desktop: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop -s | grep Inst | cut -d " " -f 2 | sort > file1 Above command writes required packages' list for xub...

 
 
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9:25 AM
I bountied a question and then found the answer myself a couple hours later :|
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Q: Why I can't start demo application on ubuntu-touch emulator

NymeriaI just created a new ubuntu touch emulator (ubuntu 14.10 sdk i386 devel). Check device image version.. X86 Emulator aosp_x86 generic_x86 243 i386 I have a default QML code : import QtQuick 2.0 import Ubuntu.Components 1.1 /*! \brief MainView with a Label and Button elements. */ Mai...

So much for the 100 rep... :P
 
9:43 AM
It's 1:43am... why am I still up...
 
 
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1:22 PM
I think that's the first time I've seen the smoke-detector misfire.
 
1:55 PM
nah it is wrong more often :P
 
I don't doubt it. I just don't see all of them.
 
Oli
2:11 PM
@terdon Is blindly killing a process much better? If it is, pkill would make it a better answer but apt* might be mid-package-configuration or in a stalled update (which, no, wouldn't be as bad)... The answer the question needs is a flow chart of how to work out what's happening. Kill then delete are both in the "if nothing else works" category.
 
@Oli Not at all! My answer would be "Figure out what is running, where it is running and react appropriately".
In my experience, 90% of the times I've seen that message, I just had an open synaptic window on another workspace.
I don't know which would be worse: killing the process or removing the lockfile but I would recommend doing neither blindly.
 
Oli
I guess just deleting the lock means that if apt is running, it probably will munch your status. At least if you kill it, you're insulating yourself against the old instance. The new apt instance will have to fix the current status before progressing.
 
I honestly don't know what the adverse consequences of deleting a lock file could be. I've done so in cases where I knew there were no running instances and it has never been a problem but deleting it while it's running to then allow a parallel apt to run sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Is it not?
 
Why not something like: lsof | grep /var/lib/dpkg/lock then? The only time I've had to deal with an apt lock is when I was inside of a not stalled update that I backgrounded and forgot about while tweaking something or when something was unceremoniously nuked by power loss.
At least then you know if something is actually holding on to it or not. Or does the family of utilities just drop the file and not hold it open?
 
Yeah, that makes sense too. What I didn't like was the fact that the most upvoted answer was "just sudo delete the lockfile". That seems like spectacularly bad advice.
 
2:23 PM
And it is.
What about changing Seth's edit a little bit to disambiguate the other answers is actually two links with something like other answers ([1](), [2]())?
@Seth ^^
 
3:29 PM
@hbdgaf Go for it.
 
hello everyone!
hi Seth!
 
Hello
 
I got a new laptop (\o/)
and... I can't disable the trackpad while typing
no option found in the settings :(
I am pretty sure I have seen one on another laptop
 
sigh
 
but I can't find it...
 
3:32 PM
thank you gnome people.
 
and googling doesn't help :(
@Seth ?
 
@AwalGarg install dconf-editor first.
 
kk
 
Now wait while I turn on my computer :-P
 
done
ok
 
3:35 PM
check for function keys to toggle the touchpad and a hardware switch. every laptop i've ever had, has both.
 
a quick search for touchpad, and the key saying "disable while typing" is checked...
 
you have to disable it manually once. then enable it manually once. there's no magic delay since last key-struck built in to the hardware.
 
ok, lemme try
 
@AwalGarg oh just some linux politics stuff.
ok, computer on.
 
ok
 
3:36 PM
looking.
 
yay
 
Try:
gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.touchpad disable-while-typing true
 
gah. i wasn't aware gnome had a thing for that.
 
@Seth :( didn't work... i tried that before as well, btw
 
pretty sure all the hooks are still there, but you know the GNOME people.. "let's remove the checkbox!"
@AwalGarg k, half expected because it doesn't appear to be working for me either.
 
3:38 PM
ok
 
@Seth - might be working on X11 but not wayland/mir
 
huh, looks like the option is still there:
 
also, vertical and horizontal scrolling, and dragging and selecting as well doesn't work... :(
@Seth I can't find that, hold on, I will post the screenshot
 
i'll take what i get, but i also don't expect anything to work. so I'm sort of a corner case.
 
@hbdgaf that's possible, but I know I'm not running Mir and I rather doubt Awal is too. I don't believe it is the default yet.
 
3:41 PM
@Seth that doesn't mean wayland isn't in play.
 
well if it doesn't work it should probably be reported as a bug.
 
@Seth this is true...
 
@hbdgaf I didn't think wayland even worked well enough to use ..?
 
the kwin team had wayland usable.
 
3:42 PM
@AwalGarg What version of Ubuntu are you running?
@hbdgaf Oh, nice.
 
14.04 lts
Should I post the output of xinput -list?
 
oh 14.04..
huh.
@AwalGarg sure
 
awal@bookstro:~$ xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ DLL0651:00 06CB:2985                    	id=11	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Logitech Dell Wireless Mouse WM123      	id=14	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Logitech Dell Wireless Mouse WM123      	id=15	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard             	id=5	[slave  keyboard (3)]
@Seth ^
 
huh,
it does work
when "disable while typing" is checked I can move the pointer but I can't click.
@AwalGarg Is that what you are expected or do you expect the pointer to stop moving as well? --^
 
i can both click and double click :( Do you think it could be a hardware issue?
 
3:46 PM
ehh, it's possible. Let me fire up a 14.04 VM, hang on.
 
@Seth moving is fine, i just want it to disable clicks and double clicks
nice thanks :)
 
woo, I just missed some things left behind from the example, I have my scope building - now it 404's on the uri, getting closer!
 
@Mateo good luck mateo, it could eventually build in to an epic scope
 
hopefully, I think I just need to form the address right, thankfully it looks like the error output shows what it was trying to send, so I should be able to tweak it to work
thoughts on the design so far:
 
Yep, doesn't work @AwalGarg. Found a bug, but it doesn't look like it is getting much love: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/…
Try some of the workarounds provided in the comments.
Or you can upgrade to 14.10.
 
3:53 PM
ohh
 
yesterday, by hbdgaf
In other news, every time someone says we're too hard on bug questions here, I'm tempted to refer them to the KDE/Kwin/Wayland bug policy which reads as follows: I found a bug, what should I do?
Open your text editor, fix it and open a review request on Review Board.
 
Make sure you mark the bug as "affecting you" :)
 
@Mateo Nice. I'ld go ahead and put in the split pane so you have the harder part done and you can just extend it.
 
@hbdgaf wud try ;p
 
Umm, @Seth any chance of refunding a bounty for me? I offered one here a couple of hours ago but the OP has since decided that my answer works and accepted it.
It is also the highest scoring answer there. Not sure what will happen if I let the bounty expire. Perhaps it will come back to me automatically?
 
3:55 PM
@Seth sure
 
@terdon No it won't come back, but I'm not sure about the policy on refunding bounties. Pretty sure that is only for edge cases, but I will look into it.. Or you can, I suppose ;)
No rush right? I have some other stuff that needs doing first.
 
@Mateo looks good :)
 
@Seth the workarounds in the comments didn't work (as they didn't for another user in the comments)... I have marked it as affecting me :) Is there any way I can atleast have horizontal and vertical scrolling enabled for now? (and select and dragging...)
 
@Seth Absolutely none.
 
4:01 PM
@Seth I'll work on that part more once something actually works ;p
 
And yeah, I'm not sure about the policy either. The bounty was offered in good faith, I was not expecting to get it back.
But then he accepted mine so I'm confused.
 
@AwalGarg Poke around in org -> gnome -> settings daemon -> peripherals -> touchpad in dconf editor.
Gotta run now.
 
ok.
Thank you very much @Seth :)
 
@terdon That's why I'm taking the hit. You're more active than me. I'm more of a low and slow player after my first surge.
 
@hbdgaf Oh good heavens, I don't mind loosing 100rep that much! Thanks, but that wasn't necessary at all!
 
4:04 PM
Well, some people are compelled/impelled to do the right thing.
 
:)
Very noble of you in any case. Thanks :)
 
Np. And, it's fine. It's just a thing. It's how people know I'm not a total ass... the doing things like that bit. I can be REALLY harsh, but I can also do those other things.
 
Balancing out your karma huh? :P
 
I'm walking karmic zero
I've always been that way, and it's how I deal with some of the things I do.
 
4:27 PM
I'm waiting for the winterBash and then elections.
 
and now it's not phrasing the json
Unable to add overview scope, can't find with ID: "scopes"
RegistryObject::ScopeProcess::exec(): Process for scope: "com.ubuntu.developer.mateo-salta.utfeed_utfeed" started
ScopeBase::run(): unity::InvalidArgumentException: CategoryRenderer(): invalid JSON definition:
    unity::ResourceException: Failed to parse json string: * Line 12, Column 17
  Missing '}' or object member name
Which line 12? :/
 
4:40 PM
@Mateo which lang is this?
seems like Perl
 
that is an error message, C++ phrasing JSON and there is qt in there or something
trying to make a ubuntu touch scope
 
@AvinashRaj Dupe?
 
Anyone here?
I'm having trouble upgrading
I have followd the steps in this question askubuntu.com/questions/140246/… without success
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade gets me:
> Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
linux-generic : Depends: linux-headers-generic (= 3.2.0.58.69) but 3.2.0.70.84 is installed
linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-58-generic but it is not installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
Then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f gets me:
> Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
linux-generic linux-image-generic
2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/4146 B of archives.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 
4:56 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy how'd you manage that? What Ubuntu is this?
Have you run apt-get -f install as suggested?
 
@terdon /etc/issue says Ubuntu 12.04.5
@terdon Yes, it errors as well, let me paste the result
 
OK
 
> $ sudo apt-get -f install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
linux-headers-3.2.0-56 linux-headers-3.2.0-56-generic
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
linux-generic linux-image-generic
The following packages will be upgraded:
linux-generic linux-image-generic
2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
apt-get autoremove doesn't help me either
> $ sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
linux-generic : Depends: linux-headers-generic (= 3.2.0.58.69) but 3.2.0.70.84 is installed
linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-58-generic but it is not installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
 
OK, I think that the problem here is that linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic are meta packages that bring in the most recent versions of linux-headers and image.
 
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