Game Development

But surprisingly, they didn't go down for it. It went to a technical level, and after they proved all their solvents and additives were approved, they got off the hook.

Matt Jens Jensen

10:13 AM

It's just a weird political state we're in right now

Just the whole federal government and state and local goverment having conflicting laws and organizations

MickLH

It's good for me in a way though: The common hydrocarbons are off-limits, which basically shuts out 99% of the jackasses who would have hacked together some piece of shit leaky system made of PVC and duct tape

So it filters down the people to only those who can afford a real system, and filters away most engineers who would be willing to work on one

I mean... That sounds bad, I'm not against DIY'ers and at-home hackers

But I am very against doing it wrong.

Matt Jens Jensen

That's a quality only professionals have, and it's extremely important

It's important to do it right or not do it at all

user92578

10:48 AM

I made something really quickly!

user92578

GunHero Level Creation Timelapse

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4

Matt Jens Jensen

11:18 AM

Mate, I just gotta say, I love your shit

Jon

11:38 AM

That's some disturbing imagery right there

Matt Jens Jensen

Can GameDev moderators IP ban people? There's this question asked on a fresh account that's nearly identical to another question asked yesterday by a fresh account that got closed for being wildly off topic.

user92578

Yeah they can

user92578

But it's really easy to circumvent

Matt Jens Jensen

Yeah but it's like, what the fuck? Why couldn't he just ask it somewhere that it's relevant

What pissed me off the most "Looking for quick response from here. Thanks."

Like what? You're asking people to answer an off topic question and do your work for you, and make it snappy.

Jon

11:54 AM

Gamedev is not glamorous

People think making a game is a fucken joke

Matt Jens Jensen

Gamedev is honestly the hardest job I've ever had, with websites, apps, financial shit, and everything I worked hard, make things i was satisfied with and got paid for it. Game development has been my dream for more than a decade now and I still haven't made something I'm proud of and I haven't made a buck of it despite putting in hours nearly every free moment I get

Jon

Tell a girl you write games

She will think you are useless

user92578

^

Matt Jens Jensen

Oh mate, I've already made the commitment to shun women and spend the rest of my life trying to make a game I'm proud of

hahaha

Jon

My father still thinks I repair computers all day

There are people that have zero concept of what programming is

One girl I met online thought I programmed TV shows

Matt Jens Jensen

12:00 PM

There are people that that think programming is learning Javascript on Kahn Academy

Which is worse

Jon

I dodged a bullet with her total nut job

She is a speaker for faith healing or some bullshit

user92578

@MattJensJensen Yeah, I do this too :D

Jon

You've said enough. Have a nice life. Bye.

Matt Jens Jensen

"faith healing"

That's the first indicator you need to get the fuck out of there

Jon

So many crazy women on those dating sites

Matt Jens Jensen

12:02 PM

I learned that the hard way

user92578

Luckily they're going to start teaching all kids programming in schools here

Jon

Another one asked about babies before our date

Matt Jens Jensen

I... what.

Jon

She didn't want to waste her time if I didn't want babies

I cancelled the date

Matt Jens Jensen

That's a fairly smart move, people that tend to get ahead of themselves in their thoughts tend to get ahead of themselves in their actions

Jon

12:09 PM

Man, Overwatch is killing it

Matt Jens Jensen

It looks fantastic

DH.

I'm hyped towards Outlast 2

Matt Jens Jensen

Will Outlast 2 be multiplayer?

I have no clue what Overwatch is about

but it looks amazing

DH.

Ofc not lol

Overwatch is a FPS game, online only

It's like Team Fortress 2 in it's essence, because you have all sort of characters and maps with different objectives

Matt Jens Jensen

Plus lots of really detailed character models that make you feel sexually confused

'33 percent of respondents thought that non-GMO tomatoes "did not contain genes" and 32 percent thought that "vegetables did not have DNA." So there's that.'

DH.

12:18 PM

The conclusion is that now we know that at least 33% of the population is stupid

If this research were made here in Brazil the number would probably be far higher

Matt Jens Jensen

Well... in the same study 80% of people they asked wanted the government to label all food that contained DNA

What food doesn't contain DNA?

Like, what a small tiny portion of food has absolutely no DNA?

DH.

IDK, maybe candies that don't rely on sugar, something completely artificial is hard to think of

Matt Jens Jensen

I don't consider that food

DH.

You can't, or at least shouldn't lunch those things but at least it's edible :P

Matt Jens Jensen

Aspartame is "edible" but you'll die if that's all you eat

DH.

12:24 PM

Yeah that's what I meant, you can't rely only on those to eat

Matt Jens Jensen

No, I agree

Looking forward to pissing myself becaue of Overwatch 2 though.

DH.

You probably meant Outlast 2 :P

Matt Jens Jensen

Oh goddamnit

Yes, I did

user92578

:D

Almo

@MattJensJensen people think winter is because of the earth's elliptical orbit, too.

Matt Jens Jensen

12:36 PM

@Almo I personally believe that winter is caused by the Coca Cola Polar Bear shitting snow in the sky

user92578

Doot - E1M1 [Knee-Deep in the Doot]

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Jon

Winter is because Jesus goes on vacation every year and his warm love is too far away

Matt Jens Jensen

Doot so hard motherfuckers wanna find me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMICTAl4LCg&feature=youtu.be&t=39s

Jon

12:59 PM

I'm waiting on my new keyboard and mouse before I finish doot

Matt Jens Jensen

How long must one wait?

Jon

Shipped yesterday

Probably Monday

Matt Jens Jensen

The anticipation is deadly

Jon

Oh shit

Says it will arrive tomorrow

Nice

Now I have real gamer gear and I'm gonna kill all those noobs with shitty business level gear hahahahaha

No longer must I depend on my skills alone

Matt Jens Jensen

I miss gaming, I haven't played a game in a couple weeks

Leggy7

1:15 PM

I sometimes play a match on hearthstone

is freaking comfortable the mobile version

I could play in the morning while taking a shit

Matt Jens Jensen

That's the main reason mobile games were invented

Jon

Hearthstone, can't win if you don't pay for the better carda

Leggy7

bullshit, you can't win cuz you bad

never bought anything

just play and play and at some points you can purchase packs with points

Matt Jens Jensen

Hearthstone does have balance issues with new decks having unbalanced power

Jon

I'd have to play 1000 hours to get the cards people buy

Leggy7

1:22 PM

yes, despite they're actually trying to fix it

Jon

The game favours paying players way too much for me

Matt Jens Jensen

They're making a pretty penny from it

Leggy7

sure they are, idea is genial

started from low budget

low blizzard budget

Matt Jens Jensen

"genial"

Are you italian, german, or french? hahah

Leggy7

eheheh

italian :)

sorry

blush

Matt Jens Jensen

1:25 PM

No no, it's english but I only ever hear europeans use it in conversation

I didn't even know genial was english until recently, I always figured it was german

Leggy7

not properly a false friend but it sounds like it :)

Jon

I'm Italian too

My grandmother is Italian

user92578

my grandmother was an uruk hai

Jon

From Lord of the rings?

user92578

yes.

Matt Jens Jensen

1:32 PM

No, I'm pretty sure that Lord of the Rings was based on finish people

user92578

Yes

Jon

Lifehack. Don't have a selfie stick? Why not kill yourself?

Matt Jens Jensen

That escalated quickly

Jon

So Microsoft just killed Nokia

Matt Jens Jensen

Oh?

Jon

1:35 PM

And their mobile game

Glad I never bothered supporting win phones

Matt Jens Jensen

I was required to have iPhone, I wish I had a Tizen

Jon

Iphones are for schmucks

Matt Jens Jensen

Thanks mate

I mean, I agree

but

DH.

1:51 PM

What's so good about Tizen?

Matt Jens Jensen

I'm a simple man, I want phone calls and SMS out a phone and I want it to be programmed in C++

Jon

TIL vampires suck blood for vitamin D

Matt Jens Jensen

From where?

Today I learned Australia had a war against Emus

Emu War

The Emu War, also known as the Great Emu War, was a nuisance wildlife management military operation undertaken in Australia over the latter part of 1932 to address public concern over the number of emus said to be running amok in the Campion district of Western Australia. The unsuccessful attempts to curb the population of emus, a large flightless bird indigenous to Australia, employed soldiers armed with Lewis guns—leading the media to adopt the name "Emu War" when referring to the incident. == Background == Following World War I, large numbers of ex-soldiers from Australia, along with a number...

Jon

Yeah it was crazy

Matt Jens Jensen

straya scares me

DH.

2:08 PM

I think about it, how grandpas tell their grandchild "Oh I have fought in the Emu War, so much feathers and blooshed"

Matt Jens Jensen

Two grandfathers

The Emu War was fought by two men with machine guns

genaray

Hey guys, im trying to send position updates of 50entitys over udp to a other client. I dont wanna send it every tick only every 50 ms or something like that, whats the best way todo that ?

Matt Jens Jensen

Mate, take the state change delta and broadcast that if you're looking to do it dead simple

genaray

So i only need something like a timer for it ? Is it that simple ?

Matt Jens Jensen

Not quite, networking really depends on the type of game, what kind of game is it?

genaray

2:13 PM

A "duengon crawler"

Matt Jens Jensen

Is it realtime or turn based? Physics involved? Using an engine?

genaray

Physics are involved, yes ^^ But only collision stuff. Not any engine, totally written in java and libgdx. Its also realtime :)

Matt Jens Jensen

Oh mate, realtime networked collisions is a pretty big topic on its own, and to roll it your own especially. Just read Gaffer on Games: gafferongames.com/networking-for-game-programmers

Literally the entire blog

genaray

Ok thanks man :)

Matt Jens Jensen

I appologize if my answer sounds like a homework assignment, but honestly, if you've never done networking for a realtime game before, you really are in for a lot of work

genaray

2:26 PM

>.< I think i dont need to read all the blogs, i already made it to send the positions ^^ The problem is that its being sended every tick, so the game on the host machine runs very laggy >.<

Almo

what matt said

Matt Jens Jensen

Telling your client the state of things every 50ms without any client side simulation, interpolation, or prediction is going to be worse than not having networking at all

Almo

yeah that's totally not an option

Matt Jens Jensen

At best, your game looks like it's running at 18 FPS

Almo

networks suck ass

droppin packets and shit

Matt Jens Jensen

2:29 PM

At worse, you just got into a fist fight with a cactus

Plus UDP is unordered

so you could get old packets overwiting more recent state

Networking is so difficult that most AAA studios don't even have done really well

Especially not when ping shoots up

genaray

Thats right, i thought using udp, because i heard that udp would be very good for "position updates" and stuff like that.But Tcp is much more reliable.

Matt Jens Jensen

TCP has many more layers of validation and session management, but comes with a latency cost

tkausl

you can implement your own reliable stream on top of udp

Matt Jens Jensen

at the very least you can start with a frame counter to prevent old state from fucking your new state, but still, you've got a lot to do before networking looks good in a realtime game with physics

genaray

Thats a good idea, ill gonna try that. Why is networking so "hard" ... it sounds so easy :P

user92578

2:35 PM

...

Matt Jens Jensen

You're coordinating two massively complicated realtime software applications with many subsystems in realtime

So, it's hard in theory and in practice

And every single part of the internet is a complicated and flimsy system barely hanging on by a thread

Almo

@genaray it doesn't sound easy if you know what it really means

@genaray must use UDP

must NOT use TCP

Jon

Use UDP

Almo

TCP is ok if your game is turn-based.

Jon

Deal with dropped packets

Almo

2:41 PM

But for realtime UDP is absolutely a must.

Jon

Timestamps

Matt Jens Jensen

or if you're really edgy you can just use IP

Almo

hahaha

TheMuffinCoder

hey guys, I just noticed

Jon

You really can't

TheMuffinCoder

2:41 PM

There should be a code typing game, so that you can improve your speed writing code

Almo

I don't think so

speed of typing is the least of your worries when coding

TheMuffinCoder

Yea I know, it's all about the quality

Almo

spending time to think and plan out your code before starting is more important

TheMuffinCoder

But it would be more fun than typing quotes like here play.typeracer.com

Almo

Bill Gates said "Measure programming output by lines of code per day is like measure airplane manufacturing by weight of planes produced per day"

Matt Jens Jensen

2:42 PM

There are plenty of decent typing games

TheMuffinCoder

@MattJensJensen care to share? :D

Almo

Typing of the Dead and Epistory come to mind.

Typing of the Dead is fucking fun man

one of my favorite games

Matt Jens Jensen

store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/246580

TheMuffinCoder

I'm at school and can only use chrome :P so I play typing games

Matt Jens Jensen

You beat me to it mate

Almo

2:43 PM

:)

TheMuffinCoder

lol Steam is blocked

Almo

TotD is fun on a LAN two player co-op

Matt Jens Jensen

Es tut me so leid

TheMuffinCoder

Any others?

Matt Jens Jensen

Honestly nothing more than Typing of the Dead comes to mind

Typing.io was made for programmers specifically

You're a good person in my book if you learn to type by typing the entirety of the linux kernel

Jon

2:48 PM

Typing of the dead is the only good typing game

Matt Jens Jensen

Does the world really need more than one good typing game?

Martin Sojka

I don't know, I like Project LRNJ too. Though I doubt it'll help you learn typing skills for coding.

Matt Jens Jensen

vimadventure teaches VIM movements in a JRPG

Almo

3:03 PM

Epistory is a good typing game

I found it fun

:(

kotaku.com/the-warcraft-movie-is-not-good-1778550679

Looks like Duncan Jones may have managed to make a not-so-good movie.

Matt Jens Jensen

Mate, it's fucking Kotaku, why not just wait to see it?

Almo

Because given what I know about Hollywood, given what the writer said about it, it sounds like he's got it spot on and it's probably bad.

Matt Jens Jensen

I mean, yeah, it's probably terrible

But Gawker media group isn't exactly the most reliable source of news

Almo

which is why I read what he had to say, checked it against what I've seen happen with franchise movies in the past, and it sounds reasonable. :)

Matt Jens Jensen

Your logic passes the test

which also saddens me

Almo

3:16 PM

:D

DH.

Damn

Matt Jens Jensen

Warcraft had a great story

DH.

I was hoping that at least the history would be good

Matt Jens Jensen

I miss vanilla wow

Almo

"Even when the Warcraft games get dark, and they do get dark, they’ve always been adept at having fun with their players. The film does no such thing. If only this movie had the charm of a Warcraft unit who’s been clicked too many times."

Matt Jens Jensen

3:17 PM

Shit

Almo

his core complaint is that it takes itself too seriously.

It's a bummer, but he really does sound right. :)

I may still see it, but I might wait till netflix.

I played a ton of Warcraft III

I thought the Arthas story was pretty solid.

DH.

But the goddamn hisotry of the first war wasn't happy, neither had an happy ending

Matt Jens Jensen

That's how I felt about Star Wars, but I couldn't resist, and paid the $9

Almo

I saw the new starwars in IMAX

I'm glad I saw it. It was by no means a great film, but it didn't drag, and I wasn't bored.

Matt Jens Jensen

I thought the film had a far too micro focus on small scenes with very little meaning or substance

Almo

3:20 PM

but STOP MAKING BIG SPHERICAL WEAPONS

Matt Jens Jensen

And an attempt at fanservice

Almo

hahaha

yeah, I'd agree with the fanservice comment

Matt Jens Jensen

And it seemed like a fucking parody of itself

Really? Another bigger death star? cool... Han solo action scenes.. uh.. I guess?

DH.

I wonder how they got the time to build a bigger death star with no one noticing

Almo

hahaha

Matt Jens Jensen

3:22 PM

And how exactly did a manchild with the temperament of a 12 year old with no composure become the fucking leader of the Ren?

That's the best the sith could come up with?

Almo

hahah

since Empire Strikes Back, the whole starwars universe has been short on real evil.

the whole anakin story was botched all to hell

DH.

He was the only one of the padawans of Skywalker that liked to beat his friends

Almo

ewoks ruined episode 6

han solo became comedy relief in Ep 6

so many things so many things

Matt Jens Jensen

The movie just fell so short for wonderful history

Then again, the downward spiral started with The Phantom Menace

user4704

I enjoyed 7, I have very few real issues with it.

Matt Jens Jensen

3:28 PM

I enjoyed it, but I expected more after such a long wait

Rey is absolutely fantastic though

DH.

What made me really surprised was that a Empire soldier could ever be a deserter or a traitor

Matt Jens Jensen

Not a clone

Different soldiers

DH.

Yeah I know that they aren't clones anymore

Matt Jens Jensen

No longer empire's old methods

Plus, new writers, new methods

DH.

But still, they got a full doctrine to serve the Empire and no family stuff

Almo

3:31 PM

new methods... new machines... new products.

DH.

And MOAR MONEY

Almo

meat beat manifesto, book of shadows

►

about 15 seconds in

Matt Jens Jensen

What the fuck am I listening to?

Almo

you'll hear the new methods new machiens new products sample

plus some "music" shows up after the weird intro

and that's the wrong album art, this track is from Actual Sounds and Voices, not Subliminal Sandwich

l--''''''---------'''''''''''', HJSI

13.2k 161 425 733

sql c# sql-server vba vb.net sql-server-2008 .net

Matt Jens Jensen

I... you're a good man

Almo

3:34 PM

hehehe

Jon

Hodor

DH.

This is morse code?

Matt Jens Jensen

A combination of attempted ironic SQL injection and drunken account creation?

My lighthouses keep turning on randomly and it's the creepiest thing I've ever seen

buzzing and whining noise while red glow appears

Valve needs to work on their drivers

Almo

doesn't look like morse code

DH.

Lighthouses? What kind of lighthouse?

Almo

3:41 PM

-- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / .-.. --- --- -.- ... / .-.. .. -.- . / - .... .. ...

Matt Jens Jensen

HTC Vive calls their infrared grid emitters lighhouses

DH.

Ohhh OK, didn't know that

Matt Jens Jensen

Vive is cool as shit and fun to develop in, but very buggy drivers right now

And the compositor is missing on Linux

DH.

Well, that's why this is a dev kit release right? :P

Matt Jens Jensen

No, I have the production Vive now

Hardware itself is pretty good, no issues I can complain about besides terrible resolution

DH.

3:43 PM

Oh shit

Matt Jens Jensen

If they had included 25-50% more pixels it'd be perfect

Dominic Hughes

Allright so I'm trying to implement ray picking since color buffer picking seems way to slow for what Id like at least..

So far I think , I need to get mouse pixel cordinates when mouse is clicked
and then somehow turn those mouse pixel cordinates into a ray shooting the near plane.

I can get x, y mouse position , I think can normalize them by dividing them by the screen height or width / 2.0f just for safe measure however I don't know how to shoot a ray onto the nearplane something to do with an inverse matrix??..

DH.

Does it has a good response time? I mean, even if you move fast it won't lose itself

Matt Jens Jensen

90 Hz on the screens, I can't complain, but 100 or 120 would've been a little better

Almo

one guy here used the vive for half hour or so... he said it didn't make him dizzy or sick, but "now reality feels strange to me"

Dominic Hughes

3:45 PM

I have glm now : ) so it should make inverse and unprojecting very easy.

Almo

we gonna lose people into this tech as it improves.

DH.

We are already losing people due to smartphones

Matt Jens Jensen

@Almo I'd say HTC Vive is an amazing experience but many of the developers just haven't made a polished game for it yet

Almo

yeah

DH.

You don't need to be a nurd anymore to spend your whole life in front of a screen

user92578

3:46 PM

@DominicHughes antongerdelan.net/opengl/raycasting.html?

Matt Jens Jensen

but the biggest issue is visible pixels

Dominic Hughes

@Tyyppi_77 I find that document obscure however I'll read it again bleh.

user4704

@DominicHughes The basic idea is (1) get the mouse position in NDC space (normalized to -1, 1). Unproject that to a point on the near plane.

user4704

Compute a ray from (camera position) in the direction (|unprojected near plane point - camera position|)

user4704

Use that to collide with AABBs or whatever.

Dominic Hughes

3:48 PM

@JoshPetrie How very useful and thanks for the help @Tyyppi_77 you are trying and it might push me in the right direction so : ).

user92578

I really don't like your attitude

user92578

gosh

Matt Jens Jensen

gosh amber, you're such a tiffany

Dominic Hughes

@Tyyppi_77 I am dreamy thinker okay, I don't just respond straight away , I don't just act on things , I try things , try to find solutions and ask for help then sometimes I get into a rut and can't get out of it so I'm sorta stuck and then I just need to do other things , I'm not that straight forward with coding I find most of it highly dumb but I still get through it where I can.

user92578

lol gosh

Dominic Hughes

3:51 PM

Sorry I was just being polite :P

user4704

Please stop using "retarded" in that fashion.

Dominic Hughes

@JoshPetrie Fixed : D

user92578

@DominicHughes I've found you saying multiple times stuff like "Oh my god it's so obvious I have tried this but I totally failed to mention this but I assumed you would guess it"

user92578

> you are trying

user92578

That's sounds extremely condescending to me

Dominic Hughes

3:52 PM

@Tyyppi_77 I'm not straight forward!.. I take shortcuts , I find possibilities where I can ..

user92578

What does this have to do with anything!??!?!

Dominic Hughes

I don't know , I don't really care ... just need to find solutions too my problems and you are getting in my way atm lol.

user92578

OH MY FUCKING GOD

user4704

Everybody just relax.

Matt Jens Jensen

It's all love here

Dominic Hughes

3:54 PM

yes relax for life <3

user4704

@Tyyppi_77 You may want to learn how to channel your frustration into the "ignore" feature.

Matt Jens Jensen

I rant into /dev/null

user4704

@DominicHughes You may want to consider how your attitude is rather abrasive to several people and will eventually lead to your inability to get much help because everybody ignores you.

user92578

It's just... I'm trying to help people here and all I get in response is "you're not very good at helping gosh".

user92578

@JoshPetrie Absolutely.

Dominic Hughes

3:56 PM

I was just stating a point : ).

Matt Jens Jensen

@DominicHughes please don't Meyers-Briggs us to death

We're human beings, not enumerations

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