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12:00 AM
being bilingual is overrated
everyone should just speak american
 
@Hjorthenify tried adding gyroscope movement. it's giving me motion sickness, not kidding
like I'm playing drunk, nope nope nope lol
like trying to read a paper and moving it back and forth all the time hahaha
 
Unity, Unreal Engine 4, & Cocos2D will now ship with Visual Studio set as the default IDE, free to use davevoyles.com/…
oshit
not sure if I even believe this...seems off
someone want to try it?
 
@Hjorthenify comparing it to Doodle Jump... it's cuz the camera moves with you, and it's not 3D. Doodle Jump, camera doesn't move left or right, only moves the character
@IcyDefiance if that's true, that's cool. Anything's better than MonoDevelop (looking at Unity)
 
@SpartanDonut I used to, but then got annoyed and just sat there trying to until I did it.
@IcyDefiance know Unreal does, dunno about Unity though
 
12:22 AM
@Chris DOODLE JUMP
good game, actually
 
Pip
@IcyDefiance nice!
I agree
 
when building for windows
what the difference between x64 and x86
what one is universal?
 
Pip
x86
 
ok thanks
 
Pip
x86 is 32 bit, x64 (actually x86_64) is 64 bit
 
12:34 AM
i screwed up so badly but its time to submit
 
Pip
32 is universal but most systems can handle 64
lol I want to play it now that you said that
 
uploading now
the OS X version is 128 mb
but the others are like 20
 
Pip
nice!
 
i don't know why
 
at this point, if you're making a game, you can get away with just compiling for x64
the only people still on 32-bit are probably running an ancient XP or Vista computer and have no interest in games
but then...perhaps we should check the steam statistics
 
Pip
12:36 AM
yeah, we should
 
heh hehe
I guess i have to
 
Pip
lol
 
@IcyDefiance and those with < 4GB RAM
 
Pip
link?
 
I mean i have white particles coming out the sex craved bunnies
and very savage faping sounds
 
12:38 AM
I'd still install a 32 bit OS on machines with 3GB of RAM
 
@OMGtechy they're probably 64-bit too. pretty much any computer bought after the I7 was released is probably 64-bit.
well, 64-bit cpu anyway
if you have a 64-bit cpu I'm not sure why you'd install a 32-bit OS
 
Yeah the CPUs are pretty much all 64 bit now, but not the OS
 
Pip
looks like about 11% of users are 32 bit
 
they typically have a 32 bit mode (or something to that effect)
 
Pip
on Steam
 
12:39 AM
programs with longs or doubles will run faster when compiled for 64-bit. it's a tiny difference, but if you can, then why not?
 
Pip
oh make that 14
missed XP
 
@IcyDefiance I don't disagree, there's a lot more than that to it even, but not everyone cares aha
32 bit is still the default for Visual Studio using C++
At work I discovered one of the machines I use has 16 physical cores and something somewhere between 100 and 200 GB of RAM (I'm guessing 128, but can't remember exactly)
 
so about 18% of people on Win7, and almost no one on Win8 is 32-bit
 
what webGL file would i need to upload to play in browser?
 
I want that machine at home dammit
 
12:42 AM
personally I'd just say "meh install 64-bit if you want to play" but I'm not planning on making big profits from my projects, lol
 
anyone know?
theres quite a few
 
Pip
@IcyDefiance ?
Windows 7
10.49%
 
10% Win7x86, 45% Win7x64. 10/(10+45) == 2/11 == 18%
 
Pip
ahh I see
it's 10% of total users
 
I'd just ignore XP. they don't matter.
OS X and Linux are just 100% 64-bit
 
Pip
12:45 AM
This is actually amazing
 
Pretty sure there isn't a 32 bit Mac OS X anymore
 
probably not
 
good move Apple
 
Pip
This is like.... amazing
Has to be a bug
"EVA Report while flying over Kerbin's Shores"
 
I really want to play KSP more but I'm so shockily bad at it
 
Pip
12:48 AM
Holy shit I did not know that you can break 18k m with a single solid fuel booster
holy shit
that is actually amazing
18.8 science with one mission
nice!
Playing normal difficulty career mode, just started at the beginning again
 
should pluralize that. it would be more amusing. 18.8 sciences.
 
Pip
:D
 
> "To them, equipment failure is terrifying. To me, it's 'Tuesday.'"
-Mark Watney, pg 152 of The Martian by Andy Weir
 
Pip
That is such an amazing book
My dad got it for me first printing (met Weir at a local bookstore since he lives around here)
 
Never heard of it, just bumped into the quote.
 
Pip
12:51 AM
<3
 
Correct?
 
equipment failure is just 'tuesday' to me too, but that's because I have comcast
 
Pip
@Mutch95 looks good
 
81
Q: Why is the 0 next to 9, not next to 1?

gerritOn almost all keyboard layouts I have ever seen, the 0 is to the right of the 9, rather than to the left of the 1 (the original Dvorak layout is the only exception I can think of; it has 0 between 9 and 2): 1234567890 Why is the 0 to the right of 9 rather than to the left of 1 — the latter seem...

 
Pip
1:26 AM
cool
 
lol i knew it wouldn't be good haha
there was no real point to it
 
Pip
Hold on, lemme play it
Taking FOREVER to load
come on Mutch
XD
 
sorry bout it
its 23 mb
 
1:39 AM
So?
 
2:19 AM
@Pip bad as I thought lol?
 
 
1 hour later…
3:32 AM
@Pip sorry didn't realise I uploaded it wrong
re uploading with data file now :)
 
3:55 AM
with C#, is there a way to have question marks in a string, and then replace the marks with my supplied strings? kind of like an SQL query
ah, String.Format
 
String.Format() or str.Replace()
 
handy :D
 
it won't escape semicolons for you or anything like sql parameters do, but if you don't care about that then it's nice
 
yeah just a bit more readable than joining multiple string vars, less spaghetti-like
 
oh yeah, for that purpose String.Format() is awesome
so league of legends at low levels is horrible
if I was just starting to play now instead of in season 2, I would've quit after 10 games
aside from the game mechanics being completely screwed up because the game is balanced around high level play, there are trolls and afks in every. single. game.
it's not even the new players who die 10x in just as many minutes. they're fine. I've given pointers to a few of them and it's all cool.
it's when I get 5 games in a row with at least one afk on one of the teams, and a couple had 2 or 3 afks
that's just ridiculous
 
 
2 hours later…
6:16 AM
@William'MindWorX'Mariager All KennyNL sprites and it's just something I tossed together for a presentation about cos/sin :P
 
I was thinking mostly in terms of the input boxes which are squeezed together. :P
 
@Chris Hmmm.. Didn't think it would feel like that :P I'll see if I can find a game where the mechanic works with movement
@William Looks fine on my end :P
 
6:33 AM
As you can see the boxes are all squeezed together. :P
 
heh
 
How else should it look? I honestly didn't spend much time on aligning the GUI
 
 
1 hour later…
7:47 AM
Less squeezed :P
 
 
2 hours later…
9:53 AM
lol it's been so long since I've seen an RS gold seller
thought Jagex killed them all
maybe it's not effective on the old school runescape that they released recently...
 
10:43 AM
woohoo, got my own achievement system built. saves to file, banner/pop-up appears when you unlock, can browse in the menus too
 
Jon
hello
i think i might have to format this computer
starting to bog down.. pretty sure its infected with the flu
 
same with my windows computer
but idk if thats because I'm use to the speed of my mac
 
@Jon kick it
in that special way
 
Jon
heh
my gf is like, don't get a new computer wtf
and i'm like, stop talking common sense into me woman
 
10:49 AM
xD
 
Jon
but yah.. i should backup some shit on this drive, and get it done -- its time I do a wipe.
i'd like to know why the drive keeps spinning when i'm not doing anything too
 
What version of windows are you running?
Could be simple things like the indexing running
 
Jon
8.1
its actually ccleaner right now
 
is there already a schnaps brand called "format c:" or would microsoft sue the shit out of me?
 
Jon
format c: is a dos command
pretty sure it is not copyrighted
you would want to use format c: /y
 
10:54 AM
xD
 
Jon
11:06 AM
yay, specs for data contracts changed again
i get paid by the hour, therefore, la la la la la
 
:P
"I'm a very slow reader"
 
Jon
they want a build by tomorrow, heh
changed the specs on me last night
damnit itunes... why are your so lame.
 
Well, it's always best to program at night anyways.
Why would you torture yourself with that program?
 
Jon
because i haven't found another app that can process 80,000 mp3s quickly
quite frankly, I had considered writing one, since everything out there is garbage.
 
What on earth do you have 80.000 mp3's for?
 
Jon
11:10 AM
Its like no one out there knows how to write an app that just plays music
i have been collecting since the 90s
its actually 27000
75 days of non stop music
 
Woah
 
Jon
yeah, its pretty worthless nowadays
now I just listen to internet radio
but, it took a very long time for internet radio to catch up (aka grooveshark for example)
Previously, it was all content locked, and you couldn't skip songs or whatnot
(pandora for example)
Content Owners have a hard time letting go --- which is why content creators need to find better, more innovative ways to reach out to an audience
They don't need record labels anymore -- and this is their attempt to remain in control of an industry that honestly doesn't need them anymore
Sorry Dr. Dre, but you are no long relevant.
 
I still keep my old MP3 collection.
Lots of obscure music you wont find on Spotify or similar.
 
Jon
you never know when the internet is going to just go to hell
need mp3 backups
 
11:20 AM
Spotify has tonnes of new, crappy, Danish music.
 
Jon
Ah yeah, well that too -- I like to have full albums of my favorite bands
it is hard to find good new music nowadays I find
too much noise
 
do you also keep 75 days of nonstop porn backups?
 
@Christoph Twice as much.
 
Jon
heh
i have a RAID5+1 setup for porn
i don't mess around with that
 
11:22 AM
@Jon All compressed, right?
 
@Hjorthenify twice as much is probably a good idea so it's 75 days if you have to share with the zombies outside
 
Pip
@Mutch95 I haven't played yet, but I will
 
i fixed stuff so it should work :)
 
Pip
About to take the free response part of my APCS final
oh man
the multiple choice part was easy as shit
 
They always are :P
 
Jon
11:30 AM
multiple choice tests are for idiots
if i was a teacher, it would be nothing but free form -- i wanna know if you know
don't know? FAILED!
 
Jon
no free rides in my class
also stops cheaters dead in their tracks
 
The only Danish test i've taken which were multiple choice was a biology final in middle school. The school's dumbass got a B+ because he got lucky.
 
Jon
to get the job I have today, I had to write a 30 free form question test -- it was brutal
the job is easier than that test.
 
Jon
11:33 AM
but tests like that are well designed if you ask me
you don't have to get everything right, but based on what is written you can judge if a person is competant or not in the field.
 
I'm almost addicted to watching people play my games
 
@Mutch95 I was about to play it, but then my teacher decided to stand behind me :( I'll try it later.
 
hahaha
 
Jon
addicted? ever suck d**k to watch someone play your game?
 
be reblious
 
Jon
11:34 AM
because crack addiction makes you do that
boo this man!! Booooo!!!!
 
11:59 AM
experts working in the concrete lab above my office obstructed a pipe in the ceiling with - guess what - concrete
 
dat expertise
 
Jon
I once worked in a concrete manufacturing plant
the basement had flooded, and all the equipment to grind the rocks to dust was solidified inside of concrete
 
@Christoph it's kinda really hard to not clog stuff up when dealing with concrete
After all, it is a dust that tends to get everywhere
Or rather, the cement is
 
Jon
yes, cement dust is insane
it gets in your hair, then you take a shower, and it hardens
 
@KevinvanderVelden that's certainly true but what I don't agree with is that they're now starting to replace that pipe and it's just a matter of time until that happens again. I'd rather see it stay as it is, as a memorial
 
12:12 PM
@Christoph heh, well they do kinda need water you know
What they should've done is preventive maintenance, not wait till it broke
 
this is a university - preventive maintenance simply doesn't happen here
 
'morning, All
 
Jon
The sun!!! it is so bright!!
 
mornin
 
Jon
12:24 PM
 
sunlight is fine
just can't have any bad glare
 
Jon
what about the girls in bikinis playing volleyball?
 
well that's not programming is it
 
Jon
i think the guy that organizes the volleyball tourney could potentially be called an event programmer
 
yeah but there's no AI
 
12:27 PM
Well...that depends on whether they're blonde
 
Jon
lmao
best blond joke i heard in hours
 
it's ok. Some of my best friends are blond/blonde.
 
Jon
i wanna pirate gta5 just to see if it will run on my pc
because I can't justify paying 75$ for a game that i'm not sure will be playable.
and if it does work fine -- i'd delete and pay for it -- but it seems like such a hassle.
 
 
1 hour later…
1:37 PM
It would be a huge hassle for me to pirate it and test lol
I don't want to download 60GB twice xD
 
Jon
yeah exactly, lol
 
The next generation of games will (read: "should") have an option to authenticate or something....download once, then go legit with that same copy.
Or, failing that, should install with a limited footprint, and subsequently download the assets needed as you play--eventually resulting in a full HD and crashing the game (and computer)
 
user92578
So I think I need to start thread-proofing my stuff for multithreaded initialization
 
Jon
good plan
i should backup my son's minecraft worlds
i imagine he would freak out if he came home and all his worlds were wiped out because dad formatted, lol
 
1:54 PM
Damnit, Dad!
 
looks at star list Did that really need to be starred?
 
did what?
 
Jon
i didn't star it, i just said it
not my fault everything I say is star gold.
 
@SpartanDonut :D
@Jon yeah, I have no problem with it being said, but well, there's still the "Please don't star trivial messages" rule
 
Jon
WinDirStats is pretty nice when you are doing drive cleanups
 
2:05 PM
@Jon hahah yeah
 
2:23 PM
@TreDubZedd We kinda had that before. Demos you could unlock to full versions.
 
Jon
ShareWare.
 
But they turned out to be horribly easy to crack, so I guess they moved away from that.
 
Jon
proper shareware didn't have the full data on the disks
for example.. doom 2 shareware was the entire first mission
errr.. doom 1
 
I keep doing random things with this specular/normal map stuff. I think it might be a better approach to actually understand the code and then add my changes.
 
Jon
doom 1 shareware, was super long
 
2:25 PM
It's very hacky at the moment.
And there are some obvious redundant things.
float3 LightPosition = pixelPosition + vect * cellSize + cellSize / 2;
float3 lightDirection = LightPosition - pixelPosition;
One example :P
 
user92578
Thread-proofing is boring
 
Jon
You are boring!
 
user92578
Your mom is boring!
 
your mom works on a trawler. as smell.
 
user92578
2:38 PM
here we go
 
Jon
can i come?
 
user92578
sure
 
user92578
for I moment I wanted to use a goto
 
user92578
but I thought i'd walk
 
Wooo! My source approximation has gotten a ton better ! All thanks to Thinkingâ„¢!
 
user92578
2:46 PM
haha
 
user92578
I had some big brain-farts with these spinlocks
 
user92578
brainfart
 
user92578
that's a word I don't like
 
It's peculiar. I can't upload a 2MB gif directly. I have to go through imgur manually.
 
user92578
directly?
 
2:47 PM
Through the upload button
In this chat.
 
user92578
there's a upload button?
 
Yes
It is right next to the send button
 
user92578
All the time?
 
user92578
I don't have one
 
user92578
imgur is acting on me, what else can I use to share a screenshot?
 
user92578
 
user92578
cool
 
The red circle is where I'm sampling. The white line approximates the "source" of the light in that position.
It samples a 3x3 area and then uses that to find the approximate source of the light.
It's a much better approximation than previously.
 
user92578
2:54 PM
I want an upload button too!
 
It's possible you don't have enough rep :)
 
user92578
That blows and sucks
 
user92578
Not enough rep to easily share images to here? Sounds silly
 
user92578
2:55 PM
WHY?!?!
 
@Tyyppi_77 get some bloody rep boy!
@Tyyppi_77 spammers
90% certain
 
user92578
"Let's make the spammers go trough imgur by themselves"
 
Jon
That looks good @William'MindWorX'Mariager
 
user92578
You need 20 rep to even talk here
 
Jon
you should give me the source so I can port it to unity :)
 
2:56 PM
Yes
 
user92578
@KevinvanderVelden I don't know shit, I can't help anyone
 
@Tyyppi_77 ask questions!
Less rep but still rep
 
user92578
I know everything!
 
The source for that is pretty pointless. It's just a bunch of C# calculations. Nothing of real value. It's only useful once combined with the normal+specular stuff.
 
user92578
And like, "yeah, they've got the 20 rep, but they still might spam here with the upload button"
 
2:57 PM
The Upload button puts a strain on the imgur API calls which is why it's abusable.
 
user92578
All the questions are about Unity, OpenGL/DX or XNA/MonoGame
 
user92578
I know nothing about any of those
 
user92578
Oh and LibGDX
 
So, ask anyway :D
 
user92578
I don't see the point of asking if I have nothing to ask about
 
user92578
3:01 PM
Pretty much all my questions I come here with are really broad and opinion based
 
Jon
what kind of pizza should I get?
 
user92578
a meaty one
 
ham and Canadian bacon. Be a rebel.
 
What's the difference?
 
Jon
i'm canadian, and I don't know what canadian bacon is
 
3:05 PM
It's like a piece of meat
 
user92578
I don't know the answer to anything :(
 
Left = Canadian, top = American, bottom = English
In Denmark we mostly use the American variant.
 
british call american bacon "streaky bacon"
 
Jon
see, in Canada, Left = Ham, Top = Bacon, bottom = Bacon and ham
 
user92578
That'd be Left = Ham, Top & Bottom = Bacon for Finns (of course we have our own words for them, but anyways)
 
3:07 PM
The english looks fabulous
 
user92578
Well now I'm just sad
 
user4704
3:32 PM
It's all pretty tasty.
 
user4704
Pig is the best.
 
user4704
All parts are good.
 
unity question: I have a bunch of sounds, loaded as AudioClips.
 
I'm pretty sure there are parts I don't want to eat
 
3:32 PM
should each one have its own AudioSource? Or do I make one AudioSource, and play the clips through that?
 
Ask @Chris, I recall him mention his unwieldy audio thingy.
 
looks like I need an audiosource for each clip, so they can be played at the same time
 
Getting better and better
RGB detection and "height" approximation as well.
The bigger the circle, the higher the light is.
The color of the circle is the color of the light in the "cell", which is where the red circle is.
I wonder if it's possible to do the banded dithering from GIF compression with a shader. It looks kinda neat.
 
Uuh, reduce the colours to the nearest on a palette
That should work I think?
 
I think that'll only cause banding, not dithering.
 
3:46 PM
^
 
4:03 PM
Looks neat
Does saturate in hlsl clamp the values or map the range?
 
Clamp, it doesn't know the range =p
 
Well, it might do some trickery, but alright. :P
 
Some very, very difficult trickery =p
 
Indeed :P
So it's just shorthand for clamp(v, 0, 1) with a save on instructions needed?
 
Yeah pretty much
 

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