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Pip
7:07 PM
heyo
Time for break!
@Joe :D
 
@OMGtechy the projector?
 
Pip
ooh there's a secret hat for changing your profile image.... I might have to change mine
 
Joe
@SpartanDonut i finally got around to starting that answer on your unity color tint question
hope to touch it up and add a link to the source when i get out of the office
 
Joe
supplemental answer for the additive color stuff i was doing*
 
7:18 PM
 
Joe
fallen blocks need to have pain faces
and dead X eyes
X _ X
X o X
tounges sticking out too
 
@Joe Good idea. but that will double the sprite sheet art
 
Joe
perfection comes at a high price
 
I wanted it to be easy for other people to make their own faces
Hmmm maybe just have different eyes?
and different mouths?
Could actually do less art that way
 
That's what I'd do
 
7:27 PM
grrr
creating 181 Sprites takes 5 sec on my PC
these are 360 byte objects. what the fuck is it doing
it's just a reference to a texture, a rect from the texture to draw
 
7:43 PM
@Almo :(
@Almo Bug the unity team. Make them a presentation with a bunch of sprites, and be like. Here watch this compile.... and make em watch it for 10 minutes
 
Joe
so two compiles
 
Bah. I had a migraine this morning. Thank you flux for making my screen less painful to my eyes/brain
being able to adjust brightness on all my monitors with a few keystrokes saved me
 
hate migraines
 
Yeah I don't like the colors flux produces
 
had one last night
 
7:57 PM
I like flux until I try to watch a movie or play a game, then it just looks like shit, so I disable it and then my eyes burn out of their sockets
 
yall need brightness control
 
Brightness control... I don't even know
 
@SpartanDonut @IcyDefiance Flux is adjustable. Adjust it. You can leave the color alone and just adjust the brightness
My eyesight in real life got better after using flux
 
don't think that was possible last time I tried it... maybe it changed
 
Its always been that way
You can adjust the day and night. I just keep it the same but slightly warmer
so there is no day night adjustment cycle thing
 
7:59 PM
Is flux that program that makes your screen orange and blue back and forth?
 
Kind of. by default it goes from normalish to warmer at night. I just adjust it to be warmer at all times.
Less blue light == happier retinas
 
@MickLH that's the one
 
when I tried it there were only two settings, one for how yellow the screen gets (but it's always somewhat yellow and looks like shit when playing a game) and one for whether it abruptly or gradually turns yellow
 
@MickLH I hated it at first, and uninstalled it. After my eyes were hurting from too much screen time. I used it again. Configured it to my liking and now I am done
 
A friend of mine has used that as long as I can remember, it burned into my head the first time I used the computer with it on
I personally just have a routine of turning down the blue (and green slightly) channel sometime before bed, and putting my cell phone face down
 
8:02 PM
It's very easy to have shitty color with it, but if you mess with it you can get something that seems fine. And after 10 minutes your brain adjusts its own internal white balance and everything is fine again. Going back to normal, everything is blindingly blue
 
Joe
whats wrong with blue?
 
It's exciting, and high energy
 
(supposedly) tricks your brain into thinking the sun is still out and can screw with sleep schedules
 
Joe
hmmm
alternative to flux for mac?
 
flux works on mac
 
Joe
8:05 PM
im going to give it a try this break
because my late nite computing destroys any semblance of a regular sleep schedule and i just deal with it
 
I'll try it again too just for the heck of it
it's like C++ or linux. I have to try it once every so often just to remind myself why I hate it.
2
 
I am going to continue burning my eyes out and staying up all night
 
hahahaha
 
@IcyDefiance configure it properly and use it for a day
don't install it and use it in default config for a few minutes you will hate it, as did I when I first heard of it.
 
Where is this amazing guide to configuring flux properly?
 
8:11 PM
 
Pip
@AttackingHobo :D
whoo just got a secret hat
 
MLM
@Almo Reminds me of the thing from No Country for Old Men: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_bolt_pistol
 
@SpartanDonut there is no maigcal config. Everyone has different monitors and eyes
 
But what sort of guidelines can be used to know you have it right?
 
@SpartanDonut I don't have a different color between day and night. You might want to try that.
So it just kind of tints it the same way each time
Try it out at night sometime
Make it more orange than is initially comfortable
Use it for an hour
then disable it and feel the pain of blue light again. Renable it and feel nice. There you go!
 
8:18 PM
@MLM heh yeah
 
8:29 PM
@Joe shader plox
If it's not incredibly huge you should put it in the answer instead of a gist
 
Joe
will do once i get out of the office... i think its about 50 -75 lines
 
hmm
probably a gist then
 
Joe
yea
i might be able to isolate the change
 
Since the code isn't actually the answer to the question and just an amazing supplemental piece
 
Joe
and just put the diff
I want to do an edit as well explain the difference a bit more
my answer is semi not relivant the way it stands now
i just did a brain dump
 
8:35 PM
It's amazing how simple answers I spend barely any time on get more votes than other answers
 
Joe
lol yea
 
@SpartanDonut I got the same mic here at work.
 
I might be in the market for a new one soon
 
Joe
even a gem like this and It gets almost no views or response
5
A: understanding html 5 data attribute

Joethe html5 data attribute is there simply for the purpose of storing additional information within html elements. i've used it when printing various sets of data programmatic-ly to include information like user account numbers. bits of data that you may want to access with javascript or jquery ...

 
MLM
Maybe because it applies to more people rather than a very specific use case you are solving for. I just got two upvotes on the White is best for sprites answer
 
8:38 PM
Joe bumped that question with his answer
 
Joe
I've been meaning to reply to that for a while now
just been insanely busy
 
I managed to nab this one before someone else got to it - gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/89948/…
Just this morning
 
Joe
lucky lol
 
The other guy posted his answer like 30 seconds before I did. I was very excited to find he didn't answer the actual question being asked lol
 
Joe
haha
 
MLM
8:47 PM
@Joe Why was there so many mistakes in your answer to begin with? Hours to make the fixes.
 
Joe
hours? sorry that was a half finished written at lunch answer i was planning on editing on the train
14 mins ago, by Joe
I want to do an edit as well explain the difference a bit more
also I'm a terrible writer
 
MLM
Even that HTML5 data attribute answer was hardly capitalized.
 
pcgamer.com/… Damn thats awesome
 
Joe
@MLM the capitalization is a whole other stupid story and now a very bad habbit i wish i never had
 
MLM
Take some time to improve your answers before you post them. Having well thought out high quality questions and answers is very important.
 
8:55 PM
Thats how you launch a game and record together
 
Joe
what you saw was 45 minutes of writing for me if we had a draft mode i would gladly use it but we do not. I agree it is important, next time ill try and write my answer elsewhere first and post once completed
 
Meh
People have the power to edit for a reason
As long as an answer isn't complete gibberish or terribly hard to follow I'm not too worried about that
But that's just my opinion on the matter
 
I always correct a couple spelling/grammar mistakes after posting, but it's usually pretty good when I hit submit
it shows a preview of your post as you type, so you can know what it looks like. and about the draft mode, if it takes too long to type then just copy the text into notepad, save it, and go back later.
but I don't think it's a big issue
I'm not gonna yell at anyone if they post a shit answer and then edit it into a good answer over the next half hour
 
I wouldn't even call MLM's edit to Joe's answer major... it's really minor stuff IMO
Some of it may be even opinion based on how it should be written :P
 
and if grammar/spelling is the only thing wrong with an answer, I'd call that a pretty good answer
 
9:00 PM
++
 
MLM
But it wasn't fixed and he has examples of the same mistake on answers throughout the sites that are even months old
 
Joe
I mean, by far im no english major... and the answer you edited already had an edit of mine on it
 
@MLM so?
You fixed it. The system works right?
 
Where is the problem?
 
MLM
9:02 PM
That mindset is a little bit why we have a quality issue with new users.
 
I don't think it is
I don't think you're comparing apples to apples
 
yeah the quality issues with new users have absolutely nothing to do with grammar
 
I do think that's a good edit, especially if you have > 2k rep and can do it without a review
but I don't think it was a bad answer before the edit
 
The edit is perfectly fine
 
9:04 PM
these concepts are not mutually exclusive
 
I would rather Joe any user post an answer of that quality than not post an answer at all
 
the important thing is whether the information is there and can be parsed easily
everything else is just "better"
 
Basically what I'm saying - @Joe don't be shy about answering in fear of being attacked about your grammar and spelling and use of capitalization. Answer away buddy.
Just don't post a shitty answer
 
MLM
Best is what each post should strive for. Which means making formatting correctly so it is very easy to read.
 
Joe
hah im not ashamed of how bad my writing is, but i do feel shitty that someone had to go through and fix my shit
 
9:07 PM
@Almo My migraine is gone!
 
@MLM Sure. We should all aim for an A+ but I don't think it's worth anyone's time to make fun of the kids who are getting Bs
 
I get Bs because teachers assign too much homework and I'm too lazy to get As
 
Acetaminophen + Coffee + Water + Banana and Potato chips == Cure for migraine.
 
Simply making the edit without down voting is a nice way to say "Great job but here's how you can improve"
 
MLM
Exactly what I did
 
9:09 PM
Well to continue the metaphor that is exactly what you did
And then you also beat him up at recess for being dumb
Ok maybe not that extreme
 
I thought it was the dumb kids that get muscles and beat up the nerds
 
No this is a prestigious school where the smart kids pick on the still smart but not as smart as them kids
 
ah right, one of those
 
MLM
He has 65 answers on SO that just from a cursory glance, follow in this same pitfall
 
so basically everyone is weak. there's just more of the smarter weak people so they can team up on the others.
wait, we're calling Joe dumb here aren't we
shit, I didn't mean that XD
 
MLM
9:11 PM
I didn't bash anyone and only brought up the mistakes I perceived which it seems he agrees on.
 
damn it MLM look what you made me do
 
@MLM I know you mean no harm
 
Joe probably doesn't even want to be friends with us anymore :'(
poor Joe
 
@Joe your lack of capitalization looks so unprofessional. I'm sorry if it offends. But even in answers?
 
I'm saying perfection shouldn't be a priority and we shouldn't not answer questions if we haven't proof read our answers 60 times to be sure we didn't miss any mistakes
A good answer with bad grammar is far more useful than a bad answer with perfect grammar
 
MLM
9:13 PM
I am not worried about posting and fixing. But hours, months after and it should be fixed - I am also talking about other questions and answers I have seen
 
In my head I saw it as a problem where Joe spent 45 minutes on an answer to get told he needs to try harder before answering
 
@Joe <3
 
Pip
welcome to the deeps
 
Maybe I'm alone but after initially answering and rereading my answer I don't go back and reread my answers making sure they are grammatically correct
 
Pip
hey
 
9:14 PM
ho
 
Pip
sup
whoo I got three secret hats
 
Not too much
 
Joe
@AttackingHobo HHA it really does
and i will tell you a story
for the past 2 years I have literally been punished for capitalizing my writing
my last company had a "marketing campaign" called "NOSHIFTING"
 
@Joe sue them for mentally damaging you.
 
MLM
@SpartanDonut I do this a lot and I think this how it should be. I am putting in maximal effort to ease anyone trying to understand and help me.
 
Joe
9:16 PM
and it stuck as permanent stupidity... where no one in any correspondence or emails was permitted to capitalize
 
@Joe I am going to make a competing company called NOSPACECRUISECONTROL
 
@MLM I guess my opinion on the matter is that an answer with good information is the main priority of the answerer. Perfecting the answer in the area of grammar is not just on the individual but of the whole community
 
ALLTHEWRITINGHASTOBETYPEDINCAPSANDNOSPACESAREALLOWEDALSONOPUNCTUATION
 
Joe
my old boss would love you...
 
Truth of the matter is someone might suck at grammar and not even know it
But these kinds of people can still put out good answers
 
9:17 PM
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The community can then help make good answers great
 
@AttackingHobo good :)
 
MLM
@SpartanDonut I am not looking for grammar specifically, mainly formatting. Of course I fix the grammar as it would be an imcomplete edit
 
Pip
so
 
@MLM same difference in my opinion
 
9:17 PM
@Joe Please use correct caps here.
 
Joe
You will notice I made ALOT of edits on my messages.
This is the reason
 
MLM
No worries on that, I do it a lot too. Especially when I compare myself to others in the chat
 
Joe
@IcyDefiance I will still be your friend
@MLM I admit I'm not even remotely good at writing, even worse I have no desire to improve. This soft skill is maxed out for me.
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
F this language.
 
MLM
Nah, this is the best language (bias)
I only go through Duolingo so I can argue better that English is the best
 
Joe
9:24 PM
I'd sooner work on my objective C.
 
This exceeding trifling witling, considering ranting criticizing concerning adopting fitting wording being exhibiting transcending learning, was displaying, notwithstanding ridiculing, surpassing boasting swelling reasoning, respecting correcting erring writing, and touching detecting deceiving arguing during debating.
apparently this sentence was constructed in the 19th century to make the same argument that the buffalo sentence does now
basically, f this language
 
Joe
ok off to the train
 
MLM
But who cares. Just because you can write global variables in javascript, doesn't mean you should do it
 
Pip
@OMGtechy you around bro?
 
MLM
9:26 PM
To me, that just seems like English is very extensible, reading post
 
oh yeah, I'm not really making a point here. I just like this kind of trivia.
my real point was made a long time ago and I don't feel like repeating it
too busy modding the shit out of dark souls to make it playable
 
Pip
cool
 
9:40 PM
@Pip all this time fighting the problem and you still haven't tried Jon's suggestion? Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze
Did you at least try graphics.ApplyChanges();
 
Pip
yep
Jon's suggestion shouldn't apply, it's for a super old, resolved issue
 
You really want me to install Linux don't you
My brain keeps yelling at it "THIS CAN'T BE THAT DIFFICULT"
Well buddy. Challenge accepted
This weekend sometime it's happening
Also, you should include the most basic version of how you are resizing the screen in code
 
Pip
:D
alright, I'm just doing: (code coming)
graphics.PreferredBackBufferWidth = whatever
graphics.PreferredBackBufferHeight = whatever
graphics.ApplyChanges()
 
Please tell me you didn't copy and paste that from your code
 
Pip
I've tried it in a ton of places in the code, in the update loop, init, constructor
I did not, why
 
9:48 PM
Because you have height twice
 
Pip
whoops
 
I assumed it was a typo for chat only but wanted to make sure it wasn't in the code too lol
 
Pip
yeah, it's just a typo
 
Would have been better if it was width since the problem you see is width works but height doesn't
 
Pip
mhm
 
10:11 PM
@Pip if you don't care much about mobile check out FNA - (Monogame SDL2) - github.com/flibitijibibo/FNA
I think there is an actual Monogame SDL2 you can get but that seems to be the gold standard to work on Linux (as opposed to OpenTK)
 
Pip
10:52 PM
cool
hm, I'll look at it
thanks
mobile isn't important
2
 
Pip
11:04 PM
Doing a full system update atm
pretty awesome
just upgraded by linux kernal version, about a million packages, and some firmware
 
damn it, looks like I decided to try dark souls just 4 days after an update was released that killed all the mods
figures
 
11:22 PM
@Pip what's up?
 
Pip
11:36 PM
was having trouble installing a package that just got updated
system upgrade fixed it
(I was installing go)
 
Pip
11:53 PM
whoo got drive installed
I can push and pull from google drive from command line now
 

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