Game Development

Christian Frantz

12:01 AM

Well crap. My inventorySlot handles a bunch of things lol

SpartanDonut

I would probably architect it with a bunch of container classes personally

OMGtechy

@ChristianFrantz at least you learn

SpartanDonut

You would have some sort of inventory manager which contains the dictionary and manages the number of items that goes into the, the dictionary will contain inventory slots... though this is kind of icky

The key at least doesn't make much sense as an inventory slot

Maybe InventorySlot<T>

OMGtechy

Each slot knows where it is, but is unaware of other slots

SpartanDonut

Yeah the inventory manager would probably have to deal with that too

OMGtechy

12:03 AM

a "manager" like type deals with that

SpartanDonut

Probably contain a list of the types and order of slots contained in the dictionary

OMGtechy

This is something you should draw out @ChristianFrantz

SpartanDonut

Then it doesn't need to be InventorySlot<T>

OMGtechy

UML is a nice tool

Christian Frantz

I've never even heard of that

OMGtechy

12:07 AM

Now is the time to research :)

Jovito

Just figured out that my code works if the main class is in the default package.

If I run "appletviewer applet.html" it works beautifully.

"appletviewer ch18/applet.html" doesn't.

It throws up this

Java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: EXE18_03 (wrong name: ch18/EXE18_03)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:800)
at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:142)
at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:217)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:425)
at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:152)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:358)

Anyone wants to take guess on why this is happening?

SpartanDonut

Why not just put the main class in the default package?

Maybe that's a rule

I dunno

Jovito

I don't think it's a rule. I think it has something to do with the way java looks up files under a package.

"wrong name: ch18/EXE18_03"

It's probably getting the wrong path. What I don't know is the right way to run the command so that it looks up the files in the right directory.

Almo

12:34 AM

@SpartanDonut you available for a lol game in 10 min?

Almo

12:50 AM

@SpartanDonut you there?

Icy Defiance

he ded

donut is kill

Almo

hehe

i see you're back online

Icy Defiance

aye

Almo

so we playin?

Icy Defiance

but...starbound... :'(

yeah okay I'll play

at least until you lose your series

Almo

12:54 AM

hahah ok

oooh defense grid 2 is mac linux win

i never finished first one cause it was win

Pip

1:19 AM

Aww yeah, just got Tropico 3 for free via the humble store <3

For 15 more hours only!

humblebundle.com/store

OMGtechy

@Pip I have played every tropico game ever made

<3

Pip

Nice

I've played only... 4 I think

Ascendion

hmmmm

OMGtechy

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lol -- thank GAWD the author already removed the question :)

Pip

1:28 AM

lol

Alright, gotta go finish homework then bed, night all

(might lurk a bit in the background)

Almo

2:49 AM

@SpartanDonut made silver finally :) almos-lol-blog.blogspot.ca/2014/09/made-silver-5.html

Pip

3:01 AM

nice!

SpartanDonut

6:05 AM

@Almo you are a boss

@Almo but what is this shift E business? Is it built into the game to automatically cast your net backwards or what?

Christoph

7:06 AM

good morning

Lasse

morning

Christoph

7:27 AM

so...were there any significant advances in quidditch recently? I'd like to play that.

Lokkij

8:04 AM

Morning

Christoph

morning @Lokkij

SpartanDonut

It's a beautiful day in Verona!

Lokkij

It's a fine day in Groningen!

SpartanDonut

►

A little musical Shakespeare humor for your morning

Lokkij

Damnit. I even googled it to be sure...

SpartanDonut

8:09 AM

lol

Never fear... it's a rather unknown show that I was privileged to see

Oliver Schöning

10:23 AM

New series on Path finding videos. Really informative :) youtube.com/…

user92578

10:47 AM

One more hour of school left... then some GameDev before I have to start reading for my exams.

user92578

Sex-Ed is boring.

3

Christoph

you just made it into the history books of GDSE chat

user92578

lol

Wardy

wtf ... that's ... lol

Christoph

this might well be included in my list of overly simplified and generalized notes about other countries' citizens

the finnish don't like sex-ed, because tyyppi.

Lasse

11:01 AM

lol

Wardy

hey @Lasse

Lasse

hey

Wardy

do you have much noise based generation code in your engine ?

Lasse

no, not really

Wardy

do you not generate your world?

Lasse

11:04 AM

in the minecraft clone project? yes, but not with noise

it's just Random.Next() really

Wardy

hmmm ok

Lasse

I havent got into creating nice worlds in that project yet, it's kind of frozen until I get time to continue it

Wardy

hmmm ok ... I'm looking in to generating planets

looking to start with a basic noise based texture gen

then move in to basic meshing

then transition to voxels at ground level

I'm hoping that if I use the same mesh gens and noise algo right through the full transition stack it should all line up during the underlying data transitions lol

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

11:19 AM

Anyone else in here got an invitation to that RealSense contest?

Martin Sojka

Nope. Never heard of that.

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I got an email from a guy.

"Hey Nikolaj,

How are you? I saw on Github that you develop on C# and it seems good and personally i like it.

I'm organizing a one-million dollars challenge about Intel RealSense technology (SDK based on C/C++/C#) and the idea submission is open until the end of the month, do you have any personal project that could fit on this challenge?"

Sounds like an elaborate scam, but the site looks legit.

realsenseappchallenge.intel.com/inter

Martin Sojka

Given that it's hosted at intel.com, sounds legit indeed.

Anko

That bit with "and personally I like it" sounds like a really risky thing for them to put into an automatically generated email. What if you were developing open-source bomb-making software or something?

Though the rest of the text is generic and fits the hypothesis.

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

11:35 AM

Looks like an interesting contest, but seems difficult to develop for hardware you don't have access to.

I just skimmed it, so maybe there are more details.

Ohh

The ideas that are accepted will get to loan a device.

"1000 participants will be invited to turn their Ideas into working Demos. Participants will be loaned the Intel® 3D Camera as part of the development process."

Anko

Apparently you can also reserve to buy the camera thing for $100 click.intel.com/intelr-realsensetm-developer-kit.html

...with rather unethical-sounding legal terms like "intended solely for internal use by developers with the SDK" and "may not be dismantled or in any way reverse-engineered"

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Hah

Good luck circumventing the laws. :P

I'm free to dismantle and reverse-engineer anything I want. As long as it's for personal use. :P

Martin Sojka

@Anko NDAs are surely involved. As is the Intel legal team. So ... yeah. Good luck defending your very theoretical freedoms.

I don't say you shouldn't, just be realistic about your chances.

Anko

Surely I'm free to dismantle my belongings for any use whatsoever. You can't sell me a brick and tell me I'm not allowed to break it. What the hell?

Martin Sojka

@Anko I'm very sure the licence is worded in a way which makes sure you don't "own" the camera, in the legal sense of the word.

Anko

11:50 AM

@Martin Yeah, like how Blizzard games are only "licensed to you" instead of "owned", so it's easier from them to remove your rights to it.

Martin Sojka

It's a piece of hardware, and you'll very likely have the chance to review and discuss the licence beforehand, so actually totally unlike the Blizzard games.

Anko

What do you mean? I could review StarCraft's license before paying for it. I doubt neither Blizzard nor Intel would accept any change proposals.

Martin Sojka

The differences are: 1. It's hardware vs. software, 2. For software licences, you very often only see the licence after you purchased the software (that's the case for nearly every Blizzard game I know) and 3. You can submit a change proposal to Intel. Where's my "Edit and submit the change" button on the EULA screen with Blizzard?

Anko

I don't see any way to discuss the license with either company other than by emailing them, but I don't see either of them fronting the legal team costs to make licensing changes for an individual without more money to show.

Martin Sojka

Nearly every licence, NDA, contract and similar I signed I had the chance to review it and offer changes, and talk about it calmly. In almost all cases, my changes were accepted. On the other hand, I'm trying to be reasonable ...

All it took is sitting down with the person allowed to do so, in person, taking a pen and doing some changes on the printed licence/NDA/contract there and then.

Anko

11:59 AM

Do you think I'd have any success sitting down with an Intel representative in person and convincing them that I should be allowed to take their device apart?

Martin Sojka

Depends on what else you'd have to offer.

Anko

Nothing else. I just think it's fair that I should be allowed to do whatever with a device I own.

Martin Sojka

You always have something to offer, even if it's just your expertise. Also, the "owning" of the device is the wrong assumption; if you want that, you'd additionally have to make the request to buy the device, and they'd have to agree to that.

At which point, we're veering into the "unreasonable" territory.

But, hey, if you have a few million dollars to spare ...

user92578

12:21 PM

Home sweet home :)

user92578

Hello

Christoph

12:35 PM

wb!

Almo

@SpartanDonut If you look in the key bindings, you'll find I think "Smart Cast" or something like that. So for Cait's e, if I hit e, I then left-click to release it. If I shift-e, it just triggers the spell with the aim point wherever the mouse pointer is.

ctrl-spell is self cast, useful for heals and things.

well, in my bindings anyway.

Stack Exchange

1:05 PM

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