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8:00 PM
Last physics class I took was in 2012. It's been a while.
 
oh, hey, me too
my freshman year in college. My parents wanted me to be an engineer.
 
8:17 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh And you gave up that dream? Man, how could you turn down a life of driving trains around?!
 
Oh yeah, how does that actually work? I mean here you start at uni for a specific type of bachelors (e.g. electrical engineer or maybe physics) and that's it. You either pass classes and make it or you're out :/
 
@dot_Sp0T here I just went in as 'undecided', supposedly I had two years to stay that way before I had to pick a major. I picked CS once I found out how fun it was
 
@DaaaahWhoosh that is way cooler than here. I mean you actually get a chance to try out subjects to see what you enjoy :/
I mean we can still switch majors normally, but depending on the uni you start at 0 again
 
weird. Yeah, at least where I went there were enough 'core' requirements to keep me busy for a couple years, and then they double-counted for my major once I picked it
 
@dot_Sp0T Here most (not all) unis have what are called "General Education classes," classes they expect every major (with exceptions) to take, like a couple of science courses, a couple of English courses, a couple of math courses, etc, etc.
 
8:22 PM
lol I win again
 
Often it's in the format of "Take 2 of the following 6 classes."
@DaaaahWhoosh Curse your superior typing speeds!
 
@Green I'm curious how much recoil (backward force) could be cut from a system if the force was harnessed to drive something forward with roughly the same momentum, so the forward force almost equaled the backward force:
 
@AndyD273 Wouldn't there still be "left" force that would press on the tube?
 
@AndyD273 satellites use discardable pieces for that. Maybe you could just attach a set of drop-shells to the stock of a gun?
 
OR you just go with self-propelling bullets and have your guns bazooka style!
 
8:24 PM
or maybe make the mag e tad bigger, include a second loading spring and shut out something in the back with every shot
like a second bullet
 
(And ignore the added bulk and significant uptick in price!)
 
@NexTerren Do you mean left vs right? or left as in bleed from the system?
 
would help in most hollywood firefights
 
@AndyD273 Vs Right. As in the leftwards facing direction.
 
@NexTerren It might be top and bottom
that's actually how I was picturing it in my head
Left or up or down I don't know
It's the forward and back that I'm curious about
 
8:27 PM
Sorry, I mean left in the diagram.
 
you're a diagram!
 
@dot_Sp0T Words hurt. :(
 
@NexTerren everybody hurts!
 
@dot_Sp0T I thought everybody talks?
 
@NexTerren please tell me you're just overlooking the song reference because you want to get back at me
 
8:30 PM
@NexTerren Ah. Thats what I'm curious about. The mass being accelerated toward the right would have a roughly equal effect toward the left, as you say. I'm curious if the leftward force could be turned around using hydraulics or other mechanical means to move it back right, canceling out the leftward drive.
 
@dot_Sp0T I was actually referencing this song: youtube.com/watch?v=X5G9tIe84lE
 
@NexTerren no matter what you say, this song starts off terrible
 
@dot_Sp0T Well the music video does. The actual song doesn't. I've never actually watched the video.
I mean it's not the best song ever--don't get me wrong--but it's catchy enough.
 
@NexTerren idk, sounds too american-y for me. I'm sorry and I hope this doesn't hurt our relationship.
@NexTerren I been referring to that
 
@dot_Sp0T I have no particularly pride (or lack there of) for American culture, so no hurt here. :P
 
8:32 PM
@dot_Sp0T Not enough sitar?
 
@AndyD273 you'll need to help me out with that one
 
@dot_Sp0T Don't think I've ever heard this before.
Wait, no. I lied.
The chorus.
 
@NexTerren now that might actually hurt our relationship
@NexTerren well, that's a save if I've ever seen one
 
@dot_Sp0T Just call me Mr. Ctrl S. Finger guns
 
8:34 PM
@AndyD273 I don't know... Indian music in my head sounds rather like this: youtube.com/watch?v=vTIIMJ9tUc8
 
@NexTerren Alt + Facepalm4
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@dot_Sp0T I was just trying to think of something that doesn't sound "American"
Considering we imported all of our musical infuences
 
@AndyD273 you want something that doesn't sound American?
 
Mostly the stuff that is the least like "american" music is the atonal Asian music
 
@AndyD273 that will double it, not cut it. You drew the very principle of recoil.
 
@dot_Sp0T This... still sounds like American country. Like the non-rock/pop modern country, but the stuff before it. Which is probably because of Andy's before mentioned importing.
There's another word for it than "country."
 
@NexTerren Shit?
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@AndyD273 Ohsnap
@AndyD273 No, but I mean the 1800s - 1930s music they played in the... well... country.
 
I was going to go with polka
 
@DaaaahWhoosh you can shift energy to other forms, but the momentum is a primal low-level vector quantity that is absolutely conserved. Throwing something forward makes it worse. Throwing to the side does nothing to help.
 
8:42 PM
@AndyD273 Intuitively, based on your diagram, not much. The energies are the same. In your curved diagram, you're going to have the fluid pushing against the 'U' shape of the curve continuing the direction of the recoil. If anything, that U shape will make the recoil worse.
 
@NexTerren wait, give me another chance: youtu.be/LqMvkZU60hU?t=40s
 
Like what's the name of the music genre that they did the traditional square dancing to?
 
Just draw up a simple force vector diagram and see for your self.
 
@NexTerren folk music.
 
@NexTerren Folk or bluegrass.
 
8:43 PM
@NexTerren country? Cajun? Folk?
 
@dot_Sp0T "Folk" is probably the better term. "American Folk" I guess?
 
@AndyD273 polka is a 4 beat measure.
 
@dot_Sp0T And yeah, this sounds a lot less "American" to me.
 
You've also lost efficiency of the gun since some of the propellant is going towards forcing the plunger backwards. Just make it solid so the expanding gases have something solid to push against.
 
@NexTerren that's how they look and sound here :D
 
8:45 PM
@dot_Sp0T I started out doing Computer Science (although it was half computer science, quarter maths, quarter physics) and then decided I couldn't live without physics, so started physics in second year without having to start all over again :) Now I seem(?) to be doing something that's a bit of a mixture of lots of things
 
@dot_Sp0T The expressions are killing me.
 
Also, calculating proppelant charges is hard enough with a single moving plunger (the round itself) without adding in another one from your recoil system.
 
@NexTerren well, they're concentrated. That instrument is hella difficult to play. It also seems to be TV from around the 70s, so people were proud to be in front of the camera and did their best to look presentable and serious
 
The best I would expect is to get a dampening force.
 
@NexTerren and that would be a take on a song I think should be american in origin: youtube.com/watch?v=f_pQOfGVxuI
 
8:47 PM
Anyone want to be the 100th vote on an answer?
@NexTerren How you been?
 
@James which question/answer?
 
@Green Too late.
 
100
A: What would a Boeing 747 look like if it were left in a hangar for 5,000 years. Could it still be flown?

JamesYour time frame is way, way too long. Aircraft are incredibly complex machines; let's review a few of the failure points. Fluids: Your first failure point is likely to be fuel. OK, technically the batteries would drain out first, but if you have fuel you can get those recharged in most cases....

wooo! a gold answer...finally.
 
@sphennings I already upvoted it.
 
@sphennings Yeah technically green voted waaay before you :P
 
8:49 PM
I thought votes were supposed to be private :p
 
Green and I have an... understanding (wink wink)
 
@James Hey! Busy.
 
@James I'm really tempted now
 
@NexTerren I can relate. I am thinking we will finally do the next episode shortly after the holiday weekend.
 
@NexTerren I've been meaning to ask you, do you still play R6S? Because I did start playing it, and it is a good time
 
8:53 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh Off and on. The entire group of guys I played with (except kind of one) burned out on it over literally a one week span when I was offline. Without a group to play (at least occasionally) with it was a lot less fun. I don't mind solo play as long as occasionally I play with people I know.
@DaaaahWhoosh Who do you main?
 
ok... @SerbanTanasa is clearly hacking worldbuilding.
 
Tachanka, right? :D
@James ?
 
@NexTerren I'm not worthy. I tend to play Rook and the guy with the EMP grenades
 
He has 23 gold badges.
 
@James A long, long time ago I said that I would give you your 101st upvote on that question. So there you go :P
 
8:55 PM
@Mithrandir24601 ...you know I actually remember that.
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Rook's a nice guy to have. Can't mess up with him (as long as you have two braincells to rub together) and then you can do just about anything you want.
@DaaaahWhoosh PC, XBone, or PS4?
 
@NexTerren PC. I've joined the master race, and haven't looked back
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Good man, good man.
@DaaaahWhoosh I'm Ranger.RTS if you want to add me on UPlay.
 
all right, if I remember I will do so
 
What're you guys playing?
 
8:59 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh r6stats.com/stats/uplay/Ranger.RTS My stats aren't impressive, but keep in mind this is my very first time doing a competitive shooter of any sort (including games like Halo) buuuuut you can see which operators I like by count of hours.
 
R6S. Remember 6 Symbols. It's a memory game
@NexTerren your K/D is better than mine, but I've been getting rusty and didn't spend my youth getting used to a mouse and keyboard
 
@DaaaahWhoosh How often do people punch you in the ear?
 
@DaaaahWhoosh I mean the key takeaway from my stats page is: Valk is bae
@James R6S. Rainbow Six Siege.
 
...you guys should play Warframe with me sometime.
 
@James But Valk is bae.
 
9:04 PM
@James man, I tried to get back into that game. I really did. But then I got really, really angry at it for some reason
 
@DaaaahWhoosh ...its not darksouls
 
as I recall, it was one of those 'defend the thing' missions. I lost because I ran out of ammo.
 
@NexTerren What the hell are you talking about
 
@James Valk is bae.
 
@DaaaahWhoosh ...you know you can leave those missions at a certain point right? They keep going forever if you don't
 
9:06 PM
@James I know, but I think it was one of those void key things, so I had to last ten rounds
and they kept on throwing dogs at me, and for some reason dogs take like 100 bullets to kill
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Yeah you need a decent team for those. That's why I play as Frost. People love the bubble.
 
@James Okay, fine. Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog... "Valkyrie" is one of the counter terrorists operators (each have unique gadgets, semi-unique guns, other differences that really affect how they fit into the team). You only get the choice to pick her half of the time (playing defense) yet still I've played her more than any two other operators--attack or defense*--combined. "Bae" is ironically used slang for "baby," showing my fondness of the Navy Seal.
 
I may play that tonight now...I haven't mindlessly killed a bunch of weird aliens in a while.
@NexTerren Oh...sorry to waste your time, turns out I didn't care.
 
And I play her for her gadget, not because she's female. But that's part of the joke.
@James But Valk is bae.
 
I'd like to play Valk, but I'm in the limbo of having the game, but not the first season pass, so now there's like no way for me to get the season 1 operators without re-buying the game
 
9:10 PM
@NexTerren Well in Warframe you can get a character named Valkyr who can grow magical energy claws and is basically invincible, and I guess if it helps its a she...kind of
 
@DaaaahWhoosh ? Are you sure? I think you can buy the historic season one pass?
 
@NexTerren I looked for it once, couldn't find it. Only way to get it it to get some kinda late-to-the-party bundle
 
Also to be fair she's not that great if you're not on coms with a team. However she's easily the most important member of the defense if you're on coms.
 
@NexTerren Explaining a joke is a fun and interesting way to spend an afternoon?
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Ew. You're right.
@Bellerophon "Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better but the frog dies in the process." - E. B. White
...And that's not the actual quote, huh.
"Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but the thing dies in the process and the innards are discouraging to any but the pure scientific mind."
Doesn't flow nearly as well.
@DaaaahWhoosh Well I can give you advice for the Season Pass operators if you want feedback before you buy them with the renown.
 
9:18 PM
@NexTerren actually, after re-searching, it seems like you can get the 'legacy operators bundle' from the in-game store, using 'R6S credits'. I'll have to see for myself, and see how much that converts to in USD, when I get home
stupid video games with their stupid casino chip ripoffs
 
@DaaaahWhoosh It's pretty standard in-game currency. They do a $0.01 to 1 credit deal, and buying more gets you a progressively higher % bonus of "free" credits.
 
so... 2400 credits is similar to $24?
that's not bad, considering I actually got the game for free
well, free + about a week of talking to customer support after the key expired
 
Valk - Worth it, if you like teamplay or ambushing; BB - Debatable; Frost - Fun, not sure if worth it?; Buck - Super vanilla, but sometimes you don't want to worry about a fancy gadget; Hibana - The fun Thermite; Cap - Interesting but I hate his gunplay; Cav - SQUATS FOR DAYS (also she's sneaky and tons of fun once you get a handle of how to use her)
Oh, and then there's Echo.
 
Echo?
 
Some people like him. To me he's off doing by yourself, and nobody ever wants to team up to make it work. :P
He gets a drone that cloaks and can shoot this blast that "drunks" people (makes their vision really, really messed up).
Valk/Cav/Smoke are my favorite for defense. I bounce around for offense.
 
9:24 PM
Cav is pretty annoying to fight against. I once shot a teammate as he was trying to revive someone because of her
 
Hahaha
@James Get Siege and come play with Woosh and I.
 
9:59 PM
@James I think TimB is pretty close too, with 17.
And HDE has long since passed me in Silvers -- there was a time when I had the most gold, the most silver, the most bronze.
 
Am I being too harsh when I instantly put a person into the asshat-bin as soon as they say something along the lines of: "Google before you ask" ?
 
Google it
 
@dot_Sp0T No
 
@dot_Sp0T Depends. If it's simple laziness on their part wanting to take the easy route and shift work to somebody else for only their own benefit... Maybe a stern, short correction of "Google before you ask" is warranted?
 
10:05 PM
@dot_Sp0T If it's e.g. a physics question with a lengthy but not complicated explanation, then yes, otherwise no. Or, context
Or, what @Nex said
 
Idk, I always see it as: If someone is willing to step forward and ask how to do something, then at least put them into the right direction instead of just rebuffing them.
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I mean there's lots of people that are simply unwilling to google. But there's also people that simply don't know how
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E.g. I regularly forget that there's a thing called thesaurus that helps me look up words with similar meaning.
I'm really glad I can refer to you folks with stuff like that. Really helps me in my day-to-day efforts.
 
hey there @Mithrandir24601
 
10:44 PM
Rytsas @Shalvenay
 
@Mithrandir24601 how're things going?
 
Pretty good, thanks :) How are things with you and your character?
 
alright here
 
11:16 PM
I just posted a new Q.
 
@JDługosz do you want me to shoot it down?
 
@NexTerren use lmgtfy.com
 
@JDługosz Now THAT is a snarky way of doing it. :P
 
@dot_Sp0T any initial feedback to improving the question, if necessary,is nice to have soon.
 
@JDługosz Well the title is awesome.
 
11:18 PM
@NexTerren It gets the point across, and you verify that Google really does return the desired info.
 
@JDługosz I'm just joking. Do you accept answers that go averse your idea? E.g. the fact that an animal still has its own will and at the cost and technology needed to create such an exoskeletion it becomes just more effective to actually just use make it a robot/vehicle
@JDługosz the issue is that lmgtfy is mainly used in a demeaning way, e.g. to make ridicule of people
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@NexTerren thanks. I'm trying to understand what drives the “click bait” HNQ, while still being an honest headline.
 
So it seems every time I ask a question on this site, it ends up on hot network questions. Does this happen to everyone?
 
@DonyorM nope, seems you're just better than us^^
 
@dot_Sp0T ah yes, I should add the reality-check tag. If it is not practical that is a good answer to the actual question.
 
11:21 PM
HNQ is pretty weird -- I'll have streaks where like 2-4 questions I was involved with will get onto HNQ basically one after the other
 
@JDługosz then I'll bloat that up to a few paragraphs I guess
 
@DonyorM no
 
Hmmm, I ask questions pretty rarely so it may just be luck
 
@JDługosz that is nasty
 
@JDługosz He was suspended?!
Aw, I missed the high school drama!
 
11:23 PM
@NexTerren i guess everybody already blocked him
 
@Shalvenay It might have to do with the time. Asking anything (decent) at a cery slow time might be more likely to be taken because there are only a few choices and a constant number of slots to fill.
 
@JDługosz that could be it
@JDługosz but it's more often questions I answer than questions I ask even
 
@NexTerren yes. He posted something improper in the sandbox. I immediatly slapped him with a 3-day time out.
 
@JDługosz Are we talking trolly (which he was doing before) or something beyond that?
Ah, hold that. I can see the revision history.
 
11:28 PM
Well that was an interesting last paragraph.
 
There’s no link for revisions since there were no subsequent edits. Hack the url to view it?
 
Somebody edited the post to include a link: worldbuilding.meta.stackexchange.com/posts/4950/revisions
 
@JDługosz I somewhat lost myself somewhen while typing. Hope my points still come across
 
Actually, @JDługosz, since the link was hidden on a deleted post, should I have linked it in the chat? If not, could you delete my chat message?
It's passed the window I can delete it.
 
@NexTerren Wow, 3 answers after only 9 views (including my own).
 
11:40 PM
@dot_Sp0T You are right that LMGTFY is a dismissive response. I'd say that the best answer empowers the asker to answer similar questions for their self in the future.
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@NexTerren hmm, it was not editedv there is still only 1 revision. That page exists even if it’s not shown on the post yet.
@NexTerren no need; anyone can figure it out.
 
@JDługosz Okay, good, good.
 
@NexTerren so is that a troll or what? I'm worried it’s a cry for help.
 
@JDługosz So I think it's safe to say it's trolling at this point given his history, especially as I believe he outright admitted to trolling in one of his comments (I don't know in what answer thread, but it was linked earlier in the chat). Maybe it is also a cry for help, but... I've never been a good one with subtleties over text communication.
 
@dot_Sp0T i'll go over them later. Thanks!
 
11:45 PM
@JDługosz For what it's worth (not that you need my approval or anything) I think the three day ban was the right call in response to it. It's decisive, makes a message that we've been trying to get through via text, but in the end not overbearing.
 
@NexTerren It reminds me of training my puppy actually! I'm hoping to help teach him how to behave in an adult mature venue, which he won’t know from his earlier experience on 4chan and the like. 30 days gone lets hope for good doesn’t help him learn.
 
@JDługosz it might be worth mentioning the tech-level at the top of the question instead of at the bottom. Although I'm not sure if people are more likely to skip the top or the bottom of the question, at least the part around the images will not get much attention :/
 
@JDługosz -- mind if I toss a question at you actually?
(and @SerbanTanasa you're welcome to answer this as well)
basically, I feel like I've reached a plateau when it comes to becoming a better Stackizen. I can ask serviceable question on all of the Stacks I'm on, and have something of a voting feel for answers (question votes are something I struggle with somewhat still though). I can edit OK (although I don't have a particularly high taste for it), and answer questions well that are "in my wheelhouse", so to speak. I do interact with review queues at least on some sites and also am sporadically...
active on metas. Where do I go from here?
 
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