The Frying Pan

Jefromi

12:02 AM

@Jolenealaska What's up?

Jolenealaska

YAY!

two in one...hold on!

Jefromi

I may or may not be geeky enough but I'm very moderate.

Jolenealaska

:) my techno geek bar is pretty low.

I have learned a bit about the freedompop service (very cheap internet) and the Lifeline service provided by my wireless carrier.

I vaguely understand tethering.

I have learned the difference between LTE and WiMAX G4.

Jefromi

uhhhh I might not be geeky enough but go on :)

Jolenealaska

Basically, in order to get the best options for free internet, I need a cell phone that can use LTE.

Those phones are rather expensive. I have talked to my lifeline provider, and they do allow tethering.

I can (by tethering) access the free internet. I can get more data (enough to fill my needs)cheaply.

I may be a techno newbie, but I am a lifelong gadget nut.

oneplus.net/2

Jefromi

12:09 AM

I have vaguely heard of those!

Jolenealaska

in just a very few seconds of looking at the website, I am drooling.

So, my question is this. Could I use that phone to access 4G service on Freedompop?

freedompop.com/home.htm

freedompop sells devices that do access LTE for less money than that really cool looking phone.

but, I will be able to buy the phone in October.

Jefromi

Yeah, the specs say it has LTE.

Jolenealaska

That much I understand, it's the tethering part that is still leaving me a little befuddled.

Jefromi

You're trying to tether phone to laptop?

Jolenealaska

no, to my desktop.

Jefromi

12:15 AM

Or that, sure. Basically any phone will support tethering, it's generally a question of whether the provider allows it.

Jolenealaska

Right now I have internet service, DSL from another company. Unfortunately, when I move, I will no longer be able to get that service.

The company that services the area I moving to won't do business with me because my mom died owing them money and apparently my name was on a contract at some point in time.

Jefromi

e.g. "Note: If you are on an Unlimited Everything plan, you will be unable to use the tethering feature once your account is throttled. After the first 1GB of LTE data is used, service is throttled to 3G speeds, and tethering disabled." (support.freedompop.com/Phones/38720730/…)

oh, and "You will also need to have Premier or FreedomPop WiFi Hotspot service activated in order to take advantage of tethering."

Presumably those two cost money, so... it depends?

Jolenealaska

I've looked at that website for quite a while and never found that. Thank you for that information.

That makes the really cool phone somewhat less attractive.

Okay, that addresses that question.

Jefromi

I'm not sure what the phone has to do with it? Unless you mean you can't afford both the phone and the higher tier service from the ISP?

Jolenealaska

it's LTE that is the issue. In order to access 4G in the area that I moving to, I need a phone (or a hotspot apparently) that can use LTE.

Jefromi

12:21 AM

Which is basically any phone or hotspot at this point.

Including the OnePlus 2, and everything that freedompop sells.

Jolenealaska

So, the fancy phone is probably not something that I would get enough benefit from, I would just get the $100 hotspot device. I'm getting a freebie from freedom pop that will give me 3G speeds for free up to 500MB, and I have 300MB that comes with my Lifeline service.

Jefromi

Ah, okay.

Jolenealaska

I think that is so slow that it will make me crazy.

But, I should be able to use this chat room and SE.

since the complex has a Wi-Fi café, I'll survive.

I think.

Jefromi

Ah, okay. Yeah, 3G isn't amazing but it's not awful either.

Jolenealaska

Which brings me to question number two.

You know I'm writing a book.

as books tend to do (according to people on the writing stack) it has taken a life of its own.

Jefromi

12:26 AM

Oh, is this about reusing things you've posted here?

Jolenealaska

The damn thing is becoming extremely stream of consciousness.

No

that question has been answered, and for the most part I am reusing stuff I have said here as a starting point for various essays.

Jefromi

Okay, sorry, go on!

Jolenealaska

What I am thinking about doing is starting and maintaining a chat room specifically for talking to myself and inviting others to look at various stuff and even form certain ideas.

For instance, one of the characters in my book is a composite. For privacy reasons, he cannot really seem like the actual person.

However, I want to maintain my half of the relationship fairly accurately.

I can do that by making the character "mostly gay".

For that reason, and because of his openness, I want to pick the ear of Jay.

Tall is a fabulous editor as far as grammatical errors and that kind of thing that pop up whether I'm typing or using Dragon.

A conversation that I'm having with rumtscho is something that I could possibly use in the book.

Jefromi

Ah, you just want me to make you a private chat room?

Jolenealaska

I can make a chat room.

it doesn't need to be private.

What I'm wondering is if it's appropriate.

Jefromi

12:31 AM

I don't really see what the problem would be.

It seems like this kind of thing would make total sense and happen all the time with people on the writing stack anyway.

Jolenealaska

Basically I would be using SA for my own purposes, completely separate from the topic of SA, it's even commercial in a sense.

Jefromi

Well, stackexchange in general, the chat's not really tied to any one site, but yeah.

That's already what you're doing if you get one-on-one coding help or cooking help or anything else in chat.

Jolenealaska

Since my friends are here, I would be inclined to do it here. I have a few other Internet buddies (from IMDb and such) who would probably not have anything to do with cooking, but could easily earn the association bonus to be allowed to enter chat here.

Jefromi

I don't know if CC license applies in chat too... possibly?

Jolenealaska

I would think so, at least in the way I would use it.

The bottom line is that you don't see a problem with me maintaining a chat room that's for no other real purpose but my ramblings with the hope that they eventually become a book?

Jefromi

12:36 AM

Well, anyway, I can't really see any problem... it's chat, you can ramble about whatever you want.

Cindy

@FaheemMitha Sleep tight. Thanks for the good wishes. :)

Jefromi

People already do. Rambling with a somewhat more defined purpose doesn't seem bad.

If there's anything that actually needs to be private you might want to find another way though, of course.

Jolenealaska

great. I'll do it soon (probably after my move). If it ever rubs you the wrong way or if you see any problems, let me know.

well the whole point is that the stories will eventually be published. So any need for privacy on my part seems odd. my email address is something that I'll let everybody know. It's just my username @ what you do before you die.com

so anybody can say anything to me privately.

Jefromi

Sure, I just mean if it were easier sometimes to discuss details that wouldn't be published in order to arrive at what you actually wanted to write.

Jolenealaska

I think email will serve that purpose just fine. I'm smiling now at what could become my list of acknowledgments.

Oh, as long as I mumble to it at least every couple of days, the chat room would remain indefinitely, right?

Jefromi

12:48 AM

It'll always be there. At some point it'll autofreeze and maybe even autodelete but it takes a while (I forget how long).

If it does freeze I can unfreeze it.

Ah here it is chat.stackexchange.com/faq#retention

As long as there's been some activity ever, it'll only be frozen, and that takes 14 days.

Jolenealaska

Nice. I think that's the perfect solution for a bunch of stuff.

Jefromi

Cool!

Jolenealaska

The instant (or at least timely) feedback could really keep me motivated. Sometimes I have the attention span of an Irish Setter, which can be a positive or a negative trying to write a book that doesn't really go anywhere in particular.

May 11 at 20:12, by ElendilTheTall

@Jolenealaska you tell stories like Grampa Simpson

Jefromi

Not sure if chat is really going to provide a lot of organization for you but at least it'll provide motivation!

Jolenealaska

The fact that it is not organized is actually useful. The book (so far) is about one third autobiographical. Those stories go in chronological order throughout the book. As stories from my life make me think of something, that becomes a chapter in and of itself.

those things are essays, visual jokes, stuff I have borrowed from other sources, and even cooking tips. The cooking tips part is directed specifically at the audience for whom I am writing the book.

I have learned a lot of tricks in the kitchen dealing with rather high-level cooking and a physical disability.

Much of the book is me speaking to a person who is facing an MS diagnosis.

There is very much an MS network. It would be very easy to use that network to sell the book, particularly as an e-book.

Jefromi

1:16 AM

Sounds like a great project!

Jolenealaska

Lord knows I've got the time

At this point (so it could certainly change), I almost feel the need to put a disclaimer on the Amazon site. If you're looking for something "faith-based", look elsewhere. I'm looking at you, Patty.

I know she means well when she tells me that she prays for me.

If her son is actually gay (which is by no means certain, since he hasn't told me), and she is really so dense as to not know, I want to be a fly on the wall when she realizes or is told.

One of her older sons was arrested as a teenager. I happened to be home and heard the message on the answering machine when she called to ask Dad for advice. That was one of the funniest two minutes of audio I have ever heard.

I had no idea she even knew that language.

Jolenealaska

1:37 AM

***no time like the present, actually

Jolenealaska

2:38 AM

BIG EARTHQUAKE

That lasted a long time, all is well here.

Cerberus

Impressive!

I've just come home.

I felt no earthquake...

Jolenealaska

:)

The USGS hasn't listed it yet.

It had a long smooth rhythm, no jolts. That probably means that it was a ways away. So perhaps bigger in magnitude than what I felt.

Yep, it was a 6.2

And it was felt all over Anchorage.

M6.2 - 69km SSW of Redoubt Volcano, Alaska

Cerberus

Nice.

Jolenealaska

2:53 AM

the shading just shows what people have reported.

I'll report now

no tsunami warning

Distance from my Zipcode 269 km, most responders in my area (from answers to a questionnaire) ranked it as having a relative intensity of being right on top of a 4 or 5.

We may not get a report from anyone who felt it up close and personal (the area is very sparsely populated), but my gut tells me that the official magnitude (6.2) is going to be upgraded.

Cerberus

3:14 AM

Interesting.

So the official magnitude isn't objectively measured by seismographs?

Jolenealaska

It is, but first hand accounts play into the final "official" magnitude.

Right now, everything is labeled preliminary.

They'll crunch numbers for a while and the report will be final in a couple of days.

it's not unusual for the final report to show a magnitude as much as .5M different than the first preliminary reports.

businessinsider.com/the-11-nations-of-the-united-states-2015-7

Cool map of US

Cerberus

3:36 AM

I see.

Jolenealaska

By no later than 1:30 am my time, I am taking the same drug that is responsible for a starred comment of mine that was up for a very long time.

I was typing total gibberish.

I go to the dentist tomorrow, and he describes sleeping on this medication the night before, and then gives you a higher dose at the appointment.

Last time the higher dose was orally just before the appointment. He has since switched to IV, during the appointment.

Cerberus

@Jolenealaska That's nice. I am glad New Netherland is the most prosperous of all, if materialistic...

Jolenealaska

SHIT!

Cerberus

Another quake?

Jolenealaska

No

Crap

Cerberus

3:44 AM

Crap is bad.

Jolenealaska

once again I have forgotten to set up my ride the night before

Cerberus

Oh, dear.

Jolenealaska

In order to use the program that I have been approved for, I need to set it up the day before.

Cerberus

I wish I could offer you help, but I can't...

Jolenealaska

I have notes to myself, including one on my monitor, that have been up for a week.

Cerberus

3:45 AM

Reschedule the appointment?

Call the program to please book a ride for you?

Jolenealaska

I have already missed one, in much the same way as I conveniently forgot to set up my ride.

Cerberus

But hey, it is past my bed time...

Jolenealaska

G'night sweetie.

Cerberus

I say call the program and ask for a last-minute ride, or call a cab, or a friendly neighbour...

Sleep well, eventually!

Jolenealaska

@Cerberus The official magnitude of the quake has already been upgraded by .2

Lots more reports. The more yellow places mean that people who have reported to the United States Geological Service have answered the questionnaire with answers that suggest that the people felt stronger shaking.

That scale is roughly analogous to the magnitude scale.

But it only refers to what the people felt from where they were standing.

Iliamna, Alaska

Iliamna (Dena'ina: Illiamna) is a census-designated place (CDP) in Lake and Peninsula Borough, Alaska, United States. The population was 109 at the 2010 census. == §Geography == Iliamna is located at 59°45′54″N 154°50′25″W (59.765135, -154.840312). Present-day Iliamna is located on the northwest side of Iliamna Lake in southwest Alaska. According to the United States Census Bureau, the CDP has a total area of 36.5 square miles (95 km2), of which, 35.9 square miles (93 km2) of it is land and 0.6 square miles (1.6 km2) of it (1.67%) is water. == §Demographics == As of the census of 2000, there were...

Nearest town, population ~110.

It is perhaps the prettiest sounding town name I've ever heard.

Jolenealaska

4:53 AM

Speaking of the population density of the earthquake area:

Lake and Peninsula Borough, Alaska

Lake and Peninsula Borough is a borough located in the state of Alaska. As of the 2010 census, the population was 1,631. The borough seat of King Salmon is actually located in neighboring Bristol Bay Borough, although is not the seat of that borough. The most populous community that actually lies within the borough is the city of Nondalton. With an average of 0.0296 inhabitants/km² (0.0767/sq mi), the Lake and Peninsula Borough is the second least densely populated organized county-equivalent in the United States; only the Yukon-Koyukuk Census Area, which is unorganized, has a lower density. ...

0.0296 inhabitants/km²

That would be elbow room.

Jolenealaska

6:20 AM

Hi sweetie!

Jolenealaska

6:58 AM

For my non-musical-loving-friends:

It's Not Just for Gays Anymore - Neil Patrick Harris

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ElendilTheTall

7:11 AM

@jolenealaska hey hon

Sorry, i just opened my phone and it was already in chrome so plainly logged me in. You can call off the search party

Jolenealaska

Hi, did have you read up at all?

ElendilTheTall

Earthquake?

Jolenealaska

that and discussing a chat room with Jefromi

and my dental appointment tomorrow which I don't have a ride to...

all of it since you left, I guess

ElendilTheTall

Hmmm. I'm not sure why you feel the need to write a book in chat. Especially a Google indexed chat.

Jolenealaska

why not?

ElendilTheTall

7:16 AM

But I'm not your mother. Or am I...? <pulls at mask>

Because A) you're essentially putting your book in the public domain and B) it's a terrible medium in which to write.

Jolenealaska

I'm not terribly concerned about a) because it isn't going to be the great American novel, no one is going to steal it.

as far as b) not necessarily - which actually leads me to a question for you.

Actually, it is as easy to experiment to get an answer as it is to word the question - so nevermind

I don't intend to write whole passages in the chat room, only to link to passages that I've written in Word.

ElendilTheTall

Lol

It's happened at last. I am surplus to requirements.

Jolenealaska

Well, well I didn't actually mean it like that! :)

ElendilTheTall

Time to move on... I've done all I can here...

fade in theme from The Littlest Hobo

Jolenealaska

I was motivated only by laziness

ElendilTheTall

7:26 AM

So long Jojo.. It's been emotional.

;D

Jolenealaska

you showed up just in time, I had started to watch a YouTube video of the saddest moments in sitcom history

ElendilTheTall

Oh jeez

Why do that to yourself

Jolenealaska

I have no idea

ElendilTheTall

You can just skip straight to the end of Scrubs and be done with it

Jolenealaska

the first clip of a long video was of scrubs

ElendilTheTall

7:29 AM

Scrubs | S08E19 | JD's Final Scene | Peter Gabriel - The Book of Love

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Jolenealaska

I never actually watched it, just caught a few moments here and there

ElendilTheTall

Tut. It's brilliant

Liso

blablabla

Why i'am getting involved

ElendilTheTall

Erm. Hello.

Liso

Hi

Jolenealaska

7:32 AM

I got that impression, I just think it was in a non-TV part of my life.

Which of course has been most of my life

Hi @Liso

Liso

Hi @Jolenealaska

Jolenealaska

I wandered back here after watching part of the scrubs video, I'll go back to it in a bit.

What brings you to our neck of the woods, Liso?

ElendilTheTall

8:02 AM

@Jolenealaska evidently he's the strong silent type

Jolenealaska

apparently

ElendilTheTall

oh man am I not in the mood for work today

y'know when you just can't be arsed? <--- yes, that's so British

Jolenealaska

One of my favorite Britishisms

ElendilTheTall

you have a list?

:D

Jolenealaska

Soon I am going to take happy sleepy drugs and go to bed.

@ElendilTheTall I can make one!

ElendilTheTall

8:05 AM

go for it

if you can be arsed :)

Jolenealaska

arsed is #1

bloody____ makes the list. Bloody brilliant is probably a favorite so that's #2

ElendilTheTall

good, good

any cockney rhyming slang in there?

take a butcher's at the apples and pears before getting on the dog and bone and having a giraffe wiv your mate?

Jolenealaska

hmmm...I can do what passes for a cockney accent, but I can't ad lib the lines.

(passes in white bread USA that is)

ElendilTheTall

for bonus English points, how is the name of the town in this article pronounced: bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-33687439

@Jolenealaska if it's anything like Dick Van Dyke's in Mary Poppins, you would fit right in in Sydney or Melbourne

Jolenealaska

glasster

ElendilTheTall

8:12 AM

ooo, bonus denied

gloss-ter

Jolenealaska

I don't remember much of anything from Mary Poppins.

ElendilTheTall

Dick Van Dyke's accent is enshrined in British cultural memory as proof that Americans Can't Do Cockney Accents

Jolenealaska

well the way I think of it is kind of between glass and gloss

ElendilTheTall

@Jolenealaska maybe you're thinking of Gloucester, Massachusetts ;)

at least you're not saying Glau-sester or some other nonsense

Jolenealaska

but I wouldn't presume to know how to do it with a cockney accent (even my not good one)

ElendilTheTall

8:15 AM

well, you probably wouldn't have much call to, Gloucester is about 3 hours from London

The Gloucestershire accent is very rural, ooo-arr, oim a farmer I is.

I believe we have already established the differing scale of British travel. London to Gloucester is like Des Moines to Chicago

Jolenealaska

There are quite a few New England towns that are pronounced very differently from the way other Americans would pronounce them based on the spelling. Outside of the Midwest, a lot of Americans don't know how to pronounce Des Moines.

ElendilTheTall

I recall reading about Norwich, New Hampshire. The old-timers say Norritch, which is the British pronunciation. The emigres from the cities say Nor-witch.

Jolenealaska

Yep...Worcester, MA is another one.

ElendilTheTall

Birmingham, Alabama

Jolenealaska

My husband grew up just outside of Boston.

ElendilTheTall

8:21 AM

we say Birmingum, no doubt all y'all pronounce it Birming-ham

Jolenealaska

yes we do.

By the time I met him, my husband had completely lost his New England accent.

So it was really funny to visit his family.

Over the first couple of hours home, he would gradually switch from the generic non-accent of a lot of military members to full on Boston twang.

ElendilTheTall

Hahvahd Yahd

Jolenealaska

yep

and pahking the caaa

ElendilTheTall

didn't hear a great deal of it when I was there

i heard some archetypal New York accents in NYC though

Jolenealaska

oh yeah

Have you seen My Cousin Vinny?

ElendilTheTall

8:27 AM

one woman said 'thanks, sweetheart' when I held the door for her, in a really broad accent. I nearly kissed her

@Jolenealaska no

Jolenealaska

That is an older movie worth watching.
Marisa Tomei won the Oscar for best supporting actress...

which is almost unheard of for a purely comic role.

ElendilTheTall

I'm aware of it... Joe Pesci. Courtroom.

Marisa Tomei is lovely

Jolenealaska

It is worth watching for Marissa Tomei.

her courtroom scene was comic perfection

as was her chemistry with Joe Pesci

ElendilTheTall

British advertising

Jolenealaska

Fred Gwynne (Herman Munster) was fun to watch as the judge, too.

I don't get it.

ahh

ok

ElendilTheTall

8:33 AM

no bullshitting about how it's a taste sensation

Jolenealaska

that reminds me.... This video cracked me up several times:

Top 10 Funny Banned Commercials

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most of the lists of banned commercials disappoint, but this video was good.

ElendilTheTall

Volkswagen banned tv commercial Bollocks

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^ so British

Jolenealaska

Bollocks!! #3

cute

I looked at the BBC article you linked to, the cat pawprint story is pretty cool

ElendilTheTall

it's fascinating

Jolenealaska

that reminds me of something...

Have you ever seen a mint condition super-old coin? Like 100 or 200 years, not ancient Roman or anything like that.

ElendilTheTall

8:43 AM

probably

100-200 years isn't super old, but yes, probably :)

Jolenealaska

I've thought of having something like a Civil War era silver dollar.

ElendilTheTall

and having it made into a ring?

Jolenealaska

A coin like that in mint condition would be extraordinarily valuable,

one that is beat up would be considerably less valuable.

So, if I could have one or the other I'd pick the mint condition one because I'd sell it, but...

I'd rather have (to keep, admire and show off) the beat up one.

ElendilTheTall

wait

so your point is... you want to buy an old coin?

Jolenealaska

no

I'm imagining finding one, or inheriting one or something.

I would not buy a coin for any reason. Or a stamp. Or a piece of art that's actually worth anything.

ElendilTheTall

8:48 AM

ah

Jolenealaska

I'm very non-sentimental that way.

but the beat up one would be interesting because I can imagine the stories it could tell (you know, if coins could talk)

ElendilTheTall

yes

Jolenealaska

the one that has been sitting in a vault has had a very boring existence

ElendilTheTall

have you seen rings made from older, high silver content coins?

etsy.com/uk/shop/TheCoinSmith

Jolenealaska

No, but I swiped a silver spoon once to make a ring in jewelry class!

ElendilTheTall

8:53 AM

you drill a hole in the middle, whack it over a mandrel, then polish and shape it

Jolenealaska

The first time I drove through Canada on my way to Alaska, I had kind of a funny introduction to Canadian currency.

The feds have tried to make a dollar coin that Americans will actually use.

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