The Frying Pan

Well, we've always had snackbars where lots of deep-friend food, like fries and kroketten. Nothing American about that. Although nowadays they will usually serve hamburgers too. But no other American fastfood, I think; just other kind of "traditional" fast food.

SAJ14SAJ

What is traditional? Raw herring?

Cerberus

Well, we have various kind of meat balls. And frikandellen, which are a disgusting kind of meatball/sausage.

Heh no, raw herring isn't sold in snack bars.

A herring stand may sell it on the street, but not a regular snackbar.

SAJ14SAJ

Raw fish is street food?

frikandellen... If i was linguist, I would think that "en" is some kind of noun declension affix, perhaps plural.

What is a frikandellen?

Cerberus

@SAJ14SAJ Raw herring only, along with all sorts of deep-fried fish.

@SAJ14SAJ Correct!

Actually, I misspelled: it's frikadellen.

SAJ14SAJ

That is almost a multi-lingual pun.

Freak-a-delic :-)

Cerberus

12:49 AM

A disgusting kind of meatball-sausage. I've never eaten one.

@SAJ14SAJ Haha.

SAJ14SAJ

What makes it disgusting?

Is this them?

Frikadeller

Frikadeller are flat, pan-fried dumplings of minced meat, often likened to the Danish version of meatballs. They are a popular dish in Germany, where they are known as Frikadellen, Buletten, Fleischküchle or "Fleischpflanzerl", Denmark, the Faroe Islands, Norway, Poland, Russia, Estonia, Ukraine, the Netherlands and in South Africa, where they form part of the Afrikaner culinary heritage. In Sweden, poached quenelles are called frikadeller and are usually served in soup. Many variations of frikadeller exist but traditionally they are made of minced veal, pork or beef (or a blend of two ...

Cerberus

@SAJ14SAJ Huh, weird. They look nothing like that here. Much more...disgusting.

Oh huh, wtf. There is a spelling issue that Wiki alludes to.

What I meant was this:

SAJ14SAJ

I can see you are a true fan of this aspect of your national cuisine.

Cerberus

Frikandel

A frikandel (plural frikandellen) is a Dutch snack, a sort of minced-meat hot dog, developed either in 1954 or in 1958/1959 in the Netherlands, depending on the source. Overview It is a long, skinless, dark-coloured meat sausage which is usually eaten on warm to hot temperature. Unlike most sausages, the frikandel is deep-fried, unless included in a frikandellen broodje, in that case they are finished by baking. In Belgium and in the north of France it is called a "frikadel", "fricandelle" or "fricadelle". In the Flanders region of Belgium, it can also be called "curryworst" (not to be...

SAJ14SAJ

I live close to Baltimore, Maryland, and I don't like crabs. Especially soft crabs. At least, not served in the shell.

I cannot read Dutch you know.

Cerberus

12:58 AM

@SAJ14SAJ We have a cuisine, really? I must be an expert at concealment, then, preferably behind disgusting rubbish!

@SAJ14SAJ Read the picture.

SAJ14SAJ

Cerberus

There, changed the link for you.

SAJ14SAJ

It mostly looks like french fries.

Cerberus

No, it's the sausage thing.

SAJ14SAJ

And a small inoffensive sausage hiding on the edge?

Cerberus

12:59 AM

Does it look gross, or would you rather call it disgusting?

SAJ14SAJ

Its looks kind of like.. .what is the name of that persian sausage? Not done in a case?

It doesn't look particularly unappetizing to me.

I would probably eat it, but not that nasty mayo.

Cerberus

Hehe.

The mayo is just to give you an idea of what the frikandel must be like.

Bit of horse hoof.

SAJ14SAJ

I see... I just don't get it. What is in the sausage that displeases you so?

Cerberus

I don't know. Perhaps it's not so bad. It is the lowest-quality meat in existence, or so they say, and very fatty.

Never tried it.

It's also a class thing.

SAJ14SAJ

I have never tried boudin, and wouldn't want to, so I understand. I feel the same way about scraple.

Cerberus

1:02 AM

Nobody I know ever eats it.

Ugh, blood sausage.

SAJ14SAJ

I feel about blood sausage the way you do about the Frik.

Cerberus

I may or may not have tried blood sausage in the past. It is decidedly unappealing.

SAJ14SAJ

Do you like soft shelled crabs?

I feel they are disgusting.

Cerberus

!

Never seen such a thing!

Are they a special breed? An uncommon species?

SAJ14SAJ

They are regular bay crabs.

Right after they molt.

So they are soft.

And 100% edible.

Cerberus

1:11 AM

Hmm.

SAJ14SAJ

People take them, deep fry them, and eat them whole.

Cerberus

Didn't we dislike arthropods?

I am prepared to eat crab meat if it's properly prepared.

But...

SAJ14SAJ

We hate arthropods, yes.

And mushrooms.

Cerberus

There you go.

SAJ14SAJ

But not fried whole with everything still inside. Icky, icky, ick double ick!

Cerberus

1:12 AM

Of course, mushrooms are far beyond any evil that the animal kingdom could possibly unleash upon us.

But, yes, those crabs sound pretty bad.

SAJ14SAJ

I don't know, I might rather eat a mushroom than, say, raw polar bear liver.

Cerberus

Haha.

I'd have to see it.

I can eat liver.

I can even mildly enjoy bird liver on toast.

Like...foie gras.

SAJ14SAJ

I am not generally a liver fan. i have to not know it is in something :-)

Cerberus

1:29 AM

Heh. I'm not a fan either.

SAJ14SAJ

And here I had the stereotype of all Europeans based on the French: red wine guzzling, liver and pate munching mushroom lovers!

Cerberus

Haha.

I'm sure it's entirely fair when describing the French.

Most people like liver pâté here, that much is true. I just don't.

My stereotype of you is that of barbecuing, cupcake-eating, cheesecake-making, supersized binge eaters!

I really like cheesecake btw, best thing your ever came up with.

Mien

9:59 AM

@derobert @SAJ14SAJ I was on my PC last night, as usual. But fsr, the chat wasn't loaded...

derobert

3:35 PM

@Mien If that's all, what was the disaster that made the ECB ready to act?

Mien

ECB as in European Central Bank?

I have no idea what you're talking about :D What did they do?

SAJ14SAJ

Hey guys.

derobert

@Mien There was a news article yesterday saying they were ready to take action if needed.

Mien

What action?

Hi @SAJ14SAJ

derobert

@Mien Who knows? Central banks never say. Just "action".

Mien

3:47 PM

Lol.

Sounds like assassins to me.

derobert

Wow, I wonder what a central bank with assassins would be like.

Having a hard time imagining that one.

Would certainly make a difference when they give their reports to whichever legislative body. An hour or two of putting the congresscritters/MPs to sleep, then five minutes of reporting on heads that rolled, ...

Cerberus

@derobert Yeah it seemed a little...vacuous.

derobert

Oooh, maybe the assassins would be used on the congresscritters/MPs

When they ask stupid questions.

Cerberus

Haha.

derobert

Though it'd be hard to beat Guam capsizing.

Cerberus

3:56 PM

Hmm?

SAJ14SAJ

???

Cerberus

Guam has capsided?

Again?

derobert

LOL, no, that was a couple years back

Cerberus

Ah.

Must have been a pretty big wave.

derobert

►

Cerberus

3:58 PM

OMG.

This poor man has a speech impediment in addition to a thought impediment.

derobert

Yes, you have to make it through about 1:10 to get to the start of the good sentence.

I don't think Bernanke has actually been asked anything stupider than that.

Cerberus

My God.

There are three extremely serious and entirely unrelated problems with that page.

1. Congressman thinks an island can tip over if you put some people on it.

2. Comment declaring that "this is why all blacks should be shipped back to Africa".

3. Comment having the most upvotes being a spam link.

> Top Comments - lite ash - 4 days ago - sure is right. that was a ipad3 in the parcel which i got from Apple-YT questionnaire content last week. Listen, make sure you tell the address and email properly to send the giftbox. if you wanna try just try now > bit.ly/ZGRUhS?=fuhqa

derobert

Problem "2" and "3" are a well-known problem called YouTube.

Cerberus

The link resolves to some spam site.

@derobert Really? Is it normal for a spam link to have 16 up-votes?

derobert

No, that isn't quite normal.

Cerberus

4:06 PM

Worrying.

derobert

I wonder how much sockpuppetry that took.

Cerberus

It's too much.

derobert

Indeed. I fear a sock puppet invasion.

Maybe I'd better start obtaining my own sock puppets for self-defense.

Cerberus

Wise.

I can put on three socks max.

SAJ14SAJ

@derobert I begin to realize that sock puppets somehow represent a special terror for you. Perhaps therapy is indicated.

@Cerberus Four paws, three snouts, and a tail--you should be able to handle eight socks.

Cerberus

4:09 PM

Heh.

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ No, the solution to other people having sock puppets is just to get bigger sock puppets. Just like guns.

Cerberus

I should brush up on my ventriloquism, them.

derobert

Or more sock puppets. Either way.

SAJ14SAJ

@derobert I think your sock puppet phobia is warping your perceptions.... deep breath. Think of rag dolls.

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ Wait, how is thinking of a supervillian going to help in this situation?

One which I previously was unaware of, no less.

SAJ14SAJ

4:13 PM

@derobert You leave me speechless. Fortunately, we are typing.

derobert

I just asked Wikipedia! So it can't even count as obscure.

SAJ14SAJ

Ratowo-Leśniczówka

Ratowo-Leśniczówka is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Radzanów, within Mława County, Masovian Voivodeship, in east-central Poland. References

Everything on Wikipedia is truly of world-wide note!

derobert

Hmmm. That article isn't even a stub. I'm not sure it counts.

SAJ14SAJ

No place to put a hand or a foot. Completely non-threatening.

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ Indeed. Far less threatening than the penguin-chef.

SAJ14SAJ

4:16 PM

Even cuter ragdoll, although I don't approve of the mutation being preserved.

derobert

That second one is more threatening. It can probably scratch you and tear up your furniture.

And force you to clean its litter box day after day.

SAJ14SAJ

It probably can. But they have a true weakness... if you pick them up, they go limp. Like kryptonite to superman.

@Mien Derobert is implying you are threatening. Rebuttal?

@derobert I think you need a kitten!

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ I don't think you're going to get a rebuttal. She's going to add me to the stockpot if she ever finds my hiding spot.

SAJ14SAJ

@derobert Scary! Perhaps you should give up your mycophillic ways!

derobert

I'm not sure if being a mushroom can be labeled as 'mycophillic'

And its not that easy to give up...

SAJ14SAJ

4:29 PM

Its a lifestyle choice, I am sure!

You just have to decide

[Note: the above two lines are ironic.]

derobert

You ruin the sarcasm when you label it!

SAJ14SAJ

@derobert That was meta-sarcasm. And I didn't want anyone to think I really thought that.

derobert

4:42 PM

@Mien, OTOH, is a shapeshifter. She can change!

Maybe even to something that doesn't eat mushrooms.

SAJ14SAJ

@derobert Penguins, of any number of arms, do not eat mushrooms.

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ They also don't wear chef outfits. I'd always assumed penguin-chef was a different species than penguin.

SAJ14SAJ

I am sure the chef outfit is artistic licence.

derobert

Wait, does that mean she's actually sitting at her computer in traditional penguin garb, i.e., nothing?

SAJ14SAJ

Tuxedo

derobert

4:50 PM

Does she at least speak (type?) in the silly pseudo-French accent of Alton Brown's grumpy French chef?

(it is of course traditional to confuse Belgium with France. Or rather, to believe Belgians are French)

SAJ14SAJ

Its really hard to hear an accent in typed text... I think you need some coffee. Or something :-)

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ That tux-wearing penguin is weird. Lord knows what it eats.

SAJ14SAJ

Fish

derobert

But, so far as we know, @Mien eats pies, mushrooms, and cookies

SAJ14SAJ

I am sure she meant fish.

Which is a far sight better than what mushrroms eat.

derobert

4:54 PM

@SAJ14SAJ I'm nut soore-a ebuoot eccunts in text. Zeere-a is zee vhule-a filters peckege-a vheech is ell ebuoot zeem!

(Bork Bork Bork!)

SAJ14SAJ

Meow?

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ Most mushrooms eat perfectly fine things. Like fallen trees.

Or "fallen" cows. Those are tasty.

SAJ14SAJ

Cow patties maybe.

derobert

That's the poor homeless mushrooms...

Swedish Chef

The Swedish Chef is a Muppet that appeared on The Muppet Show. He was originally operated by Jim Henson and Frank Oz simultaneously, and is now puppeteered by Bill Barretta. Character A parody of television chefs, the Swedish Chef wears a toque blanche and has bushy eyebrows that completely obscure his eyes. He was one of the few Muppets to employ an actual puppeteer's hands, originally Oz's, in the designs – that is, they were visible to the audience through his sleeves and facilitated handling food and utensils. Nearly all Swedish Chef sketches begin with him in a kitchen, waving so...

SAJ14SAJ

I think mushrooms eat whatever they can get their mycelliums into.

derobert

4:59 PM

@SAJ14SAJ Well, there are a lot of mushroom species. Different ones prefer different things.

SAJ14SAJ

I think of you as a crimini, and we know what they eat!

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ Aha, but you have no actual evidence I'm A. bisporus.

And I'm not telling.

SAJ14SAJ

I get to assume!

derobert

Hmm. Then I may have to figure out what to assume you are. What's the chance an actual human showed up in this room? Pretty slim.

I mean, everyone that showed up before at first appeared to be a human, but we found out soon enough.

human? nope, robot. Human? nope, shapeshifter. Human? nope, mushroom. Human? nope, citrus. Etc.

Though I guess we first guessed you were a cat, so "cat? nope, human" might work. But still seems unlikely.

SAJ14SAJ

On the internet, no one knows you are a dog.

derobert

5:09 PM

Aha! Human, nope, dog!

SAJ14SAJ

Its an expression from when you were about 12.

derobert

But we already have a dog here. Though it has three heads.

SAJ14SAJ

Do we have a partition rule?

derobert

I don't think we have any rules, other than the one that keeps on-topic chatter to a minimum.

SAJ14SAJ

Hmm.... that one is a tough rule.

We can talk about the effects of slow neutrons on a stained reaction. That would be okay!

derobert

5:12 PM

Well, we've never had any trouble following the "keep on-topic conversation to a minimum" rule.

SAJ14SAJ

We talked about peppers yesterday.

And pizza.

And sweet and savory foods.

derobert

Yep. But it was only a few lines. Think how many lines we just devoted to random stuff.

SAJ14SAJ

Hmmm.... chat stats?

derobert

I don't know of any other than those on the info page. But it'd be cool to build some...

SAJ14SAJ

Let your unixy geekdom run free

derobert

5:15 PM

You'd just have to pull the logs, then run it through programming-language-of-choice.

So you could do C# too, if you wanted.

SAJ14SAJ

That would be too much like my work.

derobert

LOL

But you could compute all kinds of useless, silly, and meaninglessness statistics! Oh, wait...

yeah

SAJ14SAJ

You know there is an online SQL inquiry tool for SA that you can use. Or any SE site.

The data is a month old though, generally.

derobert

yep, the data explorer

I wonder if chat is part of it. Or the data dumps.

SAJ14SAJ

I don't reacall it in the schema. Chat is the red headed stepchild of SA.

derobert

5:20 PM

Didn't see it in the schema either, on a quick look.

Mien

@SAJ14SAJ I like penguins!

@derobert All true.

You know everything about me.

SAJ14SAJ

They are kind of cute for aquatic dinosaurs.

derobert

Wow, we talked enough behind your back to finally draw your attention?

SAJ14SAJ

The question is @Mien would you put @derobert in your stock pot?

derobert

She'll never catch me!

SAJ14SAJ

5:24 PM

Mushrooms are not mobile.

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ I dare say you've scared her away. That's an accomplishment!

@SAJ14SAJ You didn't think they could type either, so I think your mushroom expertise is questionable at best.

SAJ14SAJ

Grh.

derobert

(Hmmm, the SE data dump is <12G, maybe I'll just grab it to find out if chat is in it...)

Mien

@derobert I was making dinner and eat it ;)

SAJ14SAJ

fish?

derobert

5:31 PM

pie?

Mien

Chicken.

SAJ14SAJ

Penguins don't eat chicken!

derobert

So maybe I am right that penguin and penguin-chef are different species, not just a penguin with artistic license.

SAJ14SAJ

Its hard to credit a fungus with being right!

Mien

There was no fungus involved.

derobert

5:51 PM

My two new basil plants look OK. The rosemary doesn't look too great :-(

Color is wrong, blame cell phone camera in the dark

Basil apparently comes in purple, too

Cerberus

Wow, I had no idea. Cool.

Mien

6:23 PM

I knew about purple basil, but it is indeed cool.

There is also a lemon thyme or something similar. I'm curious about that.

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ you'll be happy to know, we both agree about closing a question this time!

meta.cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/1719/… ... I put my answer on that

SAJ14SAJ

@derobert I saw....

In between crazy work stuff.

I have been in meetings since 10:15 pretty much.

But we still need one more close vote!

I still think the whole thing was a prank.

derobert

Not sure about prank, probably just an attempt to have a "let's play with microwaves" discussion on physics.SE.

Which they then failed to recognize as an attempt to have that discussion, and thought it was a serious cooking question

SAJ14SAJ

Hmm.... you read it more generously than I do.

Before the comments got cleaned up on our side, they were treating it as a joke on that side as well.

derobert

6:48 PM

Yeah. I read the comments over there.

Some of them thought it was trolling, others wanted to be more generous

Thankfully, don't have to figure that out over here—either way it gets closed.

Neither "let's play with microwaves" nor trolling should remain open on cooking.se

SAJ14SAJ

What about recipes for cat food cooked in the microwave?

Mushroom free, of course, cats being obligate carnivores.

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ Well, recipe requests are off-topic. Nice try.

SAJ14SAJ

Health benefits of cat food?

What goes with cat food?

derobert

@SAJ14SAJ Hmmm, that one, I think we should migrate to Physics.SE.

@SAJ14SAJ At least in nature, cat food seems to be fairly quickly paired with a cat.

Which remains alive (unless a bigger cat shows)

SAJ14SAJ

The relationship is short lived.

Cat battles are rarely determined by size, oddly enough.

derobert

6:56 PM

Indeed. But recurring.

@SAJ14SAJ Oh? DETAILS! (please provide)

Are you an expert in cat battles?

SAJ14SAJ

My smallest cat routinely routes my largest cat, who literally outwieghs her 2:1.

Also female cats tend to be more aggressive.

And I really have to focus for the next half hour at least.... talk to you soon.

derobert

Ah, I was thinking of a bigger cat, like say a lion.

Not a larger housecat.

SAJ14SAJ

Very few lions or panthers in my house.

derobert

I hope not!

Though its possible you have a Jaguar.

People do keep those at their houses, sometimes.

SAJ14SAJ

That is just wrong on all counts.

derobert

7:02 PM

I think they normally keep them in the garage, though.

rumtscho

7:57 PM

Wow, a catfight in the frying pan! Or at least a discussion of a catfight.

I am at a concert with half an hour break between the supporting act and the band. Reading the transcript provided an amusing diversion.

Aha, band finally appeared onstage

SAJ14SAJ

@rumtscho Hi!

@derobert I was talking to Gartner and my boss when two of my cats went at it for a minute!

derobert

8:24 PM

@Jefromi instead of trying to chat on comments...

There are actually ways to shield parts of dishes from microwave energy, and its a useful thing to do at times.

E.g., this microwave manual suggests using aluminum foil

and I think USDA has some guidelines too

derobert

8:45 PM

It's time to go home.

rumtscho

9:52 PM

I'm back home

I'm glad I went to that concert, it was a very nice band

Junip

Junip is a Swedish band featuring Elias Araya, Tobias Winterkorn, and José González. They released Black Refuge EP at the end of 2005. After a five year hiatus, the band released Fields on September 14, 2010. On December 12, 2012 the band announced the release of the new self titled album in April 2013. New material was premièred during the Junip concert in Dortmund, Germany in May 2012. The German online newspaper Intro.de reported: They saved on song announcements, except for when they presented exclusive song material (>>Line of Fire

SAJ14SAJ

10:46 PM

Glad you had a good time @rumtscho

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