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12:52 AM
@Adnan Well honestly it's not like I need or want a new job, but this is the second time this has happened.
 
 
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2:34 AM
@DavidFreitag Wasn't there some issues at your current company? Getting decent offers is always a good thing.
 
@TerryChia Yeah some, but right now they are really my only path through college
I mean there are always scholarships and grants but that won't cover it all and I don't want a loan.
 
@DavidFreitag Ahh. Hey, if the people giving you offers want you badly enough there's always room for negotiation.
 
@TerryChia Above all of that, I'm not entirely sure I want to move to DC
 
@DavidFreitag Ah yeah, that may be an issue. :)
Remote work may be an option though.
 
@TerryChia Remote isn't really an option for me. I have next to no productivity at home. I would have to rent local office space just to work remotely.
 
2:39 AM
@DavidFreitag Oh that sucks. :( I work best at home.
 
@TerryChia Home is for relaxing, not working.
 
@DavidFreitag There isn't a difference for me. :)
 
I don't even do homework at home. It's how I stay sane working 40 hours a week on top of 20 hours a week of classes
 
My work pattern is random 30 minutes burst of productivity scattered throughout the day so a place where I can do other stuff throughout the day while waiting for that burst is ideal.
 
My productivity peaks the longer I have been awake. The more tired I am the better I can focus on the task at hand.
 
2:44 AM
My main problem is that I cannot work on one thing for too long in one go, so I usually have 4-5 projects I switch between when i get bored.
 
That's the problem I have with all of my personal projects. Lack of direction breeds stagnation.
 
@DavidFreitag Yeah, that's why I contribute to existing projects. Having a pull request open with comments that needs to be addressed is enough of a poke for me to continue working on it. :)
 
@TerryChia Heh, existing projects are no fun. I love the hardware, but recently I have found the software side of my projects is becoming much less fun.
 
@DavidFreitag It's fun enough for me, plus you learn a lot from people reviewing your patches. Looks good on a resume as well if the project has significance.
 
@TerryChia Yeah that's a good point
 
3:14 AM
Heh, I just realized. lab49's DC office is on Dupont Circle which is just a mile away from the white house
 
 
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5:06 AM
Morning, Scotland. Today's the day.
 
 
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7:09 AM
> The final result is likely to be announced between 07:00 and 07:30 on 19 September
So, we'll have to wait until tomorrow
 
@Adnan for international Talk Like a Pirate Day? Hell yeaaarrrrrr
@FEichinger that's hilarious
 
7:45 AM
i just grabbed some code from like half a year ago when i was still in class learning the utter basics as reference...
my eyes are bleeding
no nesting, horrible unstable shizzle, un-needed functions
just ew
 
@Lighty How is "no nesting" a bad thing?
 
@TerryChia nesting is using the tab button to make code more readable, right?
 
@Lighty That's called "indentation".
 
@TerryChia ahh, thanks, my teacher called it nesting, so obviously everyone called it so too
 
@Lighty Nesting is more like for loops within for loops etc.
 
8:42 AM
@TerryChia Ah, the awesome performance of a loop in a loop in a loop. These were horrible days.
 
@Arperum Even ignoring performance it's completely horrible to read.
List comprehensions ftw!
 
@TerryChia There is always a worse piece of code out there.
 
insert PHP joke here
 
I've had multiple situations of code I found that should have ended on TDWTF.
But then I was to lazy to submit them.
 
8:45 AM
@Arperum You mean every single node.js program ever? Nested callbacks is fucking stupid.
 
@TerryChia I haven't seen any node.js code yet, I hope to keep it that way.
 
@Arperum I have been out of programming since before Simon was born - are nested loops a bad thing now?
 
@RoryAlsop Yeah, I'd imagine HR managers don't write much code. :P
 
@TerryChia So yesterday I interviewed someone, today I have had a mentoring meeting with a girl from an adjacent team...yeah - I'm definitely in HR now
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im reading through the chat transcript (full 19 pages) with my name as a filter
its the stry of how a new guy gets burned and stomped to death
very amusing
 
9:01 AM
@Lighty what does it look like if you replace @lighty with @simon
 
@RoryAlsop i don't want to do that, im too young to get weird diseases
 
@Lighty ewww
My transcript would probably be of a happy security tech who ends up in HR hell with only his mid-life crisis rock band as a release
:-)
or something
 
im seeing too much lines in mine where im like "i didnt know i was that horrible"
 
@Lighty You just added one.
 
or more like "past me, wht the swear where you thinking"
 
9:06 AM
@RoryAlsop uggh, I have to start that now too... :-S
 
@RoryAlsop Not necessary, but if you can do some code in a way that runs faster, why not?
@Lighty Yea, that might be the reason for the stomping and burning.
 
tat transcript is the living proof people love me the way i am <3
 
@Arperum I think alternatives may have arrived after I stopped being a programmer...
 
ymean, like stone and chisel?
 
i wonder who's older, the Tigger, or Rory.A
 
9:18 AM
oh please. Orders of magnitude of difference.
I may be older, but @RoryAlsop is ancient.
 
@AviD Yeah - imagine a sabre-toothed Tigger
actually
 
heh
 
that sounds pretty cool
 
@RoryAlsop actually, you've seen one?
had one as a pet?
the first one was a genetically modified cat you did for a school project?
damn, why am I so cranky when I'm on the internet.
 
@AviD age
 
9:20 AM
@Lighty yours?
yeah that makes sense.
 
@RoryAlsop Not necessary, it's just that sometimes you see code that does things in such a stupid way that it actually physically hurts.
 
@AviD lol
 
nonono, that old people are more cranky :3
my grandpa was really cranky
 
@Arperum oh, I totally agree on that. I still see amusing COBOL/Java interfaces that make very little sense
 
@Lighty beeecaaauuse of the immaturity of all youse damn kids. Right.
 
9:21 AM
@AviD glad to hear im doing my job right ^^
 
@Lighty you only know that he was cranky when you were around.
 
he was always cranky, ALWAYS
 
as far as you know
 
smiking his cigarette
working on random stuff in the shed
if it wasnt a bike, he would make random stuff with DC motors and such
and me as little kid would walk in to see what hes doing
teaching me stuff
 
@RoryAlsop I've literally facedesked in pure frustration before. Because ohgodwhy.
 
9:22 AM
as a 6-y old i knew how to make a CO2 cannon
 
@Lighty How do you smike?
 
and at age 9 i could use power tools, saws and a dremel
@Arperum *smoke
 
@Lighty I was fully aware, just wanted to point it out to you, hoping I'd get some original response :( no such luck.
 
@Arperum sorry, dindt have enough tea for those responses
 
@Arperum Isn't the phrase "I am smiking a faaag"
</waynetta slob>
 
9:26 AM
www.badumtss.com
 
@RoryAlsop I bet you invented the AbstractFactoryFactoryBeanFactory pattern.
 
@TerryChia pshaw. When @RoryAlsop was still coding, symbols were restricted to 8 letters.
the only pattern they had was straight lines.
 
@TerryChia and when I invented beans, there were no symbols...
I had to do everything in 4 chemicals - G, C, A and T
 
ah, you programmed in DNA.
so @RoryAlsop really is god.
 
9:34 AM
@AviD Only the god of rock, Darth
 
heh
 
I self-googled earlier... some results are odd:
 
I don't get it?
 
@AviD apparently it's on a skeptics.SE post that I voted to close - on North Korea. But it just amused me that pic turned up. I didn't add the red circle
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Q: Has North Korea threatened a preemptive strike on the USA or its allies?

MewAccording to various news articles, such as this, North Korea is threatening to mercilessly attack the USA or it's allies. This is a quote from the article: "North Korea's supreme military command said in a statement this morning that The White House and Pentagon had been notified that "reckles...

it's odd what google picks out though
 
@RoryAlsop ah yes, that funny thing he has on his hat is commonly known as an "alsop".
 
9:50 AM
@RoryAlsop considering the radar signature of that hat, it wouldn't be too difficult either
oh wait that's the other way around
"morning"
heh it gets worse ...
helipad hats!!
 
@RoryAlsop The cool type or the whiny kid type?
 
@TerryChia cool type, obviously
 
hi
 
10:06 AM
@Omen morning
 
good evening!
 
?
 
slightly ominous wording there
 
slightly??
 
10:10 AM
specific wording aside, that's the same as pretty much any large company warning
 
@RoryAlsop I know, but they could elaborate a bit more, not everyone will be happy with it especially since it's on a publicly accessible site they're gonna host a publicly accessible event loc.gov/loc/kluge/news/nasa-program-2014.html
As it reads, I could as well interpret it as "we're gonna install a keylogger on your system and can use it whenever we want just because you visited this page"
 
@TildalWave ahh - yes.
 
@TildalWave Waddaya mean install? Isn't it already there? ;)
 
@TerryChia Well, each time I type something an press enter, anyone in the DMZ can read it. So ... yes?
 
@TildalWave damn you NSA!
 
10:20 AM
@AviD s/NSA/NASA
 
Must be the female gamer conspiracy.
 
"Not As Such Agency"
 
@TildalWave who do you think NASA gets to do all the system monitoring for them....? ;-)
 
@AviD they have space?
 
huh?
 
10:46 AM
NASA has space, surely
NSA has data. About all of us
 
What I meant was that to store all that data you need [access to a lot of] space ;)
 
@TildalWave I know that's what you meant, but it was far too good an opportunity
 
ahhh, so NSA is just collection, NASA is storage?
 
Well they just launched a secretive CLIO mission that nobody really knows what it was for ... In Greek mythology, Clio is a muse of history (read that out loud fast)
 
0
Q: What is the algorithm of bcrypt?

Anandu M DasIn many places I have heard that people recommend to use the bcrypt algorithm to save password and all. What is the algorithm used in bcrypt?

needs to be closed, but for what reason?
 
10:59 AM
@AviD unclear what he's asking?
 
@TildalWave oh its pretty clear. "Can someone read the wikipedia page and explain it to me like I'm a derp?"
 
@AviD doesn't that make it unclear [why someone would go through trouble of writing a question about something you can find all about in half the time]?
 
heh. that is "unclear WHY you are asking" as opposed to "WHAT you are asking"
but yknow what, yeah I'll go with that with a comment.
 
Thats Ok. But what is Blowfish Cipher? — Anandu M Das 1 hour ago
Well, at least it's clear WHY he's asking it. He's unable to follow links for some reason.
Maybe you should link him to how links work in the comment?
 
ohhh ymean youre supposed to click on those underliney things??
 
11:05 AM
Underlined? You're old!
 
to be fair, he's probably only about as old as @Lighty, so this is his first time on the internet.
meh, what am I saying, my 1yo browses around just fine.
wow, dat yoozer.
pile of crap questions, only half-way decent one I found so far, I just closed as a duplicate.
 
gotta love questions that are merely (vague) statements with no real question in them security.stackexchange.com/questions/67581/…
You're asking if we can identify trends in passwords by not viewing the passwords? — raz 20 hours ago
 
and then there is one that is almost a dupe, but in fact is asking about the underlying basics. almost but not quite closing.
not even "101" type q, it's a high-school prereq.
 
@ManishEarth It's gonna be closed as a dupe of Scotland :P
 
11:14 AM
lol
 
NPR talking to some Scots about the independence vote. I couldn't understand them but I think this was the gist. http://t.co/G3wfQsrxWP
 
11:26 AM
Has anyone already suggested Scotland.SE on A51?
 
@TildalWave :|
 
I'm not sure what you are asking that is not clearly answered on Wikipedia page for Bcrypt? If you have a specific question please clarify. — AviD ♦ 24 mins ago
That link doesn't exactly link to wikipedia @AviD
 
Oh BTW I'm impartial to all of this. I'll support whatever they decide is the right way for them, and that's about all I think of it.
I have a lot stronger opinion on England tho :)
 
@Arperum Asshole @AviD
 
@Arperum what? of course it does.
;-)
oops, copypaste moron.
ftfm
 
11:29 AM
@Arperum huh? Links for me
 
@TildalWave @AviD fixed it
 
@TildalWave He cheated.
 
@AviD You mods and your super-edits
 
@TildalWave heehee, modninja
 
@Adnan and the fix percolated to the onebox thingy here too?
@AviD ohh
didn't notice
 
11:30 AM
@TildalWave ahh I'm sneaky that way
 
@TildalWave he edited the message with nothing to update it. It is evil and cheaty.
 
@Arperum and overall constructive.
 
@Arperum so what was it linking to before?
 
making you look stupid is just a bonus.
 
gee thanks
 
11:32 AM
2 mins ago, by Adnan
@Arperum Asshole @AviD
 
thats the synopsis of being a mod, right there.
@TildalWave no, him.
 
@TildalWave To the question itself.
 
@TildalWave same question? didnt notice.
that.... that could have gone awfully sideways.
 
@Arperum hehehe that'd teach him to click on links :))
damn keyboard maybe I should buy a new one
this one has NASA keylogger in it
 
@TildalWave great. now its just a matter of time till we are swamped with all these "NASA is eavesdropping on me!" questions
 
12:02 PM
Guys, anybody knows a good non-Internet tool that can inspect SSL stuff of a server?
To see the supported cipher suites basically
Guys, a bit urgent
I'm having an active brain fart
 
@Adnan Too vusy shouting "AYE"?
 
12:19 PM
Oh, found a good one. SSLScan
 
12:46 PM
@Adnan I wrote one. github.com/Ayrx/tlsenum
 
foundstone used to have SSLDigger, tho I have a feeling it is not up to date, if it is even still available.
@RоryMcCune and other Ruby / RoR folks: Can rubylang itself be updated as a gem?
 
@AviD not as far as I'm aware
 
@RоryMcCune Write a gem that grabs the latest Ruby binary from the downloads page? ;)
 
hmm. so hypothetically, if you have a ruby app, is there any way of knowing or managing what version of ruby it uses?
 
ruby isn't delivered as a gem. It's either installed by the system (apt, yum etc), installed from source either manually or via rvm and the like, or installed by a binary installer (eg rubyinstaller on windows)
 
12:49 PM
or is that purely a runtime / deployment issue? ala JDK version etc
 
@AviD yah rvm
 
@RоryMcCune rvm? I'll look into that, thanks!
 
@RоryMcCune That's a deployment thing though.
 
you can use a .ruby-version file IIRC which specifies the version to be used..
 
Does Ruby have something like Python's sys.version function?
 
12:51 PM
@TerryChia yeah, was just gonna say.
 
and rvm/rbenv (IIRC I don't use rbenv) will recognise the statement
 
@RоryMcCune is that rvm-specific?
 
168
Q: Use rvmrc or ruby-version file to set a project gemset with RVM?

Daniel KehoeI use RVM, the Ruby Version Manager to specify a Ruby version and a set of gems for each of my Rails projects. I have a .rvmrc file to automatically select a Ruby version and gemset whenever I cd into a project directory. After installing RVM 1.19.0, I get a message You are using .rvmrc, it...

:)
 
@RоryMcCune I think @AviD wants something that he can use from code to tell which Ruby version is being used.
 
.ruby-version is supported by the main ruby version managers (rvm, rbenv, chruby)
 
12:52 PM
@TerryChia indeed. or, barring that, by examining code.
i.e. not runtime.
 
@TerryChia Lovely! Thanks
 
@Adnan Has some reported bugs with IIS-based systems that i need to find time to dig into but it works fine for the rest I think.
 
i.e. to look at a the gemspec file and be able to tell which version rubylang it wants. if that even exists.
 
@AviD well if you have a copy of the code but not the environment, then absent a .ruby-version file there's no way I can think of to determine the version of ruby, (in the same way as with a Java app you can't determine the exact version of the JVM in use unless it's bundled with the app)
 
@RоryMcCune yeah, I'm getting that now.
 
12:54 PM
@AviD that's .ruby-version , but it's probably not a universal thing
 
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Q: Programmatically getting FULL Ruby version?

Matt HugginsI know it's possible to get the Ruby version (e.g. "1.9.3") via the RUBY_VERSION constant. However, I want to know how to go about determining the exact version (e.g.: "1.9.3-p0"). The reason is that there is a bug that was not fixed in earlier versions of Ruby 1.9.3 that is working in later ve...

Looks like Ruby defines some constants you can check.
 
unlike e.g. .net which compiles against a specific version, as specified in the .*proj file (even if it is possible to override it at runtime)
 
@TerryChia Hmm.. sucks that it doesn't support client certs
 
@TerryChia yeah if you have access to a running instance then sure you can just say show me what's installed but then ruby -v off the command-line does that
 
@TerryChia inneresting, thanks
 
12:55 PM
@Adnan Mmm, I wrote it as a "check preferred cipher suites order" tool. I should revisit it and refactor / add more features to it soon.
 
.\tlsenum.py twitter.com 443
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\adnan\Downloads\tlsenum-master\tlsenum.py", line 658, in <module>
    main()
  File "C:\Users\adnan\Downloads\tlsenum-master\tlsenum.py", line 584, in main
    send_ssl2_client_hello(args.host, args.port, client_hello)
  File "C:\Users\adnan\Downloads\tlsenum-master\tlsenum.py", line 533, in send_ssl2_client_hello
    except ConnectionResetError:
NameError: global name 'ConnectionResetError' is not defined
Well, sucks it's not working
Problem for me is that SSLScan is using the short names for the suites rather than the full names your tool produces
 
@Adnan What Python version you using?
 
@TerryChia 2.7.2
Yeah, I can see
 
@Adnan It's a Python 3 tool sorry. :)
 
requires 3
 
1:00 PM
Hello. I have a question that I am not sure is on-topic, so I wanted to try and ask it here. On the most recent episode of Security Now they had an add for proXPN. They mentioned that installing this program will hide your internet traffic from everyone. I am wondering if this indeed would be everyone. As an example, if you are on a company system, can't your systems administrator see what websites you are visiting?
 
@Thomas If you're using the company computer, or you're using a computer configured to accept the company's domain controller, then yes, the system administrator can.
Your traffic is only hidden on the wire. It's not hidden if the adversary has access to your computer
 
@Adnan and it may not even be hidden on the wire - many companies will ensure that they MITM all comms
 
@RoryAlsop They ensure that by deploying custom certs on your computer via Group Policies
 
@Adnan that too :-P
 
@RoryAlsop If you have cert-authenticated VPN connection (most OpenVPN-based ones do) then I don't see how an MITM would be successful
You've already been given the VPN provider's cert, the only thing an MITM can do is prevent you from connecting
they cannot snoop on your traffic
No?
 
1:10 PM
Ok, would this questoin be on topic if I asked it?
 
@Thomas anything mentioned on Security Now is offtopic, since it rarely has anything to do with real security. Or logic.
 
Really ?
 
unless, of course, you are wanting to mock. Mocking is always accepted.
 
@Thomas It would, but it will be closed immediately because we have at least 3 similar ones.
 
@Adnan: ok, can you give me the link to those three?
 
1:12 PM
@Adnan (my :-P was because you are right)
@Thomas I guess you have realised that in chat we are a little irreverent. Welcome to the nonsense :-)
 
Ok, so a follow up question is if one uses wireless anywhere does this proXPN hide the traffic? (for example the IP of the istes you visit)
 
@Thomas wireless is sort of irrelevant to this. If you are proxying using an encrypted VPN, effectively, it doesn't matter what media you are using
 
@RoryAlsop: I am not sure that I understand. So it wouldn't hide the traffic even if using wireless?
 
@Thomas It would hide the traffic regardless of what communication medium you're using
Wireless, ethernet, dial-up
 
1:16 PM
smoke rings
 
ok, so the only way a systems administrator could see your traffic is if he/she has access to your computer in some way?
 
cans and rope
 
Good luck to all our Scotsmen today. May your personal preferences prevail in the polls.
 
@Xander I hope so!
 
ohyea
Rory
yea or nay?
 
1:18 PM
@Thomas Or they have power/influence to make you do things on your computer (install some certs, run some apps, etc.)
@Lighty Ummm.. I'd hate to speak for @RoryA on this one, but really, Kevin, it's not something to ask here.
 
Oh - did you see @Xander - Lexie is through to final 10. For the final votes got reset, and she is currently in second place - any votes from folk sin here will help. (Plus, the person in 1st place just did a zip wire ride - pah)
 
@Adnan: Ok thanks. So it is in general considered a safe way to hide your traffic? (except for the volume of course)
 
@RoryAlsop Fantastic!
 
@Adnan it has really divided our nation in a particularly unpleasant way
 
@Adnan Yeah, we don't want Rory[0] kickbanning Rory[1]. :P
 
1:19 PM
@Xander So feel free to add your vote and tell your friends/colleagues :-)
 
@Thomas From people trying to snoop on your connection in the wire (wire or wireless, you know what I mean. In transmission), yes.
 
@RoryAlsop Can't you hire some interns to vote for you?
 
@TerryChia I think we are both in agreement on this one. Most people I know through my day job are No, and most of the music/entertainment industry are a Yes
@TerryChia LOL - I preferred @Lucas' idea
 
@RoryAlsop I've already voted, but I'll happily share.
 
@RoryAlsop Yeah, but @Lucas' idea actually involves writing code. Isn't that a little bit too much for you? :P
 
1:21 PM
So for real, is Steve Gibson really not considered a security expert? I enjoy listening to the program once in a while (even though I only understand 10% of what they talk about)
 
@Thomas He's sort of a security expert. The issue is that when he screw something up, he doesn't own up to it. That's a big issue in the field
He might have the very good knowledge about many things
 
@Thomas He's an expert at convincing others he's an expert.
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@Xander ahh - you get to vote again now it's the final
 
Hehe he convinced me :)
 
they reset everything to zero for it
 
1:22 PM
it's just that it's better not to trust him and be on the safe side
@RoryAlsop Voting button is hidden for me
 
@RoryAlsop Ah, will do then.
 
He does have some things definitely right, but has made some major blunders
how's that
 
So are there any good blogs/podcasts with "real" experts that you can recommend instead?
 
does it give you the button?
 
1:23 PM
@Xander Already got lectured on that
@RoryAlsop Yup, I see it
@Thomas Yeah, Security.StackExchange is good :D
 
@Adnan Ah, good then.
 
@Thomas www.adnanisawesome.adnan
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@RoryAlsop Now I'm thinking of ways to "vote"
 
@Lighty @Adnan must be fucking rich to afford the .adnan TLD.
 
1:26 PM
@TerryChia black marketing organs of his enemies makes good cash i think
 
@TerryChia maybe no-one wants it
@Lighty what is a marketing organ?
 
@RoryAlsop Yeah, nobody wants .adnan :(
 
I need to go and work now - I'm talking nonsense
 
@RoryAlsop selling organs!
 
@Lighty I know - I was being silly with your word choice; reading it as dark coloured 'marketing organs'
 
1:28 PM
@RoryAlsop D:
 
I like big
donuts and I cannot lie.
 
@Thomas I haven't found a lot of good security podcasts. Risky Business is my current favorite. There are a lot of good blogs..To a large degree which ones will appeal to you depend on the specific subject matter you're interested in. For generally news type blogs, ThreatPost and Threat Level, Graham Cluley's bolg, Krebs on Security, and the CERT blogs are the ones I subscribe to.
 
@Xander Twitter is where it's at now.
 
@TerryChia I can't believe you won't follow me.
 
@TerryChia i thought that was mostly for pre-teens and teens? atleast, the vast majority of users
 
1:41 PM
@Xander Nothing personal. :)
 
@Xander What's your tweetie twat?
 
@Xander You didn't run into my blog then, right? It's about why PHP is very secure, I plan to host an hour podcast every week. Unfortunately, I haven't found enough content for a single minute.
 
@TerryChia The chairman of the board of OWASP follows me. Eugene Kaspersky follows me. INFOSEC TAYLER SWIFT FOLLOWS ME!!!!
 
@TerryChia You're such a donut.
 
@Adnan @xandersherry
 
1:42 PM
@Xander Meh, meh, nice!
 
@Xander I followed you
now leave @Terry alone
 
@Simon Ha ha..No, missed that one. That would actually be a good parody blog.
@Adnan Sweet. Thanks.
 
@Adnan you still not found those flowers then?
 
@Lighty Ah, no. Teens certainly use it, but that's not the predominant userbase.
 
@Lighty What the hell are you on about?
 
1:51 PM
@Simon youh mumma
 
Burn.
 
@Xander alot of media says it is over here, but i should do reshearch before believing the media, i know
 
Not like "OOOOOH BURN!", burn like "Burn in a fire".
@Lighty Why the fuck would you let the media influence your opinion?
You're a damn child.
 
@Lighty I have an even better option. Believe the exact opposite of what the media tells you. You'll be correct more often that way.
 
how is that even remotely an opinion
@Xander that was just an underbuild statement because im too lazy in such unimportant things
i dont even like twitter
 
1:54 PM
@Lighty Ok? Don't use it then? That's always an option. I'm not going to make you.
 
^^
almost 4-o clock
time for some soup
 
@TerryChia I follow Xander on the twooter
@Lighty I certainly don't understand how to use it effectively, but I try...
 
@RoryAlsop @TerryChia says we're not cool enough to follow. I don't know why you wouldn't be cool enough though..You're a rock god.
 
I just followed him too. Let's make a banner about it.
 
@Xander and you're a beer god!
 
1:59 PM
@RoryAlsop I'm not applying for a job in your company so meh.
 
@TerryChia hahahaha - twitter isn't my first recruitment tool...
 
@RoryAlsop It is, you secretly want me to work for you.
You donut.
 
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