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5:05 PM
@MarcusMüller - this is a better place to chat about it
 
Hi Marcus
 
so, point being, I really never meant to call anyone out or worse even shame the user
so, if I caused that impression, I'd like to apologize
 
okay - but that really is what it looks like
are you just trying to get in contact with him?
that should be easy (in fact I have pinged him in a mod room ust to try and get to the bottom of this)
 
yeah, and your answer "I checked the account and it seems to be ok" actually helped me
 
5:10 PM
@MarcusMüller If you are on a mobile device the list of accounts may not show all, but his is definitely there
 
nope, FF50 on Linux
the screenshot I had in there was comprehensive, from my POV
but that might be the diff between someone with mod privileges or 50k rep and my humble self
 
ooooh - hang on. I must apologise to you there - yes, now I'm looking on my desktop I can see there are some that are mod only visibility
I will go away and find out why - I honestly don't know
 
I am sorry
 
don't worry, that solves my anxiety
"anxiety" <- not really, more worries
 
5:12 PM
Now I really do see why you had called that out
 
I'll reopen - apologies for misunderstanding you
 
I was worried that someone got a security.SE account under the name Jamal, used his picture, linked to his github from that profile, since there was no indication of the reverse linkage
:)
but, if you can see that link, I'm fine this far
no need to reopen this – it's meta, so if my question has been answered, I doubt the whole thing has any future value!
 
I will find out the answer though, and post it there - question is reopened
 
thanks :)
 
5:14 PM
it is important though, as others may call out the same "bug"
 
true. security folks might be even above my level of paranoia
by the way, I wanted to get a moderator opinion on something completely different
and the subtitle of this chat reminded me of that
the security.SE tour page says "Information Security Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for information security professionals" <--- we all know that's not true – many (good!) questions are asked by people that are pretty much untouched by security aspects of IT
 
Ah hah - found it:
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Q: This account is hidden and will is only shown to you and moderators

SнаđошƒаӽThe sentence in the title of this question is shown on hovering hidden accounts when one visits the page http://stackexchange.com/users/userid/username?tab=accounts. I have given a screenshot below. (I have hidden some of my accounts from the screenshot too!) The tooltip currently shown is ...

there is a thing - hidden accounts
 
I'd myself not even remotely considered a security professional
AH! so that's a nice feature for whatever reason :)
 
@MarcusMüller not sure what your day job is, but you do seem to know a good amount about security :-)
It is always a long discussion about wording/titles etc
I think we came to the agreement that while we would never reject anyone for not being a professional (as everyone has to deal with security in their day job at some point, even if only indirectly) that the core would be the professional piece
For example, we won't typically look at how to repair a home pc hit by a virus (wipe and rebuild) but we may look at specifics of how a company prepares for an attack
 
so, moderator-opinion question coming up is:
Is there a line that you'd like people like me to draw? More precisely: Is there a threshold of basicness, under which a question should *not* be answered
hm, I see
yeah
 
5:23 PM
I think this covered part of it okay:
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Q: Personal, home computer questions on-topic?

jrdiokoAre questions about computer security on personal, home computers on topic here, or should questions be limited to higher-level IT field questions?

In fact, this search throws up quite a few of the discussions about it - meta.security.stackexchange.com/search?q=on+topic
 
yeah, I figured that part of "there's a lot of discussion", and I mostly sympathized with the "if the question even allows for a "professional" answer, ie. one that either explains an involved security concept or one that allows to answer on a general level that "skilled people" can use to infer the correct course of action on a related problem from, then it's kinda on-topic"
but as seen especially well from the meta Q you just linked to, the opinions on that "scatter" between both extremes (all that is between "basically, everything to do with security is on-topic" and "nope, this is not superuser.com")
 
I found 2 meta posts on hidden accounts, so have provided an answer (and even a picture of what it looks like)
 
day job == electrical engineer, signal processing, wireless communication, btw
 
@MarcusMüller ahh - that's where I started. Electronic engineer, high freq signals. Work back in the early nineties with Siemens Nixdorf on GaAs telecomms circuits for mobile
 
5:29 PM
@MarcusMüller yeah - each end is easy to figure out. The middle is a bit of a grey area...
 
well, far less in the semiconductor/analog signal business than on the software defined radio side of things
 
@MarcusMüller now that's an interesting area. Quite a few recent conferences I have been at have had SDR for hacking/attacks discused
 
yeah, and it's kind of the same thing in the other direction – a lot of SDR conferences I've been to/watched/skimmed the proceedings of have been "infiltrated" by infosec people
(not that the whole SDR business wouldn't have basically been invented / brought to feasibility by people trying to eavesdrop more effectively in the first place – but that's a different kind of security theatre :) )
pretty interesting exchange
i mean, from a sample in this chat alone, one can assume that the circles of RF comm/analysis people and Infosec aren't really separate
and SDR pretty much assumes there's people that understand both sides of e.g. a communication network – the hardware/electrical signals/physical layer side of things, and the side of things where it's important to keep your bits private
 
 
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11:00 PM
@MarcusMüller Yep. I think @RоryMcCune knows a fair bit on this
 

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