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12:10 AM
oh, god... I finally got bored enough to start using Dvorak
On the upside, I'm learning it much faster than I learned QWERTY
 
@RoryAlsop i rarely finish games so this is a foreign emotion
 
On the downside, it took me forever to learn QWERTY
 
@KnightOfNi Really? I pretty much looked at the keyboard and was good to go
 
@DavidFreitag I wouldn't STOP looking at the keyboard
Even now, I look at it when I have to type fast
 
12:33 AM
Taking a typing class in high school broke me of that habit. If the teacher saw you looking at your keyboard too much she would swap it out with one with blank keys.
 
@ScottPack i hated typing class so often
i honestly jst figred out ways to break the typing software
 
I enjoyed learning how to type better. Another guy and I were by 2x or more faster than anybody else in class so we would compete.
 
@Ohnana lol, "what is your name?" "Ohana'); DROP TABLE names;--
 
Watching the look of supreme contentment of him hitting 105wpm was only made sweater when it completely melted in defeat when he looked over and saw my 117wpm.
 
@KnightOfNi no i was in fifth grade, so it was mostly cheating the system
doing the least amount of work to keep progressing
 
12:41 AM
lol, amen to that
that was very satisfying to type, since "amen to that" is almost entirely on the home row
 
1:15 AM
@KnightOfNi I don't really need to, but generally that produces typo's because my finders are a few millimeters off and I mash two keys instead of the one I wanted
@KnightOfNi Are you typing in dvorak on a qwerty keyboard? That would drive me absolutely nuts.
well, either that or everything would come out like gibberish
 
@DavidFreitag yup
 
That would confuse the crap out of me
 
@DavidFreitag well, it's a fantastic motivation not to look at the keyboard
 
@KnightOfNi Seriously
 
I'm just afraid I'll have to go back to QWERTY, and I'll either not remember how or somehow "lose" what I've learned of Dvorak
 
1:29 AM
If you stick with it for a long enough period, you will be fine.
 
1:56 AM
@DavidFreitag yeah, but that's the problem, isn't it?
who has the time to spend a week typing at like 20 WPM?
 
 
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4:37 AM
yay! My first "destroyed" account! I've been waiting to push that button...
 
haha, who was it?
 
spammer
diet pills
welcome to DMZ, btw
 
Thanks, I only just found out that it existed
 
I saw that note
 
You're doing a great job of moderating btw, how long have you been around here?
 
4:41 AM
re: security.stackexchange.com/a/97972/6253 I deleted my comments
oh thanks! I've been active on the site since 2012
just got elected to Mod this month!
@Morgoroth I don't think I've seen you in the DMZ - come here often?
 
@schroeder not too often. Every once in a while I'll log in and see if anything interesting is happening, but most SE chats dont seem too active
 
thanks for taking on the WPA2 w/o monitor mode question, btw
 
@schroeder thanks for the pickup on this question by the way: security.stackexchange.com/questions/97963/…
I realised I completely misread the qeustion
*question
 
@NicBarker np
bah! now the question has no answers!!
 
I'll answer it again
properly
 
4:49 AM
Thanks. As i was writing that traffic is sent according to macs it popped in my head to test it. I was able to get the traffic without using monitor mode, but only after already authenticating. It makes me think there 'may' be a way to do it without using monitor mode, but realistically its not worth that pain.
 
@Morgoroth I was not challenging your answer, but wanting you to expound on why you thought the answer was "no"
@Morgoroth yeah, I thought about that option but couldn't speak authoritatively
 
Yeah i know...I just didn't feel like going through the effort of elaborating enough to make it a high quality post - which i know is what you were pushing for
 
@Morgoroth ok - trying not to be a bully - so totally did not expect you to delete it
 
No, even though i'm not in chat I see you posting a lot of constructive things on here pretty much daily - so i didn't interpret it as that.
 
oh good
 
4:58 AM
I think it would be interesting if SO had a function for mods to post private comments on posts
rather than giving feedback then having to retract the comment after it's changed
sort of like "advice" comments that don't necessarily need to be public
 
well, technically, we do, but then others might offer the same advice using public comments
 
Ah that's a really good point
 
so it's typical to make public comments so that others know someone has made a suggestion
alright - I'm off to bed
catch you all later
 
peace
 
cya
 
 
1 hour later…
6:14 AM
Morning all
 
Hey Rory
 
6:31 AM
morning
 
Hi all !
I am having very strange thing on my prod server.
 
6:51 AM
this is the dump of tcpdump i62.tinypic.com/2ahxlrb.jpg
any idea?
 
7:23 AM
hey there
 
7:59 AM
@efesaid What do you think looks strange about it? Have you been setting up CloudFlare? Also, it would be better to copy your dump as a text somewhere. I'm not transcribing it, and I doubt anyone else will.
 
8:30 AM
@TildalWave sure here the raw output pastebin.com/ZUYWeQKR
 
 
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raz
11:10 AM
man this party really died
 
11:26 AM
 
 
1 hour later…
12:43 PM
Morning gang
 
raz
Morning
seems its just us at the moment
 
indeed, no-one here but us chickens
 
buck buck buck buck
 
@StackExchange WE JUST WANT THE NEW DESIGN, NOT XKCD
 
LOL
 
12:54 PM
@Simon hey just chill out now, they have a whole 2 working days left..
 
@RоryMcCune And knowing SE, the guys are probably working on weekends too!
le cough-
 
@Simon that's a bad le-cough you have there.. Frog in your throat ? ;op
 
pls roro
 
@Simon whaat, that's not a bad joke for off the cuff stuff
 
off da wat
 
1:02 PM
@Simon off the cuff, it's a term meaning made up quickly,
 
You Scots are insane.
 
I blame @ScottPack.
 
brits
it's a general british saying
 
Just like "A donut a day keeps the fatties fed"?
 
1:03 PM
@Simon I actually like xkcd and don't give a hoot about the new design...
just to be contrary
 
@RoryAlsop phhbt you're just saying that 'cause you already have all that new profile goodness on all other sites you moderate :op
 
@RоryMcCune I don't even see it on them
I'm not really a profile person
 
Yeah, you're more like a booty guy.
 
@RoryAlsop you expect us to believe you're not in there, tracking your reach figures on a day-by-day basis ?!?
@Simon is that a clever play on rory's liking for pirates?
or are you just being crude :op
 
I'm being #me.
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1:07 PM
@RоryMcCune I don't know what I'd do with reach figures...
@RоryMcCune Yarrrr
@RоryMcCune In fact, I don't know any of my reach figures except the one that Adi posted the other day, and I can't remember that one
 
@RoryAlsop bask in the glory of your Internet points?
 
raz
@RоryMcCune I read "Bask in the glory of your Internet ports"
Which made me think, "What kind of special Internet ports does he have?"
 
@raz none, don'tya know having open ports on the Internet is dangerous!?!
speaking of which if you like a laugh twitter.com/shodanhq
is doing a "thing of the day" post
with things people really shouldn't leave unprotected on the Internet
 
These HMIs are publicly available?
 
@RоryMcCune I want to bask in the glory of album sales or festival gigs... :-(
 
1:13 PM
God damn, man.
 
@Simon yeah if you have a shodan account he has a site that just shows screenshots grabbed from open systems. Loads of open logged in desktops, SCADA systems etc
@RoryAlsop :( not much happening on that front at the moment?
 
@RоryMcCune no - activity has stalled at the moment
hoping it picks up now Edinburgh Festival is about done
 
@RoryAlsop bummer :( hopefully will pick up soon!
 
Fingers crossed. Luckily I'm not relying on the music industry to be anything other than flaky
 
@RoryAlsop yeah creative stuff does seem a lot more random than corp. life...
 
1:27 PM
random, political, emotional, just plain odd :-)
 
1:45 PM
@RоryMcCune clearly you're not taking executives' whims into account.
 
allo ovid
 
@Simon shoiman
 
Can I get a hug if we ever meet?
 
...
uhhh
so, um, how 'bout them Mets?
 
wot
 
1:47 PM
I'll do more than that though, if you make it to AppSecIL, I'll give you a personal stage greeting with 500 people applause.
I can do that, ya know.
I was gonna offer you a keynote, but then I realized.
 
I'd totally do the pls dance on stage.
 
@Simon sooo @ everyone, now we need to crowdfund simons flight to Israel
so he can do the pls dance in front of 500 people ...
 
@Simon I would support that.
 
hey where's @kalina when you need her, she's rich
 
@RоryMcCune and cameras, dont forget. It will get to youtube.
 
1:50 PM
Reasons I am not rich - my case turned up yesterday, and it looks like the rest of my PC bits will turn up this afternoon. And the 4k monitors next week
mmmmmmmmm
 
@RоryMcCune you should come along, for you I would give a keynote
 
Decided to go for two 28" 4k monitors rather than three 24" 1980x1050 monitors
 
@RoryAlsop oo! enjoy!
 
raz
@RoryAlsop Like a pro
 
@RoryAlsop whoaaow.
 
1:51 PM
@AviD heh, not sure I have a good keynote style talk, and you must be spoiled for choice of good speakers
 
WANT
 
@AviD Already am - the case is awesome (thanks @DavidFreitag)
 
@RoryAlsop be v.interested to hear how you get on with those ..
 
I'll take a bunch of pictures and blog it
 
@RоryMcCune yes, but I can also choose to do that anyway
besides, exotic foreign accents always make for a good keynote
@RoryAlsop which case?
 
1:52 PM
@AviD hey @RоryMcCune - you're exotic now
 
'course he is, thick Scottish brogue, innit
 
@AviD Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Unbeatable Gaming Case - apparently
 
@AviD heh if you want thick scottish brogue you should've been at the burnistoun show I was at last night.. my accent was definitely on the lighter side
 
How was it live?
 
@RoryAlsop ohhh nice. I was looking at that one (or some plebian variety). I want for the more spaciious and airy Corsair, on codinghorror's recommendation.
 
1:54 PM
@RoryAlsop good, they had some good new stuff. Not all hits I'll say but quite an enjoyable evening
@RoryAlsop the quality polis were quality
 
I have one of the older Antec's, now the family machine. Very good build quality, but not quite as well engineered as the Corsair.
 
@RoryAlsop they did word for word versions of some of the more popular sketches from the show "nae rolls, voice activated elevator" which I felt were a bit flat (you knew what was coming) but other bits were v. funny
@RoryAlsop v.shiney case! you should see if you can get some orange neon lights for it.
then spray paint a Metaltech logo onto it :)
 
@RоryMcCune It has blue neons, which actually goes better with Orange logo
 
@RoryAlsop true, irn-bru colours!
 
@AviD build quality is good actually, with individual speed control for the 3 front fans, then a couple of rear fans, a huge top fan, and some others
 
2:00 PM
@RoryAlsop one thing I loved about the Corsair that the antec didnt match, was cable management. little holes in the frame everywhere, and a whole area behind the main area for cables to run in and out.
 
@AviD it looks okay at first glance
 
also great options for disk trays and such... that said the Antec was really enticing too.
 
will see how we go once I start popping components in
The disk trays are okay actually
 
@RoryAlsop better than okay, I think the Antecs are awesome.
right then, gots to go... just got back from the pool with the kiddies, gotta go get them settled... have a great weekend, y'all
 
@AviD you too!
 
2:14 PM
ooh
@RoryAlsop: sounds like a good machine ;p
@AviD the higher end cosairs are a sheer pleasure to work in
 
yeah, exactly. Though I think mine is considered mid-range, and yeah It is enjoyable.
 
and heh. I eventually hope to split the difference with a nice ips screen
@AviD: I have a 600T. Its not top of the line but its a big thing
lovely cable management
however thinks at the moment, his next upgrade may need to be a bigger desk. Or a nicer one
 
3:15 PM
@JourneymanGeek question for you, what do you spend on average on utility bills in sg a month?
 
Should this maybe have been migrated to SU/SF instead of closed?
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Q: Is there any way to get Chrome 27 to trust a self-signed cert?

Troy HuntI'm running latest gen Chrome (27) and preparing a demo that requires using a self-signed cert to support HTTPS on a local IIS website. The cert has been created with the correct common name for the website (good little guide here) and then added to the trusted root certs on the local machine. I...

 
(Ping: @AviD @RoryAlsop @schroeder @JeffFerland)
@RоryMcCune Good thing they're in New York (or, rather, distributed worldwide). 'Round here, it's starting to look like they'd only have today.
 
raz
3:36 PM
@Iszi 2 years later
But yeah I agree it's probably better for SU
 
@raz Awww, stuff it. Dunno why I was suddenly interested in browsing Troy's old posts.
 
raz
@Simon NEW PROFILE
 
damn, just wanted to say that
 
raz
ninja'ed
 
@raz OH MY GOOOOOOOD
THE FRENCH DUDE WASN'T LYING
 
raz
3:45 PM
I hate it
 
Yeah it fucking sucks.
BRING BACK THE OLD PROFILE!
 
pages also look a bit different ... more padding, different typeface,...
 
Yep, noticed that too.
 
TL;DR - now the TL;DR is even more TL;DR than ever before
 
raz
@TildalWave I like the small facelift
 
3:47 PM
TL;DR;TL;DR - Even fewer people will now know how SSL works :))
@raz TWSS
 
@Simon of fucking course. we finally get the new profile and you all turn up your noses
 
Wait, they deployed on a Friday?
@Ohnana HEY, I NEVER SAID THAT I WAS GONNA BE HAPPY.
I HAVE FRENCH BLOOD SON, MY JOB IS TO COMPLAIN.
 
@Simon fuck off you soggy baguette
3
 
raz
@Ohnana We always said we just wanted to be able to complain about it like everyone else.
 
@Ohnana BAGUETTE IS AMAZING
 
3:49 PM
@Simon it is when it's not soggy
 
@TildalWave Zefuq are you saying? Something wrong with my post?
 
baguette heels with butter are my favorite part
 
@Iszi yours? I see no post of yours here security.stackexchange.com/questions/20803/…
 
@Simon He ain't wrong. His ex-great-grandma is French Canadian.
 
Really?
That's why you always loved me!
 
3:52 PM
@TildalWave Oh, I thought you were talking about here, where I'd just posted an update after the TL;DR. security.stackexchange.com/questions/21509/…
 
@Iszi before the whole thread was about 9-10 pages long, now it's 12 or something
@Iszi that one has a different problem ... if I'm only interested in TL;DR, should I still read the update or is the gist of it already included in the TL;DR
 
@TildalWave Shaddap
@Simon Who said I ever loved you? Go back to your closet!
 
@Iszi I don't take orders from my ex-ones.
 
@DavidFreitag Just now nailed down what this reminds me of: That one American Dad episode, with "I'm getting fed up with this orgasm!" as a code phrase because it's something "nobody would ever say". (Interestingly enough, that's probably a true assumption but most likely not for the reasons you'd think - chances are, anyone who's "fed up with this orgasm" is still in the middle of it and so worn out by it that they wouldn't be able to form the words.)
 
You're too old to watch American Dad.
 
4:04 PM
@Simon Or not old enough.
 
someone pinged
 
@schroeder QUICKLY TO THE ADMIN MOBILE!
 
whoa - new UI sucks
font is hard to read
sheesh - undo undo!
 
See, you can practically never be "too young" to watch something because you could always be introduced to it by your parents. And older people aren't really too old to watch things too often, because it's always possible they have children who enjoy those things. But there is that little gap - the period of life where kid shows were coming out before you were old enough to have kids of an appropriate age - that some shows could fit in the space of those you're "too old" to watch.
 
Is it over analysis Friday?
 
4:09 PM
@Simon With me, every day is over-analysis day.
I think it's what makes me good at what I do.
 
why did they reduce the font size, but keep the container size the same
fonts are grey-ish too
I had to increase my zoom on my browser ...
 
@schroeder :o
 
raz
@schroeder Get classes
 
@schroeder When did you become blind?
 
4:25 PM
rekt
 
@Iszi when I turned 40, I guess
 
4:43 PM
@schroeder poor schroeder
 
 
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6:07 PM
Watch out for North Korea's Tractical Missiles :o
 
those aren't missiles, those are Tractor Beams :)
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6:30 PM
So. @AviD and @DavidFreitag - I've definitely gone off Antec. The case is not great. Actually, no, the metalwork is lovely, but the internal cabling to front panel, front USB ports etc is terrible and there is no documentation that is readable
Also, making things more fun is the fact that all the EVGA documentation sucks - if you follow it you then have to undo a lot if what you have done in order to get the last cables in
Worst of all, the SSD is not usable on this board (actually I'm not sure how to use it at all as there is no port that would fit it so I'm going to Google for advice and if no explanation I'm returning that bit and going for a proper ssd
 
6:47 PM
@RoryAlsop YouTube videos
@RoryAlsop what SSD is it?
 
7:07 PM
Plextor PCIe 256Gb thing
 
7:19 PM
@RoryAlsop that's an oldie!
The real question right now is should I stay till 4 or bugger out of work early
@LucasKauffman looking at the thumbnail of that picture I though it was a photoshop joke but nope. That is real. LOLOLOL
 
8:01 PM
@RoryAlsop ahh what board did you get?
I've got one of those in my system
s'a funny looking slot
@schroeder huh so are you the 2nd oldest mod then?
@Simon got the solution to all your music creation problems... the.wubmachine.com
 
8:27 PM
An X99 board - doesn't appear to have that slot
 
@RoryAlsop Hmmm it doesn't fit in the M.2 slot?
@RoryAlsop Did you get the motherboard that I linked to you? Should be this one.
 
Yep, got the one you suggested.
 
The M.2 slot is just behind the one short PCIe slot
 
Ahh. So that is unusable then. The graphics card has to go there
 
To the right of the sata connectors and near the bottom center of the board
@RoryAlsop The GPU can go in any of the 5 other pcie slots
 
8:37 PM
I thought it had to go in an x16 slot
 
They are all x16 slots
 
And there are only two of them
 
With the exception of the shorty one
 
The others are x8 and x4 according to the spec sheet
 
@RoryAlsop Nope, you've got 5 of them :D
 
8:38 PM
Hmmm - it explicitly says the top one and 2nd bottom are x16. And the top one is under the heatsink
 
@RoryAlsop Nope, I think you misread that. Basically it downgrades the slots when you have multiple cards in. For a single card they will all work as x16.
 
And the others are all labeled as x8 or x4
 
hang on to avoid the potential for confusion, @RoryAlsop what's the brand/model number of the board you've got
 
Okay - I'll try that
 
it's possible you two are talking at cross purposes...
 
8:39 PM
@RоryMcCune EVGA X99 Classified (151-HE-E999-KR)
 
@DavidFreitag I was thinking that what Rory has and what you think he has may not be the same thing :) , 'cause it sounds like the board you're describing doesn't match with what he's seeing....
 
@RoryAlsop x8 and x4 slots are physically smaller than x16 slots, you do have a x4 slot, but that is the short one.
@RоryMcCune I dunno, I feel like EVGA just wrote a crap spec sheet for someone who hasn't built a PC since the days pf PCI
 
Board is X99 classified motherboard. I just used the link you sent me
 
@DavidFreitag this is possible but I find it's always a good idea to confirm things when people appear to be seeing different things :op
 
Admittedly the picture in the booklet isn't quite the same as the board
 
8:42 PM
@RoryAlsop Upload a picture of the board, I want to see if it matched newegg, and to prove that the documents are wrong
 
And there are nowhere near the right number of fan headers, so I need to order some adapters
Might be tricky. I need to get the pics off my DSLR into the computer. Will do it in a bit
 
Haha, no that case has like 80 billion fans
@RoryAlsop You could just use your cell phone camera, lol
 
Yeah, 3 more than fan power headers
I could but you wouldn't see anything. It's a damn big heatsink
 
That's the pic from the booklet, but it doesn't quite match the board
 
8:45 PM
@RoryAlsop configuring things on the ESA/390 was a lot easier it seems!
 
That bit up top left is a bit different
Physically it is easy to plug things in
 
@RoryAlsop Yeah there is no fancy metal bracket over your io connectors
 
Yes there is
It came with the board
 
@DavidFreitag just a quick question, but aren't you always required to put the GPU in the primary PCIe slot, which is the closest one to the cpu?
 
It can't fit there Lucas
 
8:47 PM
 
so you put your ssd in slot 22
 
@LucasKauffman Not necessarily, some times the heat sink is too big, or the case can't support it.
 
and your gpu in slot 19?
aaah
 
Slot 22 is unavailable Lucas
 
@DavidFreitag that's the caption list from the booklet, I can see where the confusion may lie, that seems to show PCIx8 and x4 slots
 
8:47 PM
what happened to it :O?
 
It is under the only available slit 19
 
@RoryAlsop @LucasKauffman No, 22 is for a WiFi card, you want 23.
 
also on a sidenote, I got an email from a headhunter telling me I was shortlisted for an "exclusive job"
so now my colleagues did get the same email
 
@RoryAlsop If you put your GPU in the bottom slot #19, then you can still put your M.2 in slot #23
 
which means the incentive to troll became large
@DavidFreitag will it fit the case?
 
8:50 PM
That only shorter slot is entirely covered by the graphics card
There only seems to be one slot that this would even vaguely fit in, and it's the one covered by the double-wide :-(
 
@RoryAlsop That's ok, it's a x4
If only I lived in the UK somewhere, I'd come over and help D:
 
I feel like I'm being incredibly dim here
 
I didn't want to say it... lol
 
It's only been a free years since my last build and it was a piece of cake
So you are confident those slots marked x8 are actually x16?
 
@RoryAlsop Newegg says they are x16, I trust newegg.
 
8:54 PM
OK. I'll ignore the manual and try it. My problem is that symptoms may be hard to diagnose
If graphics have a bottleneck because they are on x8
 
A GPU will work in a x8, it will just run slightly slower
 
Yeah - that's my worry
At that point will it run the multiple 4k displays at full suited
 
Once everything is installed, you can run GPU-Z and it should tell you what configuration your gpu is running at
 
S/suited/speed
 
If you are worried about it, just cover the x4 slot, I have never actually seen a x4 device. Besides that, a x4 device will work in a x16/x8 slot, they are all pin compatible.
 
8:56 PM
At that point I'd have to redo the entire install though, as I'd have to ditch the ssd
 
Because there is only one usable slot marked x16 and it covers the slot where the SSD would have to go
 
That's fine, as long as the board will fit in the connector without physically touching the SSD
Which it should with no problem
 
Nope - when I say covering, it completely covers it. The SSD is 4 cm long or so, and the clearance is less than half a centimetre
 
@RoryAlsop I thought that from looking at the pic that the SSD went flat along the Motherboard as opposed to standing up from it, would it not go under the PCI cards?
 
8:58 PM
It stands up
The connector is on the end
 
@RoryAlsop Heh, you need to put a screw into it so it lays flat parallel against the motherboard
 
But there is no connector that can do that
 
Do you have a laptop that you can skype with?
 
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