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Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
7:56 AM
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A: Statistically, how similar is the NIV to other translations such as the RSV?

Jon EricsonI don't know the method that Wayne Grudem used. On possible method is Levenshtein Distance, which measures the number of insertions, deletions, and subsitutions needed to convert one text to another. In order to test the method and compare it with the 92% found in the chart, I ran the first chapt...

^^^ pretenders to Jon's №1 spot on BH.SE take note, he is back!!!!
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Davïd
Davïd
12:03 PM
@JackDouglas Excellent stuff! I aspire to being a pretender! We are not worthy! @JonEricson
 
Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
@Davïd I like what you have done with that hat, and have shamelessly copied you (but also out-wierded you in the process I hope :)
now I want the ability to wear two hats at once :)
OK, I might get a slap on the wrists for this:
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A: Winter Bash 2014 Secret Hats

Jack DouglasMidwich Cuckoo I think this one is inspired by the John Wyndham classic: And here's how it looks on me: To get it you need to upvote at least two M.SE posts by a user who already has the scary eyes hat (I don't know how the first person got theirs).

:)
 
 
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Davïd
Davïd
1:27 PM
@JackDouglas That . . . is . . . freaky! I tried to get that vibe going with the "chameleon" hat, but I definitely didn't plunb the psychic depths that you have managed to achieve here. Wow. (I'm thinking of my hat today as Shabbat attire, fwiw!)
@JackDouglas Well, you've managed to attract one pedant in the comment thread, anyway. :/
@JackDouglas That's up there with the "Praying Mantis" hat, imho. Well done! Hope you get a Eureka! for it!
 
Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
@Davïd Thanks, I've already got +35 M.SE internet points which is more than I expected (and I've changed it to 'downvote' to get myself out of trouble for that!)
hmm, there's a hat for posting or commenting today, that's not too difficult...
 
Davïd
Davïd
2:00 PM
Is there a "miserable pedant" hat? If there is, I think Infinite Recursion just earned it. ;) — Davïd 48 secs ago
 
Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
@Davïd don't worry, I shall just stare him into submission :)
 
Davïd
Davïd
@JackDouglas lol :D
@JackDouglas ? Do you mean the Bill Lumbergh? That takes a bit more work. The Solstice is available tomorrow (which could be today, of course).
 
Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
@Davïd oh yes, that's weird because I got Solstice on M.SE
ah, OK, I see it is tomorrow already :)
 
Davïd
Davïd
@JackDouglas Just so. And tomorrow, today will already be yesterday -- I mean tomorrow's today. You know what I mean. Makes my brain hurt.
 
Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
@Davïd timezones always do that: have you read about UTC+00:20? "The exact timezone was in fact GMT +0h 19m 32.13s until March 17, 1937, when it was simplified to GMT +0h 20m"
also:
 
Davïd
Davïd
2:20 PM
@JackDouglas In my "watch later" queue. ;)
 
Davïd
Davïd
3:13 PM
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Q: Linking NT Greek to Hebrew through the LXX

GregWhat tools are the necessary tools to determine what NT Greek words correspond to the Hebrew words that were translated into the LXX?

hermeneutical-approaches
^^^ Is not about "hermeneutical approaches" - but needs the guidance of @Dan's meta on language questions. Looks like a quick close, but it would be good to answer.....
 
 
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Susan
Susan
4:56 PM
@Davïd Is the answer other than, "learn the languages"? That seems like a recipe for disaster using interlinears....
 
Susan
Susan
5:17 PM
It is now 12/20 at UTC 17:16. And yet.... Jack and David both possess a hat with description, "post or comment on 12/21." ???
 
Caleb
Caleb
5:48 PM
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A: Why didn't (or did) I or some other user get a hat although the requirements were (or weren't) fulfilled?

balphaLeeway on date-based hats Unless the requirement mentions a specific timezone, hats that are date-based are often awarded for 12 hours before and 13 hours after the specified date in UTC, to accomodate people everywhere in the world. This means you can earn such a hat even though for you it's no...

 
Susan
Susan
@Caleb Ah, thanks. For goodness sake, though, that's just silly. Why can't we all just use UTC??!
 
Caleb
Caleb
@Susan I agree. Vehemently agree. The whole world should run on UTC time. Timezones should be entirely eliminated, and especially the daylights savings hokus pokus.
 
Susan
Susan
@Caleb And while we're at it, sweep up the American "p.m." nonsense and throw it in the trash. Why would you create a clock where there are two "2 o'clock"s? (I assume it's American only; we seem to have a penchant for nonsensical measurement systems.)
 
Caleb
Caleb
The world is way past due for a revolution in time-keeping and calendering. Why we still put up with hairbrained systems invented at a time when humans were assumed to be insulated from the actual implementation details is beyond me.
@Susan America and a few British colonies, and some languages as a concession to them (or for verbal convenience). Mostly the world keeps counting up all the way through the day.
 
Susan
Susan
@Caleb And uses units for everything else that work in multiples of 10. The fact that gallons, feet, and miles remain ubiquitous in the US is a source of perpetual aggravation to me.
 
Caleb
Caleb
6:06 PM
@Susan Units are harder. I can argue either side of that one. Metric units suck for many purposes and I can understand why so many professions are reticent to switch.
Time, on the other hand, is without excuse.
I'm not even advocating fro changing the 60 second, 60 minute, 24 hour stuff. That would be truly a painful switch. But the assorted partitioning of the same system into various offsets is counter productive and relatively easy to abandon.
 
Susan
Susan
@Caleb I can think of no realm in which metric units are inferior to American units. ? Other than the fact that American units are well-entrenched in some sectors, but science has pretty much completely switched even in the US, and everyone else should too.
@Caleb Sounds good to me.
 
Caleb
Caleb
@Susan Science relies on calculators and computers to do math for them, and the few humans that have to manage it rely on memorized tables of various decimal values. The trades, on the other hand, use fractions to their advantage. Not only is the scientific world trying to hoist arbitrary units on them that are obnoxiously sized relative to the task at hand, it would also presume to take away their tools.
Ironically, the metric system doesn't make much sense in computing either. There is nothing intrinsically useful about base 10 to a computer. It just means and endless string of calculations to convert to and from the number formats humans decided they want. Computers operate in base 2 and it's derivatives (basic unit of a bit (2 states), 8 bits in a byte, 32 bit or 64 bit integer processing, 1024 MB in a GB, etc.).
 
Susan
Susan
6:22 PM
@Caleb Hm, I don't really understand (clearly!). I think it's "foist", but if they're not right sized, then shift an order of magnitude and....Anyway, fractions are fine with me. I just want the units to have predictable relationships to each other, both in the same domain and across. Metric units talk to each other in a way that American units can't. 1cc = 1mL, which is beautiful. IMO. :-)
@Caleb Computing....I have no idea. Operate in base 2 if it makes sense. At least it makes sense.
 
Caleb
Caleb
@Susan Yes, the unit to unit conversion in metric system is a thing of beauty. That's the main thing it has going for it and imperial units have a lot of archaic cruft that makes less sense now than it once did, but it's unit divisions and choice of base for various things are also what makes it more practical for many trades.
 
 
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Dan
Dan
7:39 PM
@Davïd I'm gonna wait to see if it garners any community close votes. I'm torn on that one
 
Caleb
Caleb
7:55 PM
@Davïd I agree it's not hermeneutical-approaches, its more like tools-of-the-trade. But I don't think it's meta either. It's not about the SE engine or our site culture. The domain expertise needed to answer that is not experts in the SE system but topical experts from our main site.
 
Davïd
Davïd
@Caleb @Dan Does it qualify as an "edge case"? hermeneutical-approaches it ain't, but Caleb makes a good point about Meta ... although we have plenty of "tools" lists that require topical expertise on Meta, too. :/
 
Dan
Dan
@Davïd sounds like a good meta question haha
although admittedly I am furiously coding a framework right now, so my brain is elsewhere
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd Does "edge case" have special meaning in this context? (i.e. what is the implication if it qualifies?)
 
Davïd
Davïd
@Susan In a quite appropriate time warp, Jack and I went through much the same steps earlier today (which is not yet yesterday, at least where I am).
@Susan Ermmm.... ahhh..... I think it means it doesn't get pounced on. I'm going to re-tag, though.
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd Haha, thanks - I didn't look back. Obviously.
 
Caleb
Caleb
8:06 PM
@Davïd I'm not sure how edgy it is, it's just not one we've delved into much. Personally I think some of the posts we have on meta ought to move to main and my vote would be to allow more questions surrounding the field of expertise that would teach more about the process rather than just focusing on "analyze this for me" questions. (Obviously while still avoiding list questions, shopping questions and various other things that don't ever work well in the QnA format.)
 
Davïd
Davïd
@Caleb On a much more trivial level, there seems to be some kind of cryptic message about Eureka! hats in the post at that link, or am I just getting too inquisitive (and/or acquisitive)?
 
Dan
Dan
8:28 PM
yay, waffles
waffles on code is even better
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Susan
Susan
@Dan Ha! that took me a while...
 
Dan
Dan
@Susan :)
@Davïd yeah, I'm trying to figure what the omega behind the hats signifies
 
 
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Davïd
Davïd
11:30 PM
@Caleb Having now provided an answer, I can't say that it feels much like what we normally want to see on Main. But, like @Dan noted, it will be interesting to see how it's received by the community. I doubt it will attract VtC's, though. @Susan
I wonder if it's worth an answer on Meta explaining how it managed to remain "on topic" without a text, without an interpretive interest, and while asking for a list! :/
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd Great! I learned a lot there.
Hatch & Redpath (as it's usually known) is unfortunately not available on Archive.org, or (so far as I'm in aware, browsing in from the UK) is it available in Google Books.
Is that meant to say nor?
But it does appear to be available. To me.
 
Davïd
Davïd
@Susan Just fixed - pesky typos!
@Susan On Google Books? That on of the big downers in the UK.
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd Yes, indeed. First on the page you linked. "Ebook - free".
 
Davïd
Davïd
@Susan That's interesting.
 
Susan
Susan
Yes?
 
Davïd
Davïd
11:38 PM
And why I linked it in any case. Google has a draconian interpretation of UK copyright law that prevents MANY books from being read if you show up as being UK resident. People get around it by using geolocated proxies.....
@Susan Ah. Sigh.
@Susan What about vols. 1 & 2? 3 is just a supplement.
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd Nope. Weird.
 
Davïd
Davïd
@Susan Well that's a drag. Same thing happens on Archive.org. Two copies of the supplement, none of the main work itself (in 2 vols. originally).
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd That is strange. Both are old enough that they should be public domain in the US at least. I think.
 
Davïd
Davïd
@Susan If memory serves (it might not) Stuart Weeks reflects in the USA/UK/Google Books scenario in this preface to his Qohelet bibliography.
@Susan Yepper.
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd By the way, that is not a hat. That is a face.
 
Davïd
Davïd
11:43 PM
@Susan Ermm, it's a head adornment. They called it a "hat", and I believed them.
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd Don't believe them.
 
Davïd
Davïd
It's like a beret that slightly drooped ... fell down a bit ... OK. It's not a hat.
But it's staying on for the 21st, whatever you call it!
:)
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd I'm just happy it now starts to stop getting dark at 4 p.m. Well tomorrow.
 
Davïd
Davïd
@Susan Today, we had sunrise (and it actually did) at 08:41, and sunset (I'll trust them on that one) at 15:39.
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd Ah, you beat me then.
 
Davïd
Davïd
11:47 PM
@Susan Just a tad further north than you, I think!
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd But we have your sun-face to cheer us up.
 
Davïd
Davïd
@Susan :D It cheered me up - especially getting tomorrow's hat (!) today! (as was rigorously discussed above).
You could deploy one as well! You've shown great loyalty to your ... whatever your tresses are called.
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd The tomorrow-today part just irritated me (as was also rigorously discussed above), but it's nice to have it around, and I guess almost actually 12/21 now.
 
Davïd
Davïd
@Susan In 10 minutes here. What am I still doing up!
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd The colors don't go well for me.
@Davïd Go to bed!
 
Davïd
Davïd
11:51 PM
@Susan LOL. And I think it's about shut down time. Good to catch you. Hope you're not too weary there!
 
Susan
Susan
@Davïd g'night!
 
Davïd
Davïd
@Susan It was this one. NOW I'm gone! G'night!
 

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