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Dan
Dan
2:24 AM
@Susan I'll post my recommendations, but I'd trust @Davïd 's advice more than my own
@Susan moreso literary reading in general, but def poetry:
fishbane's work in inner exegesis is foundational but i've never read it
haven't made it that far in my personal reading list yet, and it looks intimidating
i'm working through nt wrights five volumes right now, along with way too many other books
found it
@Davïd isn't there a shorter summary of this one? ^^^^
I've also found these enjoyable/insightful, although perhaps less academic or whatever
also by walton:
fascinating as he discusses the functional ontology of the ancient world as opposed to our materialist ontology and how this impacts how we read the creation account(s)
and this is on my shelf at the recommendation of others but I haven't read it yet, so take it or leave it:
it connects the text to the surrounding historical context
and then i have a whole list of books to read on ancient mesopotamia, the invention of hebrew (sanders), ancient israel, babylon, egypt, etc.
i probably will never finish haha
oh and i can't forget:
and then from there use iTunesU and watch lectures from top universities and seminaries
lots of awesome free courses out there from great instructors
pretty much books and listening to courses is my educational program these days
 
 
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Dan
Dan
4:32 AM
@Susan I don't know about yours, but my hebrew bible only has german and hebrew notes haha
and i don't know german
 
Susan
Susan
5:14 AM
@Dan thanks for the recommendations! Will take a look.
@Dan BHS apparatus? Is in Latin, no? But I only have an electronic version so I may not know.
 
 
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Susan
Susan
6:26 AM
@Dan Ah, hadn't looked there for a while. Not finding much for Hebrew beyond intro, though. Unless there's some way to search it that's better than typing Hebrew in the search field. I had kind of forgotten all the other fascinating stuff that's there, though, good idea.
 
 
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Davïd
Davïd
7:28 AM
@Susan That's a great selection from @Dan and those suggestions are excellent. Not a lot to add really (esp. since in the midst of a cauldron-whirlpool of work here). But I'll add a couple that would supplement/complement Dan's --
^^^^ available in another edition; in libraries? Very readable from a selection of excellent writers.
^^^^ Something of a landmark, and even if it sounds like a broken record at times, the orientations to debates over interpretation are worthwhile.
Sternberg and Fishbane (see Dan's recommends) would get you into the Hebrew Bible, even if not on "Hebrew" themselves.
Oh yes - poetry - my fave, I think:
This one also a handy vade mecum -
For Hebrew - wonder what these podcasts would be like?
Michael Satlow's lecture series on Archive.org would also be worth a listen, I reckon.
And while we're on these things, there's also an OT Intro from Yale's Open Courses.
That's it for the moment, I think!
 
Paul Vargas
Paul Vargas
7:44 AM
@Davïd I wonder how is Caleb. I have not seen him here for a long time.
 
 
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Susan
Susan
12:13 PM
@Davïd @Dan Looks like great stuff, thanks! I’ll see what I can manage to read. I always find myself wishing I had the perspective that comes from having read such things, but for some reason literature/history/sociology (and theology for that matter) is harder for me to digest than straight-up grammar and “lower” textual stuff. Too abstract or something.
 
Susan
Susan
12:23 PM
Public opinion poll, in three parts, regarding Septuagint:
1. How many syllables?
2. On which syllable belongs the accent (or tone or stress or whatever it is you call it)?
3. Hard "Latin" g or soft? (Somebody will write that using IPA notation for me.)
 
Dan
Dan
Sep - TU - a - gint
sɛptuədʒɪnt
So soft g ;)
@Susan ^^^
 
Susan
Susan
12:50 PM
@Dan Thanks, I’m with you. (That’s my instinct anyway. Not sure I’ve ever heard anyone say it.) I may be wrong, but my sense is that the Latin g is preserved in some circles (presumably Europe/UK), though, which may or may not be accompanied by a shift in the accent. (Pretty sure this was mentioned in a book I recently read, but now I can’t find it, so I figured I’d survey the perspectives in the Library.)
 
Davïd
Davïd
1:02 PM
@Susan @Dan - I've heard plenty of "SEPT-ua-gint" ("g" as first G in "Ginsberg"). Also (German or not!): "Haben Sie eine Septuaginta?" :) And, auf Deutsch, always "hard" G.
@PaulVargas More active at Christianity.SE just now, I believe.
 
Susan
Susan
1:16 PM
@Davïd LOL, had forgotten about that quote.
“I’ve heard plenty of....” (though helpful) is not really an appropriate response to an opinion poll. You do, presumably, on occasion, pronounce the word.
 
Dan
Dan
1:47 PM
@Davïd good to know!
 
 
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Davïd
Davïd
5:03 PM
@Susan Oh, I dunno. I think I more emote it than pronounce it.
:P
 
 
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Susan
Susan
10:24 PM
@Davïd If German, Latin, and Greek all only have the hard g, I wonder where the English soft one comes from. Usually if I don’t understand something in English, I assume that German is to blame.
 
 
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ThaddeusB
ThaddeusB
11:55 PM
@Susan According to Wikipedia it originates in Late Latin
 

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