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Ami
12:32 AM
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A: Exodus 6:3 - what is the significance of God's different names in the OT?

Jon EricsonBackground The NET Bible has a useful translator's note on the introduction of the name in Exodus 3:14: The verb form used here is אֶהְיֶה (’ehyeh), the Qal imperfect, first person common singular, of the verb הָיָה (haya, “to be”). It forms an excellent paronomasia with the name. So when Go...

@JonEricson, epic answer.
 
 
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Ray
12:53 PM
Hey guys
so, suddenly i can't upvote or flag comments in meta?
is that a rep thing?
I was pretty sure I've always been able to do that
 
@Ray Site glitch? You should be able to do that...
Full refresh? Sometimes their JS library caching stuff goes wacky.
 
Ray
ah, yeah, that worked
weird
thanks
 
Ray
1:46 PM
@JackDouglas Looks like our buddy is back, with some bizarre answers!
"It is a doctrinal certainty that the death of Christ was the will of the Father, as well as his own choice. Keller is correct in discerning it from the parable. "... But Keller said.. huh..?
 
2:00 PM
Wow. That is bizarre!
I had to read the answer three times to understand what he was saying.
 
2:20 PM
@Ray I've noticed he is looking like a stayer :) I've also noticed he is pretty gracious in the comments - how we deal with this is an interesting early test for the site IMO and may set the tone for others.
 
2:43 PM
Just joining from mobile here. Are we asking what about Bob?
 
Ray
That's right
 
I saw some helpful fixes to previous answers earlier but I still couldn't make out what he meant or believes in a few cases. His comment interaction was good tho.
 
3:10 PM
Have we come to any kind of consensus about the exegesis tag?
Or is it still wait and see?
 
@Soldarnal Well, we probably should blacklist it. Wasn't there a meta question about it?
Ah:
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Q: Tagging exegetical questions

SoldarnalThere are a number of tags out there related to exegesis: 'exegesis', 'meaning', 'understanding', 'interpretation'. It's not clear to me from the names how these tags differ. It seems likely that 1/3 or more of the questions on this site could end up falling into the "exegesis" category. Is a ta...

Nope, that's not it...
Actually.... where did that tag go?!
oops... looking at meta, not main.
 
@Richard I think there were kind of two questions about about on meta: one by me and one by Ray
 
Yeah, this is the other:
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Q: Tag synonyms for exegesis

RayI see we have tags for exegesis, interpretation, and meaning. It seems that one would suffice--I suggest exegesis as it is the least ambiguous.

I thought the question was whether we should blacklist
 
Someone suggested that in Ray's question
Oh, and in mine also
 
I'm going to post a meta question about that now.
Regarding the synonyms, you can vote for them here: hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/tags/exegesis/synonyms
OK, here it is:
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Q: Blacklist exegesis tag?

RichardI'm wandering if we should blacklist the exegesis tag. It seems that a large majority of our questions are exegetic questions. To be complete, each of these questions seeking exegesis would include this exegesis. Keep in mind, though, that there are some possible synonyms out there. You can...

 
3:21 PM
Is it a bad idea to simply retag the "interpretation" questions?
 
@Soldarnal No, it's a good idea. However, we should also add the synonym so others can't come on and create new questions tagged with "interpretation".
Moderators have the ability to bulk-migrate all tags from a synonym tag to their parent tag. So, once the synonym has been made, the pro-tem moderators can merge those two tags.
 
Cool
 
3:39 PM
@Richard can you make it clear if you just want upvote/downvote or if you want a "yes" and a "no" answer and vote on them? The first makes more sense to me... :)
 
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Q: Blacklist exegesis tag?

RichardIt has been suggested in previous posts regarding the exegesis tag that we blacklist the tag. The subject came up again in chat. Reasoning It seems that a large majority of our questions are exegetic questions. To be complete, each of these questions seeking exegesis would include this exeges...

 
Ray
I like Caleb's suggestion, assuming it can be done
What if it was just a matter of tagging the Bible book?
 
all I can think of is word/verse/passage
 
Ray
E.g., if you want an interpretation of John 7:38, you'd tag "John"
 
3:53 PM
@Ray interesting point
can't think of any non-exegesis q's that would be tagged with the book - but I'm worried there might be :)
 
Ray
if you're not exegeting a Bible passage, it's either not exegesis (do you really just want an out-of-context translation?) or not in scope (e.g., cultural exegesis)
 
@JackDouglas "What hermeneutical principles should we use when regarding Revelations?"
 
@Richard yes
 
Ray
@JackDouglas Well background info would be non-exegesis; e.g., questions of authorship, dating, etc
 
I vote we just keep the tag then. Shame you can't vote on your own answer though Ray :)
 
3:56 PM
@Ray This raises another point: There's not just two main lines of questions on this site (hermeneutics and exegesis), but there's also the factual questions (regarding authorship, etc).
 
@Richard I'm struggling to see your logic for accepting Ray's answer so soon...
 
Ray
Right. I think we also said translation theory was in scope
@JackDouglas The down arrow is pretty close to the checkbox ;)
 
@JackDouglas LOL. That was done more for fun than out of logic. ;)
I've unaccepted it. Also, if there were other answers, I would've unaccepted it.
 
haha
 
However, it also seems valid to me. We have exegesis, hermeneutics, and facts. It makes sense to leave it there since it helps distinguish the major groups.
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4:22 PM
Since we're on the topic of tags...
I'm not too familiar with synonyms, but would it make sense to make the individual books synonyms for and ?
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Q: Should there be New Testament and Old Testament Tags?

SoldarnalA number of questions have been tagged old-testament or new-testament. I'm wondering if we should maintain these. Questions have not been consistently tagged as such so far. Alternatively, perhaps we can make tag synonyms for these using the individual book tags like john. I'm not sure if that i...

 
@Soldarnal I don't think we should make them synonyms. There could be very valid questions regarding the book of John, for example, that should have it's own separate section.
 
@Richard So would that redirect all John questions to New Testament?
 
Yes, plus all future questions that attempt to use would end up with . Synonyms prevent any future use of the tag.
 
Gotcha. That would be rather unproductive then :)
 
@Soldarnal yes - you are thinking of meta-tags I think (which we don't have)
 
4:33 PM
Yeah, or some kind of taxonomy of tags
 
I agree. However, we should take a look at the and tags since it seems that they are being abused.
 
Since any question tagged 1-corinthians will also be tagged new-testament
 
@Soldarnal Aah, I can see the idea now.
Yeah, tags are pretty loose. It would be nice to have a couple of tag-nazis around to help retag things appropriately, but I haven't seen anyone very vehement about tags.
 
It's definitely the case in the field that experts are NT or OT scholars - so I can see the purpose of the tags.
But if you have a question that relates an NT passage to an OT passage, you run out of tags pretty quick if you're tagging it john, new-testament, 2-samuel, old-testament, nt-use-of-the-ot
I would want the question to probably include the topic as well: david
 
Yeah. Questions that ask about, for example, a quote of Psalms made in Matthew shouldn't have old-testament and new-testament tags, in my opinion because they're not questions about the Old or New testaments. They're questions about the books Matthew and Psalms.
Compare this to questions regarding canonization of Revelations or consistency of passages between New Testament books.
 
4:43 PM
Hmm, good point. The other tag that's similar so far is
If I were browsing by tag, would I want all questions concerning Matthew, Mark or Luke to come up when I browsed the synoptics tags? Or only ones that particularly mention all three (or two of the three anyway)?
 
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Q: Should there be New Testament and Old Testament Tags?

SoldarnalA number of questions have been tagged old-testament or new-testament. I'm wondering if we should maintain these. Questions have not been consistently tagged as such so far. Alternatively, perhaps we can make tag synonyms for these using the individual book tags like john. I'm not sure if that i...

 
@Soldarnal This is tough. The problem I've seen is that the searching functionality here is really poor. Also, browsing by tag misses a good portion of the questions that really apply. Tagging is very loose and I haven't seen any desire on the part of the SE staff to change this.
 
Ray
Only slightly related--I thought there was a way to require at least one of a certain set of tags... and the other tags could augment
e.g., you would require that every question being tagged either , , or (or something like that last one, to be worked out)
so that you don't have somebody tagging only without tagging
is that right? or am i making that up?
 
@Ray Good question. That would be useful. Also, is there a way to bulk remove a tag? Say if we tagged a bunch of questions but later decided it was unhelpful?
 
Umm... I don't personally know of any required tags. However, there are some small intricacies I am still learning. I'll inquire to find out.
@Ray Nope, there's no way to require one of a set of tags. I checked with the other mods. The code base is somewhat there (since Metas have something like that), but there's nothing like that on any main site.
 
Ray
5:49 PM
Ah, the feature on metas must be what I was thinking of
 
 
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7:27 PM
@JackDouglas No not yet. That doesn't mean an answer isn't to be found, but I haven't yet seen a consistent system of tags that would break up our general class of exegesis questions consistently into some smaller subset except by book and topic.
 
7:38 PM
@Caleb all I can think of is dividing by scope, eg word|verse|passage, but it doesn't really seem satisfactory
 

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